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Space Opera Edition
>What is the last Space Opera you read?

Previous threads:
>>18214978
>>18200057
>>18186898
>>18175146

Thread rules:
>No anime
>No manga/comic books
>No audiobooks
>Only books by western and European authors

FANTASY
Selected:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21329.jpg
General:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21328.jpg
Flowchart:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21327.jpg

SCIENCE FICTION
Selected:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21326.jpg
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21331.jpg
General:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21332.jpg
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21330.jpg

NPR's Top 100 Science Fiction & Fantasy Books:
>https://imgoat.com/uploads/6d767d2f8e/21333.jpg

SF&F author listing with ratings and summaries:
>http://greatsfandf.com/authors-full-list.php

More recommendations
>https://4chanlit.fandom.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading/Genre_fiction
>http://4chanlit.wikia.com/wiki/Recommended_Reading

>Archive
>>/lit/?task=search2&search_subject=wsffg

>BOOKS
>>>/t/1023504 #
http://b-ok.cc/
http://libgen.rs/

>> No.18229686
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Top 42 recommended authors and their works so far in /wsffg/ in descending order. In total 104 different authors have been recommended and I have logged 206 recommendations in total.

Gene Wolfe
>Book of the New Sun
>Fifth Head of the Cerberus
>Soldier of the Mist
R. Scott Bakker
>The Second Apocalypse
Glen Cook
>The Black Company
>The Dread Empire
Frank Herbert
>Dune
David Eddings
>The Belgradiad
>Malloreon
>Elenium
Steven Erikson
>Malazan Book of the Fallen
Roger Zelazny
>The Chronicles of Amber
>Lord of Light
J.R.R. Tolkien
Patrick Rothfuss
>The Kingkiller Chronicles
David Gemmell
>Legend
>Wolf in Shadow
Andrzej Sapkowski
>The Witcher
Robert E. Howard
>Conan the Cimmerian
Joe Abercrombie
>The First Law
Isaac Asimov
>The Gods Themselves
Michael Moorcock
>Elric
Scott Lynch
>Gentlemen Bastard
>The Lies of Locke"
Jack Vance
>Dying Earth
>Lyonesse Trilogy
Clark Ashton Smith
>Zothique
Robert Jordan
>The Wheel of Time (YA)
Ursula K. Le Guin
>The Left Hand of Darkness
William Hope Hodgson
>The Night Land
Fritz Leiber
>Fafhrd and the Gray Mouser
>Ill Met in Lankhmar
Raymond E. Feist
>The Riftwar Cycle
>Krondor's sons"
John Norman
>Tarnsman of Gor
Jim Butcher
>The Dresden Files
Brandon Sanderson
>Cosmere (YA)
Tad Williams
>Memory, Sorrow, and Thorn
Robert E. Heinlein
>Starship Troopers
>The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress
Alfred Bester
>The Stars my Destination
>The Demolished Man
George R.R. Martin
>The Dying of the Light
>A Song of Ice and Fire
H.P. Lovecraft
>The Call of Cthulhu
Dunsany
>The Gods of Pegana
Stephen King
Mervyn Peake
>Gormenghast
Robin Hobb
>Realm of the Elderlings
Sarah J. Maas
>A Court of Thorns and Roses (YA)
Jorge Luis Borges
Boris Strugatsky
>Roadside Picnic
Brian Catling
>The Vorrh Trilogy
H.G. Wells
>Time Machine
John Crowley
>Aegypt
John Scalzi
>Old Man's War
Adrian Tchaikovksy
>Shards of Earth

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>>18229679
>No audiobooks
Who says that audiobooks aren't books, fagget?
I just listened to this and it was fun.

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Ah, Men... always striving, always yearning, always driven by their basest desires yet confusing those desires for order, for clarity, for God. Like beasts they are... and yet so memorable.

>> No.18229787

>>18229778
Accursed ghoul

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>>18229730
Judging by that cover the quality of the writing must be through the roof.

>> No.18229948

>>18229778
What a huge disappointment those movies where.

>> No.18229950

The slog of slog, boys!

>> No.18230058

>>18229948
What are you talking about anon? The Bakker film adaptations are some of the best fantasy films of all time. The Ishterebinth sequence gives me chills every time. And the way they used puppets instead of CGI for the Inchoroi made them all the more creepy.

