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Do any good cookbooks even exist?

>> No.18191629

Now post Butterfly's picture :3

>> No.18191650

As with all literature, it's best to start with the Greeks

>> No.18191661

>>18191650
i would think the french

>> No.18191688

cookbooks are relics of a bygone age. Their formulaic nature is okay for baked goods that need precision, but youtube is unironically a better way to learn how to cook. Food is one of the few things that's much better in the 21st century, we have access to all sorts of produce and recipes and techniques some 20th century housewife could never dream of. The visual element in a video is a big help too. Bluh why would you bother with cookbooks for real

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>>18191688
btw there are some good books ABOUT cooking/cooking theory, like my friend picked up this up on a whim and enjoyed and learned from it, but an actual recipe book? Seems like a larp in current year.

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>>18191650
This is actually a pretty decent cookbook ngl

>> No.18191942

>>18191624
Archestratus. It's basically fish mixed with gayness.

>> No.18193038

>>18191719
What about how to do all the things like cutting and shit?

>> No.18193082

>can't make good foods by himself
ngmi

>> No.18193101

>>18191688
For regular home cooking, sure. But if you want to take your cooking to the next level books can be very beneficial (even for those working in restaurants).

The French Laundry cookbook changed the game in many ways. It is 22 years old now but still holds up.

Moreover, you have a bunch of books from other three-starred restaurants: Alinea, Astrance, Eleven Madison Park, Mirazur, Frantzén et cetera.

elBulli 2005-2011 and Modernist Cuisine are expensive as fuck, but extremely impressive works.

>> No.18193114

>>18191688
Bullshit. The book's always faster because you don't have to scroll past blogspam, popups, or scroll thru and process a whole video. You can't print a youtube video either. I hate using online recipes and would always refer to a cookbook if I could.

>>18193038
You should watch a video on techniques like he said.

>> No.18193119

>>18193101
Jokes on you faggot I have almost all of these and I still can't cook because I don't have any of the gear

>> No.18193134

>>18193119
Blaming your tools instead of your lack of skill is not a good look.

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>>18191650
Start with the basics

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>>18193252
wrong pic

>> No.18193285

>>18193134
Sorry I haven't figured out how to chemical spherification using only a saucepan

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Cooking and eating is one of the biggest parts in every humans life. There has to be some interesting literature that focuses on cuisine in some way that isn't just a bunch of recipes bundled together.
I haven't found it yet though.

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This book is god tier OP. I've made like 5 or 6 of the recipes in it and they are amazing.
On paper, the ingredients make no sense, but when you taste it, you get reminded why he is a 5 star chef and you aren't.

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>>18193398
>5 star chef

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/thread

>> No.18193536

>>18193038
You're better off doing a short culinary course. Might even find some friends there.

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>>18191624

>> No.18193623

>>18193038
read Jacque Pepin's La Technique, or look for the video version on youtube

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>>18191688
>>18193114
>You should watch a video

>> No.18194205

>>18193629
yes you should

>> No.18194337

>>18191624
Madame Ste Ange or Brillat-Savarin if you want a literary experience, Ratio if you're autistic.

>> No.18194378

>>18191688
based
/thread
I sold all of my cookbooks. If you want to learn something check this out:
https://youtube.com/c/GialloZafferanoItalianRecipes
also there are some cool online courses too.
Cookbooks were meant for housewives and midwits anyway so that's not that big of a loss.

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PIC RELATED. very important book

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Needs more Boomer books.

All the younger generations just get recipes online.

>> No.18195734

Based.cooking

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>> No.18195828

>>18191719
My favorite cookbook. Such a solid foundation that you can build (or save) literally any dish with. I’m a line cook and cooking at home is my biggest hobby. This book pulled me out of a terrible culinary rut

>> No.18196695

>>18193101
>Alinea, Astrance, Eleven Madison Park, Mirazur, Frantzén
>Salt Fat Acid Heat
I can't find these as PDF:s, could anyone help a fellow anon out?

>> No.18196700

>>18196695
I'm a low functioning retard and didn't delete the second line after looking it up and in fact getting the PDF. I apologize.

>> No.18196707

>>18191624
The frugal gourmet

>> No.18196761

>>18191719
i went to a potluck that this woman was at once. she made some really good ribs.

>> No.18196951

>>18195408
Boomer food is awful though, my friend's normie moms are some of the worst cooks I know

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This is a classic of Italian literature, kino as a novel

>> No.18197637

>>18191624
Yes

>> No.18197654

he doesn't know based.cooking

>> No.18197657

>>18195408
McCall's is the best boomer cookbook. It's the perfect boomer cookbook. The cheese and wine pairing explainer mentions the boys coming back from the war.

>> No.18198505

>>18191650
Greeks have shit food.

>> No.18198978

>>18193412
?

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Picture is all you need.

