/lit/ - Literature

>>18137974
I buy from Amazon mainly and a couple used bookstores around town.

>>18137974
It's owned by Amazon. Just buy from publishers directly.

https://www.bookfinder.com/

I pirate them because I'm not a retard or a moralfag

AbeBooks isn’t just good
It’s great.
It links you to small book stores around the world. You support small businesses and you can find virtually any book in any edition

>>18137974
They’re cheap as fuck but the shipping takes a really long time. You can be waiting for up to a month for a book without any tracking numbers either.

>>18138113
this is why I shop quite a bit on Amazon, next day is just too much, fuck this gay earth

>>18138005
thanks, good stuff anon

>>18137989
>amazon for books
But why?

>>18137989
There are many infinitely better options for books online than pic related including OP's pic, no reason to use Amazon

>>18138196
Because my local book stores don't sell books written or translated in english (for the most part). I've got to buy them from somewhere.

>>18137974
yes its good

you can scam their refund system and get free books every time.

i buy books from book depository through their page on abebooks, then when the arrive by date is passed i initiate refund and it comes through after 8 days. the whole thing is automated and no one ever finds out.

>>18138231
damn anon, that's stone cold

>>18138263
i've got around $15,000 of books doing this. i get my refund, then i sell them to a book shop near me once i read them or decide i don't want them

>>18138231
thats kinda based

>>18138273
wew

>>18138273
>$15000 of books
How long have you been doing this?

>>18138273
This is beyond based if you aren't trolling.

For me its betterworldbooks

>>18138309
since 2018

>>18138391
the best one was when i bought the entire hardcover set of rene guenon which cost around $1000, then for each one i claimed the item didn't arrive so they sent me a second copy, then i got refunded anyway, and sold the second set to a book shop

>>18138391
15k in 3 years??

>>18138410
yeah it was pretty easy, the guenon scam was worth 2k at least, plus the money i made selling them to a book shop

>>18138418
that's fucked up anon...

>>18138398
>>18138418
Why didn't you do it with good books?

>>18138431
i did it with a lot of different books besides guenon.

libgen or google

>>18138231
Does it only work with book depository or with any book seller on abebooks?

>>18137974
Book Depository has the best prices but is not such a big difference comparing with Amazon

>>18138455
book depository is the best one to do it with because they don't add tracking, so the refund will go straight through. and they have some people in africa or the middle east manning their email response centre who email you saying it was sent at at x time and it should be there any day now, but you can just ignore it and the refund will come through. with others if they add tracking then its harder because it will show when the item has been delivered. if the seller doesnt send with a tracked service then you can do it.

>>18138231
How do you initiate refund?

>>18138479
go into my purchases and choose request return/refund on the book, then from the drop down menu choose didnt arrive. in the details box just write didn't arrive, no need to explain.

>>18138471
Thanks anon. I pull the same sort of scam with thriftbooks by saying the item arrived was damaged (can't say it doesn't arrive because they have tracking), but half the time instead of a refund they send you another copy, so now I own duplicate copies of many books.
Why do you have to buy through abebooks? Does it not work with book depository's own site?

>>18138494
God bless you if it works. Also, I hope that this will not get me in prison or something.

>>18138507
there's no way they can prove it arrived without tracking. and the abebooks site rules say you're entitled to a refund if it didnt arrive.

>>18138506
bookdepository's site doesnt have the automated refund function that abebooks has. with abebooks you just click a few buttons and 8 days later you get refunded, no need to contact anyone. considereing abebooks and bookdepo are owned by a big corporation (amazon) no one is monitoring any of it or cares, so its exploitable.

>>18138533
Do you buy from 'Book Depository International' or 'The Book Depository'? Abebooks has both.

>>18138540
either of those works

>>18138507
Prisoner 1
>heh, yeah i stabed 18 people in an armed robbery thats how i lost my eye, they gave me life, i ent never getting out, what did you do kid?
Prisoner 2
>i....i claimed refunds for $20,000 worth of books....and i still kept the books...
Prisoner 1
>GUARDS!!! GUARDS GET ME OUT OF HERE, THIS MANS A FUCKING PHYCO!!!!!!!!!!!

Buy “like new” from ThriftBooks. They’re in solid condition

>>18138546
Thanks, anon.

>>18138215
Mine does, but the only place for used English books is an hour away.

