/lit/ - Literature

>>18272561
The Ego and its Own.

>Everything is nothing to me.

>>18272561
Yeah because nothing says enlightened egoism like shutting yourself in one room surrounded by filth, being dependant on the government or your parents and watching all your potential and everything you hoped for slip away one day at a time

t. actual truneet

>>18272696
>being dependant on the government
That's based though.
>having hopes in the first place

>>18272696
Egoism is taking that which is not sacred for yourself, ie everything, because nothing is sacred except what you believe is.
Those welfare bucks? My own.
Those tendies? My own.
Those pirated movies? My own.
This is what I, the Unique, choose, and there is no theoretical belief you can oppose to me that will change what I am or what I want.

>>18272561
The failure of technology.

>>18272696
>being dependant on the government
either the goverment makes a buck out of you or you make a buck out of the goverment. The funds for NEEThood are mostly acquired through the appropriate legal channels. If someone offers to give you free money why wouldnt you take it?
>watching all your potential and everything you hoped for slip away one day at a time
The potential for what? The potential for achieving social markers associated with success or high social status in norman society? If you hope a for a comfy NEET life the only thing slipping away from you day by day is your lifetime.

>>18272561
Ishmael by Daniel Quinn

>>18272696
Yes it does actually.

>>18272716

You're just a slave, but philosophy has been used for a long time for people to cope with their own slavery so that's cool, it's a valid application for it.

Do NEETs actually feel accomplished and fulfilled in their lives or are images like OPs just a massive cope?
Many NEETs I see online are very antisocial and tend to only do basic comfortable pleasurable activities like gaming.
Based on my own experience, giving in to the easy life of coom and vidya just makes you desensitized and depressed, which many NEETs seem to be.

>>18272561
NEETpill+wife is the way to go; the issue is money

>>18275217
>Do NEETs actually feel accomplished and fulfilled in their lives or are images like OPs just a massive cope?
Do wageslaves?

Hint: We do not.

I wish I could take it easy. Back to work soon.

>>18275239
How do you get a wife as a NEET? By all metrics I am an absolute loser and no woman likes that.
>>18275217
It's the lesser of two evils in my opinions. I could never work in my life, ever. Fuck that.

>>18275276
well it is easiest to get one pre-NEETdom, in college, but as a NEET, you can just join clubs that pertain to your interests, ie a literary club. appearances are also important, so with your full day of free time try to do at least 100 pushups so as to not get fat. I, of course, am taking NEETdom for its literal sense; if you just play video games all day and browse 4chan, you will be considered repulsive.

the anime is good too

>>18275260
True, I suppose complete fulfillment needs to come from something outside employment.
That said, I think one is more likely to find fulfillment by having something productive to do. If one enjoys their job, or if they choose to learn a language or instrument in their spare time.
Being a NEET makes it easier for one to get into comfortable numbness instead of trying new horizons, though that does apply to many workers too so the problem is probably in society itself

>>18275276
>I could never work in my life, ever
Do you still have constructive hobbies or passions?

>>18275302
I'm a true NEET, so no college.
>join clubs
Definitely, but the topic of "what do you do" always comes up and 99% of people think you're a loser if you don't have a job and live on welfare.

>>18275343
well, most people don't care that greatly for other people's employment. if you have other positive traits, they won't care

>>18275333
Frankly, not really. I've been looking for stuff I could enjoy doing but there's really nothing else than what I currently do, which is mostly reading, watching movies, listening to music, lifting, shitposting and going for walks.

>>18275276
>I could never work in my life, ever. Fuck that.
Same. I don't enjoy upsetting the wagies on 4chan because simply most don't have the choice to go NEET, but personally I'd unironically kys if I had to spend most of my waking hours locked in some office, earning mediocre income.

The way I see it, the choice mostly depends on whether you want to start a family or not. If you're content on your own, there's absolutely no incentive in participating in the normie rat race. Just convince your parents to support you and leech off the government. Free time is the most valuable commodity you have, incomparable to material consumption.

>>18275353
I hope you're right, then the only issue is to find an interest group I'm actually into because going into something just to find a relationship sounds like a bad idea.

>>18275366
That doesn’t sound terrible, at least your hobbies are more than gaming and cooming.
Maybe add in some more exercises, cardio and biking especially does wonders for me and is something you can improve at.
Learning an instrument or language takes a long time, but is also very rewarding and has real-world benefits you can use

>>18275379
I agree with you. Even putting aside the stereotype (low paid office droning) I would still find it depressing to go to work.
I'd say the main issue is that society as a whole despises us and that we pretty much choose to be ostracized as it's the price of liberty (that, or inhuman amounts of effort to get a very well paid occupation).
>>18275390
Yeah I've thought about starting cardio, I'll do it as soon as I can get a bike.
>Learning an instrument or language
This is interesting but I'm so bad at following through on things, I don't trust myself to be committed enough to keep doing these things in the long term. I tend to drop things very easily, I only stuck with lifting because it's easy as fuck to make it into a habit and it requires no real effort (especially since I do mostly calisthenics and only a few barbell exercises)

>>18272561
Eumeswil by Ernst Junger has a novel approach to this question. Great book too.