>> No.18199089

>>18191845
Love me some stuffed mouse

>> No.18199123

>>18191650
Yeah med food is the best
Flavor it Greek is a good cookbook. Even the yayas at church would say so.
>>18191661
French is like "let's use make things look fancy so we can get away with having shitty food"

>> No.18199132

Why, The Gravity's Rainbow Cookbook, of course!

>> No.18199244

Futurist Cookbook

>> No.18199427

>>18199132
I prefer David Foster Wallace's Infinite Zest.

>> No.18199679

>>18191688
I don’t think people really read cookbooks to learn to cook, people read them to see creative or unique recipes. Yeah a lot of them are online but it’s nice just to have them compiled already.

>> No.18200624

>>18191650
Romans.

>> No.18201253

>>18191624
Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat

>> No.18201297

>>18195105
Souds like ti was written by a useless crank

>> No.18201844

bump

>> No.18201892

>>18193101
I have downloaded some of these and Modernist Cuisine is based heavily around sous vide. I prefer not eating more plastics that I already do. Gonna keep reading though, there's probably some good stuff in there.

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>>18191624

>> No.18203425

>>18199244
>shopping list
>one tennis racket
>ball bearings
>mustard
>one man's hat
>plums
>petroleum
>bananas

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>>18191624
Literally the only cookbook worth a damn.

>> No.18204350

>>18198978
Not him but I think if you were referring to the Michelin system the highest tier you can get is 3 star chef, which is probably why he was cringing.

>> No.18204590

I have Kenji Lopez Alt's The Food Lab. It's a great reference, even has sections on knives and cookware and stuff like that.

Still, 99 times out of 100 I google "dish name" Serious Eats.

>> No.18204592

>>18204093
not true, but it does look cute

>> No.18204826

>>18191719
some anons will shit on samin because of her netflix show but this book really is a great read. any cook books that get a james beard foundation award are worth picking up, i haven't encountered a bad one yet

>> No.18204832

>>18204592
Read it and see.

>> No.18204839

>>18199009
surprisingly intense backstory to this classic

>> No.18204847

>>18204093
limited worth unless it's a series of volumes about each bioregion/culture

>> No.18205064

>>18204847
Even better, it's first hand accounts of living and working with the last members of true
peasant societies across Europe, recipes are placed in the context of the personalities and societies that surround them through short vignettes and reminiscences.

>> No.18205118

Tao Te Ching

>> No.18205174

>>18199123
The French literally invented gastronomy.

>> No.18205297

Anything else like Larousse Gastronomique? As in, a huge book of succinct recipes for people who know how to cook and can fill in the blanks.

>> No.18205323

>>18204093
Is the food any good?

>> No.18205606

>>18205323
I like it.

>> No.18205616

>>18200624
they won't give you exact measurements, which is not something you want to be dealing with as a novice cook

>> No.18205634

>>18195105
My moms fav

>> No.18205670

>>18204590
>the foodlab
i always wait for this book to get mentioned in cookbook threads. that's a great book if only for explaining how chemicals in food reacts to heat to a newbie. learning about how cornstarch, flour, cheese, acids/fats etc interact is something cooking nerds i know always gloss over in favor of flavor profiles/layering or knife skills that are almost irrelevant to a home cook or hobbyist.

unfortunately someone read me some of his twitter shit, making me regret the internet all over again.

>> No.18205769

>>18199123
>French is like "let's use make things look fancy so we can get away with having shitty food"
Ask me how I know you know nothing about food besides shitty zoomer memes.

>> No.18205773

>>18191845
but thats roman
>>18191650
do we have an ancient greek cook book? i dont think so. Pretty sure >>18191845 is the oldest dedicated cooking book instead of just mentioning it in passing.

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/lit/ plebs don't know about Pushpesh Pant.

>> No.18206546

>>18195105
this is a generally good summary on the observations of weston price but with one caveat: fermented cod liver oil should not be consumed. there is nothing wrong with regular canned cod liver

>> No.18208151

>>18206546
>something wrong in a communist book written by two females, one of them a "scientist"
color me surprised

>> No.18208250

>>18196972
Great, I wanted to post this

>> No.18208407

wish there was a good cookbook for people who find instant ramen too exhausting to cook 90% of the time

>> No.18208431

>>18208407
if you got tired of Camus you can proceed to Sartre

>> No.18208966

>>18201892
Sous Vide can also be done with a silicon or glass enclosure.

>> No.18210048

>>18204093
>European
what kind of anlgo meme is that?

>> No.18210050

bump

>> No.18210065

>>18191719
>poojet cooking
I'll pass thanks.

>> No.18210591

>>18210048
It's a variety of distancing, so long as the anglo can refer to the 'continental' it excuses their disinterest in the affairs of the European geopolitical intrigues (outside of maintaining division).