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18234793 No.18234793[DELETED]  [Reply] [Original]

No amount of reading will ever make up for the fact that you are going to die alone, without ever having experienced love.

>> No.18234799

Is there data from the next two years?

>> No.18234800

>>18234793
And that's a good thing!

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>> No.18234820

>since they turned 18
Aha but i fucked when I was 16. OP btfo

>> No.18234823

>>18234793
Kek, why do you think that? Basically any interest outside of sperg shit like vidya or legos makes you more attractive to women

>> No.18234824

>>18234799
it's likely gotten much much worse. this pandemic especially is going to hit average males hard. social distancing and quarantining means that 1) men will be unable to train at a gym (gymmaxxing is generally considered a meme in the incel community and rightly so but it could help a 6 to ascend to 7) and 2) Tinder is literally the one and only way to meet someone of the opposite sex. I won't be surprised if 2020 will be a massive outlier with 80% of men below 30 being sexless but the general trend is slowly creeping up

>> No.18234845

>>18234793
Temporary problem
With climate change and ecological collapse, a severe drop in living standards is inevitable. Such drops mean that the factors depressing sex rates disappear.

>> No.18234849

>>18234823
Are you sure? Almost all of the female zoomers i know are into videogames. Basically if you don't play Fortnite or Minecraft you don't exist to them

>> No.18234854

>>18234823
Women are attracted to chiseled jaws and tall stature. They don’t give a shit about your knowledge of the First Triumvirate.

>> No.18234855

>>18234824
Honestly I want more and more men to be virgins. Accelerate and let feminism implode on itself already

>> No.18234866
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>>18234824
wsj had a good article yesterday about the birth rate collapsing the us and china. they were like it was a short term boost to the economy when women entered the workforce because it lowered the cost of labor temporarily, but now that there are less workers a generation out, wages might go back up as no one can find workers and the data show that wages were rising under trump but now biden is inflating away those gains, china also seeing upward pressure on wages forcing companies to move their factories in to more remote areas or even leave for vietnam or bangladesh

>> No.18234886

>>18234866
Isn't a lot of manufacturing moving to Africa?

>> No.18234888

>>18234824
>Tinder is literally the one and only way to meet someone of the opposite sex.
C’mon. That’s just not true.

>> No.18234889

>>18234855
I'm afraid your optimism is unfounded. the elites will find a way to subdue social unrest caused by growing sexlessness with funko pops, state-financed sex robots and gender reassignment surgeries and video games

>> No.18234892

I have and do, Still would rather read mostbthe time

>> No.18234893

>>18234793
>you are going to die alone
so will everyone, and I don't mind
>without ever having experienced love
false

>> No.18234896

>>18234886
when was the last time you bought something that was made in africa? egypt maybe, subsaharan not so much

>> No.18234901

>>18234888
every other way was literally illegal for the last 12 months

>> No.18234903
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>>18234866
>wsj had a good article yesterday about the birth rate collapsing the us and china

They'll be in a for a rude awakening when global birth rates continue to decline and you can't just continuously move people and industry.

>> No.18234906

Take the religion pill, only god loves you.

>> No.18234916

>>18234903
Niger is like a glowing KFC drumstick on that map

>> No.18234917

>>18234903
>you can't just continuously move people and industry
Why? We’ve been doing it for years. You wait and see the massive wave from Africa that’s coming.

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>>18234888
triples wasted on cope. according to a Stanford Uni study online dating was the way about 40% of couples met. that study was conducted in 2017 and things have likely gotten worse since then. the pandemic likely accelerated this because of distancing and self-isolation. popularization of dating apps and online dating is a very perilous development for average male who don't stand a chance in sexual competition with top 20% chads.

>> No.18234926
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>>18234896
I thought I heard that at least Ethiopia was building a lot of factories. Idk maybe I'm wrong. Still though, I would think that a lot of industry will move there in the next few decades just cause of their rapid population growth.

>> No.18234927

>>18234903
>They'll be in a for a rude awakening when global birth rates continue to declin
I think what will happen is that eventually the subpopulations within the larger population which have higher birthrates will become the majority, and then the birthrate will rise again. But this will take a long time and the population will be much smaller when this occurs.

>> No.18234930

>>18234903
Why do these maps never show anything for Greenland? People do live there.

>> No.18234933
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This only further extends the superiority, and inevitability, of the coming amazon female small male master race.

