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I'm a non-American history buff and American history is a bit of a blind spot for me. Thanks guys.

>> No.18250879

>>18250870
Zinn should supply an adequate bibliography for social history. One of the editions with a bibliography obviously.

>> No.18250898

>>18250870
Tocqueville

>> No.18250928

O P E N S Y L L A B U S

D O T

O R G

>> No.18251755

>>18250870
Albion's Seed is good for social history. Jon Meacham's biography of Jefferson was pretty packed with information, even if he is your typical mainstream "public intellectual". Zinn's overrated so avoid him.

>> No.18251786

>>18250870
Plain, Honest Men: The Making of the American Constitution - Richard Beeman
Novus Ordo Seclorum: The Intellectual Origins of the Constitution - Forrest McDonald
The Creation of the American Republic, 1776-1787 - Gordon S. Wood
Renegade History of the United States - Thaddeus Russell
The Politically Incorrect Guide to the Great Depression and the New Deal - Robert Murphy
The Myth of the Robber Barons: A New Look at the Rise of Big Business in America - Burton W. Folsom, Jr.
When in the Course of Human Events: Arguing the Case for Southern Secession - Charles Adams
Southern Reconstruction - Philip Leigh
Lincoln Unmasked: What You're Not Supposed to Know about Dishonest Abe - Thomas DiLorenzo
It Wasn't about Slavery: Exposing the Great Lie of the Civil War - Samuel W Mitcham
Final Judgement: The Missing Link in the JFK Assassination Conspiracy - Michael Collins Piper
Blacklisted By History: The Untold Story of Senator Joe McCarthy and His Fight Against America's Enemies - M. Stanton Evans
Compromised: Clinton, Bush and the CIA - Terry Reed, John Cummings
Dark Alliance: The CIA, the Contras, and the Crack Cocaine Explosion - Gary Webb
The CIA as Organized Crime: How Illegal Operations Corrupt America and the World - Douglas Valentine
Prelude to Terror: the Rogue CIA, The Legacy of America's Private Intelligence Network the Compromising of American Intelligence - Joseph J. Trento
The Untold History of the United States - Oliver Stone, Peter Kuznic
The Host and The Parasite: How Israel's Fifth Column Consumed America - Greg Felton
Enough Already: Time to End the War on Terrorism - Scott Horton

>> No.18251935

>>18250870
The Americans trilogy by Boorstin. Avoid Zinn, he was a hack and a liar.

>> No.18251949

>>18250879
Zinn is extremely contentious among the academic community, even among liberals and moderates.

I would not recommend him as an introduction to American history, he's someone you read much later on and with a grain of salt.

>> No.18252002

>>18251949
Scholarly history is divided between praxis histmats, ideological histmats and liberals mate. It’s methodology not politics. Also I recommended the bibliography as a hook for another field scholar.

>> No.18252057

>>18252002
Really doesn't change the fact that Zinn was pretty openly a liar and wrote an objectively bad book on U.S history.

>> No.18252146

>>18252057
>objective
You’ll want to do more philosophy of meaning and language before you pull historiographical claims of this order which have fundamental problems such as claiming that stories have objective natures.

All historians are liars by trade, pick a more incisive critique. I go for “first year textbook and usefully wrong to allow combative essays.”

>> No.18252905

>>18251786
A good list

>> No.18253338

>>18250870
Kevin Phillips, David McCullough, Ron Chernow have good books about the revolutionary war period

>> No.18253406 [DELETED] 

>>18250879
Considering how much contempt Jews have for the only nation to harbor them and permit them to thrive in modern history, I wouldn't trust one to tell our history unbiasedly.

The best history of early America I've read is Albion's Seed: Four British Folkways. Culture is downstream from genetics.

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18253479

>>18250870
My time to shine.

>> No.18254296

>>18250870
Surprised no one mentioned Hofstadter yet. Anti-Intellectualism in American Life, Age of Reform, and the American Political Tradition are all great if flawed. Louis Hartz's Liberal Tradition in America and the last 100 pages of Pocock's Machiavellian Moment for antithetical views on the meaning of the founding

>> No.18254787

Masters- Lincoln the Man
Fiske- The American Revolution
Palfrey- History of New England
Bowers- Party Battles of the Jackson Era
Beard- The Rise of American Civilization

>> No.18255140

>>18250870
Conquest of a Continent by Madison Grant
Your welcome.

>> No.18255162

>>18252002
>. It’s methodology not politics
It's politics lol. The methodological constraints follow directly from political considerations.

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>The American Revolution: A History by Gordon S. Wood
Really readable, concise history of the politics of the American Revolution. It is less than 200 pages, which, like I said, really focuses on the political causes of the revolution. He’s a really great historian who gives as fair a view as one could give of political issues.

>The Civil War: A Narrative by Shelby Foote
Shelby Foote’s immense magnum opus reads more like a novel than a history book, with the personalities of the major historical figures really shining through. This one shines because it gives the Civil War the proper historical treatment. The truth is that the war was way, way more complicated than just “South bad racist men, North good and not racist.” He has been accused of being a Confederacy sympathizer, but that is because he actually takes the time to get into why the South did what they did, because slavery was only a catalyst for something that was probably going to happen either way.

Those are my two recommendations. You’ll be better off looking at books that cover specific time periods and people rather than a full history of the country. There just aren’t many if any good “History of America” books. The most famous one, A People’s History of the United States, is screed written by the ideologue Howard Zinn. Him being a leftist is no excuse for being a terrible historian. Gordon S Wood is an avowed socialist and is one of America’s greatest historians.

>> No.18256434

>>18252146
Eat a bag of baby dicks, PoMo scum