Shit, I need to do another Second Apocalypse movie marathon. The extended editions make it a slog of 19 hours, but it’s worth every minute. And Anya Taylor-Joy as Serwë is just delicious.

>> No.18230721

>>18229686
DragonLance Chronicles by Weiss and Hickman.

DnD kino

>> No.18230849

>>18229686
Ok I just started listening to The Court of Thorns and Roses audiobook because of this recommendation

>> No.18231011

So after the fat man dies or gives up, that's pretty much it for SF/F, right? I can't think of another living author writing any worth reading, and I'm pretty sure cell phones will ensure there are none more being generated.

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G'day chaps, I mentioned I'd started reading this one earlier in the week. Unfortunately it didn't live up to the recommendation, or even the blurb. Hardly feels like a work of fantasy, yet alone gothic horror, I stuck around for 350 pages of melodrama, and not the good kind. Interesting premise with an eccentric nobleman paying Madame Tussaud to create a wax automatons of his long dead waifu that ends up coming to life but it doesn't actually come to life, the POV characters that imagine it alive are either stupid or bonkers. Obviously not worthy of Shelley as the back claims, but it kept me up reading it.

>> No.18231024

>>18231011
Honestly it's your own fault if you're stuck in the past like a boomer

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Why does /sffg/ hate Mark Lawrence?

>> No.18231049

>>18231011
If SF/F is riding on Martin's work then it's dead already. asoiaf sucks ass

>> No.18231059

>>18231026
>YA

>> No.18231066

>>18231024
So, no names?

>>18231049
He's got texture. Some authenticity. It doesn't feel like the same old slop sifted through the heuristic recombinator of the internet.

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How do you do, my fellow whites?

>> No.18231091

>>18231079
>avatarfriend this butthurt

>> No.18231197

>>18231026
Some nonsense about how his prose is bad or something probably. His books are pretty short and light reads, and fairly enjoyable. I hear he's currently taking a hiatus from writing though. His current trilogy was finished two years ago and they're just staggering the releases of the books. For a guy who essentially only writes the exact same premise and in the same universe he sure got a lot of variety and mileage out of it.

>> No.18231724

>Finish book 5 of wheel of time.
>Asmodeon randomly dies
What the fuck

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Does this series get any better? I read the first one (the first book I should say not the short stories, but I already knew what happens in those) and I was bored out of my god damn mind for 80% of it. The parts where Geralt is doing Witcher shit like debating if a creature exists with a scientist were great. But the whole section where Triss is sick dragged the pace down and it never fully recovered.
Does the series get more fun?

>> No.18231924

>>18231729
Yes.

>> No.18232074

>>18231066
I highly doubt my taste matches most of /wsffg/ but:
John Crowley
Matt Ruff
Ted Chiang
Erin Morgenstern
Daryl Gregory
I read sword and sorcery too, I just read the Belgariad again for the third time, but if all OP is looking for is S&S I don't have any recommendations.

>> No.18232234

>>18231724
(you)? No !

>>18231729
Think there's talk about the author being forced to split it from ToC resulting in some of the issues, like low key climax. BoE is the slowest book yes but it's not like the rest of is particularly quick. Other characters than Geralt will also hog plenty of screentime.

>> No.18232237

>>18232234
I'm scared, anon. Asmodeon was fun

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>>18229679
>be me
>interested in reading Dune after all the hype for the movie and overwhelmingly positive reviews for the book
>regarded as "the greatest sci-fi novel ever written"
>go to my bookstore
>every copy has a "soon to be hit movie !!!!!" logo directly printed on the cover so you can't take it off like a sticker
Nevermind, I don't want to read it anymore.

>> No.18232252

>>18232245
Find an old copy in a second hand bookstore

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Today I continue reading WoT. Finnish translations divided all of the English versions into two or three books and this 13th book is the first 11 chapter of Lord of Chaos. There are 25 books in total + 3 of the last English books Werner translated

>> No.18232287

>>18232282
first 11 chapters*
were not translated**
sry phone posting ESL here

>> No.18232353

>>18232282
They actually did something similar for the English version. In 2002 and 2004 they republished the first and second books respectively each in two volumes. These two volume editions had larger print and illustrations and were marketed to the YA audience, and did fairly well on YA sales charts, but for whatever reason they never continued with it after The Great Hunt. Perhaps they felt the subject matter in the later books wasn't really suitable, or maybe Robert Jordan's worsening health interrupted the plans for it.