>>18275192
>You're a slave!
>You don't serve the workers, like a hard worker like me!
Hahahahaha

The people who call Stirner an egoist completely misunderstand him because he does away with metaphysical analysis - nothing chains him. He's not something to be understood, pinned down

>>18275321
>Being a NEET makes it easier for one to get into comfortable numbness instead of trying new horizons
From experience, I can tell you this is far more likely with full time employment.

>>18275522
Meds

>>18272561
Yeah, no. This is 100% pure copium for losers. I've been NEET, it only works as long as you stay ignorant. You are perturbed by messy rooms, job prospects and society's expectations do matter, you do get concerned with income and you aren't incapable of getting seriously employed. Being NEET happens when you can't overcome your own fear of failure, so you gotta pretend everything is exactly how you want because the alternative is something you're too scared to take on, especially when you have low self-confidence which comes from staying inside, having no accomplishments and no friends. Staying up all night, sleeping until 5 in the evening and then browsing 4chan half that time doesn't make anyone happy. Choosing to stay NEET is choosing to give up on yourself. No one I've ever met has been happy as a NEET, they've been trying not to kill themselves out of shame. Literally just take a risk and don't give up when you make mistakes, you have to learn to be responsible for yourself and accept that "successful people" are not much better than you at everything, they've just been working harder than you for a lot longer.

>>18275684
Brainwashed, this dude is likely in the "self-improvement" (self-cucking) part of the cycle and likely has yet to suffer full time employment.

>>18275489
>I tend to drop things very easily, I only stuck with lifting because it's easy as fuck to make it into a habit and it requires no real effort (especially since I do mostly calisthenics and only a few barbell exercises)
you can learn a language (particularly anything european) with no real effort and it's easy to make it a habit. just find some videos in the target language that are a. interesting to you on some level and b. at least basically understandable without knowledge of the language (in the sense that you can just follow the action visually even if you don't understand what people are saying). dumb reality shows, cooking competitions etc work very well, stupid youtube crap, anything that's repetitive in nature. just relax and watch it every day for at least an hour. your brain is built to figure languages out just from passive exposure. you will find yourself understanding more and more as time goes on, without ever needing to look things up or touch a textbook. it's a great feeling to rewatch a video after a few months and what used to be total gibberish suddenly makes sense. the ability to actually speak lags behind A LOT compared to comprehension, but it does slowly build up and you will find that words and phrases from the foreign language just pop into your head randomly.

i've done this with german for a year and i can now listen to audiobooks without issue and read (slowly). done a few months of italian as well and i'm getting the hang of it.

warning: this method is a neet secret and it only works for neets doing it for fun. if you try to use it to learn a language to put on your resume then it will not work and also your dick will rot and fall off. consider yourself warned.

>>18275684
The amount of projection in this post is worrying.
If you had such a shit lifestyle when you were a NEET, the problem is your own lack of basic self-respect since even I, with my self-esteem in the gutter, still manage to have good hygiene, a healthy diet and sleep schedule, and a generally healthy life putting aside the social aspects.
>job prospects
If you still care about this after becoming a NEET you're retarded.
>income
Try living in Europe with guaranteed neetbux.
A lot of the things you say are right but you're a complete retard if you think wagecucking is better than NEETing except for extremely fringe cases.

>>18275217
It’s a massive cope

t. NEET

>>18275731
Thank you anon, I'm going to try this, it looks like a good method I could actually stick to in the long term (though I'd have trouble with different alphabets but whatever).
>if you try to use it to learn a language to put on your resume
I don't write resumes on principle anyway, when someone asks for it I give them the garbage, practically empty resume I shat out in my last year of high school. Resumes make me feel like I'm a whore trying to sell myself.

>>18272561
>the second point
You can be a NEET without being a disgusting piece of shit

>>18275704
I've been full-time employed off and on for 10 years, Anon. You call me brainwashed, but you consider improving yourself "self-cucking"? You should stop lying to yourself, it's only logical that improving yourself leads to improved quality of life. Don't be scared to try.