>>18138558
if you do it with smaller sellers it can work but they will notice when you keep claiming books didnt arrive. with bookdepository they never notice, because as i mentioned, they have some africans or middle easterners sending canned emails but who don't care or follow up with anything. since they are big company they are getting thousands of emails every day and thousands of people claiming this and that as well as that their book didnt arrive, they don't notice you.

>>18138208
Shipping outside of America isn't going to be free generally, with Amazon it's free for spending not that much

>>18138554
>tfw Bookdepository CEO who is in for tax evasion is in the same cell block

>>18138558
also you have to wait for the estimated delivery to pass before initiating refund

>>18138601

>>18138581
And what are small sellers doing after they notice?

>>18138231
I don't really consider this morally distinct from torrenting. Can't afford to buy books all the time, and I use it to scam-refund birthday gifts I couldn't otherwise afford. BookDepository can go to hell.

>>18138581
isn't this morally wrong?

>>18138231

>>18138642
once they reported me and my account was banned.

so i created a new account and continued the scam but just didn't try to scam small sellers.

>>18137974
It's pretty good, got some nice books for cheap.
I also used Rakuten and ebay once. For some reason it was impossible to find a French edition of the complete works of Xenophon without paying at least 45 bucks, except on ebay, where I instantly found them in a nice 19th century edition for 30 bucks, delivery included.

>>18138652
no, since they are "willingly" giving me the refund.

>>18138658
Don't they keep refunds tied to your account and check them when you initiate a refund to see previous refunds and reasons?

>>18138642
Don’t do it with small sellers anon

>>18138667
it is tied to your account but no one is checking anything, thats the beauty of it. its all automated, no one is actively monitoring anything.

>>18138665
>willingly giving you a refund
maybe open some of the books you buy next time

>>18138667
give the man a break, he lives in a hobit hole, not his fault if the delivery drivers can't be arsed to drive up his road.

>>18138665
I mean yeah, but they are doing so in good faith that your grievance is accurate

it's up to you what you do, I don't know if I would is all

Don’t you have to provide a signature when you collect the package?

>>18138715
well there isn't really any 'they'. its just a system that's been set up to run automatically depending on certain inputs you just click a few buttons and you get your money back. no one is monitoring it.

>>18138725
no, if it is sent without tracking.

>>18138728
They who commissioned the system

>>18138734
some indian coder who made the website for $2 an hour

>>18137974
I just ordered a book from them right now. I wanted to pay through PayPal, but they changed the price when I was about to pay. Rude. I’m not sure how to reject paying them.

Let's be honest guys, stealing books isn't going to make you rich and is also morally wrong, it isn't worth it.

>>18138761
buy a book for $10, after recieving it i notice the old price $0.95, erm i think we're the ones being robbed here.

>>18138761
most people here don't have much money and if we can save money by getting books for free then its to our benefit. jeff bezos is the richest man on earth, i don't think he needs my $25

>>18138782
Abebooks is a middleman for actual bookstores. Bezos gets a cut, but you're largely scamming regular people to save a few shekels.

>>18138231
>>18138398
Here you are cheating them while I get cheated by them. Some people just weren’t lucky enough to be born with a stone cold heart.

>>18138803
bezos owns bookdepository

>>18137974
Well "/lit/" is a honeypot so... I guess the library?

>>18138809
And hasn't been so bad has it?

>>18138813
hahaha no anon, you can tell us where you get all those expensive books from! You wouldn't be paying full, fair market price like a sucker now, would you?

post the address anon!

>>18138813
But that's one too,
Electric Boogaloo.

Still here we are, both of us lonely
Both of us lonely

We've got tonight, who needs tomorrow?
Let's make it last, let's find a way
Turn out the light, come take my hand now
We've got tonight babe
Why don't you stay?
Why don't you stay?

>>18138231
I don’t understand how they haven’t noticed that a certain someone always asks for a refund yet they keep ordering. Don’t they have someone checking up on this shit?

>>18138831
I put it in the useful pot right next to the blasted baloon

>>18138761
>won’t someone think of the HECKIN BILLIONAIRINOS

>>18138761
Stay off 4chan Mr Bezos

>>18138533
Would it be better to use paypal or credit card in such a case? Which one is more easier for them to refund through?