Imagine there are two competing societies of humans, one of which is a society where only a few men monopolize a lot of women. The males are very large and energy inefficient and inferior in warfare, and there is a class of males that are constantly angry because they don't get women and who have active interest to work against and destroy their own society because of this, there is constant intra-societal competition and violence towards each other for mating, the women can only have one child at a time and many of them need to use C-sections to do so.

Then there is the competing society, a society of amazon women and small males who are polygynandrous or monogamous, produce litters of offspring at a time and who's males require far fewer resources to survive, are superior in technocratic environments/warfare, and can run a military industrial complex for fewer resources, and who have basically no intrasocietal competition because their sexual strategy doesn't tend towards it. The women suffer no domestic violence and hold no resentment towards the men, and the society expands exponentially faster.

The former society doesn't stand a chance. The amazon female small male master race is vastly superior, it's not even close.
Cope and seethe about it.

>> No.18234935

>>18234926
any time ethiopia looks like they're getting it together some rogue general tries a civil war, place is not stable

>> No.18234936

>>18234930
Like 5 people

>> No.18234937

>>18234923
>online dating was the way about 40% of couples met
That means offline dating was the way about 60% of couples met...

>> No.18234938

>>18234923
Dating apps are awful even without hypergamy. Meeting people on them seems so impersonal and uncanny

>> No.18234943

>>18234933
Can jannies ban this guy already?

>> No.18234945 [DELETED] 

>>18234927
yeah eventually america will basically have three regions: hasidic north east, amish south and central, and mormon west. nation of islam might have some of the midwest around detriot and chicago too. libs will be written out of the history books and forgotten.

>> No.18234946

>>18234943
Cope

>> No.18234956
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18234956

Then why don't you do something about it?

>> No.18234957

>>18234937
you can safely add the 26-27% who met in a bar to the ones that met online. it's likely due to misunderstanding of survey question. they probably met on Tinder or another satanic app and met IN PERSON in a bar or restaurant. advances towards an anonymous woman in a bar is 100% guaranteed way to get arrested in 2021.
>>18234938
true. women love that though

>> No.18234972

>>18234957
>you can safely add the 26-27% who met in a bar to the ones that met online.
I don’t think you can assume that. I agree that there’s actually some other source but it could just as easily be friends or coworkers or something.

>> No.18234977

>>18234972
you'd have to be insane to hook up with someone from work post #metoo, i mean self-centered horny dudes will still do it, some upper management guy got shitcanned from my work last year for fucking a bunch of people sometimes literally in his office, he even had a wife and kids lmao, but for anyone who doesn't want to go out in a blaze of semen, fucking coworkers not a good idea

>> No.18234985

>>18234972
we'll have to agree to disagree. regardless you can't deny that that online dating apps is probably the major venue for couples to meet in the pandemic and that will have serious ramifications for society

>> No.18234990

>>18234957
>advances towards an anonymous woman in a bar is 100% guaranteed way to get arrested in 2021.
I hate the fact that this is more true than untrue. I live in the Balkans and it's still risky; in the West it's probably impossible to hit on a woman as a non-Chad

>> No.18234999

>>18234793
Read Dharma Bums by Kerouac

>> No.18235003

>>18234985
it's amazing how the same libs that have a meltdown if they see someone without a mask suggest that dudes go to random private clubs and house parties to get laid during a pandemic, the hypocrisy kind of amazing

>> No.18235016

>>18234990
>I live in the Balkans and it's still risky
are you a Slavbro or Greek? yeah for a long time Slavic countries seemed to me like a stronghold that successfully defended itself against radical feminism but in 2021 there's literally not a single place on earth exempt from influence of radical feminism

>> No.18235026

>>18235016
humans were originally matriarchal until agriculture and urbanization, we're just returning to monke like all u ted dudes always say you want

>> No.18235025

>>18235016
Slavbro

>> No.18235030

>>18234977
I agree there’s a lot of risk and environment is very hostile to that but it does happen. Besides, that graph shows a long timeline and that was still fairly normal when I was a kid.

>>18234985
Yeah, probably. But if you’re making predictions you’re also assuming that it’s going to be like this forever. I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the case but I also don’t know.