>>18275734
I had great hygiene and an active social life, which is probably your issue. If you don't see how anyone else is living, or have any friends to grow with you don't see the point in trying. You don't understand what you're missing out on. It's just ignorance, Anon, and you will face it now or when you're ten more years down the line with a lot of wasted potential and opportunities. No one can hide forever from things they know to be true deep down.

More importantly, you need to stop thinking that any option but NEET is wagecuckery. You'll have to start there sure, everyone does, but you can make a lot of money doing something that fulfills you. You also make a lot of friends and learn skills while working, and most importantly you will earn enough income to have legitimate freedom. Having a car and savings means you can go anywhere at any time, you can buy the tools to learn anything you want, you gain the resources to show the people around you how much you appreciate them. There's so much more to life than your hometown.

>>18275805
>it's only logical that improving yourself leads to improved quality of life
Pure and utter falsehood, it is purely the expenditure of energy in the service of improving your ability to provide value in the wageslave economy.

>>18275813
Why do you define improvement against value to the wageslave economy? That's something you've mentally associated from being here too long. Self-improvement can be anything that makes quality of life better.

>>18275217
>Do NEETs actually feel accomplished
What’s there to feel accomplished about?

>>18275830
>Self-improvement can be anything that makes quality of life better.
Conveniently other than the one thing that actually matters, free time, bodily autonomy and independence?

>>18275805
NEET or not, wage cucking always ends up as a net loss. You can’t spin it with “no no you make friends”, “you are on the road to self improvement”, or any other bullshit.
All in all, if you have the money to buy food and have fun, there’s no point in slaving away. If you can’t socialize and improve on your own, I doubt a job will fix that.

>>18275805
>you don't see the point in trying.
There is no point. I'm not interested in the normalfag life. Too difficult, too tedious for someone like me.
>what you're missing out on
I understand fully. I just don't think it's worth it.
>wasted potential and opportunities
Already done. At this point there's nothing else I can waste, except time, and I think wagecucking is more of a waste of time than just taking it easy.
>You'll have to start there sure
Then fuck it. Not interested.
Not interested in making money either. My parents are upper middle class and I don't aspire to their lifestyle. I have a bit of cash saved up, and guaranteed income from the state, I don't care about anything more.
I don't care about skills for their own sake.

>>18275836
Taking it easy

>>18275886
>NEET or not, wage cucking always ends up as a net loss.
I’ve been working for 10 years. My savings over that 10 years is negligible. In fact, my student loan debt from trying to become a good wage slave, puts me in the red and will for at least a few decades, maybe forever. I couldn’t have NEETed but if I could’ve, I would’ve.

>>18275911
Is that an accomplishment?

>>18275921
Yes. It is true mastery of the self.

>>18275217
I'm not NEET, but id guess it really depends. Like it is one thing to wake up and sit at your computer playing the same innane games or watching the same shonen reskinned ad naseum. It is another to be pursuing something you genuinely enjoy beyond the quick dopamine fix.

>>18275924
"Taking it easy" is the opposite of mastering yourself, unless by that you just mean being unperturbed by problems that arise in life.

>>18275858
I hear you. What do you do in your free time though? Quality over quantity is real, Anon. If you're telling me that you have full bodily autonomy and independence, but employed people do not, can you go to Greenland tomorrow? I can. Employment gives people the resources to go wherever I want, but you're trapped by what's within walking distance if you can even convince yourself to go outside.

>>18275886
What are you basing "NEET or not, wage cucking always ends up as a net loss" on?" Do you have any actual experience wage cucking or do you just listen to other NEETs on here echochamber the same thoughts that also come from zero actual experiences. It's also worth saying that you can't learn to socialize if you don't go out and talk to people, that's literally what socializing IS. Having a job means actually doing that, which is absolutely going to improve your social skills.

>>18275892
This entire post is just defeatist. You've given up on yourself before ever even trying. Things will never get better for you if you don't challenge these thought processes. How could you understand fully what you've never experienced? You have an idea in the back of your head of what you're missing out on, you aren't stupid and you know this is a poor life, but you're too afraid of change. Take the risks, Anon. If it really isn't good then you can always go back, you have nothing to lose.

>>18275933
>tfw NEET but have never played vidya yet
I have all these great games waiting for me whenever I get bored of my current hobbies.

>>18275969
>If you're telling me that you have full bodily autonomy and independence
I don't have that idiot, I have to waste the majority of my time on this earth working.

>>18273186
The potential for relationships, friends, the ability to go to places, being good at something.

Being dependant makes you feel like shit, not because you are brainwashed by normie rules but because it makes you feel helpless. You frame it like you're just taking free money but the truth is if you didn't take that free money you would suffer for it.

When I became a NEET it was because I wanted to retreat away from normal life and just be safe and comfortable. That was what my ego wanted and serving it has not made me happy.

