/lit/ - Literature

>>18185878
Mira Gonzalez's twitter

>>18185919
Mira is chaos

>>18185878
Currently in between

>>18185878
twitter / wikipedia articles

>>18185878
I haven't finished a book in months

>>18185940
Which Harry Potter books?

>>18186007
None of that will ever make sense until you understand the Jewish Question.

>>18185878
Xrp whitepaper

>>18186090
I was of the Star Wars generation and I don’t miss miss Harry

>>18186116
So Prisoner of Azkaban, then.

>>18185878
Dona Flor and her two husbands by Jorge Amado

>>18185878
Lovecraft's stories in chronological order. I'm already at The PIcture in the House.

>>18185878
base quest for fire slut, currently reading perfume, and I can wait for him to die, i can feel it[/ spoiler]

>>18185878
Just started to reread Vonnegut's early work for the first time in 20 years, got the LOA book with Player Piano, Sirens of Titan, Mother Night, and a few short stories. Mainly want to reread Mother Night but just going through it from the start, I am really enjoying Player Piano, never read Sirens of Titan so looking forward to it. Thinking I will tackle The Boarder Trilogy after this, just ordered them and Proust from Everyman's.

american psycho
>>18186728
good call, also been meaning to read player piano for a while now

>>18186007
you'd think that those organisations would have better things to do than pander to the shrieking psychos that inhabit twitter

The Idiot

That is Rae Dawn Chong reading. She is the daughter of Tommy Chong and Maxine SNEED.

Currently reading Capitalist Realism. It's aight, wish he used real examples and not pop culture.

>>18185878
pretty comfy

>>18185878
Les paradis imaginaires

>>18185878
The player. Is that image from a french movie about pre-historic intertribal missionary sex?

Poetic Edda

The learned disguise by R.C Waldun. I had some time to kill yesterday and no other book on hand so I started it. Have to read a bad book every once in awhile. I’ll probably finish it today for shits and giggles and then move on to some of my short story collections.

Finished Runaway Horses last night and ordered the Temple of Dawn. I'm currently reading the Art of Fiction.

>>18185878
Ficciones

>>18185878
Quite literally just finished Moby Dick. Goddamn what a good fucking book. Took me like 3 months of struggling through it on top of uni readings but it was very worth it. I think this may be the best book I have ever read. If anyone tries to tell you Melville isn't the GOAT of American lit then please kill them because fuck damn Moby Dick slaps harder than anything I've ever placed under my eyeballs

nothing

>>18188233
>I think this may be the best book I have ever read.

what's the second greatest book you've ever read?

>>18188244
Honestly not sure, I think the last book that struck me this hard was Lonesome Dove or maybe Blood Merdian (the influence that Melville had on Mccarthy is one of the main reasons I picked up).
But the only things comparable in terms of prose and literary value that I've actually read is Shakespeare

>>18188320
You should read Dante's Divine Comedy.

mark musa translation or mandellbaum

>>18188346
I'll put it on the list, rn I have like 3 books on U.S.-Native American history to read

>>18185878
Tender is the night. I don't know why so many people dislike Fitzgerald here, is it because they had to read The Great Gatsby in high school? Because that's fucking edgy, like those who call Shakespeare mediocre.

I finished reading the first volume of the Another light novel.
Was really interesting all up to the first death, and then the storytelling went downhill, wanna see how it ends, not so sure I want to sit through it again.

Picked up The archetypes and the collective unconscious by Jung, it's a pretty interesting take so far.

holberg, proust, pessoa

the republic. i want to see what the deal with plato is. it's my first philosophy book. i'm hoping he gets into the questions like:
>does objective truth exists?
>is truth good?
>if god is good, then is god truth?
maybe these questions are retarded. but i've heard a little bit about plato's forms from my english teacher in high school, and i thought it was a very useful idea. i think it can apply religions like christianity, specifically heaven and god. a perfect square is a "form" that never truly manifests in the material world, but only appears in rough approximations of a square; the ideal can never be realized. the perfect square exists outside of this world, in a different realm, so to speak? maybe that isn't how it sounds in my head. but i think that heaven is like this "higher realm" and truth is impossible to see in the material world (it exists only in the higher realm). i don't think this is coming out how i want it to, i don't know how to articulate myself yet. so i will finish the book until i know how to say this. forgive the bad english

>>18185878
Currently reading Why Nations Fail by Daron Acemoglu after that I want to read some comfy fiction. I am tired of politics.