>> No.18235032

>>18235025
>>18235026
>19:48:58
>19:48:57
It's always epic when this happens

>> No.18235048

>>18235016
>literally not a single place on earth exempt from influence of radical feminism
If it's any comfort, Saudi Arabia exists lol

>> No.18235050

>>18234999
Wasted trips

>> No.18235051

>>18235030
it's wild that libs tell lonely dudes who can't get laid "just sexually harass your coworkers" after screeching about sexual harassment for a generation

>> No.18235053

>>18234793
>post 2008
smartphones were a mistake

>> No.18235072

>>18235025
cool, which nationality? I'm a Polack
>>18235026
I'm not a Ted dude. people who seriously consider that idea are exclusively rootless urban dwellers. they want sexual promiscuity associated with early stages of human development AND high level of material afluence associated with civilized state of development which cannot exist without prevalance of monogamy
>>18235030
true but I don't think there's a sign of this trend stopping, do you? I agree that 2020 and 2021 will be outliers due to pandemic but the general trend is alarming

>> No.18235080

>>18235051
I don’t think libs tell lonely dudes who can’t get laid anything. I don’t think they care about lonely dudes.

>> No.18235091

>>18234793
I've unironically been in love before, but that was before I started reading.

>> No.18235102

>>18235072
>true but I don't think there's a sign of this trend stopping, do you?
No, I don’t either. It might take a different form but it will be basically the same thing. I guess I just think young guys tend to take an overly pessimistic view of this. For sure, there’s a lot to be pessimistic about and the dating scene is hard but from what I’ve seen, a lot of them basically don’t even try. I understand why they don’t try because I’ve been there myself and in a lot of ways I’m still like that but if I’m being really honest, half of the problem is I don’t try. I live in a tiny little town, I don’t really go anywhere, I’m not particularly open to people. How can I expect to like meet someone at work or a bar or wherever if that’s how I am?

>> No.18235111

>>18235091
yeah i got laid more when i was dropout stoner skater dude, reading is like watching porn, you're living vicariously through fictional scenarios

>> No.18235116

>>18235080
what? incels, MRAs and MGTOWs live rent free in these subhumans' heads lol. there's even an entire page devoted to "dismantling" misogyny and "toxic" masculinity.
https://wehuntedthemammoth.com/

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i've never had sex and I don't want to

>> No.18235123 [DELETED] 

>>18235102
i don't have enough, if i had a middle class job i have no doubt i would have been married a long time ago. i suppose i could get laid, but i can't afford to support a family, so it would just be pointless fucking, and i can fap for free if i need a nut

>> No.18235129

>>18235122
yikes. go outside right now.

>> No.18235142

>>18235122
Lmao is that Broly?

>> No.18235151

>>18234903
Nigeria has like 200 million people and the tfr will not drop below replacement till 2090s. It’s going to be the next India

>> No.18235162

>>18235151
What the fuck even happens in Nigeria? You don't hear much from them.

>> No.18235165

short answer: inverted population pyramid causing older males to poach younger females, leaving young males with nothing

long answer:

>male bias sex ratio, ~51.3% [ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4413335/]
>used to be mitigated by higher rates of miscarriage, infant mortality, and fatalities in tribal warfare
>no longer the case due to medical advances, resulting in persistent young male surplus
>coupled with inverted population pyramid in developed world
Darrell Bricker
Empty Planet: Preparing for the Global Population Decline
youtube.com/watch?v=bSAgHvETNSg

>developing world has male child preference and achieved through sex selective abortion
>india 35,585,741 surplus males as of their 2011 census
>china 35,012,112 surplus males as of their 2021 census
Valerie Hudson
The First Political Order
youtube.com/watch?v=q_I1Cja1czk

>resultant demographic imbalance, male/female and old/young have massive geopolitical repercussions
Peter Zeihan
Disunited Nations
youtube.com/watch?v=3_GrDbcC0N4

George Friedman
The Storm Before the Calm
youtube.com/watch?v=8qbhWdorC4M

>men are checking out of society, nothing to live for
Dr. Nicholas Eberstadt
Men Without Work
youtube.com/watch?v=d43Z3GnTrqs

Richard C. Koo
The Escape from Balance Sheet Recession and the QE Trap
youtube.com/watch?v=8YTyJzmiHGk

>this is a precursor to chaos
Peter Turchin
Historical Dynamics: Why States Rise and Fall
youtube.com/watch?v=TttZmYRIILU

>> No.18235177

>>18234793
I will die a virgin, yes.
But I will not die alone or without love, for I will die in God's embrace. And I will join Him and Saints in Heaven.

>> No.18235192

>>18234903
What do people think of state mandated population growth? Consider China, for example. They will experience a population crunch in the coming years, and this is the single greatest thing to any dreams of hegemony facing them. Is it unreasonable to think that the CCP will institute a 3 child policy in the future? They could augment this with the mandated inseminations of single women, etc. In a Western/democratic country this is impossible, but I think it could be done and will be done in places like China.

