/lit/ - Literature

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>>18200129
Thx, Anon. I was looking for more bizarre, mythologically inspired Fair Folk type stuff.

Thank fuck that is an anime girl in the pic. I nearly thought that imposter was back.

Stealing this post from the last thread since it’s worthy of being reposted.

Any good fantasy or science fiction books from France, Spain, Germany, or even somewhere like the Balkans, Central Europe? What about Latin America, Middle East, and Asia? Most of the top authors just seem to come from America, UK, or Russia. Is there any hope to change that? Are there ways to get their works translated?

>>18200518
Stealing this post from the last thread since it’s worthy of being reposted.

Any good fantasy or science fiction books from France, Spain, Germany, or even somewhere like the Balkans, Central Europe? What about Latin America, Middle East, Africa, and Asia? Most of the top authors just seem to come from America, UK, or Russia. Is there any hope to change that? Are there ways to get their works translated?

What are some sci-fi books that handle communication and cultural exchange between humans and aliens well, like Vinge's novels?

>>18200933
Any Warhammer 40k novel.

>>18200909
I'm not sure if they are books but I remember that France has Valerian and the City of ten thousand planets and also the Elric franchise. Also Ankama's Wakfu/Dofus comics/tv series.
Spain probably has something too.
As for Asia, they keep pumping out sci fi and fantasy, just need to know the languages and search for what you want.

>>18200933
Culture series by Iain M. Banks.
Humanx Commonwealth by Alan Dean Foster
Old Man’s War by John Scalzi
Saga of Pliocene and the Galactic Milieu Series by Julian May
Ringworld.
Feeler Sequence by Stephen Baxter

>>18200909
Lem, Carl Chapek, Azimov are from central europe, as well as many others.

>>18200933

Culture series by Iain M. Banks.
Humanx Commonwealth by Alan Dean Foster
Old Man’s War by John Scalzi
Saga of Pliocene and the Galactic Milieu Series by Julian May
Ringworld.
Xeelee Sequence by Stephen Baxter

>>18200965
Thanks. I didn't care much of Old Man's War, but Ringworld did cross-species communication well. I'll check the others out.

>>18200982
No problem, sorry about deleting the post, fucked up on the last one. Hope you enjoy your read, anon.

>>18200958
This shit is so two dimensional and gay.

Something similar to Miéville's style? I've read Perdido Street Station, the Scar and Iron Council (I thought the last two were pretty average compared to the first).

>>18201153
Do you mean young adult or just steampunk/sci fi blend?

>>18200933
The Darkness That Comes Before

>>18201166
That’s fantasy. Stop memeing Bakker, he sucks.

>>18201162
The latter I guess

>>18201211
Pic related.

>>18201178
He doesn't suck, and the series is literally about the repercussion of aliens crashing their ship on planet and have numerous cultures are shaped by this event over several millennia. .

>>18201294
I couldn’t even get through the first few pages because the prose is so stilted and autistic. Philosophyfags can’t write.

>>18201318
I wonder why so many people here shill for him.

>>18200959
Are any of them getting translation? Or do i have to learn the language to read them?

>>18201457
Valerian and Elric are translated I think. Wakfu/Dofus have translated tv series, not sure about comics. As for Asian stuff, absolute majority is either untranslated or has MTL/fan translations.

>>18200959
>Valerian and the City of ten thousand planets
It's a comic, never read it but I watched the movie and it was terrible. France has TONS of cool sci-fi and fantasy comics imo, the problem is that they come in a pretty expensive hardcover format and issues sometimes take a long time to come out.

>>18201519
The movie might've had mediocre actors and last act, but the comic itself is a classic.

Recommend a book to someone who has never been able to get into either genre because the authors all seem to be hacks completely disinterested in the thoughts and feelings of people and whose idea of creativity amounts to "What if Batman had a teleportation device and could cast fire magic,"

>>18201561
A Fire upon the Deep
Blindsight

The former if you want adventure and wonder with strong characterization, the latter if you want something fascinating but bleak.

>>18201561
Well, what are you looking for in these books? It will help us narrow down things.

>>18201585
Thanks, I will look them up.

>>18201648
I'm simply looking for good characterization with strong emotions. I'm very much an omnivore when it comes to the entertainment that I consume, but I can't engage with fiction at all if the characters simply exist as plot devices.

>>18201678
God's War by Cameron Hurley.
The Gap series by Stephen R. Donaldson, but this is a very dark series so be warned.

>>18201561
The Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolf.

Recently I've read Mushoku Tensei. Does anyone know any other fantasy series where the protagonist spends the majority of it raising a family? I thought it would be a more common concept, but as much as I look, I'm only coming up with blanks. Preferably a series where his family doesn't end up dying.

>>18201982
Sorry if I didn't understand your request, but have you tried any of these series?

The Lightbringer series by Brent Weeks
The Books of the Raksura by Martha Wells.
Basilisk by Patricia McKillip
The Farseer trilogy but that one is dark.
The Road to Jerusalem by Jan Guillou. Originally written in Swedish, this is historical fiction rather than fantasy.

Looking for other books similar to The Hyperion Cantos & The Book of the New Sun. I've also read Malazan and liked that.

>>18202041
>Sorry if I didn't understand your request, but have you tried any of these series?
Basically just that the protagonists spends the majority of the series raising his family (having a mate, children, seeing them growing up, etc.). Preferably without that family getting killed.
I'll check out the series you recommended, which one would you say it the best?

>>18201982
>MFW when writing a web novel that’s essentially the protagonist trying to provide for his family and raising his newborn.
I can understand why there’s so few of them. Trying to balance that shit is extremely difficult and almost not worth it.

Is there any good urban fantasy out there or is it all YA trash?

>>18202089
>Trying to balance that shit is extremely difficult and almost not worth it.
I can imagine, but it's also what makes it worthwhile if done right.

>>18202094
Define good, because I could have sworn almost all Urban Fantasy is YA, save for those that are New Adult or something, which allows sex and shit.

>>18202100
I’m not denying the pay off would be worth it, but it’s just difficult to write it and at times, you wonder if it’s worth it in the end. Still though, I would read a story if it’s out there.

>>18202086
>I'll check out the series you recommended, which one would you say it the best?
I read those stories a long time ago, and I can scarcely remember them, but I think The Road to Jerusalem might be your best bet.

>>18202086
>Basically just that the protagonists spends the majority of the series raising his family (having a mate, children, seeing them growing up, etc.). Preferably without that family getting killed.
Note, that the two are not having mates, children etc, but they do have a strong family dynamic.
The 13th Paladin series, by Torsten Weitze. Translation is a bit wonky, but I think its readable.
The House in the Cerulean Sea.

