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18208906 No.18208906 [Reply] [Original]

What’s a higher form of art? Literature or Music?

>> No.18208939

>>18208906
Music. /thread

>> No.18209013

Depends on what you mean by higher form. Literature has an inherent level of inaccessibility when you think about it. Anyone can listen to a musical piece and get something out of it. Not so with literature. Most of the truly great works of literature are incomprehensible to at least half of the population. No matter what you do, you will never be able to teach someone with a double digit IQ to appreciate Proust

>> No.18209024

There is no "higher" or "lower." Music and literature have vastly different effects and are ultimately to dissimilar to be "ranked."

>> No.18209034

>>18209024
*too

>> No.18209051

>>18209013
So "gatekeeping = higher form" theory

Okay here's the highest form of poety

sddfhgdhfgd
dfgjkldfhgd
dfghfd

Nobody knows what that poet means. It is inaccessible for everyone therefore the highest form of literature ever written, by your logic that is.

>> No.18209124

>>18208939
What made you come to that conclusion? I don’t disagree, I’m just wondering

>> No.18209132

Video Games > Films > Music > Visual Art > Literature

>> No.18209142

>>18209132
Based, though the only vidya really worth considering as art is MGS2 or Killer7

>> No.18209155

>>18208906
Music is higher but literature surpasses it.

>> No.18209156

literature, simply because it’s “purer”, and it’s entirely about the author’s ability. music does take into account the artist’s ability but many other factors can play in to the quaility of a recorded piece of music

>> No.18209161

>>18209142
Silent Hill 2

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18209169

>>18209161
More like "Creppy pedo 2"

>> No.18209177

>>18209169
Can't make any sense of your reply

>> No.18209182

>>18209051
>So "gatekeeping = higher form" theory
Except you are strawmanning his claim. He is talking about a genetic filter, not an arbitrary or social act of "gatekeeping."

>> No.18209192

>>18209051
Fucking based

>> No.18209261

>>18209169
Never played it so I wouldn’t know

>> No.18209312

A book can create an entire people, i.e., the bible. What song can do the same? The word is God.

>> No.18209358

>>18209312
Johann Sebastian Bach’s later works (Mass in B Minor, The Musical Offering, The Art of Fugue, Goldberg Variations)

>> No.18209370
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18209370

Both at the same time.

>> No.18209374

>>18209051
to me, this poem has a few meanings.
1. laziness, or a principle of least action physics. evidence by the specific letter selectio all being on the home row.

sddfhgdhfgd
sfgjkldfgd
dfghfd

2. urgency, and impatience, noted by the consecutive shortening of each line.

contextualizing it within the post, it expresses
3. a "purer" taste to the argument, as in the only content served by the poem is a direct counterexample without judgement, snark or glib.

4. contextualizing it within the type of poetry the writer's been exposed to, i am totally unsure because the poster is anon and it looks like they didn't respond to any subsequent replies. because it's on the internet and a "keyboard mash" is a familiar touchstone, maybe that's why the author chose this structure instead of an even more minimal one. why didn't the author choose

a
a
a

as the poem? it's more efficient in terms of choosing characters, but actually required more thought for me to construct this example because of my own familiarity with a keyboard mash as "standard nonsense", as well as considering the physicality of the keyboard.

maybe this isn't *your* original intention in writing this, but the author could be dead and this is, as the original OP stated, what *I* get out of it.

>> No.18209483

>>18208906
Reading? Literature because of genetics. Writing? Music, but literature is obviously right up there with it.

>> No.18209674

>>18208906
possibly the recurring thread (and its variants) most emblematic of how contemptible nu-/lit/ has become. if you have an earnest opinion on this you're ngmi

>> No.18209972

>>18209374
Holy based

>> No.18209990

>>18208906
What a stupid question.

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>>18209374

>> No.18210719

>>18208906
this is a meaningless question

>> No.18210722

>>18208906
/lit/ and /mu/ has proven that none of those are
>higher form of art

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18210947

both mediums have works of high art, so you can´t compared them

high art relates to the transcendental, beyond the /mundane) human experience, in a way relates to strive for man (at least the western man) to reach his highest potential

in the pre-contemporary age was easier to reach that potential because it insertected with religion/ancient beliefs, always striving to become one with the creator

personally even without religion, you can strive for high art, it relates to the will to power, (the ancient greeks were supertitious but they didn´t fear Zeus as much as respected him for his authority) but you have to very knowledgeable with what you´re dealing with and being humble and self-aware about your persona, old artists knew that implicitly

>> No.18211379

Music transcends
Literature expands

>> No.18211733

>>18211379
I think they can both transcend and expand

>> No.18211747

>>18209374
lmfao

>> No.18211761

>>18211733
So does my asshole kek

>> No.18211793

>>18209156
comparing over 1000 years of literature with just over 100 years of recorded music seems a bit silly

>> No.18211820

>>18211761
haha!

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>>18209051
We truly live in a blessed age, brothers. That we have seen with our own eyes the creation of the highest form or poetry. Life is beautiful.

>> No.18211860

For me, literature is more human whereas music is more divine.
I like them both.

>> No.18212013

>>18211761
For me to stick my BBC inside of course

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18212107

>>18212013
If I explained the layers of the joke, you would still not understand it and that just makes it even funnier

>> No.18212136

>>18212107
Kek shut up faggot

>> No.18212155

>>18211793
>perotin

>> No.18212160

>>18212155
Recordings didn’t exist 1000 years ago...

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18212166

>wasting time on an arbitrary and meaningless discussion
/lit/ does it again.

>> No.18212168

>>18212160
music is older than recorded music

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>>18212136
But didn't you just talk about your lust for sodomy that would be considers my dear sir homosexual behavior and then then thou foul tongue uttered the word faggot which is a part of the poetic language of children meaning "a person whom engages in homosexual behavior" so sir I proclaim with the highest authority you my dear gentlemen is the so called "faggot" here
>you are a one layered person and that's why you don't get it

>> No.18212236

>>18212166
That's why I'm here, it makes me laugh every time. Its not like it's a repeating never ending cycle, that could only be explained, by the inability to learn or a constant influx of new retards.
>read the people through their text not the text itself then is it the best satire you hope to write

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>>18212236
Here's a mental picture

>> No.18212300

>>18212166
Pretty sure it’s just bait

>> No.18212304

>>18209051
Reddit moment

>> No.18212359

>>18212304
/lit/ is the diet version of reddit. I even read this in a thread today
> I'm not an antisemite
And there's the same amount of stupid arguments that any good neckbeard would tip their fedora to
>Its full autism all the way baby
But as long as the url doesn't say le reddit its doesn't count as political neutral bugman behavior