>> No.18235200

>>18235177
>>18234906
Sad copes. No degree of spiritual delusion can replicate the bliss triggered by intimacy with a woman.

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>>18234793
I had a really hard time coping with this earlier this year, I feel alright currently though
Smoking helps, unfortunately

>> No.18235315

>>18234956
It's not something you can easily change, at least for me
My issues aren't superficial, it's my rotten personality
Whatever girls want, I don't got it

>> No.18235337

>>18235200
Hard cringe.

>> No.18235346

>>18235165
>this is a precursor to chaos
I for one welcome it.

>> No.18235355

>>18235346
I doubt it. Our civilization is so complex and all-encompassing. I can't ever imagine it deviating from the current trends, much less falling into total chaos.

>> No.18235358

for me it's economic, i don't make enough money to support a family, if i did i have no doubt i would have been married years ago.

>> No.18235377

>femoids causing global collapse because they wont fuck some incels

Unless they can start putting their money where their mouth is and pick up on incel slack I dont see anything positive happening.

>> No.18235385

>>18234793
NOOOOO NOT THE HECKING LOVERINO NOT THE HECKIN DYING ALONERINO NOOOOOOOOOOO WHATEVER WILL I DO NOW

>> No.18235397

>>18235385
Not experiencing love is unironically pretty dreadful desu

>> No.18235398

>>18235165
on every metric the united states went off the rails around 1970. in this case i'm watching the ebrstadt one about male labor force participation, but you can basically pick any stat that you think reflects societal health, and you will see it starts go the wrong way right around there

>> No.18235403

>shit sex with random whores is something you can't miss

>> No.18235406

>>18235385
just drink the soi until your testosterone drops to zero and then you won't care anymore!

>> No.18235407

>>18235397
Why?

>> No.18235413

>>18235162
There's a lot of Nigerians on Twitter, if you look. Don't know how biased it is towards a small upper class, but it's interesting. In general, they're much more religious, they're proud of their various subnations, southerners hate northerners, and the country is going to shit.

>> No.18235416

>>18235355
said every other advanced civilization in the past

>> No.18235417

>>18235165
>35 millions surplus males
Holy fuck. I knew it was bad, but not that bad. That's like a slightly less populous Spain.

>> No.18235420

>>18235355
>I can't ever imagine it deviating from the current trends
the trends are all trending towards decline tho

>> No.18235421

>>18235358
Same bro, most women won't even date once they find out you're poor (in my experience)

>> No.18235427

>>18235355
Complexity is not necessarily a good protection for systemic upheaval, it might even be a cause of fragility (see the Bronze Age collapse).
However it would take a lot to really put down the major of our social institution at the same time, so who knows.

>> No.18235433

>>18235192
No, you're vastly overestimating what the Chinese people will put up with.

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Sorry gubmint, but my toxic NEET semen will only stain the wombs of the finest e-thots.

Beat it, statist!

>> No.18235437

>>18235421
it's possible to get laid being poor, but it's never going to go anywhere so what's the point

>> No.18235442

>>18234793
>staying pure before mariage is a sin
It just means that homosexuality is on the rise, half the british are gay now.

>> No.18235451

>>18235442
Big gay if true

>> No.18235455

>>18235442
gay clubs are a hell of a lot more fun than going to some douchebag straight club, ngl, plus thirsty dudes will buy you drinks lmao

>> No.18235473

>>18235413
Reliable Nigerian sources inform me that Nigeria is a shithole and you should get out of it as soon as you can.

>> No.18235477

>>18234903
>and you can't just continuously move people and industry.
Thats exactly what they'll do. Then they'll blame it on young westerners not having kids while ignoring all the factors involved for why that's happening.

>> No.18235479

>>18235442
Honestly wish I was gay, millennial and zoomer females are despicable beasts.

>> No.18235489

>>18235165
>talking about books
>non-fiction books at that
>in lit
lol, so gay

>> No.18235494

>>18234990
It's not that bad, I live in the West, and pre-pandemic I could approach women and sometimes even get approached by them. And I'm no Chad, I'm the liftless nerd.

>> No.18235496

>>18235437
Yeah, it's all so pointless.

>> No.18235503

>>18234956
Rise up, burn the government buildings to the ground, hang every traitor from a culling tree, and take the thots to be your sex slaves.

>> No.18235526

>>18235503
Or you could, you know....go outside

>> No.18235544

>>18234903
They're definitely going to try. Anything to keep the pension fund-government system running.