>>18188374
ooh, which ones? i'm interested, anon

>>18185878
murphy

>>18188736
by beckett?

are you enjoying it so far, anon?

>>18185878
Imagine reading anything other than the Holy Bible or things that are about the Holy Bible.

>>18188555
Rather than truth, the main topic of the republic is Justice, but it also dwells on stuff like truth and democracy, this changed my entire perception of it.
>"Would you trust anyone to operate a ship, or a well seasoned sailor?
>"The sailor, of course"
>"Then why should we let politics be handled by people who don't understand them?"
It made me realize very hard how little I actually understand about economics, politics or how to adress problems in a society, and this is even more true for the average Joe who's never read a book in his life.

Then again, no goverment will have the needs of it's people at heart, so it's a lose-lose situation anyways.

>>18188770
yup its p good watchin his plays got me hooked

>>18185878
I'm re-reading The Crossing and it's better the second time probably because I'm not constantly waiting for John Grady to show up when he never actually does

>>18185878
Just finished Stirner this morning. Reading Yeats collection of potato myths now.

>>18188800
you watched his plays?

which ones and where?

>>18188797
i see, thanks for the heads up. do you know what i should read next, so that i can explore those questions? i don't know much about philosphy, i just chose the republic because i recognized plato's name, and have thought a lot about what my teacher said about his forms.

>>18188725
Heartbreak of Wounded Knee (indian history from 1890 to now)
Encounters at the heart of the world (history of the Mandan people)
A good year to die: the story of the great sioux war

Some other ones I liked if your interested
Blood and Thunder (technically about folk hero Kit Carson but has a lot of stuff on the Navajo)
Blood Moon (really interesting book about the Ross vs Ridge blood feud that flavored up in the Cherokee nation before the Civil war
Empire of the Summer Moon (about the subjugation of the Comanches

>>18188870
This is a great list.
Saved.

Thank you.

>>18188881
Np thank you for being interested anon. American Indian history is interesting as fuck

>>18188870
Interesting. I want to read more about Native Americans. What would you say is the most historically accurate book about them? Right now, I have the Ohlone Way on my list

>>18188888
Tbh it's pretty fuckin hard to give a recommendation like that. There are like 570 federally recognized tribes in the us and who knows how many that have been destroyed over the years. Many don't have concrete surviving histories and much of the history we have of them is written by the people who killed them.
I would recommend picking a tribe or region you're interested in and then picking up a book about that.
Or you could start with the new England stuff. King Phillips war is a super important bit of American history that nobody knows about. For that check out Mayflower or The Name of War ( the second is a lot denser)

>>18188931
OK let me specify more. I am primarily looking for a book on how Native Americans interacted with nature, their folklore, and spiritual aspects. If I had to pick a tribe, I would take the ones in the pacific northwest

>>18185878
2666, found the first part really great, struggling to get into the Fate section. Gonna keep at it, though.

>>18185878

>>18185878
the coffin texts.
very confusing, would not recomend

>>18188952
Hmmm, I unfortunately don't know too much about northwestern indians. Try popping over to your library and finding a book that catalogues the different tribes then check footnotes and sources from there to find something

>>18188952
Anything you find is going to be bullshit. They picked up a bunch of stuff from the hippies and started retconning their own past "beliefs" because it made the white man look even worse for taking everything over here and putting them into containment zones. "we wuz harmonized with nature"

>>18189009
I want to read that. Looks good.

>>18188867
wating for godot,end game,krapps last tape torrented them watched at home

>>18189088
>"we wuz harmonized with nature"
But they were. The ecological diversity before the arrival of Europeans was greater than anywhere else. There are a number of farming and fishing practices they used that are just now being embraced in permaculture.