>>18275969
Who the fuck cares about going to Greenland? And yeah I could if I wanted anyway but I don't give a fuck about traveling.
>improve your social skills
Mine aren't bad, I just don't care for other people.
>You've given up on yourself before ever even trying
Not really, I've given up on society. But even then, so what?
>Things will never get better
Why do you assume they're so bad? As I said I'm way more satisfied with my current situation than if I were to become a wagie.
>You have an idea in the back of your head of what you're missing out on
I told you I know full well what I'm missing out on and I calculated the opportunity cost to not be worth the effort.
>Take the risks
No, fuck that. I refuse to work. If the state stops paying for my lifestyle I'll kill myself but I'll never become a slave.

How do people NEET? I’m American so I wouldn’t really know. Here, you can only get assistance if you’ve been fired, and that’s usually not much at all, or if you have a disability, in which case, you will probably have to really fight for it and potentially pay a lawyer to get you disability. Other than that, parents seem to be your only option but even then, they’re pretty unlikely to be fine with just paying for you and increasingly less so the older you get. So how do people even do it? I have a hard time believing that in Europe you can just choose to not work and get payments into perpetuity.

>>18276010
My parents have not said a word about it in five years. I just live here and thats that. I dont get any money at all.

>>18275981
So find a better way, Anon. Change jobs to something that's less draining, or work your ass off and take long vacations. Trades are great in that respect because you make tons of money and often get the winter off. A lot of companies also let you carry over vacation days so that once you build them up, you can choose to work less days a week or a few months less a year.

>>18276010
>I have a hard time believing that in Europe you can just choose to not work and get payments into perpetuity.
And yet that's how it is, in my country at least. You don't get a lot of money but it's more than enough to survive and even have a few hobbies.
You have to pretend to be an absolute retard to get the employment counselor to give up on you though, otherwise they give you meetings you have to attend every once in a while to keep getting your payments and that's annoying. But you just need to show up dressed like a fucking slob once or twice and the guy will go "yeah this one's hopeless let's just put him on neetbux for life and be done with it"

>>18275976
Based las

>>18276009
You'd rather kill yourself than support yourself? Do you believe your mindset is healthy? Do you think that conclusions made through those processes are ironclad? I'm here to tell you, you need help, Anon. You don't need to put your guard up against new ideas, and you shouldn't let yourself be brainwashed by people who have a vested interest in pretending that getting a job is bad. You can do better.

>>18276058
Eh, I was being dramatic, maybe I'd become a wagecuck if the state really stopped giving me money, I don't know. I highly doubt it'll happen though, everything points towards welfare in my country staying how it is, or even increasing, until either total collapse (at which point I would definitely consider suicide) or UBI.
>healthy
I think that word has become a meme when used to describe anything else than physiological processes. Every behavior or thought is labeled healthy or unhealthy now, who the fuck cares.
>you need help
I don't think so. Therapy is a meme (speaking from experience) and I'm satisfied enough with my current life.
>brainwashed
I didn't need 4chan to tell me to become a NEET. I came to that conclusion on my own. And yeah, getting a job is bad. And no, I can't do better. Or don't want to; same thing.

>>18276021
How old are you?

>>18276058
>>18276132
Honestly though, your first posts were condescending, but you seem pretty good-hearted and not a self-righteous faggot like most normalfags who like to give "advice" to NEETs, so thanks for the effort, but you're wasting your time.

>>18276027
>You don't get a lot of money but it's more than enough to survive and even have a few hobbies.
Is it like minimum wage? More? Less?

I’m 28 and I’ve been working for years. I simply feel too old to start NEETing at this point and I’m also American so.

Good thread.
Are any of my fellow wageslaves dreading the return to the office?
Working from home its easier to work your own hours, no need to shave, wear dress clothes, etc.
I genuinely can't understand all the people on my team who pine to go back to the office.
>But think of all the interaction
Yeah for five minutes a day before you go back to your computer.

All in all I have a perfect gig at the moment and a lot of savings. If I thought I could land another gig at will I would probably quit and NEET for a year but last time I did that I couldn't climb out easily. Too risky. Almost needed to live in the ghetto.

>>18276151
It's technically less, but since you get other financial advantages (much lower rent, completely free healthcare with no need to even pay the doctor after a visit, lower electricity costs, no taxes of course including exemptions on some forms of insurance and whatnot), in the end you end up with about the same amount of purchasing power as someone who earns slightly above min wage if you play your cards right.

>>18276165
Do you have to live in the enriched parts of town?