>> No.18235545

>>18234793
I've experienced the highest love. Amor fati.

>> No.18235558

>>18235406
nigga that will just do the opposite. Less testosterone = more emotional

>> No.18235572

>>18235558
>roid rage is less emotional
ok if u say so mister bro scientist

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>>18234793
That's true. But I won't do anything about it.
Maybe I could do something about it, but I lack the courage, drive and general mental wellbeing to even attempt to do anything to change my situation. Maybe I deserve everything, being the spineless coward that I am.
These weirdly satisfying waves of self-pity, hatred and spite require no effort and no change. The alternative path is scary and too arduous. It's gotten to the point where I don't even want to change anymore, I genuinely have no desire for it. I would only welcome change if it was effortless, I want an instantaneous and painless catharsis.
But that doesn't exist, so I choose to lay down and let myself rot. At least I can distract myself with books and shows while waiting for this joke of a life to be over.

>> No.18235574

>>18234923
This is what a dying society looks like.

>> No.18235577

>>18235030
>>18235030
>But if you’re making predictions you’re also assuming that it’s going to be like this forever. I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s the case but I also don’t know.
All trends point to it getting worse, not better. #metoo has heavily penalized any kind of sexual interactions outside of clubs/bars and online dating (I wouldn't be surprised if tinder and pornhub were secretly funnelling money into promoting #metoo), all mainstream media promotes a cheap hookup culture and brandishes literal hookers as role models to children (did you know that WAP has no age restrictions on youtube? meanwhile lots of independent journalism; Caspian Report in particular comes to mind- does have age restrictions for completely arbitrary reasons)-- and this is by design, private prisons have actively funded the development of rap music and related genres in order to have more retarded career criminals they can use as slaves, and universities do everything they can to turn young women into insufferable whores using YOUR tax dollars.
We need shariah law and mass executions. Its the only way to save society at this point

>> No.18235579

>>18235574
good. fuck it, who cares. the masses are on reproductive strike and the elites are powerless to reverse it.

>> No.18235582

>>18235579
The elites want this. Once automation eliminates the need for the proles, depopulation is the next goal.

>> No.18235586

>>18235572
who the fuck's talking about roids retard

>> No.18235594

Met my girlfriend, in love, because I mentioned her quoting Infinite Jest at work and we hit it off. There’s hope for us, anons, OP is just bitter.

>> No.18235595

>>18235586
cope, just drink the soi and watch the cartoons

>> No.18235607

>>18235433
Am I? I might be falling for CCP propaganda, but it seems to me that the Chinese people, or at least the mainland Han majority, is very much a supporter of the Chinese government in all things. It might seem extreme, but if their governments asks it of them I feel they would acquiesce to an authoritarian population growth policy.

>> No.18235608

>>18235192
I wouldn’t be surprised by that at all. Westerners are afraid of biological and social engineering. Chinese aren’t.

>> No.18235609

>>18235582
marx is probably wrong, but according to him all value comes from human labor, you don't get the same exploitation from capital

>> No.18235612

>>18235579
nigga they specialize in the mass transport of warm bodies. They don't want you to have kids they want to ship people in.

>> No.18235618

>>18234793
nobody here wants to admit it but it's men's fault that virginity is rising

porn addiction is fucking us hard, testosterone has dropped like a rock

>> No.18235622

>>18235608
>Westerners aren't bugmen, Chinese are

>> No.18235628

>>18235165
stop spamming this shit everywhere

>> No.18235634

>>18235618
high testosterone doesn't suddenly get you laid, some mother fucker at a dungeons and dragons convention could have the highest record testosterone in a human, all that would happen is he gets carpal tunnel syndrome from fapping with a death grip

>> No.18235641

>>18235577
I was referring specifically to his point about coronavirus lockdowns, not large trends.

>> No.18235656

>>18235177
>But I will not die alone or without love, for I will die in God's embrace. And I will join Him and Saints in Heaven.
bro if you are not interested in love and you wanna become a saint at least leave 4chan
I'm not very familiar with good religious practices, but I think having someone to love it's more moral than staying on this degenerate shithole
may god help you find the right way

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>>18235595

>> No.18235664

>>18235622
Well, if it works, it works. I wonder if the third world thought the same of Europeans when we Industrial engineering helped us conquer the world.

Regardless, I don’t really see what’s “bugman” about say, a government creating social programs to encourage young people to date instead of what we do now, which is let them die off and import cheap labor and capital from South America and South Asia respectively.