>>18185878
I can really see the Tolkein influence, since I'm halfway through the book and there still has been like two things that have happened in total.

Portnoys Complaint

>>18189122
Interesting.

I just recommended, maybe a week ago, for everyone to watch those specific three, and had links up for them in the post, as well.

>>18189210
yeah i was lurkin that beckett thread thats you?lmao

>>18185878
What's she reading?

>>18189371
My diary desu

>>18188233
Glad you liked it bro, I finished Moby Dick three years ago and it's been on my mind ever since. Melville was a genius.


>And how nobly it raises our conceit of the mighty, misty monster, to behold him solemnly sailing through a calm tropical sea; his vast, mild head overhung by a canopy of vapour, engendered by his incommunicable contemplations, and that vapour--as you will sometimes see it--glorified by a rainbow, as if Heaven itself had put its seal upon his thoughts. For, d'ye see, rainbows do not visit the clear air; they only irradiate vapour. And so, through all the thick mists of the dim doubts in my mind, divine intuitions now and then shoot, enkindling my fog with a heavenly ray. And for this I thank God; for all have doubts; many deny; but doubts or denials, few along with them, have intuitions. Doubts of all things earthly, and intuitions of some things heavenly; this combination makes neither believer nor infidel, but makes a man who regards them both with equal eye.

>>18185919
careful that girl is dangerous

>>18185878
Dostoevsky: Crime and punishment

>>18189495
different anon here. i am very interested in moby dick, and am thinking of buying it. this might seem like a strange question, but i just wanted to ask: what is it about? i know about the general plot already (captain guy is obsessed with finding a whale or something?). i'm instead asking what the... point(?) of the book is. not exactly sure how to phrase my question, lol. the brothers karamazov is a good example of a novel that has a purpose, which is to explore human suffering, faith, freedom, etc., and to (hopefully) offer a "solution" to these problems. does moby dick have a similar "purpose," or is it more like a beautiful painting that simply looks good, but doesn't pretend to offer some sort of deep insight?
sorry if my question is confusing. i've noticed that my ability to communicate has been decaying recently

all the light we cannot see
i'm reading it for my book club. it's ok, a bit cheesy. hitler youth camp is fun

>>18189756
Moby Dick definitely has a purpose in the way you describe, though what that purpose is would change depending on the person you ask. There's a lot of ways you can interpret the book, the books main focus is on symbols and the search for truth, the struggle in trying to find meaning in anything around us, and the horror about whether or not that meaning is actually there. As the book puts it both Ahab and Ishmael are searching for ' the image of the ungraspable phantom of life', though both try to do so in radically different ways.

>>18189878
you just convinced me to read it. that's directly up my alley. i hope the prose isn't too hard

>>18185878
Artemis by Andy Weir, it's middling at a generous, just beem laid best.

>>18186764
Player Piano is pretty good. So far it reads like he was writing a dystopian novel based on the promises of the atomic age and mechanization/computerization, but did not quite take it to the extremes which characterize dystopian stories. He was not looking very far into the future and used the fairly recent past to base the path on, which worked fairly well and he did get some things right but at times you get weird glimpses of almost steam punk since he seems to have based his views of current tech and where we were headed on Popular Science. His writing is not the greatest and lacks the brevity he later developed, but it does not detract, mainly you get odd bits of completely useless information where he tries to set the scene. His style to come is definitely there and it is interesting to see how he developed it. I think I will find myself much preferring his early works once I finish this.

>>18189963
It's pretty thick at points. Just take your time and don't rush through it.

>>18189173
>But they were.
Mostly because their lifestyle kept the population in check, they did not balance their lives with nature, nature balanced their lives with itself.
>just now being embraced in permaculture.
Not quite accurate, they were used the world over and never completely fell out of favor, just got pushed to a corner with the rise of large scale farming.

There are things to learn from the natives but don't fall for the noble savage meme. They had their strengths and weaknesses just like any other culture.