>>18276146
Tbf I came here to argue and shitpost, so yeah, I agree I was being condescending. I really did escape NEETdom after watching Welcome to the NHK though, and it does make me sad to see people where I used to be when I know they just need the momentum to get going and be a lot happier.

>>18275192
this seems to me like cope

>>18276189
Not at all. You can find a cheap countryside house if you're lucky and know where to look. There's also actual public housing in richer parts of town and if you know someone on the inside you can get a nice apartment in a great neighborhood with ghetto-tier rent. Right now I'm actually waiting to get approved for public housing that could get me a studio not far from the beach in a quiet part of town, it's pretty rare though and I'd be lying if I said most public housing programs weren't in shitty areas.

>>18276003
A neet can't have friends or go to places? Cannot "be good" at something if it isn't work? Sure, for romantic relationship would be harder I think

>>18272561
>Books about
If you want to shitpost about random bs just fuck off to /b/
Might even be a good thread there for a change

>>18276190
I think I watched NHK too early in my life so it had literally no impact on me at all. Anime/media with anti-escapism messages don't leave much of an impact on me in general though.
>they just need the momentum
Maybe some do. Some NEETs are very unhappy. I wouldn't trade it for the normalfag life.

>>18276219
All I need is a NEET or NEET-accepting gf to cuddle and I'll be completely fulfilled

>>18276158
Yeah, I’m not doing it. I’m just going to refuse and if they fire me, then whatever.

>>18276212
Man, life in America feels like torture when you put it like this. Things are barely livable when you work all the time...

>>18272561
This image haunts me
I unironically don't want to work because of it.
I never had a job anyway but I don't wanna start

>>18276326
Keep in mind that neetbux affords you a quiet life. I'm lucky because I have a few savings, but most people on welfare don't. You can't buy a car, you can't buy expensive shit, you need to calculate everything. You most likely can't afford a girlfriend, holidays, miscellaneous expenses, etc. The state gives you just enough to survive if you're dumb, or to live a comfortable but modest life if you're smart. You have no disposabe income or opportunities to evolve since it's not a salary, it always stays the same.
Personally I'm satisfied with it but it's not for everyone. But yeah I agree that being a wagie is pretty terrible and I can't imagine how bad it must be in the US.

>>18276350
I’m well into my twenties and I’ve never not worked and yet I have no savings and can’t afford a car either so...

>>18276315
nice.
Commuting is the biggest time waste there is.

>>18276389
Huh. Well, I think even as an American you can get some form of neetbux, mostly as disability, if you can manage to fool a psychiatrist into believing you're on the autistic spectrum. There must be other ways too.
If you want to stop working and want to live modestly but be free, maybe you should consider it. You'd pretty much be in the same situation as you are now except you wouldn't have to dedicate a third of every day to someone else.

NEET is an even bigger larp than tradcath posting.

All NEETposters are disgusting retards who want to kill themselves

>>18276402
>t. sour grapes

>>18272561
She cute

>>18276399
No, you really can’t. Even if you really are disabled (I’m not) you will have to jump through hoops to get it. You can’t get unemployment if you quit or choose not to work. Your only choice is to rely on family, which mine just won’t do and I wouldn’t want them to. I don’t have enough savings to live off.

>>18276427
Fuck, that's rough.
>if you quit or choose not to work
Could you get a job and be deliberately incompetent so you get fired and get unemployment checks? I knew a guy who did that several times.
It's not very viable in the long term, though.

>>18276427
I wish we weren't so autistic about individual autonomy in this country. I would be happy to rent a room from a family member and help around the house. I could probably do it all with a part time job. Instead we all have to pretend to be go-getters.

>>18276444
>pretend to be go-getters
This shit is ridiculous, even outside of the US

>>18276441
>Could you get a job and be deliberately incompetent so you get fired and get unemployment checks?
I’ve actually been trying to get fired from my current job but it’s really difficult. I’d have to say nigger at work or something and I can’t do that in case I need a job in the future. Even if I did get fired, unemployment is only temporary and really not much to live on.

>>18276456
>it’s really difficult
I thought firing people was much easier in the US. Well, good luck anyway.

>>18276158
>But think of all the interaction
>Yeah for five minutes a day before you go back to your computer.
It's also the worst part.

>>18275805
>I have to work for 40 hours a week towards someone else's dreams otherwise the natural slaves won't accept me as one of them
It's okay wagie, someone has to pay for my welfare.

Is the monkpill also a kind of NEETpill?
>isolated from society
>no wage slavery
>sleep in a smelly dingy cell
>pray and contemplate the nature of God all day
>mooching for sustenance off the Church and handouts from donations
The only downside I see is doing manual labor.