>> No.18235666

>>18235634
high test leads to a stronger desire in females and a desire to improve yourself which leads to v card stamp

you cant seriously blame women for male virginity, they're the same as they were 20, 40 60 years ago, its men who have changed

>> No.18235671

>>18235666
>high test
I'm hairy as shit, I lift, I eat well, but I have no desire to improve myself at all
I don't have other symptoms of low test either
What is this?

>> No.18235674

>>18235666
>absurd broscience
well i guess i got higher tee than u cuz i lost it at 16, nerd

>> No.18235675

>>18235671
What are the symptoms of low T?

>> No.18235681

>>18235674
>>18235671
why are you even talking to me if you're not a virgin? why are you even in this thread? are you just here to laugh at us? thats kidna fucked up

>> No.18235682

>>18235681
Calm down I'm technically a virgin

>> No.18235683

>>18235666
>blame for virginity
Why would you blame someone for a universal good? Virginity rising is fantastic, the only problem is failed normalfags like you who want "muh love" and "muh pussy". Kill yourself.

>> No.18235684

>>18235666
I think you underestimate how the shifts in social interactions between men and women over the years has lead to our current situation. Have men become more fat, lower test, etc? Sure, but I can't imagine that the majority of men are that undesirable, physically. It has to be a societal issue.

>>18235609
Eventually birthrates will fall globally. This racket can't go on forever.

>> No.18235690

>>18235681
i'm here because the civilization is on a perilous decline, and instead of people demanding structural changes, dude likes you blame it on some biological pseudoscience

>> No.18235698

>>18235683
>Virginity rising is fantastic
famous last words of christian rome right before getting rolled by a germanic horde

>> No.18235710

>>18235698
Who is the germanic horde this time?

>> No.18235715

>>18235607
They support it because even people in their twenties have seen their standard of living rise dramatically in their lifetime. The common refrain of Chinese is that they are free in their personal lives.
I could see Chinese getting memed into larger families if the government really promotes celebrities with multiple children. But I'm even doubtful of their ability to do that. They complain about the current generation of boys being sissies, but are unable to stop the popularity of effeminate pretty boy celebrities.

>> No.18235717

>>18235710
Thirdworlders

>> No.18235726

>>18235683
present some decent arguments next time and i'll bother responding to you

>>18235684
i mean, i would fuck a modern male, not sure what makes you think a woman would either

>> No.18235738

>>18235200
Not true cuh. God and purpose trump having a gf. Actually, it'll make having a gf easier if you care more about something else then them. I've been fucking since I was 17, now 26. Not giving a shit about anything but also having good hygiene, will get you laid. The hygiene is really important you stinky incels.

>> No.18235739

>>18235413
Everything I've ever heard or seen of Nigeria makes the whole country look like some comfy southern town where all the woman are chunky and religious and the men just want to grill and everybody knows everybody else and gossips about them constantly. Idk how much of this is true, but it's been my impression.

>> No.18235749

>>18235433
>you can't just use the state to encourage people to have big families and ethnically homogenous communities, thats the opposite of what the state should be doing >:[

>> No.18235763

>>18235526
It's not going to change my socio-economic position. Or the fact that every fucking bar and club is closed right now and I don't have a support network to interact with people otherwise. If the government hadn't just spent over a year outlawing social interactions you might have a point but I'm going to put the blame where it's due here.

>> No.18235780

>>18235579
They're the ones creating policy after policy to make it harder to settle down, marry, have a family, have kids, etc. They want a fluid population of atomized workers they can move around at a whim- if you watch any of the videos about the Great Reset they describe this in a lot of detail. They also like using immigrant labour because those people don't have the same labour norms and are easier to exploit.

>> No.18235787

>>18235698
Yeah. Late Rome, a period famed for the rise of chastity.
>>18235726
You already did respond to me, you fat faggot. Don't bother next time, you might blow a casket.

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>>18234793
>implying

>> No.18235793

>>18235738
I have impeccable hygiene and I'm an outcast, you're full of shit

>> No.18235800

>>18235641
So you're saying that on top of larger trends the government has made it even worse by making all the traditional ways young people have of forming relationships illegal?
I agree.

>> No.18235805

>>18235738
Nonsense

>> No.18235810

>>18235800
Well, I wasn’t saying that. The guy I was responding to was saying that.

>> No.18235814

>>18235738
>just pray, take a shower a b urself bro
Kys you retard

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>>18234903
This is actually pretty crazy, because for a civilization that requires constant economic growth (capitalism) a shrinking population is doom for the status quo. Yet I can imagen a post black death type situation where after there is a new golden age, as history tens to do.

