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>nothing in 2010s
But what about drain gang

Based. I met Fukuyama at a rave in '89 and he explained all this exactly to me before asking for glowstick a lightshow.

>>18178037
xD

The public domain history is ended and everything is happening now very quickly in walled gardens away from rejected scum of subhumanity / proles / serfs, for which which they will manufacture a fake public history laughing at you while your harvestables are being sold to the highest bidder.

based. electronic music has been in decline since dubstep ended in 2007.

>>18178019
There have been like no new music genres in the 2010s period. Certainly no new rock, hard to say new hip hop, though genres like trap got bigger in the 2010s. Is this proof history really ended?

>>18178074
>There have been like no new music genres in the 2010s period
You seem like somebody really tuned into the music scene.

genres aren't real

where is my favorite genre from the 10s, vaporwave?

Has anyone actually considered that this might be a return to normal, and that the rapid production of trends, only to be replaced by more rapidly produced trends, was the outlier.

>tfw fell into the speedcore/breakcore hole

>>18178129
That’s possible but I think we are at the point of no return now. It’s so easy to get music out now with social media and the internet. I think this period we are in is the new norm

>history has ended
it has only just begun.

>>18178168
Fucking pngs

>dude, no, that's NOT a hard trance record, it's OBVIOUSLY a dancepunk record with elements of microfunk!
electronictards should be gassed, their entire genre sounds the same so they have to invent all these nonsense categories, same as metal

>>18178074
Culture is literally dead. Everything is now an accessible commodity on social media that anyone can consume. Nothing new is being made, everything is just regurgitated and simulated over and over to appear as new. Just look at the absolute state of Hollywood, they completely gave up on making original corporate blockbusters, now it’s 2000 superhero movies and franchises

>>18178066
go suck off Moldbug on your all-male urbit star system you delusional pencil neck

>>18178074
>>18178019
it's the opposite. it moves so fast and mixes so readily that no one bothers to come up with useless names and the silly historicism of 'the birth of a genre'. people make more and more music and much of it is unique. whether or not it is recognised or you've heard it is irrelevant.

>>18178367
>make a metal song with an ukulele
>wow, such original, much unique

>>18178019
Counterexamples: vaporwave, dubstep

>>18178019
Lol I hate the new layout of the guide, waited for like 10 years for the update and it’s shit

>>18178019
is EDM not a type of electronic music?

>>18178019
I don't even know EDM well and I can see missing genres, like tropical house or witch house.

Electronic music was always gay

>>18178469
Except the times when actual composers made it.

>>18178483
It was always gay

>>18178019
Lmao. The absolute state of electronic fags

>>18178433
>tropical house or witch house.
that's because these are meme genres that don't exist

>>18178521
Is it the same case for future house?

is skrillex dubstep or brostep and what is brostep?

>>18178108
no one who knows anything about music posts about it on 4chang
everyone here thinks whatever shitty internet artist they like is genuinely obscure or that they are unique for liking alternative 90s or whatever the fuck lukewarm shit everyone here listens to

theres literally a dubstep guy in this thread

but yes of course 100 subgenres were born in the last decade.

>>18178516
wow this is the gayest thing ive read in a while. how is garage related to disco? disco is sick. garage fucking sucks. future garage, garage, future bass uk bass weightless etc: I hate brits.

>>18178019
Where’s the psybient?
And Ferraro’s stuff. Human Story 3 etc.

>>18178019
All those genres for such little substance just signals a time will come in which people become tired of there being so many genres.

>>18178776
a lot of genres that aren't present are thrown into the list as "synonymic" with the genres that are present. "psybient" is shoehorned as an other name for psydub
>>18178878
you're just ignorant. all these genres hit different once you get to know them, at some point you want to listen to a specific genre that tickles you in just the right way, and that's what this genre fragmentation is for

>>18178729
it's about original, American garage scene. not the abomination that is UKG

>nearly all of those genres were invented by black people

Look up the artist "Daddyfinger" on all major streaming services to see the next stage in electronic music

>>18178955
>nearly ALL of music was invented by black people

>>18178932
No,

>>18178967
yet all they make now is rap
I wonder why

bump

>>18178074
vaporwave?

>>18178111
true

>LE HISTORY HAS ENDED GUYS!!!!!!!!
>things still happen
How does he explain this?

>>18178977
Do you live in a basement you ever leave?

>>18178367
This is the actual answer, if you disagree you just don't keep up with bleeding edge music, which is fine but drawing any theory about society from it is retarded

>>18179416
>bleeding edge music
link 1 (one).