>>18200933
Revelation space, though a big chunk is human variations

>>18202073
A Fire Upon the Deep by Vernor Vinge
Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe
Ilium and Olympos by Dan Simmons (of course)
Lord of Light by Roger Zelazny
Anathem by Neal Stephenson
Use of Weapons by Iain Banks

>>18202094
Dresden files is as good as it gets.

>>18202352
Thanks, I've heard about A Fire Upon the Deep before, think I'm going to try that one first.

>>18202386
No problem, good luck and happy reading, anon.

>>18200518
Do I need to be incredibly smart to read hard sci-do novels or should I stick to soft sci-fi? And If I should read hard sci-fi, should what should I read to tease myself into it?

>>18202441
In the off-chance you do decide to start reading hard sci-fi novels, I recommend, Children of Time by Adrian Tchaikovsky is definitely worth a read

Walking the stacks of my local library I stumbled upon this 900 page double columned behemoth 'Big Book of Modern Fantasy' short stories. It would take me months to get through it and this is what I'm reading on the side for fun so, any recommendations on 'must reads'? I'm sure many stories will be unfamiliar but maybe some authors jump out at you. A lot of the post 90s stories are being published in English for the first time which is cool. Library also had the companion volume of pre 1950s classic fantasy.

>>18202510
This brings up bad memories. I owned that book once until my mom decided to use it to make paper angels.

>>18202510
Mexican fairytale is actually good. I’ll start with that.

>>18202510
Ice dragon George martin. Don't let the fact that it's a child's story fool you, there's plenty of darker material

>>18200972
Asimov can't really be said to be from central Europe considering he immigrated when he was two and spent the rest of his life in Brooklyn.

>>18202631
Don't be that guy, anon. Asimov is form central Europe.

>>18202490
This would be a good one to start with, recently read it and enjoyed it. Did you read the sequels?

>>18202716
Unfortunately, I haven’t. I don’t have the time right now, but I plan to in the near future.

>>18202724
I tried reading the second book, but it didn't really grasp me. Going to keep an eye on the series to see if it develops into something, if so I'll try and pick it up again. But I also really felt that the first book stood well on its own.

>>18202763
From what my friends tell me, Tchaikovsky builds upon the foundation and ending from Children of Time to expand the universe within the series with the sequel. So I’m looking forward to reading it. Was there something you didn’t like about it?

>>18202813
The direction the story goes to wasn't what I was expecting, hoping for or felt like reading at the time. I didn't really have complaints about the quality of the writing or such, there were just a bunch of books waiting that held my interest more. If I hear about something cool from an upcoming third/fourth entry that would likely be enough of a spark to make me pick it up again.

>>18202886
You got me worried about the direction of the story, so I hope it’s just part of Tchaikovsky planned the series. But we’ll have to wait and see for the third book.

>>18202368
What about its rival, Anita Blake, Vampire Hunter.

>>18200909
It's been a really long time so I can't tell you if they are actually any good, but as a child I really enjoyed Bernhard Hennen's Die Elfen and Markus Heitz's Die Zwerge.
Wolfgang Hohlbein is also fairly well-known but I never really got into his books.
And, of course, if you want some real literature, you could always just read ETA Hoffmann, Eichendorff, Fouqué, etc.

>your protag isn’t a transmigrated 1000 year old virgin with a gold finger and invincible combat strength

Imagine reading western literature

Listening to this on audiobook after last reading it twenty years ago, and somehow I'd forgotten that the MCs are complete assholes.

>>18202971
>MCs are complete assholes.
How?

>>18202971
After rereading it last year I switched to rereading Dragonsong and Dragonsinger instead, I liked them a lot more

>>18202510
I recognize a lot of the authors, but can't say I've read any of those stories. Neat to see a collection that gathers people like Nix and Pratchett with Borges and Murakami, though. Not to mention Nabokov.

>>18202965
why would you read chinkoid copy paste ``literature'' when you could read superior manga or VNs

>>18200933
C.j. Cherryh's foreigner series
Sunriver by David Brin

Any good coming of age + a bit of romance recommendations? Haven't really kept up with Fantasy in the past few years

>>18203195
Codex Alera by Jim Butcher—probably my gold standard for romantic sub-plot in fantasy done right and is everything you’re asking for.

Shadow Campaigns by Django Wexler—excellent series from start to finish, but the romance is a slower burn and doesn’t really begin until the second book—and by begin I mean the characters meet for the first time.

>>18203195
doubt you have missed anything

>>18203243
Will give them a shot, thanks anon

>>18203247
Don't make me sad like that

>>18202996
Do they still hold up or no?

>>18203134
Recommend some that are fantasy or science fiction.

Are they’re any Sci-Fi military books that look at sea fairing naval forces??

I’ve seen loads that explore space warface and land based war but why is the old fashioned navy always left out? Double so for what I think is the ultimate weapon against any invading extraterrestrial force, the submarine.

Why no Hunt for Red October, Gene stealer cult edition.

>>18203540
muv-luv is eventuallyscience fiction

>>18203589
Have you tried reading The Lost Fleet series by Jack Campbell/John G. Hemry.

Or Walter Jon Williams' Dread Empire's Fall series

>>18203600
Where can I buy it

>>18203638
steam, it's even on sale right now. be aware that the first game is rom-com but is fully essential to the overarching narrative

>>18203648
ah no, apparently the sale is over. sorry

>>18203605
I haven’t seen them, I’ll give them a look see. Ty

>>18202971
When we first meet Lessa, she's been ruining Ruath Hold to fuck with Fax -- but in the process, she's been getting a lot of innocent people abused or killed, like we see that she ruined the cloth production and the cloth guy gets beaten because of it. During hatching, when the female candidates SEE A BUNCH OF DRAGONS MAUL KIDS TO DEATH, she thinks "man these are some dumb bitches, I am so cool and composed." After she becomes Weyrwoman, she's a bitch to F'nor's mom when she acknowledges that F'nor's mom is basically an angel who is only trying to help her. She routinely mind-controls people. And she straight-up never has a pleasant conversation with anyone, she's always being snide or confrontational. To a certain extent this can be attributed to the trauma of her family dying and spending ten years hiding, but on the whole she's just a bitch. Two-thirds through the book, she's a shamelessly manipulative bitch who hasn't had a single positive interaction with any human character.