>> No.18232359

>>18232282
Interesting, they use the original cover art. What's the cover art on Eye of the World, if you don't mind sharing? The original print and the two volume edition mentioned >>18232353 have different covers, I wonder what the Finns wound up with.

>> No.18232363

>>18231724
It's not gonna be explained any time soon either.

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>>18232359
I have a mix of hardbacks and paperbacks. They pretty much printed like one or two editions and you gotta scout around old book stores to find all the books. I’m still missing one book from my collection. I doubt they will ever be reprinted.

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>>18232382
I know a lot of people hate it, but I love EotW's cover. It's just so damn comfy.

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>>18232400
Old SFF book covers are pog

>> No.18232430

>>18232382
Interesting. The first one is the same as the single-volume edition of Eye of the World in English. The second cover is clearly done by the same artist but I don't recognize it. Thanks for sharing.

And it's a shame about the prints being rare, that always sucks. You can still find plenty of the original covers in English even though they've since reprinted the books with various other covers.

>>18232400
I love the art too. It's really garish and the way it depicts characters and scenes feels like a deliberate exaggeration by the artist, but its suffused with the charm of the early 1990s. I miss when covers like this were the standard, but anymore very few authors do full color illustrations like this for covers. I think the only big name in fantasy who still does them is Brandon Sanderson. Everybody else does these awful new style covers with the plain color backgrounds (white is ubiquitous, ugly, eye-wrenching white) and some kind of foreground superimposed image, often a photograph or 3D model or just some abstract drawing or shape. It's just so uninspired.

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>>18232430
Based

>> No.18232477

>>18232430
The artist is Darrell K. Sweet

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>>18232430
>Everybody else does these awful new style covers with the plain color backgrounds (white is ubiquitous, ugly, eye-wrenching white) and some kind of foreground superimposed image, often a photograph or 3D model or just some abstract drawing or shape. It's just so uninspired.
God don't I know it. Look what they did to Tad Williams' magnum opus.
>left
>detailed illustration with vivid colors
>shows characters in a dramatic scene from the story, something unique to the book
>right
>30 minutes in photoshop
>looks like everything else published in the last 10 years

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>>18232430
What went wrong?

>> No.18232493

>>18232479
Marketing research said people preferred lazy computer generated images to detailed paintings, apparently.

>> No.18232497

>>18232493
>>18232479
There is an article in the New Yorker called The Decline and Fall of the Book Cover.

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>>18232497
I'll check it out, here's a cover I like in the meanwhile.

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I shall be honest, I often buy trashy pulps I have no intention of reading because I like the covers.

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>>18232523
I did this for one book. Pic related. World of IF from 1972, even has a cigarette ad inside it.

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>>18232478
Here's 20 ish minutes in Photoshop. I gave it a suitable modern fantasy book name too. I bet I could churn out 20+ of these every day and still have time to shitpost on 4chan.

>> No.18232557

>>18232523
I've bought a few 70s books because of the covers. They're used so not in any condition to really be reading anyway.

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>>18232245
Anon having a Hollywood blockbuster made by a book is the only true sign of quality.
Look at all the superhero masterpieces that we would have never known about if not for the movies.

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>>18232552
>>18232538
>>18232523
>>18232516
>>18232479
>>18232478
>>18232452
>>18232407
>>18232430
>>18232400
>>18232382
>>18232282
Seems like pulp book covers should have been the thread theme

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Reminder to read Bakker. Start with The Darkness That Comes Before. The Second Apocalypse series is part of the modern /wsffg/ canon. Not understanding Bakker memes renders you blind to most of the relevant discussion that goes on here.

>> No.18233003

>>18232965
I feel like I need to use a mind map to keep track of all the names, especially during the first war.

>> No.18233016

>>18232965
Never read Bakker, but the No God always looked interesting (based on the memes.) And some of the discussion about it.

>> No.18233025

>>18233003
It’s mostly irrelevant to keep track of the less important caste-noble names. More relevant ones you will remember just because they come up so often. At least that I how I managed it

>> No.18233144

>>18232965
>Reminder to read Bakker
Life is far too short for that anon.

>> No.18233166

>>18232245
>go to my bookstore
>Year of our Lord 2021
You played yourself.