>>18277660
Manual labor and shunning many of the pleasures that NEETs indulge in

>>18272561

>>18277660
I went to work from home and as someone who does maybe 4 hours of work per week and rarely leaves his apartment, I still don’t feel it’s at all close to the NEET pill. You literally need to be Not in Employment Education or Training not only to be literally a NEET but to be NEET pilled in any sense.

>>18277660
It’s the anti-NEET pill, which in a strange way makes it more similar to the NEET pill than waging.

>>18277660
monks were historically mostly productive I think

>>18277720
based

>mfw the last man and the neet are one and the same

>>18275969
>What are you basing "NEET or not, wage cucking always ends up as a net loss" on?" Do you have any actual experience wage cucking or do you just listen to other NEETs on here echochamber the same thoughts that also come from zero actual experiences. It's also worth saying that you can't learn to socialize if you don't go out and talk to people, that's literally what socializing IS. Having a job means actually doing that, which is absolutely going to improve your social skills.
You’re assuming I’m a neet which I’m not. I would try pretty much anything before wagecucking 9-to-5 for a faceless corporation, though.
Wagecucking always comes at a net loss because whatever money you’re making is nowhere near worth the time you lose. Unless you have no other way of putting food on the table or have someone depending on you, wagecucking is simply not worth it.
There are countless ways you can socialize, and doing so at work is the bottom of the barrel version of it.

>>18276441
It’s not viable at all you only get unemployment for like 6 months and it’s a function of what you earned the previous year (not counting unemployment) and in most states there’s a 1 quarter lag.
So in normal non-virus circumstances filing right now would use your wages from January to December 2020.
So there’s really no way to do it without working a more than a full year

>>18277897
Just so we’re clear, the NEET lifestyle is okay if you can take money away from the state, are crypto rich, or somehow made it for any number of reasons; leeching off of your parents is not.

>>18276158
Some people yearn to have structure, many times they can't make it themselves, thus, work give them structure, almost imposes it on them. or so is my take

Where do NEETs get money from? Everytime this kind of thread gets posted, everyone avoids the important question. "HOW DO YOU SURVIVE AS A NEET?"

>>18278374
a lot of them get some kind of disability payment for serious autism or schizophrenia, that kind of thing.
it's not enviable.

>>18278384
Is that enough? I mean, sure you have enough money to survive your day-to-day life. But about an Emergency? Like an accident, or cancer, or loss of property due to natural disasters. Also, where do NEETs get power or influence from? If you get arrested or have a court case to deal with? Also would need it for medical situations.

>>18278421
they dont pay rent.
their parents pay for that shit and eventually, they get an inheritance.

>>18278421
They wait for their parents to die so they can squander their inheritance.

>>18277819
>he thinks wagies aren't last men

>>18278374
Detailed answers were literally posted earlier in this thread. The people who replied to you are wrong at least when it comes to European neetdom.

>>18278421
Once you drop beyond a certain rung on the social ladder you can just collect welfare/disability and steal whatever else you need.
>what if you get arrested
Just move and get a haircut. What's holding you back? Your job? Friends? Don't make me laugh.

>>18278421
>accident, or cancer
Free healthcare
>loss of property
Just get the state to pay for another apartment
>power or influence
What?
>arrested
>court case
Public defender

>>18275684
That's got nothing to do with being NEET. It is in fact true that most work is entirely pointless and all the conveniences which it all affords are pointless too. The most important aspect of being a NEET is that you are defiant and you do exactly what you want despite it being objectively parasitic - I have heard women refer to babies as 'technically parasitic', so it must mean that they actually envy the overflowing love of being alive exhibited by babies and NEET's alike, which are both under the instinctual obligation of women.

>>18278923
>Free healthcare
>Just get the state to pay for another apartment
Where are you from?
>Public defender
Enjoy prison.

>>18279238
>Where are you from?
Not America :^)
>prison
That's just advanced neetdom in Europe

>NEET for ten years now
>didn't just stay in my room actually used all my free time to accquire the life of my day dreams
>found myself with a group of friends, my own apartment and all the time to spend them just like teenage memories I never got to make
>after years of staying in room don't realise I'm incapable of holding people close in my life
>mental health tanks go from all this in my early 20s to back at my mother's at 28 back in that same room I tried so hard to get out from
>feel the most at peace I ever have

I almost can't relate to the NEETs locked in their rooms now. I got out and I got close to what you might call a good life and watched it all go. No regrets whatsoever I sometimes think about all the time all those memories made in such a short time that no job could ever provide.

>>18279249
You lie. No way Europeans have a life that good. You may have socialised healthcare and a good prison system but it can't be as good as Europeans make it sound. Otherwise everyone just would move to Europe.