>TL;DR we are living at the end of and empire

>> No.18235823

>>18235666
>it's individually the fault of everyone, ignore the systemic issues
Okay satan.
I don't disagree with you, but who's responsible for promoting pornography to children and making it extremely accessible? Who are the media exes pushing jokes about pornhub and tinder and onlyfans on every single mainstream channel? Who hires actual strippers and gives them million dollar record deals while presenting them as role models to a generation of young women? Gee I double who wonder what could be behind such far-ranging social trends.

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>>18234903
>we gonna be living in a word with a over billion Africans and world majority religion as Islam.
So how we gonna fix this?

>> No.18235834

>>18235822
Only way to reverse birth rate decline is to revoke women's rights. However, we have a religious aversion to this, so it won't happen. That would be a Fascism!

>> No.18235837

>>18235822
No civilization requires constant economic growth and there are multiple examples that prove it.

>> No.18235842

>>18235822
As long as they can import subhuman workforce from the third world, capitalism will survive. It’s an end of identity and culture, but not systematical collapse.

>> No.18235845

>>18235831
Artificial wombs and a new religion

>> No.18235853

I doubt even if the government gave you every fucking incentive to have kids westerners still wouldnt. Hell plenty of western countries already do. They just gave up as a people, it sucks but once you accept it, it stings a little less.

>> No.18235860

>>18235823
thats irrelevant, its YOUR life, its YOUR fault you're a porn addict, you cant just pass the blame on you need to fucking fix yourself

>> No.18235867

>>18234903
Now show one across economic classification and not states. See, the mistake is thinking along lines and not realizing how things stratify within aggregate numbers.

>> No.18235880

>>18235837
Not all civilizations had a massive pension system either.

>>18235842
Not really, new human inputs won't magically keep the financial system afloat as the EU will learn the hard way. Retirement funds and endless borrowing against the future are propping up the stock market, which keeps Western corporations afloat, which provides patronage for the university-educated class (along with government employment) and wealth to their owners. Injecting 200m Africans won't magically make the system solvent, though, when you look at the magnitude of the unfunded liabilities.

>> No.18235886

>waaahh there’s global sociopolitical conspiracy preventing me from getting laid
Hilarious mental gymnastics in this thread. Girls are easier than ever, most of them are dtf on the first date even.

>> No.18235889

>>18235355
>I doubt it. Our civilization is so complex and all-encompassing.
Complexity is more delicate than simplicity, for the one requires less while the other requires more, so therefore with increase of complexity comes increase of fragility. The all-encompassing aspect / comprehensiveness property of our civilization is truly what makes our civlization strong, for the damaging of any part leaves the rest of the system to rebuild it, giving it a built-in immune system.

>> No.18235902

>>18235545
what a cope

>> No.18235904

>>18235436
okay boomer

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>>18235831
Putin will press the button on his deathbed

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haha nah I'm not looking for anything at the moment.... nah man yeah just trying to work on myself for the time being, this pandemic really made meeting people hard ahahahaha.... yeah I was talking to some girls at church before lockdown heh, havent seen em since.... yeah if I see them I'll...I'll say hello hahaha defo bro...

>> No.18235937

>>18235860
I'm not a porn addict. I was almost married even but I decided I'd rather work on myself than get caught up in the rat race just so I could live up to some woman's expectations. I don't like interacting with women because I've been cancelled before and had my career destroyed over arbitrary baseless accusations. My situation is economically precarious, and thanks to COVID I've lost several jobs for reasons beyond my control. My life is enjoyable and I'll probably get married through my religious community once I've gotten my personal finances in order.
The point is that you can't just blame and shame everybody for problems caused by a few people who abuse their inordinate power and influence in society. Western society is being torn apart and restructured in ways that make it almost impossible to have a healthy family while encouraging lifelong solitude as a way of promoting consumption. These real issues should be addressed, but you'd rather simp for the status quo by calling any young man with self awareness a low-t porn addict.

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>>18234933
Stop fetish posting about AFSM, that's not how matting works. All primates are either tournament (such as gorillas) or pair bonding (such as colobines). Right now humans are about in the middle, and at most ether we will become more equal in size (with few men getting to mate) or less so (with more men getting to mate). Ether woman will become bigger but men the same size or men will get small and woman the same size. But there is never a world where woman are bigger than men.

On a side note I also do have a amazon fetish but I'm just not a fucking faggot about it.