>> No.18233184

>>18232245
>Dune written in 1965
>56 years later they make a second movie based in the book
>The otherwise good story now sucks because latest edition has shit cover

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>>18232965
Absolutely and irrefutably based

>> No.18233617

>>18232965
the more you idiots keep spamming the thread about him the less I want to read him

>> No.18233660

>>18233617
No one cares if you do. I doubt you would even enjoy Bakker with that attitude.

>> No.18233666

>>18233660
>No one cares if you do
clearly you do, seeing as how you're begging people to read his books

>> No.18233879

>>18232523
Killer Crabs looks awesome.

>> No.18234075

>>18229679
good job making it more difficult to open the links and using a dangerous website to host the images.

>> No.18234248

>>18233660
>No one cares if you do
then why do you shill him endlessly?

>> No.18234255

>>18234075
I'm certain that's part of the joke. You don't really believe this thread is here for discussion, do you?

>> No.18234462

Fuck E William Brown
Fuck Pay Pigs
Fuck Pay Walls
Fuck Incommunicado

>> No.18234631

>>18234075
you didnt complain the previous thread lurker

>> No.18234678

Just picked up a copy of Dune this past week its very cool seeing Herbert's predictions of computers already within the first 30 pages.
Is there anything similar to Dune I should take a look at?

>> No.18234858

>>18234678
If you are looking for future prediction I'd say Asimov's or H.G. Well's books.

>> No.18235384

>>18234462
based Fuck X poster but could you elaborate on Brown?

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fuck patrick rothfuss

>> No.18235487

>>18235460
His beard is super cringe and is probably only hiding his babyface

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Anyone here read Gideon the Ninth?

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>>18235500
Ratings are a little sus high, Ill probably avoid this forever. Wanna tell us about the book?

>> No.18235569

>>18235552
It's a mix of WH40K insanity, necromanctic body horror and teenage angst. Not really the kind of stuff I'm normally into but it's written well (mostly, there's some cringe to be sure) and the world building/lore is pretty interesting.

>> No.18235627

>>18235487
Le based wizard beard

>> No.18235733

>>18235552
>LGBT
>GLBT >Queer

>> No.18235740

>>18235500
I did, and very much enjoyed it. Was unlike anything I'd read before. The sequel was extremely jarring due to the second person tone, but somehow it made it work. That was the first second person novel I ever read, I'm not even sure how many exist.

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>>18235740
The only other second person novel I've read is Bright Lights, Big City (which is also very good), it's definitely an unconventional and to me confusing choice. I'm only about 25% into Harrow and I am still not very sure about what's going on.

>> No.18235785

>>18235764
I had my suspicions early on about what was happening and they turned out to be close to the mark. It's a fun book toward the end but man is the early part disorienting and exhausting to read.

>> No.18235852

>>18235460
Haha yeah... cool magic system though

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>>18235785
I don't really wanna get spoilered but my suspicion is that the second person chapters are from Gideons perspective within Harrow and the alternate Canaan House with Ortus is just Harrow being super traumatized and trying to kill the very memory of Gideon but I've still no idea who those insect things were in the beginning, what happened to Corona, Camilla etc, why the sword seems to make her puke just through touch and so on. It's a pretty cool read though.

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so last couple years in Fantasy I read

>Lovecraft's omnibus, 3500 pages ca
Pretty repetitive and underwhelming, took me a while to finish. (over a year I'd say, I quit every 5-6 stories)
>Borges' Fictions
10/10
>China Miéville's New Crobuzon cycle
interesting, especially Perdido Street Station, kinda lame at times (the steampunk shit especially)
>Black Company, all volumes
Started ok, magic is absolutely uninteresting except the flying whales
>Kingkiller Chronicle
dope but fuck the author

I also started lotsa shit, read 2 volumes of Malazan and quit, tried a few volumes of ASOIAF and Sanderson's stuff, all very disappointing.

Looking for more stuff like Perdido Street Station, Borges, and Kingkiller.

>> No.18235944

>>18235898
How does the omnibus differ from "The Complete Works of H.P. Lovecraft" which is 1188 pages?

I heard Joe Abercrombie talk once in a podcast and it was clear I am never ever ever going to read him.

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>>18235910
Science Fiction
>Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe
>Dune by Frank Herbert

Fantasy
>The Second Apocalypse by R. Scott Bakker
>Wheel of Time

>> No.18235971

>>18235944
>How does the omnibus differ
no idea, it's a french translation tho so maybe it got a lot longer (I know Kingkiller vol.2 is 2 tomes in French because it doubled in size in translation)

>> No.18235992

>>18235970
>Crossposting.
Op I thought you said you would fuck off?