And F'lar. First, in terms of day-to-day demeanor he also never has a pleasant conversation with anyone, he's usually deliberately trying to get them off-guard to fuck with them. He's even a dick to his own brother over perceived minor slights. He's supposed to be a slightly caustic, slightly hardass paragon of self-discipline and drive, but he comes across as just smug and unpleasant.
Second, he's also a huge dick about muh Weyr honor and muh traditional entitlements. At the start of the book, there hasn't been Thread in four-hundred years -- Benden Weyr has been mooching pointlessly for four centuries, and it's completely understandable that the Holds don't want to give the Weyrs their best stuff (not to mention resisting the Weyrs coming through every years and taking the hottest chicks to Impress queens, with a one-in-ten chance of getting fucking mauled by a baby dragon). Instead of going "Wow, we should be reasonably accommodating, or earn our keep as aerial taxis or whatever," he just persists in MUH TRADITIONAL ENTITLEMENTS. From outside the narrative he's rightous and makes sense, because we know Thread is coming back, but in-universe he's a bullying mooch. Third, he keeps shaking and slapping Lessa. Also he fucking her even after the mating flight, has narration expressly recognizing "man when the dragons aren't involved it's basically rape," and instead of going "maybe I should stop fucking her?" goes "I know I'm good at sex why is she not into it." inb4 /lit/ calls this based, but this would never fly from a protagonist in modern fiction.

I know that this was probably novel and interesting characterization in the late 60s/early 70s when Dragonflight was published as a short story/novella/book, but fifty years later Lessa and F'lar just come across as deeply unpleasant people.

>>18203770
Despite all that, it's a really solid book. It takes a classic, emotionally resonant core story of "bastion against an ancient menace struggles against irrelevancy, then struggles against the ancient menace coming back," and executes it pretty well. Honestly all you would have to do to publish this today is add a little nuance to the characters and recognize that F'lar and Lessa are flawed and shitty, maybe get a little more realistic with the Weyr-Hold politics (pissed-off holders should be throwing spears at dragons after F'lar's wife-stealing stunt), and either skip or lean into the psychic dragon sex stuff.

Overall, it held up better than I expected, to the point that I'm surprised no one optioned it for television during GOT's heyday. I guess dragons are too expensive to animate.

>>18203770
>>18203804
Fuck, I meant both of these for >>18202991.

>>18202996
Those are the YA novels with the Harper girl who Impresses a whole clutch of fire lizard eggs, right? I wanted fire lizard pets so bad when I was a kid.

>>18203770
>>18203804
Sounds like the characters are sociopaths.

>>18203589
Space combat is way different than naval combat. In Space, the commander has to utilize 3d space, whereas naval commanders don't. It's why space opera who have their space combat as an analogue as naval one is just plain unrealistic and insane.

>>18203423
Dragonsinger holds up as Comfy even tho Menolly comes across as more clueless than when I read it in junior high.
Dragonsong is full of suffering which I'm not a fan of but it's short and feels like a long prologue to Dragonsinger.
(I haven't reread Dragondrums yet.)

>>18204117
Would you recommend this to children?

>>18203600
>it's get really good after 2 games and 60 hours I swear bro
no thanks

>>18201318
esl kek

Are there any books like picrel that have apathetic, overpowered protagonists?

someone recommended King's Dark Tidings but I want something with an asian protagonist

>>18204356
Several, power fantasies are blowing up now.

>>18204273
it gets "good" in unlimited already and honestly extra is pretty decent comedy, funnier than most other Japanese attempts at it

>>18204356
>gook shit
absolute state of this place

>>18204586
are you upset plebbitor? 4chan is an anime website so all boards and threads have an implicit /anime attached to it

So /lit/ is actually literature/anime and /sffg/ is actually /sffag/ (science fiction, fantasy, and anime general)

>>18204586
I'm working through all the best tower climbing novels, and some will inevitably be Korean. I'd place Suicide Hunter on the same level as Garth Nix's series at least

>>18204555
What by makes them different?

>>18204213
Yes, especially if they like music and/or pets.

>>18204733
Careful, anon, don't be such a radical.

>>18203589
That's most of them.

>>18204356
Kingkiller Chronicles. The main character doesn't start overpowered, but he's an uber genius who can pick up literally anything with ease, from science, to math, to womanizing, to martial arts to magic to medicine and so on.

Mother of Learning, but he doesn't the main character doesn't start overpowered, he is apathetic.

Almost any Roger Zelazny novel has you covered, he loved dealing with super-powerful protagonists.

Fuck all of you, I liked it.

>>18205755
This book was well written and I can see why it's popular, and I even found myself liking it as well, but honestly I feel like the copycats of other novels that try to cash in its popularity ruined it for me, since it burned me out of the whole concept.

Nonetheless, its a good novel.

>>18205777
>but honestly I feel like the copycats of other novels that try to cash in its popularity ruined it for me, since it burned me out of the whole concept.
That's what my friends said when I tried to get them in the Twilight Zone.
It was so influential that you can see how later works borrowed from it.

But I was more referring to the people who think I'm a fascist because I enjoyed a novel.

>>18205806
Never understood the fascist angle. The concept of equality is thrown in the trashcan, yes, but Heinlein tries to put something different in it's place. A Merit based Citizenship. But I supposed it had something to do with the Movie, since whoever made it, hated the novel and by extension, the author.

>>18205846
>since whoever made it,
Verhoeven flat out side he couldn't finish the book.
But people have been accusing it of being fascist since it came out.

>>18205853
>But people have been accusing it of being fascist since it came out.
That's just plain stupid, the book thrust the reader into a world filled with historical references and deep thoughts about society, politics, and leadership. How does that make it fascist? Is it the militarism?

>>18205886
Pretty much. Complete failure to actually understand government systems.
These people couldn't give you anything more than the most basal look into fascism or communism or democracy.

>>18205755
A big problem these days is that most people's first intro to Heinlein is through the tinted lens of the movie adaptation which basically spoonfeeds you a lobotomized and satirized interpretation. People should experience Heinlein in all his earnest sincerity and form their own opinions, whether they agree with him or not.

But at the same time, the book should not be read by high schoolers or anyone too young to have developed the mental maturity and immunity required to navigate Heinlein's subversive jingoism because he comes off as very reasonable at first glance for all the wrong reasons.


Also Heinlein was only 80% right. In an ideal society the franchise shouldn't be given to soldiers who are more like mindless worker bees out for blood and glory. Do you really think dome-sniper Chris Kyle was out to defend his country or just there for an excuse satiate his psychopathic bloodlust? There's no way to sift the patriotic wheat from the chaff of psychopaths and societal misfits in the army.

Instead it should given to people who've had no children and are willing to voluntarily castrate themselves in exchange for suffrage and the right to hold political office.That way they have proven with blood that they have transcended beyond the evolutionary imperatives nature has placed upon the individual and can therefore act for the good of the species. All the most stable societies in history were run by eunuchs behind the scenes. So yes, in other words the denizens of /sffg/ would make perfect voters and politicians

>>18205917
Cringe anti natalist

>>18205916
Honestly, I think it would be best if you just ignore those people, feels like they're more likely to drag you down. And that's not to mentioned their intelligence.