>>18189963
Excellent decision, anon. As the other anon said, the prose is thick at places, but it's also sensuous and a pleasure to read.

As far as what it's "about," I'm always most interested in the different ideas of the sublime that occur in the novel and how Ishmael, Queequeg, and Ahab react to them (i.e. natural, rhetorical, aesthetic, etc.). It's also common to read it as about something political: the ship as a small republic in which every man must contribute in order to succeed/thrive, and how it can be hijacked by the charismatic strongman.

Without exaggeration, I think it is the greatest novel ever written, if we can call it a novel.

>>18190191
thanks for the explanation. it really pleases me to hear what you said about it being a republic; i am this anon: >>18188555, and i was looking for something fictional to read at the same time as something non-fiction, that being the republic. moby dick seems like it'll serve that function beautifully.
>focus on the search for truth and meaning
this is why i'm reading the republic
>the ship can be viewed as a small republic
thank you anons. i will power through the difficult prose

>>18185878
Quest for Fire is such a great film. Currently reading The Sorrows of Young Werther

>>18188233
Yeah I read it this winter. One of those books that sticks to the roof of your mouth for a long while afterwards

>>18185878
posts on /lit/

Just started this
Interesting so far but is it 1300 pages of interesting?
We shall see.

>>18185878
TBK

>>18185878
I’m rereading Dead Souls by Gogol. One of the funniest books I’ve read. He is just a joy to read in general

>>18190130
The points you make basically support my claim that the Natives were in some way much more in tune with nature than we are today.
>noble savage meme
I know that Natives fought each other a lot and could be absolutely brutal. They weren't this extremely peaceful group. I am more interested in their interaction with nature though.

listening to, can't find a file, Last Orgy of the Divine Hermit, Mark Leyner
Jew, but surprisingly good stream-of-consciousness lit; gonna finish up Kolyma Tales next week

>>18188952
Nez paz, I think they are called, pretty sure they're still arround. Best this interloper can suggest.

>>18185878
this is the stupidest fucking picture ive seen this week

>>18185878
Schoppy's Essays

>>18191933
What’s stupid about it?

>>18191995
>doesn't know what's stupid about it

>>18192027
It’s a picture of actress Rae Dawn Chong reading and smoking in between scenes for the movie Quest for Fire. What makes it the stupidest fucking picture you’ve seen this week? Is it something /pol/ related that I just can’t wrap my brain around?

>>18192056
Art hoe + tribal shit is a very distasteful mix anon

>>18192071
It’s for a movie

>>18185878
The Unconsoled. It reads like a bad trip on acid and weed, in an awesome kind of way. Or at least that’s the impression it makes on me

just finished roadside picnic because I'm slow.
just started The Collector because someone here recommended it yesterday

>>18192083
Yeah that's fine, but photography can make it's own implications. The photo has a message of it's own, and it's tumblr edgy bullshit.

>>18191859
They really were not more in tune with nature, just more at its mercy. If you read more balanced books which do not just focus on the positive you will see this. And if you learn about agricultural history you will see that the same practices where in use pretty much world wide until centuries of farming and population growth left Europe fighting little wars over bird shit covered rocks in the middle of the ocean in an vein attempt to hold off famine which led to the development of fertilisers and modern large scale farming. It is an interesting story, worth learning about.

120 journeés de Sodome and Plato’s complete work

>>18192154
It’s a simple behind the scenes shot. It’s absurd, like the film industry, like a clown putting on his makeup.
Shut the fuck up already

>>18192293
I understand that it's a simple behind the scenes picture, but put it in an art gallery or a tumblr blog and then it becomes pretentious garbage immediately. Without context, it is automatically the latter. Nigger faggot.

>>18185878
The Scarlet Letter

>>18186044
Why?

>>18191450
Have you happened to read The Bridge on the Drina? It's the only Balkans book I own right now and still need to read it. I also want to read On the Edge of Reasons, another book by a Balkans author, but am waiting until I find a cheaper copy or will pony up for it after I read lots of other stuff I still have to read

The Selfish Gene

>>18192322
You’re an idiot