>> No.18236000

>>18235970
dune is fantasy IMO but I'm no litfag so I don't want to disrupt anything

>> No.18236001

>>18235992
I did say that. There was still some derailment in my threads so I decided its okay that I do this one post. :) Now I leave /sffg/ alone for realzies

>> No.18236007

>>18236000
It is more SF than F, and its also a SF subclass Space Opera

>> No.18236017

>>18236007
but muh bene gesserit muh predicting future

>> No.18236030

>>18236017
the whole thing with Melange is pretty fucked up

>> No.18236031

>>18236001
>Derail several /sffg/ threads first
>Claim victim when it happens to you
Truly, you are a nigger of the highest order.

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>>18236031
>Does it trouble you, Proyas?

>> No.18236076

>>18236065
Weren’t you that one faggot who was caught samefagging?

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>>18236076
Probably not because I don't do that, schizoid.

>> No.18236103

>>18236094
You should really take your medication, its bad if you don't.

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Wtf, you retards told me this was good. I read the first 35 pages of this novel. No less than 12 named characters were introduced, and 3 of them died. 3 deaths. In the first 35 pages...

All he does is namedrop other countries and battles and historical figures that have never been mentioned before in an attempt to make it a huge and epic world but it just makes it fucking unreadable. This is the paragraph that I finally stopped reading after:

Hairlock bared his teeth. "The Tiste Andii are Mother Dark's first children. You've felt the tremors through the Warrens of Sorcery, Tayschrenn. So have I. Ask Dujek about the reports coming down from the North Campaign. Elder magic--Kurald Galain. The Lord of Moon's Spawn is the Master Archmage--you know his name as well as I do."

Why is this garbage recommended again?

>> No.18236118
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>>18236103
Here is my medicine.

>> No.18236144

>>18236117
dude you got filtered by the amount of exposition
there are many things that the reader has to deduct himself from various clues
most of the things in the books are not explicitly explained
if you just approach the book with an open heart its good
even tho there are many weird names and places you dont have to know them all straight away

>> No.18236150

>>18236000
Science fantasy is a term for a reason

>> No.18236152

>>18236117
t. Expositionlet
Don't read epic fantasy if you want to know what everything is the moment they mention it the first time.

>> No.18236155

>>18236117
it gets clearer afterwards and the pace calms down but it's still uninteresting

>> No.18236159

>>18236118
That's not medicine, that's a whore with a shit book.

>> No.18236200

>>18235866
I won't comment on the spoiler then. You find out a lot of stuff about the setting in the second book and I'm very anxious to see what the next one is like since it's named Alecto the Ninth.

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>>18236094

>> No.18236221

>>18236210
I did not post them. There is more than one bakkerchad obviously.

>> No.18236229

>>18236117
This series isn't for people who like quick easy reads. There's basically no exposition starting out so you have to pay attention and connect the dots yourself. The scale of the story is massive to the extent that after 6 books you are only just starting to understand the main conflict that is driving everything else that is happening. If you just want something easy that will hold your hand and explain everything find something else.

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>>18236200
Hol' up isn't Alecto the name of the Body? So she's gonna come out because the Ninth made a whole cult around her and Harrow has the hots for her and she'll kill God or something I guess? Wew.
But yeah I'm definitely enjoying it, hoping for more world building and more Mercy.
Also how is Ianthe such a BITCH jesus.

>> No.18236243

>>18236117
Another afternoon reader filtered by the true chad of epic fantasy.

>> No.18236271

>>18236210
I unironically posted those. Sorry, buddy.

Keep seething.

>> No.18236316

>>18236229
>>18236243
I don't dislike it because it's not quick and easy. I dislike it because the writing fucking sucks dick. I'll go back to reading actual literature, you enjoy your shit genre fiction you virgins.

>> No.18236325

>>18236316
Oh no what are we going to do now that he goes and reads the Ulysses?

>> No.18236407

>>18236316
Sure bro, I totally believe you took a break from reading the literary canon according to Harold Bloom to slum it with one of the most notoriously hard to get into fantasy series. Find some ice for your sore butt and maybe crack open a light novel.

>> No.18236441

>>18234631
I did though.
>>18217123

>> No.18236460

>>18232282
>>18232382
>>18232538

Rotate your photos, jesus christ.