>>18205806
>But I was more referring to the people who think I'm a fascist because I enjoyed a novel.
One of the biggest lies that is still continued about this book is the lie of citizenship, and therefore the right to vote and hold public office, is dependent on military service. On reading the book, unlike Paul Verhoeven before he made the film, you will find that military service is but one way to attain citizenship. The term used - veterans - applies to all those who have completed some term of public service. The State is obliged to find you some form of service to attain that. So the truth is: Teachers can be citizens. Emergency services can be citizens. Even road sweeping and medical drugs testing can be routes to citizenship. There is no discrimination by way of race, religion, gender or physical ability. If you want to become a citizen, the State will find some role for you to play. Military service is only one way, albeit usually the fastest. The requirement is a single tour on the frontlines. If you survive, and manage to retire, you can vote. Lawyers, businessmen and entertainers cannot. They have no power to set tax laws and exemptions to benefit themselves. Capitalism exists. You can become rich and famous if you so choose. But unless you put yourself at the service of the State, you will have less power than any voter.

And those are the people screaming 'Fascist!'

>>18204356
So you want light novels or web novels?

>>18205917
>All the most stable societies in history were run by eunuchs behind the scenes.
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

>>18204070
illiterate retard

>>18205806
Wtf is Heinlein even? In Moon is a Harsh Mistress, the moon is some kind of anarchistic society dominated by matriarchal polygamous families or some shit like that, and they're attacked by fascistic UN assault troops

>>18206212
A right-libertarian, anon.

>>18206223
Then why do so many call him a fascist?

>>18206259
Retards who refuse sec-discipline and wants things handed things to them.

>>18206259
They confuse the book and the movie. The book was mostly about a cadet's life and how only people that know the price of war deserve the right to vote. Because that way the nation will have a lot of people actively defending what they hold dear and they wont support attacking other countries because they'd know that war might come to their homes.
The movie was about an army of blond blue eyed soldiers thrown at another sentient race, with no ground armor for maximum casualties, for what might be a false flag. And telepathic intelligence offcers in gray uniforms for that thought police hint.

>>18206431
>The movie was about an army of blond blue eyed soldiers thrown at another sentient race, with no ground armor for maximum casualties, for what might be a false flag. And telepathic intelligence offcers in gray uniforms for that thought police hint.
Verhoeven ruin the book for every normie for his stupidity in trying to invoke Nazi imagery.

>>18206431
>They confuse the book and the movie. The book was mostly about a cadet's life
Full of descriptions of military life and routines, it reads more like a dreary personal diary than a science fiction book. There are only 2 chapters of interest, at the very beginning and the end, while the entire middle section of the book is of little interest.

>>18204607
And people wonder why the general split.

>>18206531
Because retards like you wanted to flood the board with a dead General in which the OP stated in his thread kept it alive because no one was using it?

>>18206259
I would guess that it's mostly because nobody knows what fascism is. It's just the go to word to describe what the speaker believes is monstrous right wing politics, same way socialism gets broadly bandied about as any sort of destructive left wing politics

>>18206540
I'm fucking baffled by this. I have no interest in reading chinese novels and I'm not even entirely sure wtf cultivation is. I also don't even remember the last time I watched anime and have only read a select few mangas in my entire life. But when anons are discussing this shit, I just skip it and go for the posts that interest me, I don't sperg out and create a new thread AND then keep shitting the former thread while also posting in the new one literally shaking and crying like a little fag because people aren't following me in my autistic bicthfit.
>>18201968

>>18206552
I think the strongest critique the book has for it is the glorification of the military, in which many people described as propaganda and likened to recruitment. And that isn't to say the ideology of militarism and the fact that only military veterans had the right to vote in the novel's fictional society led many to erroneously described the book and by extension, the author, as fascist.

>>18206035
>Lawyers, businessmen and entertainers cannot.
Ohhh, now I see why it was called fascist, kek. Kind of on the nose, as it were.

>>18206594
Sorry, anon. Just tired of that autist trying to shit up this thread. Guy created his personal safe space and should fuck off, but instead he comes here still to try and start shit. And if that’s really the Op in the post you link then it’s even more pathetic than I realize.

>>18206594
Don't forget that he also comes here to shill his autistic bitchfit as well.
>>18200177

>>18206259
it's what leftists do

>>18203770
>but in the process, she's been getting a lot of innocent people abused or killed, like we see that she ruined the cloth production and the cloth guy gets beaten because of it. During hatching, when the female candidates SEE A BUNCH OF DRAGONS MAUL KIDS TO DEATH, she thinks "man these are some dumb bitches, I am so cool and composed." After she becomes Weyrwoman, she's a bitch to F'nor's mom when she acknowledges that F'nor's mom is basically an angel who is only trying to help her. She routinely mind-controls people. And she straight-up never has a pleasant conversation with anyone, she's always being snide or confrontational.
They don’t make protagonists like they used to anymore. This shit would never get pass today.

>>18206594
>I’m not even entirely sure wtf cultivation is.
The fictional cultivation practiced in xianxia is heavily based on the real-life meditation practice qigong. The stories usually include elements such as gods, immortals, yaoguai, ghosts, monsters, magical treasures, immortal items, medicinal pills, and the like.

>>18206982
>The stories usually include elements such as gods, immortals, yaoguai, ghosts, monsters, magical treasures, immortal items, medicinal pills, and the like.
So, its just fantasy with a different name?

Grimpow: The Invisible Road

>Ábalos blends the grand-scale storytelling prowess and epic quest element of Tolkien’s Lord of the Rings with the cryptographic intrigue of Dan Brown’s The Da Vinci Code.

Should I bother with this?

>>18206998
Well, it's based on self improvement, both physical and spiritual, to ridiculous levels. And usually mythologized in the same way as social hierarchy and philosophy are.

An emperor's heir might become the Ruler of Celestial Realm, with divine powers granted by heritage. A potion maker might grow enough to understand the creation enough to make immortality or other medicine. etc.

I want to thank all the animebros for having my back against these bullies.
When I first came to this board people were recommending me books like the ones here https://www.npr.org/2011/08/11/139085843/your-picks-top-100-science-fiction-fantasy-books
I tried some but couldn't make it past 10 pages because it was beyond my reading level and the lack of harems and video game mechanics meant they were incredibly boring.

Now I know there's nothing wrong with my reading level and it's just that pretentious douchebags here like to recommend authors like Bakker and Gene Wolfe because they think it makes them look smart.

So fuck you elitist gate keepers. Litrpg, xianxia, manga, webnovels, and lightnovels are all here to stay and there's nothing you can do about it.