>> No.18235955

>>18235845
sounds like Brave New World

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>>18235834
>That would be a Fascism!

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18235960

>>18235934
>heh, yeah grandma I have a few prospects but I'm just taking my time. Gotta wait for the right one, y-you know

>> No.18235961

>>18235165
How an American can watch any of these and think anything other than “I want out” is beyond me.

>> No.18235965

>>18235837
>and there are multiple examples that prove it.
yet you didn't post any, its almost as if you don't know how capitalist markets work

>> No.18235984

>>18235961
Because for European-Americans there is nowhere to go. We can't even get citizenship in our ancestral homelands.

>> No.18235988

>>18235965
Right and according to people like you, Japan should’ve collapsed by now. You’re clueless. Don’t pretend otherwise.

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>>18235934
>>18235960

>> No.18235996

>>18235961
this place was the out

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>>18234916
Ha ha blacks like chicken...

>> No.18235998

>>18235946
That doesnt matter at all when we're talking about genetically modifying people to be more optimized in the anthropocene.
Anyone still talking about natural or sexual selection is a moron.

>> No.18236009

>>18235984
Rightly so! Imagine if Germany was dumb enough to take German-Americans back, for example - even if they fixed their demographic issues, after one generation they'd have a domestic fifth-column demanding more refugees. All Euros with a brain must refuse any American "escapees" for the sake of their own survival.

>> No.18236010

>>18235996
How do you figure? America seems to be the only one clinging to immigration as a lifeline for growth. The rest are either quite there yet or made peace with stagnation.

>> No.18236011

>>18235988
Japan is practically being propped up by American and global financial institutions, yet still they are stagnate, the day the US goes so do they.

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18236021

no one will ever love me because i have a terrible personality and dont work right in the head

>> No.18236023

>>18236011
Right. Any day now...

>> No.18236027

lol i literally dont care

>> No.18236035

>>18235998
>humans that wont even get vaccinated will go out of there way to genetically modify themselves so they can live out there mommy dom sex fantasy

>> No.18236037

>>18234793
True. The closest thing I have ever experienced to religious ecstasy is knowing that somebody wanted me. I will never have that again, what's the point.

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>>18236021
I'm gonna die alone because I'm just boring desu, it's alright I suppose but idk, kind of sucks at night when you're alone in bed. I am 25 and genuinely don't worry about it too much, loads of great friends and experiences, just never been close to a woman romantically. Not bad looking, not really mega autist or whatever, just boring lol. The worst part is, if I tried, I probably could find someone. But what then?

>> No.18236044

>>18236010
I mean in terms on initial colonization >>18236023
about five years

>> No.18236052

>>18236011
This is the only bad part of the US losing power to China.

>> No.18236055

>>18236021
>no one will ever love me because i have a terrible personality and dont work right in the head
we call that being fat and gay, stop doing it

>> No.18236080

>>18236052
Yes, and Japan know this, that's why there are starting to get a lager military going again.

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>> No.18236093

>>18236021
Women don’t give a shit about morals, virtues or knowledge, just channel your derangement into sociopathic arrogance and you’ll swim in pussy.

>> No.18236104

>>18234820
I remember my first sexual experience, Easy Lay Laura. Ginger with freckles about half a stone overweight, slightly green teeth, they said this was due to the amount of semen that had been shot over them. Over at a friend's house, Fiona, dozing on floor on a pillows with both of them after smoking a tobacco and hash joint rolled up in Rizla Papers. Laura pulls my hand over to get crotch. No idea what I'm doing. More nervous than a cat in Chinatown. After flailing around hopelessly with my fingers she says, "Meet me on the bedroom in five minutes." Panic. Go in after three minutes at best. Shows me what to do. The other girls 6 old daughter comes in. Completely ignore her. Life in Scotland in the 90's.

>> No.18236109

>>18236035
>America having any future whatsoever

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>>18236109
i'm samefagging hard, if you did see my posts on Japan you will know I don't believe this nation is long for this world either (and that's a good thing!)

>> No.18236143

>>18234793
>he thinks normies experience love
normies can barely experience anything at all, let alone love

>> No.18236146

>>18234793
I sometimes read Jules Verne aloud for my Brazilian gf between sex. meet once a week and fuck 7-10 times per meeting. Life's good

>> No.18236148

I got banned for posting Billie Eilish yesterday but this whiny /r9k/ shit stays up for 200 replies?

Jannies are tranny incels.

>> No.18236160

>>18236133
China's power is overrated tho, they have the same fertility issues as the rest of the non-thirdworld world