(You're the same anon who couldn't bother to straighten his pic of the Finnish version of RuneQuest, either, aren't you?)

>> No.18236471

>>18236271
Don’t try to steal what I did. I posted them.

>> No.18236495

>>18236316
I'm not sticking up for a book series but it sure sounds like you got filtered hard.

>> No.18236501

>>18235500
Gideon dies at the end

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>>18236501
A little. And it was totally worth it.

>> No.18236563

>>18235500
Reading it now. It's a bit YA, but it's alright.

>> No.18236571

>>18236117
Be patient. The infodumping calms down once the narrative turns to Daruhjistan.

>> No.18236617

>tag: lovecraftian
>it's just another fucking rehash of his stories
Every fucking time.

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>>18236325
>>18236407
>>18236495
>all this butthurt by dumb fanboys

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>A year or two ago, David took up the practice of squeezing blood from the hearts of his victims into his hair. He was a furry man and any one heart yielded only a few tablespoons, but of course they added up quickly. Over time, the combination of hair and blood hardened into something like a helmet. Once, curious, she asked Peter how strong this would be. Peter, whose catalog included mathematics and engineering, looked up at the ceiling for a moment, thinking. “Pretty strong,” he said meditatively. “Clotted blood is harder than you’d think, but it’s brittle. The strands of hair would tend to alleviate that. It’s the same principle as rebar in concrete. Hmm.” He bent to his pad and scribbled numbers for a moment, then nodded. “Yeah. Pretty strong. It would probably stop a twenty-two. Maybe even a nine-millimeter.” For a while David had dripped it into his beard as well, but Father made him chisel this off when it became difficult to turn his head. All that was left was a longish Fu Manchu mustache.

>> No.18236935

>>18236625
Says the guy who rage posted about being too dumb to follow Malazan.

>> No.18237102 [DELETED] 

>>18236117
The first two books are terrible. At least with the WoT the bad books are in the middle.

>> No.18237211

I have a need. A need for sneed. Recs?

>> No.18237233

>>18235500
It was fun. Some people may not like the snarky dialogue.

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>>18237102
>At least with the WoT the bad books are in the middle.

>> No.18237297

>>18237211
Chuck.

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>>18235970
>Wheel of Time

Don't do this to yourselves. The Wheel of Time is literally the Waste of Time.

It's the most generic vanilla copy of Tolkien's works I've ever seen. The pacing is horrible, the story is predictable and there's nothing original whatsoever.

>> No.18237510

NAUTICAL
LOOKING
NEGRO

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>>18230058
My god, if only this were real.

>> No.18237648

>>18236118
based.

>>18236159
ngmi.

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>>18229686
Can I get a little short summary of themes of those books please.That would be appreciated. Like is it aliens, medieval or dark apocalypse.

>> No.18238258

>>18237351
Nothing original, I think that's a pretty unfair claim to throw at the Wheel of Times feet. The series starts off pretty generic, but after the first book it grows into its own.

>> No.18238366

>>18237351
The best thing to come from the Wheel of Time is that Blind Guardian album.

>> No.18238621

>>18237351
Tolkien didn't have spanking

>> No.18239045

>>18236617
Almost every one of Lovecraft’s own stories is a rehash of his other works. A lonely weird guy experiences some weird fucking shit and it ends badly.

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>>18236935
>butthurt midwit still thinks he's reading something complex

>> No.18239725

>>18238258
>it gets good, I promise
Surest sign of garbage to ever exist. Sunk cost rotting your dumb brain even more.

>> No.18239729

>>18239725
he said it grows into its own, he didn't say it would get good

>> No.18239734

>>18239729
Semantics, the last refuge of the retard in denial.

>> No.18239745

>>18229686
Remove Caitling

>> No.18239761

>>18239745
I am not removing author X because an anon asks me to. I myself do not agree with some of the authors but I keep track of recommendations nonetheless.

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>>18239745
dude has maas on there which is a literal troll

>> No.18239858

>>18239839
I’m not sure if the Muir talk in this thread is pure trolling or not.

>> No.18239885

>>18239725
Even Sando is better.

>> No.18239888

>>18239725
Refer to this anon >>18239729. EoTW is LoTR inspired (even straight up referencing some names), after that its pretty much its own thing.

>> No.18240026

>>18239734
> noun: semantics; the branch of linguistics and logic concerned with meaning.
"Oh noes, how dare he talk about reason and meaning instead of muh feels??1"

You sure he's the retard in your conversation?