>>18207130
Please get a tripcode

>>18207130
Imaging thinking reading Bakker makes you seem smart. Peak midwittery.

>>18207174
Anon, just read what he says, why else would /wsffg/ shill for him.

https://rsbakker.wordpress.com/essay-archive/the-future-of-literature-in-the-age-of-information/
>This means all the old and largely unfounded prejudices against genre fiction must be set aside. Genre only seems antithetical to ‘literature’ because the literary have turned it into a flattering foil, abandoned it, in effect, leaving a rhetorical fog of self-congratulation in their wake. In my own case, I chose epic fantasy because I knew the best way to provoke readers with a narrative meditation on the nature and consequences of belief was to reach actual believers. And provoke I did. Other writers, like China Mieville, M. John Harrison, Gene Wolfe, John Crowley, to name just a few, are doing the same thing, producing work that is obviously literary, openly provocative, yet unheard of in literary circles for the simple sin of wearing wrong generic skin. These are the writers who are genuinely shaking things up, as opposed to hawking intellectual and aesthetic buzzes inside the literary echo chamber.

>>18207181
Yeah too hard to understand for me. Can you compile an english to english machine translation for me, commission some anime style art to go along with each paragraph, and then self publish it and link me the goodreads?

Or better yet, can you make a tower, and put one sentence on each level? That would really provide the necessary motivation to finish.

Is this the thread for anime discussion?

>>18207208
No you have /a/ for that, a whole board dedicated to anime. You should check it out.
>>>/a/

>>18207208
No, this is the thread that discusses science fiction and fantasy from authors all around the world, without it being limited or reductive.

>>18207217
I was told that this specifically was the thread for anime discussion, so you won't trick me.

>>18207220
Jesus Christ, you're the most butthurt faggot I've ever seen

>>18207225
Go easy on the poor lad, his thread is dead ands its only kept aloft by necrobumping via inane questions or 1 sentence posts

>>18207243
>>18207225
Maybe once you've stopped samefagging to up your thread count, you'd realize this thread has been up for 26 hours with 147 posts, while the other has been up for around 27.5 hours with 131 posts. That's nowhere near 'dead', especially considering you made like 30 posts falseflagging and then replying to yourself to make it seem like there's some kind of conspiracy to kick out the weebs.

>>18207260
Aren’t you that schizo that keeps insisting that everyone here is just one guy? You should really take your meds.

>>18207260
>made like 30 posts falseflagging and then replying to yourself to make it seem like there's some kind of conspiracy to kick out the weebs.
Is this what you've been doing? You're a schizoid, and not in the meme sense.

>>18207260
>/sffg/ split because of an actual schizophrenic
It's going to take a while to get over this one.

>>18207243
>>18207225
>>18207208
>>18207130

>42 unique posters in /sffg/
>47 unique posters in /wsffg/
Nice try moron

But keep up these blatantly fake multi-level falseflagging posts where you pretend to be an anime-hater that's also pretending to be a weeaboo just so you can reply to yourself and bump your shitty thread. Nobody here hates anime. Get over your anime-oppression complex idiot.

any sff but about comfy, SOL between characters?

>>18207273
>>18207280
>>18207130
>>18207170
>>18207208
>>18207217

>guy A: OMG I LOVE FUCK THESE HATERS
>samefag replying to guy A: GET THE FUCK OUT EUROPEAN SCIFI ONLY
>samefag replying to samefag: YOU SEE HOW STUPID THESE GATEKEEPERS ARE?

Nobody buys your tricks shill.

>>18207297
I would suggest you look into L.E. Modesitt Jr.
Most of his books are taken up with the simple facts of day to day life, learning trades, acquiring skills, travel. And then he bolts on a larger plot, which occasionally intersects.

Alternatively for a pure slice of life, try an older story, Jack Finney's Time and Again, a time travel fantasy based in 1980s and 1880s New York.

>>18207296
>>18207305
Literal psychotic meltdown

Any SFF novels with trap mommies?

>>18207225
>>18207243
Aren’t you that schizo that keeps insisting that everyone here is just one guy? You should really take your meds.

>>18207280
>>18207273
>>18207272
>consecutive posts written in the ESL style all using the word 'schizo'

You're really bad at this samefagging business aren't you?

>>18207305
>>18207311
>>18207273
>>18207280
>schizo is mad we called him out on his falseflagging

>>18207321
>>18207319
>>18207317
>>18207311
>>18207310
>>18207309
>>18207305
>>18207297
>>18207296
>>18207280
>>18207273
>>18207260
>>18207243
>>18207225
>>18207220
>>18207219
>>18207217
>>18207208
>>18207199
>WAAAAH WHY CAN'T YOU ALL DISCUSS DEAD WHITE MALE SCIFI LIKE THE GOOD OLD DAYS

You're pathetic

>>18207321
>>18207327
Please don't respond to my post unless you have a serious recommendation for a novel with trap mommies in it, thank you.

>>18207310
Why does he still come here? That’s the more important question.

>>18207362
because /a/ doesn't accept light novels/webnovels so he has no recourse but to shit up our thread

Imagine being so upset that someone had the nerve to post a scifi light novel on a scifi thread of all places just because -*gasp* it has an ANIME character on the cover somebody think of the children!- that you spend an hour fighting over some imaginary enemy that you created.
Kill yourself.

>>18207362

Imagine being so upset that someone had the nerve to post a scifi light novel on a scifi thread of all places just because -*gasp* it has an ANIME character on the cover somebody think of the children!- that you spend an hour fighting over some imaginary enemy that you created.
Kill yourself.

>>18207380
I’m not upset about scifi light novels being posted here. I’ve been supportive of having foreign novels of all manners posted here, on /sffg/. I’m just asking why the person who left and created /wsffg/, assuming it’s him, keeps coming here.

>>18207130
only an animefag would use the word 'bullies' in an online context unironically lmao

I can't believe there's half a dozen video game boards but none for light novels so we're forced to share a thread with these xenophobic and transphobic idiots. So what if there are anime pictures interspersed throughout and the writing style is simple? Does that make it any less of a book? I'm slightly autistic and have trouble visualizing things without aid and these books have been a life saver.

>>18207406
>unironically using xenophobic and transphobic on 4chan

>>18207130
Imagine having reading level of 8 year old and posting generals in /lit/.

This is the literal state of /sffg/ currently. Your OPs are carbon copies of each other, each having slightly different vague and hololive inspired topic coupled with a anime picture.
You don’t improve /sffg/ in any way, you don’t produce data or content. You don’t give good recommendations. Your thread topics only serve to give you a reason to post some hololive fanart.