>>18179419
You could easily deny literally any piece of music I could link as bleeding edge with little actual knowledge on the subject, so that would be a fruitless exercise.

>>18178367
This is only true for meme culture lol

>>18179423
lol so you can't even link 1 example. how pathetic

>>18179428
Yep, that is the standard response for the words in my previous post, its like I'm talking to a bot.

>>18179424
Not sure how you'd define any meaningful difference between the way meme culture and music culture works, anything that becomes popular is popular via memetics.

>>18178146

>>18178019
The end of history is characterized by a convergence of political systems betraying directionality in sociopolitical development. That nearly every regime post French revolution has slowly become popular is the surest sign of the end of history. Of course, as the reactionaries aptly pointed out, popular regimes are screen for oligarchs who rule by deceit over a populous to inundated by hubris to rebel; thus, if peace is the object of the state, we have reached its teleological conclusion

>>18179435
You know what I mean hairsplitter stop arguing in bad faith

>>18179432
same person you replied to:
i'm a /mu/tant since 2014 and i had my avant teen phase and all. i'm into popular and obscure music and like everything from classical through folk, blues, jazz, rock to electronic, and i'm active in the soundcloud threads, i tried making my own music on soundcloud, anyway, what i'm trying to say is, i'm pretty much on "the bleeding edge" of music and that bleeding edge is mostly non existent and shit, and can be categorized in 3 categories: (1) either soulless boring shit (whether it's indie, folk, bedroom pop, "drone," emo rap, what have you), (2) overly noodly LOOK IM EXPERIMENTAL GUISE, technically proficient but otherwise lifeless shit (shit like black midi, genres like deconstructed club, and the absolute horseshit that is hyperpop, which also belongs to the next category) or (3) boring revivalism that normally i would not classify as bleeding edge because duh - it doesn't innovate. it just revives, with all the historic genre's cliches, and without its soul.

so you can understand why i'm asking you to provide even 1 link.

music is dead
fisher was right

>>18179465
Could you provide any proof of your statements? You essentially just said there is new music but it lacks soul, which really can't be quantified. And to be honest, if those are your examples of bleeding edge music, then I was correct in assuming you don't keep up with it.

>>18178019
End of music is more Mark Fisher than Francis Fukuyama is it not?

>>18179455
Alright then I'll stop splitting hairs and divert to the other point, which is that music and meme culture are essentially the same on the internet to begin with.

>>18179480
lol, then post more bleeding edge music faggot

>>18179633
Already stated why that wouldn't pan out, do you have any further defences of your argument?

I guess history also ended in the medieval ages. No new music lol

>>18179644
>already stated why that wouldn't pan out
then you're a hypocrite, because you used the same kind of insecure attack (you thought i could use) when i boldly stepped out with my longpost critique while you cowardly hid behind short posts of 0 substance. kill yourself my dude

Who the fuck cares about innovation in music, and autistic genrefication? Why can't you just enjoy the the same music again? This is just the hedonistic treadmill all over again

>>18179671
Your post contained no substance whatsoever my friend, you stated your credentials which included browsing a forum for music and little else, and then went on to state that "yes there is new music but I think it sucks", you could have worded it much better than you did, and the length of the statement adds nothing to your argument.

>>18179252
>Floral Shoppe is over a decade old now
I think OP might be on to something.

>>18179688
>Who the fuck cares about innovation in music, and autistic genrefication?

Teenagers and the industry that targets them. Specifically through using music as part of identity formation and differentiating themselves from their parents.

>>18179697
lol you're pathetic dude. you're on an anonymous board and you're actually afraid of posting some recs because you're such a little bitch afraid of getting "roasted" on 4chan. grow up, bitch

>>18179724
Are you sure you're old enough to be on 4chan?

the world ended in 2012

I do think that contemporary music has a distinct quality. The dreampunk collective certainly encompasses that, and I think the recent development in the breakcore scene also. Whether you recognize it as completely original or groundbreaking depends on your measure, though it most certainly doesn't have a big effect on culture as a whole as older genres. It's more of a subtle atmosphere (for lack of a better word) that emerges in internet subcultures.
Kind of like Lain in a way. It's not a mainstream anime but the protagonist is still widely recognized on image boards because she expresses a certain isolating, postmodern vibe that emerged from the cyberspace subculture, a kind of character that especially younger and lonely people who grew up with the internet can relate to. She's like the icon of a generation (or perhaps multiple generations) that grew up with this sort of stuff.

>>18179465
>music is dead
>fisher was right
You are a funny guy