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1824826 No.1824826 [Reply] [Original]

How is it possible that he is still the greatest author who has ever existed?

>> No.1824827

>>1824826
Who decides this?

>> No.1824829

>>1824827
OH, you know.

>> No.1824845

Anything is possibru

>> No.1824865

>>1824826
because subjectivity exists.

>> No.1824867

Francis Bacon wrote most of Shakespeares works

>> No.1824869

>>1824867
lol

>> No.1824873

He had the titile for a long time...so it's tradition...

who do you think is the best then op?

>> No.1824874

>>1824873
Dan Brown.

>> No.1824875

Believe the hype, Shakespeare really was that good.

>> No.1824877

>>1824873
Rao Kin

>> No.1824883

>>1824877

*Tao Lin

>> No.1824889

>>1824874
Ban Drown

>> No.1824891

Tan Frown

>> No.1824895

>>1824889
I love Ban Drown's the Vacancy Dude.

>> No.1824898

Do you live in a world where Jorge Luis Borges never existed?

>> No.1824974

He's still the greatest but it's not like some people haven't come very close. Ex.

Cervantes
Dante
Tolstoy
Proust

>> No.1824990

>>1824974

Tolstoy on Shakespeare: "Several times I read the dramas and the comedies and historical plays, and I invariably underwent the same feelings: repulsion, weariness, and bewilderment. At the present time, before writing this preface, being desirous once more to test myself, I have, as an old man of seventy-five, again read the whole of Shakespeare, including the historical plays, the "Henrys," "Troilus and Cressida," the "Tempest," "Cymbeline," and I have felt, with even greater force, the same feelings,—this time, however, not of bewilderment, but of firm, indubitable conviction that the unquestionable glory of a great genius which Shakespeare enjoys, and which compels writers of our time to imitate him and readers and spectators to discover in him non-existent merits,—thereby distorting their aesthetic and ethical understanding,—is a great evil, as is every untruth."

>> No.1824993

>>1824990
Gotta love Leo.

>> No.1824999

>>1824898
Nah, just the one where he wrote a review of his magnum opus instead of actually writing it.

inb4 thatsthejoke.jpg

>> No.1825001

>>1824990
Thats a pretty well known eccentricity of Tolstoy's but its rather the same thing as Nabokov's feeling of disgust at the violence etc. of Don Quixote. Just because a single great author doesn't fall in line with common critical and popular opinion doesn't mean he's right. That is hipster reasoning.

>> No.1825004

Because he's a gestalt OP. Shakespeare didn't write all those plays and the versions we laud are reconstructed after the fact.

e.g. 400 years of spit and polish on Connie G's versions of Dostoyevsky will do wonders for him.

>> No.1825008

>>1824990

Orwell on Tolstoy on Shakespeare:

Tolstoy criticizes Shakespeare not as a poet, but as a thinker and a teacher, and along those lines he has no difficulty in demolishing him. And yet all that he says is irrelevant; Shakespeare is completely unaffected. Not only his reputation but the pleasure we take in him remain just the same as before. Evidently a poet is more than a thinker and a teacher, though he has to be that as well. Every piece of writing has its propaganda aspect, and yet in any book or play or poem or what not that is to endure there has to be a residuum of something that simply is not affected by its moral or meaning — a residuum of something we can only call art. Within certain limits, bad thought and bad morals can be good literature. If so great a man as Tolstoy could not demonstrate the contrary, I doubt whether anyone else can either.

>> No.1825009

>>1825001
Nabokov in particular was full of idiotic opinions

>> No.1825035

Dude looks like a fag

>> No.1825137

>>1825009
Literature of ideas. huehuehuehuehuehue

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