Reminder that there is a separate board for the anime enthusiasts /a/ and board for children’s picture books /co/. With your reading level I suggest you watch Harry Potter movies but then again it might be above your comprehension.
I see unironical posting in these threads as a commendation to OP’s way of perceiving literature.
At least /wsffg/ has actually thread topics that serve a purpose and produce information.

>>18207411
>At least /wsffg/ has actually thread topics that serve a purpose and produce information.
A dead general that even its creator admits to necrobumping it because no one uses it like this anon said.
>>18206594

>>18207406
>xenophobic and transphobic idiots
>I'm slightly autistic and have trouble visualizing things without aid
I can't tell if this post is bait.

>>18207391
>I’ve been supportive of having foreign novels

It's not about foreign novels. I'm perfectly fine with Three Body Problem and the like. The guy who made the other thread probably said 'european authors only' partly out of spite and partly out laziness and threw out the baby with the bathwater. What I don't want is importing the manchild demographic from /a/ over here. /sffg/ is having its own Sad Puppies moment and the backslash is the immune system killing everything indiscriminately/

I've said this before: the anime types don't simply don't care about the written word as a medium. This is why there's entire English communities built around reading google translated chapters of amateur written Japanese and Korean webnovels, half of which don't even have editors attached. This is the community you are graciously opening your doors to under the flag of diversity.

>>18207423
So what if a thread dies naturally? If I were the /wsffg/ OP I’d make a new thread. I guess he said he will stop necrobumping but as we already saw earlier in this thread, this thread is constantly necrobumped with continuous samefagging and false flagging.

>>18207406
The only thing worth than a tranny is a tranny iimmigrant.

>>18207423
Hey retard, this isn't reddit where people can background check anyone they don't agree with. You realize anybody can say "OP here" here right?

OP here, I'm trans btw

>>18207429
What would be a clear and unambiguous way of laying out thread rules to keep out the manga reading hordes?

>>18207429
This thread was doing fine before getting derailed. Stop having a victim complex.

>>18207429
You're exaggerating anon. Just like everything else, people will talk about good novels, chinkshit or not. There are buttload of mom fantasy novels out there but you don't see anyone talking about it here do you. Unironically why do you even labels ALL of the translated works as being bad, that's just being ignorant.

>>18207436
>>18207411
See this is what I'm talking about. You can tell by the over the top language that this guy is clearly a bad actor weeaboo pretending to be an /sffg/ gatekeeper to give the rest of us anime-agnostic types a bad name so he can legitimize the existence of anime on this board. Fuck off weebs

No one here anyone knows who is derailing who and I love it. Fuck these anime threads.

>>18207457
>anime website
>complaining about anime

>>18207446
> Stop having a victim complex.

The ones with the victim complex are the ones pretending to hate anime in an over-the-top fashion so he can play pretend being persecuted by racists.

We don't hate Asian literature.
It's funny how weebs are playing the victim card when 99% of them have never read a Murakami novel or watched an Ozu film, because the requisite attention span is just too high compared to anime.

>>18207460
I think one should be able to read more than 10 pages in order to post in /lit/

>go to /lit/
they said

>it's the serious board for engaging intellectual discussions
they said

>animeposters

>>18207457
we are here to stay, anime and manga are as much sff literature as Tolkien is
the picture enhance the story to a completely another level

>>18207449
>ALL of the translated works as being bad, that's just being ignorant.

Did you read what I said? It's not "TRANSLATED" by a person, not even an uneducated person. It's MACHINE TRANSLATED. And it's a machine translated version of a bad source material to begin with. And weebs put up with it because they care about 'muh mechanics' and 'muh worldbuilding' and 'muh wishfulfillment'.

Imagine the following scenario. Frank Herbert dies. His son dies. His 16 year old grandson's neighbor picks it up and writes a fanfiction continuation where Paul Atreides gets hit by a truck and gets a do-over of fixing the empire. Except this time he has a cheat ability and levels up every time he kills 20 people!. And then you Google translate that to Japanese.

Do you think any self respecting Japanese scifi fan would read that garbage? Well you'd be fucking surprised because that's what the English lightnovel/webnovel community is.

>>18207460
>We don't hate Asian literature.
>let’s restrict it to to just west Europe and America.
This thread was doing fine, the previous thread was alright and the one before that. Again, stop having such a victim complex and let people here discuss stories they want to discuss without it being reductive due to your autism.

>>18207474
Books are too long and boring. For me hololive is much more entertaining that reading mere words. And machine translations are quite good these days.

>>18207457
It's /lit's/ autoimmune response. You can't kill cancer if you can't tell which cells are cancerous.

>>18207480
I didn't make that thread. I don't think it's the right decision or even a necessary one. Stop pretending like everyone who doesn't agree with you is the same person.

Again, stop samefagging. Stop false flagging. And stop giving people who watch anime a bad name.

>>18207482
>>18207480
>>18207474
>>18207458
Imagine being this retarded. They complain that normal sffg chads are being reductive when they themselves only read machine translated comic books. Consider reading a book for once.

Is Reverend Insanity the peak of Xianxia?

I tried reading some other chink and nip novels, Warlock of the Magus world, Mushoku Tensei etc.
They don't hold up at all when you've already read RI.

>>18207482
>>18207495
>>18207474
>>18207458
You can tell this is the guy from /a/. This is what he does. Pretend to be us, but with an extremely bad faith caricature, so he can continue justifying his victim complex.

Nobody's out to get you dumb weeb. Just stop avatarfagging and we'll leave you alone.

>>18207490
>stop giving people who watch anime a bad name
Like the anime retards aren’t doing that themselves.
>I literally can’t read more than 10 pages
>I will still post in board dedicated to literature

>>18207499
I fucking hate gweilous.

Have you read even any Louis Cha? Or Gulong? Or do you just go for the easily accessible YA stuff made for the ADHD zoomers?

>>18206594
It's all newfaggotry. /sffg/ has existed for years without this nonsense, without a thread split, and without outright dying but this has also been the worst I've seen it (for ex: this and when it's nothing but 300 posts of Bakker/Sanderson) but it's also been growing worse and worse over the last few years too. Like any board, and the entire site, we're in a state of permanent ruination due to newfags being unable to keep their hands off everything.

>>18207499
There is really no reason to read Xianxia other than trying to be special chinkshit reading snowflake.

>Is Reverend Insanity the peak of Xianxia?
Probably. But winning the special olympics is still kinda cringe.

>>18207504
lmao

>>18207501
That /a/ guy is extremely sad case

>>18207517
Bakker/Sanderson war was glorious.

>>18207528
It was shit.

>>18207530
You forgot your anime avatar.

