/lit/ - Literature

>Man shall not lie with man as with a woman. It is abomination.

That's because it's not self-help, it's soul-help.
The whole idea is being non-self-serving, and so you're not really helping yourself in any sense.
Whether you think that adds any merit is up to you though

>>18152464
Why is this cuckmaker propaganda soul-help, again?

>>18152447
Thing is, 99% of christians don't live in accordance with the bible teachings. Faith is mostly a liberal cope for their anxieties, tool for socialization around church or to show passive aggresiveness towards atheists. Most of them fuck before marriage too, usually the women.

>>18152447
>>18152469
>Blessed are the meek
Look up what the term "praus" actually means and go from there.

>I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me

What did he mean by this?

>>18152464
Who in their right mind would think that would add any merit?
The only people who merit from it are the oppressors and your enemies.

>>18152481
You cannot fight fire with fire.

>>18152469
Only one real reason:
>If the Christian faith is true, then the creator of our souls knows what is healthy,
>being loving and appreciative, not self serving is good for the soul because God says so.
Just is, I suppose. Why argue with the creator of the universe. But it all hinges on the idea that the Christian faith is true, so take of that what you will.

>>18152481
Tell that to the Jews

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>>18152482
Don't cut yourself on that old saw

>>18152481
I mean, if it's true then that means your soul is in better condition for the afterlife, and finite physical existence wouldnt really hold much of a candle to an endless spiritual one after death.

>>18152477
>You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.’ h 39But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also. 40And if anyone wants to sue you and take your shirt, hand over your coat as well. 41If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles. 42Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.
You cannot defend this.

>>18152524
How is your soul in a better condition for acting like a coward?

>>18152447
>a couple hundred pages beforehand
>slaughter your enemies and take their land
>butcher animals in the name of your god
>always obey, even murdering your firstborn if necessary
>if god destroys your life and kills your entire family thats great praise him
How are these part of the same book

>>18152472
Yep
I remember being in catholic school growing up and not understanding why everyone didn't plan on going into the clergy
If you actually believed it you would be obscenely pious

>>18152482
>t. Saddam trying to convince Marines you can't put out an oil fire with dynamite

>>18152481
Read Gulag Archipelago, and look out for the chapter called “The Ascent of the Soul.” Solz lays out the strongest argument I’ve seen for prioritizing the health of your soul over all else.

Like it or not christianity has been the most succesful philosophy at anihilating their enemies.

>>18152464
>Whether you think that adds any merit is up to you though

It's actually not. Relativism is cancer.

>>18152447
You are using an incorrect notion of 'self'.

>>18153063
Because they're not really part of the same book. The Old Testament is a collection of books written in Judea, from the Bronze Age all the way up to the rebuilding of the temple. The New Testament is a collection of books and letters written in the Roman Empire decades later, by non-Jews and heretical Jews.

The Old Testament is based in the morality of traditional Judaism. The New Testament is a incoherent mix of various religions and philosophies which were in vogue at the time.

>>18152532
Does nobody know the hidden meaning of this? It's a strategy to humiliate the romans, by behaving so flawlessly.

>>18153616
What's the hidden meaning of letting another man sleep with your wife? Is that also actually humiliating the man?

>>18153616
>by behaving so flawlessly.
I'd say behaving like a cuck is a big flaw.

>>18153274
Oh I do agree that the health of the soul is important, soul being understood as the self that's above base material concerns.
I just don't see how letting enemies trample all over you helps it.

>>18153616
Nobody knows the "hidden meaning" of this passage or even if there is any "hidden meaning" to be found. Walter Wink, the 20th century Biblical scholar and advocate for Progressive Christianity thought that it was advocating some form of non-violent resistance because non-violent resistance was his personal hobby-horse. But the fact that a person saw what they wanted to see in an ambiguous phrase is not uprising and it does not make his interpretation correct.

>>18153714
>But I tell you, do not resist an evil person.
How is this in any way ambiguous?

>>18153781
Because it's a translation of a translation of a translation of a story set in a foreign country in the past, so there's always going to be a certain amount of ambiguity.

That said, any reasonable person would come to the conclusion that Jesus is simply saying: "violence is bad, you shouldn't use violence, ever". But Christian Apologetics isn't about being rational. It's about maintaining plausible deniability.

>>18153649
Jesus is against adultery.
>>18153656
You're being anachronic here. Cuckoldism is a fetish from the 20th century.
>>18153714
I have a Bible here saying, in the comments, 38-42, "How can overcome the vengeance or even the "just" punishment? The Evangelion proposes new attitude, to end of eliminate by the root the infernal circle of violence: the resistence against the enemy should not be done with the same weapons used by him, but through behavior that disarms him."
But I also remember hearing or reading somewhere else that at those times there were laws that allowed the romans to take the jews for a mile walk or some figure like that, and all the other recommendations have correspondents, so viewed in that context it makes sense.

>>18152517
Do not murder murderers. Kill them instead

>>18153781
>But I tell you, do not resist an evil person.
Read the rest of the verse, it explains what is meant by "not resisting an evil person."

bump

>>18152447
God said it, so it's the proper path.

>>18152464
Lol at all the hateful, unhappy responses to this post. I'll pray for them and hold no illwill.

>>18152447
It's not? Seems like all that has worked wonders for leftists though, since those are precisely the tactics they employ to win conflicts.