>>18279277
As I see it, America is a land of extremes, where if you're a loser nobody will help you, but if you're a winner nobody will hinder you. Europe is more equalizing and drags down the winners so the losers can live comfortably.
Of course I'm only talking about northern countries, Germany, France and Benelux; southern Europe isn't like that.

>>18279284
>so the losers can live comfortably
I'd take it over some stupid coin toss.

>>18272696
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JsgrXyBZO0

>>18279806
Waging sucks, but neet are the most desperate creatures there are.
Just because our society is unfair doesn't mean you should waste your life making a statement about it. Neets are slave to the injustice of the world, even moreso than wageslaves

>>18279829
Extreme cope

>>18275684
Very based.

>>18279829
Just because a thirty second statement takes up all of your free time doesn't mean it's the same for neetchads.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=Jq-e8DWtzvE

>>18277660
Like you said your sustenance is pretty much guaranteed if a bit rudimentary, so if you suffer from anxiety and stuff it can be much healthier I would think than living the rat race. Some people require a lot of structure around them.

>>18279829
>Just because our society is unfair doesn't mean you should waste your life making a statement about it.
You misunderstand NEETdom. It's nothing to do with unfairness, I'm fine with some people being richer than me. The problem is being forced to occupy all of my time for essentially nothing. There is no statement being made, just me living my life.

>>18272561
A Shepherd's Life by W.H. Hudson

>>18275217
>mfw easy life of coom and vidya

Professional NEET here, I will elucidate you.
People will often talk of the depressed-suicidal disgusting NEET and others of the 'comfy' NEET, they both exist and there is a single thing separating them.

Friends.

I was a typical depressed-suicidial NEET, I got friends and now I am unironically a happy comfy NEET and have been for years, its not complicated. Very basic human psychology.

>>18280088
I don’t buy that. It seems to me the distinction is NEET by choice and NEET by default. One group becomes a NEET either because they want to or because it just happens and they find ways to be comfortable. The other group becomes a NEET because they crash and burn in employment, education, or training and grow fearful of that world so their NEETdom is inevitably coupled with feelings of self loathing.

>>18279834
>>18279887
>>18280036
I know you guys are sad as fuck, you have no perspective, nothing to hope for, nothing to strive for, you live empty lives based on leeching, numbing comfort and passivity.
Neets always try to portray themselves as comfy and relaxed, when in reality most of you are absolutely depressed, lazy and pathetic.
Your whole life is a larp, just like those feminists who constructed an entire narrative where they are courageously fighting oppression when in reality they are just a bunch of spoiled little white girls.
You think you found a way to live outside of society because you don't feel like society is giving you the place you deserve, well fucking take it, go ahead, don't let yourself get demoralized to the point where you strive for absolutely nothing.
You can make fun of wagies all you want, but at least they're fucking trying, and I know you'll try to call me a wagie, I work but I have a very happy life, a job I love and a good salary, I'm building my future and family.

>needing a job to feel worth

lol

>>18280146
>wagie coping and seething this hard
kek didn't read

>>18280088
I don't have a single friend and I'm fine. I do have family though (parents, uncles, cousins etc) so I'm not completely alone, but hanging out with people is such a hassle.

Zhuangzi

>>18280146
I never made fun of wagies, I just told you what the point of NEETdom was. It has nothing to do with rebellion or making fun of people.

>>18276027
which country, anon?

>>18280146
I'd rather not.

>>18272561
Gravity's Rainbow

>>18275684
Based, losers will seethe over this.

>>18277660
Read the Sayings of the Desert Fathers. The ascetic life style is the true NEET killer.

>>18275379
>Just convince your parents to support you and leech off the government
Unfortunately not everyone has parents who are either able or willing to support them, nor a government that you can leech off, some people must work if they want to live. I am one of those and it is truly miserable.

>>18281242
Cope wageoid

>>18272716
This is what life boils down to.

True neet here. going to spray my driveway down like a boomer, probably that's all I'll do today and it feels great. Maybe I'll read 4 pages total.

a lot of you talk way too much

>>18275217
if you're wealthy for whatever legit reason it's fine

if you're leeching your parents is not. neets often have unsolved traumas that prevent them from getting a job, which is already hard for most people. They're not desensitized and depressed because they're neets, they're neets because of depression, massive anxiety, and other issued for which they should seek treatment.

>>18282364
>if you're leeching your parents is not
Why though? It doesn’t even seem rational to me that you should have to work, especially if you experience it as some sort of mental torture or something, simply because your parents work. Why stop there? Why not also advocate that you actually have a responsibility to support them entirely because they supported you?

oblomov does that

Does anyone here live a semi-NEET life? In my mind it's a good balance

>>18275684
cringe.
Been a NEET since January, one of the best times of my life, I finally have more time for reading, writing and making art, which is all I care about. hang out with my friends on a daily basis, leave the house everyday to go for a walk and exercise daily.