>>18207517
>/sffg/ has existed for years without this nonsense

Because for years /a/ kept to themselves. What changed is that Japan stumbled upon the magical isekai formula, which lead to the rebirth fad, which lead to an entire genre of gamification and the invention of the NEET self-insert mary sue Hero. It's the perfect storm that appeals to both the unemployed otaku and the fortnite generation and it's not a fad that'll go away any time soon like the magical schoolgirl decade that anime had to suffer through.

Why would it go away? The manchild is literally given a second chance at life and this time he can get back at anyone who wronged him, with the ease of being on your second play through of an already beaten RPG on easy mode.
And it's all given to you in a bite-sized, super accessible form with no big words or philosophical mumbojumbo or boring character development. There's nothing in there about the human condition to take away from the fast paced plot.

>>18207513
They have written a lot of books which one should I read? Is there a magnum opus?

>>18207548
This post needs to be saved. Absolutely based.

>>18207549
Smiling Proud Wanderer
Condor trilogy
Demi-gods and Semi-Devils

it's wuxia not xianxia though. All of Louis Cha's works have tv adaptions, too many if you ask me. In fact every 5 years either Hong Kong or some mainland company will make a fancy reboot. There's probably half a dozen adaptations of the Condor trilogy.

>>18207549
No.
Stop falseflagging that there is an actual real discussion in this thread. Literally only one guy in sffg reads chinkshit.

>>18207479
>Slogging through Dune because /lit/ said it was good
>finally a love interest
>This chani girl seems like tsundere at first but isn't.
>keep reading and realize she doesn't even fit into any of my *dere tropes

Wtf I'm so confused. People are...difficult.

Ok, fuck you bullies. You win. I'm done. Happy?

I'm packing up and taking my friends to the Hegel threads. Maybe the guys there will be more accommodating to people with different tastes and reading levels unlike you closeminded assholes.

>>18207517
I think this might be mostly Bakkerfags, because we know that some of them are mentally ill and have said so in previous generals, and if anyone interrupts their spamming barrage of poorly drawn fanart or mildly criticize them they used to go fucking apeshit, and lately people are getting tired with their faggotry.

>>18207575
I hope this is a real post because I am trying really hard to imagine Hegelian anime shitposting.

>>18207586
>might
It's definitely them.

Imagine going to the local library and sign up for the reading group consisting of normal 9-5 working adults who enjoy fiction literature.
>Hello everybody, I thought we could read this magna I brought
<Is that a comic book? This is a reading group anon
>No no you have misunderstood, anime is part of literature and we shouldnt be so reductive
<We are not going to read the comic book anon
>*Proceeds to run away crying*

>>18207600
Fucking hell, you really are the whiniest faggot.

>>18207618
sneed and seethe

Listen, I'm not an elitist bigot or gatekeeper like the other guys here. We were all teenagers one time or another. So I'll offer the weebs an olive branch.
You guys are allowed to stay as long as you make an effort to scratch at least one book off the /sffg/ canon every month. My standards aren't super high so this casual NPR chart will do. Remember, I'm not here to get you a PhD in English lit. I'm just trying to get you guys accustomed to reading something that's not anime or video game inspired. During this time you may consume whatever other pieces of Japanese culture you want. As long as you keep up the effort that's fine with me.
If you have continue to do so then after one year I will offer you a path to /lit/izenship. But remember, you will always be naturalized /lit/izen and not a natural born one so you won't be allowed to post thread starters.

>>18207618
Imagine trying to get a literature degree and the professors laugh you out of the establishment for trying to tell everyone that anime and manga are just as much literature as Dostoyevsky and other classics.
The real world doesn't agree with your nonsense. Tbh you would never enter literature school because you can't fucking read.

>>18207630
>NPR chart
>/lit/zenship
And then you have this other newfag shit that stands out on its own.

/ssfg/ opinion on HxH? It gets pretty good at the yorknew arv and afterwards

>>18207648
>HxH
that is manga, and not real literature
>>>/co/ and >>>/a/ are your home

>>18207634
So people reading different things really bothers you.

>>18207665
What you call reading is not reading.

>>18204607
chink and gook shit are not anime related you fucking mong

>>18207663
this is the anime general please go to /wsffg/

>>18207673
You heard it here first lads. Time to go to >>18200057 for real literature

>>18207679
>jap power fantasy bad!
>euro power fantasy good!

>>18207634
>trying to tell everyone that anime and manga are just as much literature as Dostoyevsky and other classics.
not him, but /wsffg/ is just as bad, trying to pass stuff like Bakker off as literature.

>>18207684
>>18207687
b8

>>18207679
>False flagging this hard

>>18207634
Yeah because lit professors are totally praising the fantasy garbage you read like they praise dostoyevsky

>>18207699
What can I say? There are people in this thread that literally can't read real books.

>/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc.
>/a/ - Anime & Manga
>/vt/ This board is for the discussion of Virtual YouTubers ("VTubers"), including those streaming in Japanese, English, and other languages. VTubers don't necessarily need to be on Youtube of course, they can be on Twitch, Niconico, Bilibili, or any other platform.
>/co/ - Comics & Cartoons

>>18207708
Yeah, I also like the fact that this thread was doing fine until that post and then you fags show up and derail it even further. Nothing suspicious to see

>>18207717
Imagine telling in /lit/ that you can't read and would rather watch cartoons and wonder why no one takes you or your thread seriously.

>>18207692
seething bakkernigger

>>18207708
thats obvious bait you retard

>>18207739
He knows, he's probably the one who posted it

>>18207648
Hunter x Hunter is unironically /lit/

>>18207665
calling weebshit 'reading' is what philosophers call a category error

>>18207684
jap fantasy still hasn't evolved beyond the 'beautiful, lithe archer elf/stocky axe wielding dwarf' cliches introduced by Tolkien more than half a century ago. The only difference is they sexualized everything because the demographic is composed of thirsty virgins. No seriously, what trope has Japan added to Tolkien lore other than 'orcs rape elves' (which arguably already happened to Celebrian off screen). It's not just that there's cliches in jap fantasy. It's that they seem to relish in it. Like there's bonus points for using stock character templates and conforming exactly to every other anime show.

Oh and this is from 3 different isekai shows by the way.

/tv/ here. Will what happened to /lit/ happen to us one day?

>>18207760
/tv/ isnt overran by /a/ yet?

>>18207752
>Hunter x Hunter is unironically /lit/
Based
>isekai
That's the problem. It's oversaturated garbage. Although fags here have gone the complete opposite direction and don't want quality lit if it's jap shit

>>18207752
>Tolkien
You mean Dragon Quest which takes a lot of inspiration from Momotaro.

>>18207721
Not the one who wrote it, but you already knew that, considering what happened soon after.

>>18207752
Oh and by unironically I mean ironically

>>18207766
its overrun by /co/

>>18207790
Western animated tv series are still being made? I thought they had only old endless sitcoms.