>> No.18240201

>>18239745
If bakker is on the list, then King Caitling stays
and no, you will never be a woman

>> No.18240223

okay fine! keep it a western sff thread.

was there even that much eastern sff being posted? does that only apply to anime stuff? can we still discuss Three Body or Liu Cixin? (anyone read his new short story collection? I bought it but haven't started)

however please don't split it into separate sci-fi and fantasy threads - I am fairly certain we tried that years ago and neither had enough steam to keep them afloat. also it was too tricky with the genre-straddling titles

>> No.18240284

>>18240223
I’m inclined to accept Three Body Problem as it is similar western science fiction in spirit.

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>>18240223
Would rather have the entire sci-fi general die permanetly than give another place for the mentally ill faggots to keep up their anime avatar and LV posting tbqh.,

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>>18240356
Supernaturally based

>> No.18240874

>>18238177
It would make quite a big message. Maybe to pastebin. Or are you interested in some specific book?

>> No.18240904

>>18240223
Three Body can stay, but its like the black friend you never invite over to your house.

>> No.18240911

>>18240201
Caitling writes even worse than Bakker who is shit himself. Seethe more tranny, your fantasy cyclops will never fuck your ass.

>> No.18241224

>>18235898
Is Borges really considered fantasy?? I would think that even calling him proto-fantasy is being dishonest. Sci-fi mayeb???

>> No.18241369

>>18241224
Borges has called himself fantasy in the afterword of The Aleph.

>> No.18241678

>>18229686
>Adrian Tchaikovksy
>Shards of Earth
Shards of Earth isn't out yet. What he's known for is Children of Time and his Shadows of the Apt 10 book epic fantasy. Lots of good standalones, like Cage of Souls, Dawn of the Guns and so on, all highly rated and generally highly regarded.

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>>18240911
>t-tranny
While the Vorrh is revered by writers the world over, Bakker cries on his blog over some lady accurately calling his work 'children's literature'
and you will never be white

>> No.18242191

>>18240223
Eastern was never the problem. Problem was anime, hololive, web novels, manga and other stuff that are not literature.

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How do I grasp the absolute?

>> No.18242258

>>18242203
Start Resumption

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Pretty great. Liked more than the first one, Aillas/Tatzel and Shimrod/Melancthe shenanigans were pretty fun. I like how he is building the Casmir portent as the most important thing in the story since the first book.

Hope book 3 is also good.

>> No.18242320

>>18242191
>Problem
There’s none of that in /sffg/ why are you lying?

>> No.18242376

>>18242320
Sure there is. You have people talking about Battle Angel Alita and some other gooky chinkshit.

>> No.18242381

Any Gaiman fanboys here?
I've read Good Omens and American Gods and liked both, currently reading Stardust and loving it, what would you recommend next?

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>> No.18242402

>>18242376
Wow, less than five or seven post compare to the rest.

>> No.18242427

>>18242402
>There’s none of that in /sffg/ why are you lying?
>but there is some

>> No.18242445

>>18242427
>Makes claim that the other general talks nothing but eastern shit.
>it’s literally only two or three anons talking about it, which is drop in the bucket compare to the rest of the western works that’s talked about.

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>>18242381
>kneel gayman

>> No.18242472

>>18242445
I don't think anyone claimed that it's all there is. The actual chinkshit shitposting is 100% falseflagging from this general, though, like the guy who asked stupid questions and responded like a horny anime girl wanting cummy in her tummy or shit.

>> No.18242547

>>18231729
No. Aside for the bro roadtrip in the third book, the saga isn't worth reading. You skipped the best stories. All adaptations of the Last Wish and Sword of Destiny are terrible. Backtrack and read those and drop the rest.

>> No.18242595

>>18242445
>nothing but eastern shit
Fuck off animefaggot, it’s a ‘one strike and you’re out’ situation. % doesn't matter. Humouring the kind of people who read what >>18242191 describes is not done in this general at all.

Cope & rope.

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To the coomer who recommended this, tell me the truth.
You liked it because of the smutty French Maid, right? This shit is cringe. A fucking beta friendzone çûck championing for his "friend" who wants to ride other dicks except his.

>> No.18242918

>>18242320
Eat shit, transsexual.

>> No.18243191

>>18242694
What shit are you reading?

>> No.18243629

>>18242694
Does he ever fuck the girl who said she will never fuck him?