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>Poverty in itself does not make men into a rabble; a rabble is created only when there is joined to poverty a disposition of mind, an inner indignation against the rich, against society, against the government.
Was he right?

>> No.18227589
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Pop-politics but this book suggests it's when poverty lies on top of cultural / ethnic divisions and inequality. People can stand being poor if the people making the money belong to their "tribe". Don't know how true it is but sounds compatible with what Hegel's saying

>> No.18227610

Lmao, so Hegel was a pro-establishment shill like Juden Patreon

>> No.18227618

>>18227570
I fully realized this by staying in monasteries on holidays.
Also made me realize I'm not as strong as I thought I was. I've always been quite far the lolberg route but there is still a bit of that spirit of indignation in me.

>> No.18227619

>>18227570
> doesn’t use rabblr.com

>> No.18227643

>>18227610
Hegel just described you.

Yikes.

>> No.18227673

this is just zizek. ironically it echoes in fractals that people get stuck in that 'le quirky cocaine sniff man' tangent which is just the contemporary spectacle updating of that same peasant tier cognition in marks time.

>> No.18227734

>>18227643 >>18227618
>>18227610
>bad things happen due to society so analyzing le hecking society is super duper important, jsut give me a salary and career for this!!!11

>> No.18227740

>>18227730
>>18227734
Medicate, now.

>> No.18227789

>>18227570
Many great men in history were poor. Moses and Buddha rejected princedom in favor of seeking the spiritual in the wilderness.

>> No.18227797

>>18227570
What is a person if he is poor, but loves and trusts the rich, society and the government?
A fool.

>> No.18227814

>>18227789
But they didn't seek to uproot civil society like communists do.

>> No.18227820

>>18227570
One of the most harmful thinkers in history with Marx and Luther

>> No.18229626

>>18227610
The good old days when people had thrust in "society", "the government".
If only you knew how bad things really are, what they became.

>> No.18229650

>>18227820
Both based

>> No.18229659

>>18227570
This is where the need for Marx's turn was needed

>> No.18229664

>>18227570
what if this supposed disposition of mind is the result of being poor?

>> No.18229666

>>18227814
there is nothing remotely civil about modern society, communists are men of action pulling the life support on a terminally sick history

>> No.18229724

>>18227570
OF course. Poverty is about expectations. it's relative.

>> No.18229753

>>18227570
Only if the rich and society have a semblance of saving grace. In 2021 he is wrong.

>> No.18229786

>>18227570
>Poverty in itself does not make men into a rabble; a rabble is created only when there
Yeah? Typically, people are not resentful of the rich. Being poor doesn't mean you have to hate rich people.

>> No.18230279

>>18227570

He is saying that men join into irrational mobs when poverty is combined with a sense of common indignity.

>> No.18230913

>>18230279
This

>> No.18230923

>>18227814
Moses lead a massive slave revolt and Buddha created a spiritual movement that seriously threatened the hegemony of the ancestral local religion based on hereditary classes.

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>>18230923
>Buddha created a spiritual movement that seriously threatened the hegemony of the ancestral local religion based on hereditary classes.
Lies, Buddhism never seriously threatened Hinduism but was limited to the bugman city dwellers of Ancient India and a few wandering monks, it never penetrated deeply into the agricultural communities spread throughout the countryside where the vast majority of the population lived, the proximity to nature gave these people a natural wisdom and grace so that they could see right through Buddhism lies. Thankfully Buddhism was eventually retroactively refuted for being the nihilistic bullshit that it is by the legendary Sri Shankaracharya (PBUH), vanquishing it from the land of Bharat

>> No.18230969

>>18227589
They're bit my tribe if they're Jewish or do not serve the interest of my tribe.

>> No.18231058

>>18230960
That seems like a pretty nice cope, hope it's serving you well. Still Buddhism represented a threat to the spiritual basis of social organization in India.

>> No.18231088

>>18231058
>That seems like a pretty nice cope
There’s nothing to cope over, people cope in response to problems but the victory of Hinduism over Buddhism in India is not a problem but is instead a great event which deserves to be celebrated

>> No.18231093

>>18231088
I suppose you're right. Hope you enjoy celebrating it with your brahmin kin tonight. You're from a brahmin family right?

>> No.18231240

>>18231093
> You're from a brahmin family right?
No, I’m a white westerner. This may be hard for you to understand but I like to see truth and goodness succeed even when it doesn’t directly provide personal benefits for me

>> No.18231406

>>18231240
>No, I’m a white westerner.
The Hindu must be so proud to have an ally like you!

>This may be hard for you to understand but I like to see truth and goodness
'm sure you understand much about the truth and goodness of Hinduism, having thoroughly been schooled in it for years, as a trusted disciple, by a learned Indian scholar.

>> No.18231687

>>18231088
Buddhism stopped being a threat, like all religion, when it became a state religion. Instead of people becoming genuine ascetics, people sought the very thing Buddhism sought to vanquish - vanity. Shankaracharya's cliche was just another competing religious project for non-sense. Zen, which is so much better than both of them, kept the iconoclastic tradition intact without surrendering to the cheap, cultish road of religious enlightenment.

>> No.18231743

>>18227610
More like an anti-resentment übermensch

>> No.18232751

>>18231406
>I'm sure you understand much about the truth and goodness of Hinduism, having thoroughly been schooled in it for years
I’m an autodidact

>>18231687
>Zen, which is so much better than both of them, kept the iconoclastic tradition intact without surrendering to the cheap, cultish road of religious enlightenment.
All of Buddhism is a cult of religious enlightenment since you worship a guy who was ostensibly (but not really) enlightened. Everything good in Chan is just the result of the Chinese diluting gay nihilist Buddhism with their own Taoism.