>>18207777
If I read Bakker correctly he is talking about the coastal literary establishment and he is defending genre fiction literature.
And if I understood correctly, some people here then claim same genre fiction to be hte literature.
Just saying Bakker probably didn't mean to be as inclusive in literature as someone would think.

>>18207778
>fan translations

>>18207752
All of 4chan is thirsty virgins

>>18207803
I don't care about Bakker

Currently reading this which has been a good read so far.

Takes what's pretty much a comedy premise (what if two brothers who hate each other accidentally killed two of the most important people on the continent) and plays it completely straight and serious.
I liked Red Wolf Conspiracy by the author but the final act put me off reading the sequels and this is already better in my estimation.

>>18207778
>mangas have no text its not even reading!
>oh my god this manga has text walls kek what garbage
Which one is it faggot?

Honestly those hating on anime should read picrel. The protagonist fights vampires for the entire book before realizing that in the end he is the vampire because humanity (so called 'weebs') has evolved and moved on while he was left behind because he couldn't let go of the old ways (western scifi/fantasy) and refused to acknowledge the changes around him.

It's kind of like Thomas Kuhn's Structures of Scientific Revolutions applied to literature. Scifi and fantasy are both undergoing a paradigm shift right now. Anime and video game exhibit a global appeal that make them an ideal backdrop for today's youth and older works simply can't compete. Today's teenagers are tomorrow's college graduates. These are the guys who will inherit /sffg/ after you're too old to move out of your rockers so it's understandable that they get to define the new standard.

tl;dr Either get on board or get jettisoned like yesterday's trash.

>>18207886
Why do that when they can just derail the threads?

>>18207878
also quit trying to be annoying snobs in the fucking fantasy and scifi thread lmao

>>18207821
reminder tolkien would NEVER have celebrian be raped. Please delete this LoTR is a catholic series.

>>18207309
Is there a proper reading order? I'm like 30 pages into Imager trilogy since that's chronologically earlier.

>>18207886
>I like anime
>I claim that anime is becoming more prevalent
>You should get on board because I say so
>Here is a book that I haven't read that actually doesn't relate to this subject
>I am vampire
b8

>>18207899
What do you think a ' receiving a poisoned wound from orcs' is euphemism for?

>>18207878
does it have minorities, interracial, faggots and cuckolding or is it false advertising?

Would Tolkien have supported anime?

>>18207900
Scholar
Princeps
Imager’s Battalion
Antiagon Fire
Rex Regis
Madness in Solidar
Treachery’s Tools
Assassin's Price
Endgames
Imager
Imager’s Challenge
Imager’s Intrigue

>>18207900
Not that anon but reading order in modesitt doesn't matter as long as you make sure you start 2-3 book sequences with the first book.

The first imager trilogy is set after all of the subsequent imager stories but it's probably best still read first as it introduces concepts and stories that the latter books in the series expand upon.
As for Recluce I wouldn't even try to read that in internal chronological order, it's just too much fuss to organise all of the books into that lol.

>>18207906
How would that be a euphemism for rape though? Makes more sense to be torture imo

>>18207909
Yes, but never Hololive.

>>18207884
They don’t care. They just want an excuse to act like asses.

>>18207924
>Hololive
This is the true cancer

>>18207909
Only high fantasy kino

>>18207884
>mangas

>>18207963
mangae

>>18207909
>would a man who hated disney cartoon films have hated anime
who knows

>>18207963
mangi>>18207963

>>18207982
magnum

Just got done reading overlord vol 10
What did you guys think of it?

>>18208062
Amazing prose .

>>18207907
None of that.

>>18208076
SOUL https://m.imgur.com/a/jg2ge

>>18207907
This is the thread for you, they will answer your every questions
>>18200057

>>18208176
you will never be white

>take a 1 month break from /lit/ and reading
>you faggots still can't shut the fuck up about bakker

>>18208246
Don't worry, they created their own little safe space to talk all about him.

>>18208251
That would imply that they were ever interested in discussing Bakker's work and weren't just shitposting furiously.

Looks like it's time for some more Tchaikovsky kino.

any contemporary sci fi that deals with ESP and precognition? I miss that stuff and how it was all the rage in the 60s

>>18200972
Asimov moved to America when he was 3. Come on.

>>18208318
Mindbridge by Joe Haldeman

but that came out in the late 70s

>>18208318
Minority report?

>>18208311
I read his Children of the Stars (i think thats the name). I liked it a lot.

>>18208355
think anon think, PKD is not contemporary

>>18202631
Russia is not Central Europe.

>>18208403
Did you confuse USSR and Russia?

>>18208415
They're one in the same.

>>18200972
>assimov
he said good fantasy amd sf

>>18208593
Cringe contrarian.

>>18207794
MilSF is back on the menu, boys.
>>18206530
>only 2 chapters of interest, at the every beginning and the end, while the entire middle section of the book is of little interest
Holy shit, literally and unironically filtered.

>>18208311
>The man’s name is Weldon. The woman’s is Smantha. “Samantha?” I clarify, but no, apparently it’s ‘Smantha.’ I’ve been invaded by chrononautic hipsters.
ohnonono

There are two sffgay threads and both of them suck.
Must be the anniemay tards.

>>18208781
Is the new star wars show good?

>>18201561
The King of Elfland's Daughter
The Gormenghast trilogy
Lilith by George Macdonald
The Master and Margarita
Little, Big

>>18209060
I like it, but I was the right age for the Clone Wars to appeal to me when it started so I have something like an investment in the franchise.

>>18208857
>$100 patreon tier
>don't ask for nudes

WHY ARE YOU DOING THE NONNUDE ROUTINE WHEN I CAN LITERALLY SEE HER NIPPLES THROUGH THE BRA

I DONT UNDERSTAND WOMEN

>>18209208
So you grew up with the show as well?

>>18207548
Irrefutably based. Nobody hates non-European novels, they hate xianxia, isekai, webnovels, and other poorly curated trash written for the mentally crippled.

>>18208857
Sexy rifle

>>18209310
>and other poorly curated trash written for the mentally crippled.
If that were true, Bakker wouldn’t be accepted here as well.

A Song of Ice and Fire was better before it became part of modern pop culutre

>>18209383
What changed that made it worse?

>>18208403
Russia is not even europe. Its eastern europe if you go by geography, and europe's east ends at Ural mountains. Russian Federation is much bigger than that.
>>18208587
They are not.

>>18209395

Smaller and comfier fanbase. Geek chick nerd culture wasn't a thing yet.

>>18209400
Isn’t the fan baseball but dead?

>>18209444
Yes, it baseball but dead.

>>18209397
Excluding novel due to heir geolocation is stupid.

New thread.
>>18209472