>>18275684
Based, neets on suicide watch

>>18280146
The great thing about being a NEET is I can strive for the place I deserve and take it just as much as I want, and I've got an extra 40 hours a week that wagecucks don't for that as well as other hobbies and taking it easy.

For example these last couple days I've been getting into programming and trying to configure a cozy textboard that will revolutionize the literati circles of the internet. I don't even know anything about coding, I'm just copy-pasting source code from github and seeing what sticks. It was so much fun I didn't even sleep last night. good thing I can catch up on that whenever I want.

Meanwhile, if I was a wagecuck I'd have to, idk, go to school for four years and learn the basics (which are easy to copy+paste anyways), then get a job at some company and spend 40 hours a week doing shit I hate, then come home, and maybe I'll have the energy to spend an hour or two in the same way I've spent the last 30 or so hours.

People say I should get a job but I can support myself just fine on gibsmedat from the government and I get to chase my dreams.

>>18283618
>Meanwhile, if I was a wagecuck I'd have to, idk, go to school for four years and learn the basics (which are easy to copy+paste anyways)
So this is the power of /lit/ intellectuals

>>18282517
>Why not also advocate that you actually have a responsibility to support them entirely because they supported you?
You do have a responsibility to care for them in their old age. That's a very normal societal concept, many people live with their parents/grandparents or pay to have them put in a retirement home

>>18280146
you're part of a very small percentage of people that are happy with their jobs. I graduated in something I figured out in the end that I despise and have no intention of pursuing a career in that field (biotech). I wouldn't mind finding a job, but not a stressful one. yet, I'd rather not, since I love what I do purely and deeply. if someone paid me to make visual art or write, then yeah, I would do it.

>>18272561
A comfy, relaxed, freetime filled life is what most humans seek at the end of the day. The only difference between Wagies and voluntary NEETs in this regard, is that NEETs have chosen the path of least resistance.

>>18283419
>semi-NEET life
What's that?

>>18282517
Get a job you fucking bum

>>18283691
But you’re not justifying either at all. You’re just saying it’s “normal”. That doesn’t justify why you should or shouldn’t do it unless you mean that doing something because it’s the norm is somehow justification in itself, which seems to me obviously not true.

>>18272696
stop judging yourself

>>18281283
sorry bro you can work hard and invest so your child can be a neet

>>18284518
Probably working part-time.

>>18275217
No, When I’m a NEET I wished I had a job, when I have a job I wished I was a NEET. Usually just wish I was dead now regardless of what I’m doing. Money is nice though and if it sucks either way I might as well accumulate money to be a NEET later on and have more fun than if I was broke. The thing is, when they are working, most people live for their time off when they can temporarily live the life of a NEET, right?

Wagecuck w/happy marriage, kids>NEET w/ money>wagecuck w/out family>poor NEET>wagecuck w/ shitty marriage

>>18279277
>Otherwise everyone just would move to Europe.
lmao

ive been comfy neet since i was 23. i bombed out of society after severe alcoholism put me in the hospital. since i had no real prospects in the following years, i relied on handouts, small savings etc. in that time i was able to take several roadtrips, pursue hobbies, nap during the day when i pleased, exercise routinely/take lots of walks etc. the normal neet stuff. i was married though, and had a small social network which probably kept me from being overly slovenly/outright inactive. now i can get some entry level fulltime work that comes with little to no corporate bullshit or dealing with customers, hop off the soon to end pandemic bucks etc. it's been five years. im conflicted about it and this thread brought it to the surface. that's then end of my blogpost. i had to put it down somewhere. i feel like i had an unprecedentedly long run at it for an american. it's a complex feel.

>>18285358
>i was married though
Literally how?

>>18277720
What are the rules? I'm not reading a whole book for this

NEETs who sit around taking it easy are disgusting. NEEThood is your golden ticket to your own private monastic/aristocratic life. If you're not using the leisure you've been granted to be truly productive in ways shut off to wagies, you're cheating both yourself and God.

>>18283575
>Been a NEET since January
4 or 5 months is nothing compared to years of NEETing retard

>>18272561
Please kill yourself

>>18276158
yeah from my experience what really makes wagecucking unbearable is commuting, disinterested social interactions (i enjoy meeting with friends, not just with colleagues), having to stay at your job in an uncomfy place for hours and hours

working for home i can be comfy in a blanket with music, work enough to get stuff done but not too much that my it starts to bore me (20-25 hours)

it's pretty neat desu