>>18137974
by using thriftbooks i get books essentially for free. Just order the book, and once it arrives write the customer support line saying something like “hey there’s markings all over the margins, im a long time customer and feel slighted by this” and they’ll usually refund you in full, no questions asked. Sometimes, though it’s rare, they will send you another copy of the book instead of a refund. i’ve “bought” tons of books off there and payed for only a few

>>18138999
My experience is they send you another copy more often than they give you a refund.

>>18138866
>blasted baloon

>>18139032
i’ve found that you can sort of predict which will have surplus copies. A more recent penguin edition of dickens is more likely to get you another copy than an older copy of john barth. Always look for editions that only have 1 copy available also.

>>18138982
Credit card is what I use

>>18138858
Read the rest of the thread

>>18139299
I think it's rhetorical anon

>Don't want to use amazon to buy books
>literally ever other site has a long ass wait time or high shipping costs or both
>go to amazon next day delivery and free shipping
I don't like that bald jew but amazon is the best option most of the time

>amazon good because muh fast delivery
try ordering a foreign book from there

>>18139655
I only read English mate, nun tha euro or paki pish

>>18139655
>amazon good because muh fast delivery
yes
>try ordering a foreign book from there
I'm American I don't have this problem

>>18139666
Based lad.

>>18139666

So much anons complaining about BookDepository. I have been buying books from them since 2009 and have never had any issue. I've built my own library using their service. I guess it works better in some countries than others.

Aside of that online bookstore, I have also bought from eBay to specific sellers and in local libraries (although I avoid doing this because of the 19% tax over books).

>>18139666
Checked devil anglo

>>18139666
diablo blanco

>>18137974
ALIBRIS
ALIBRIS
ALIBRIS

>>18138010
Do you bind your own books?

>>18141111
QUADS OF TRUTH
ALIBRIS
IS
INDIE
FUCK
AMAZON

https://www.hamiltonbook.com/

Or Amazon.

>>18138196
Amazon is used as a marketplace for a lot of used book sellers so can see all their listings in one place.

I also check on secondsale.com, they sometimes have better deals.

>>18138113
The wait makes buying books way more fun honestly. It’s really special to open up a book you’ve been waiting for.

>>18141914
I agree. I found out about Mishima around 2005 and didn't get one of his books until Haruki Murakami made Japanese lit popular enough that his, and many others, books are now findable in used bookstores.

I bought (pic) when I was in high school and have slowly been collecting shit that it recommends. (I'm a newfag here so it was my main source for finding out about books; it's actually great if you can find a used copy of it somewhere (I think it's been out of print for a long time)).

Shipping prices have gone up in most places.

When i started collecting for my home library I could still get a hardbacks for 3$ and a a paperback for cent or even free. Now days 5$ is a rarity and 9$ is the norm.
Im extremely glad that i managed to get the bulk of my collection back when it was still cheep and these days i mostly buy sets or individual volumes where the sipping price is the least of the costs.

>>18138858
just tell them you live in a shitty neighborhood and your mail gets stolen
this token black dude i knew used to do this to get free rental games in the mail

>>18138382
this guy knows what’s up

>>18138761
If I can't win the game I'll exploit it instead

>>18137974
They are going to shit. Order I did last week, both US sellers, both turned out to in the UK actually, just supposedly have a warehouse in the US but after they shipped turns out they came from UK and a little research shows all their sales actually ship from the UK, just have a front so they can pretend to be US sellers so the books will take awhile to get here. Previous order refunded after a week even though they had marked it shipped the next day. Order before that, turns out they just bought it from a HPB listing and had it shipped to me. Order before that, refunded after waiting a week and it already being marked shipped the next day. Pretty sure I am done with them.

I mostly buy academic books, (mainly music theory and composition) from them which are on the pricey side and most sellers seem to price even used copies at just a few dollars under list price, wow save $3 on a $150 book!

Oh, also ordered a copy of The Cambridge History of Western Music Theory recently, turned out to be a cheap print on demand, seller bought/pirated the ebook. Got my money back on that one and that seller seems gone now.

>>18138581
Is it possible on the bookdepositry website or only on abebooks?

>>18137974

It's all right, I haven't been disappointed. I use it as a backup resource. Currently I have a book theoretically coming in from Germany.

The best was when a reprint of an art book I've really really really wanted for years was brand new, at much lower price. I nabbed it from there and again took many weeks to cross the pond, but it finally came whereas the other solution refunded my money because someone else pounced earlier or something. Hnng, commodity fetish.

thriftbooks is independent and can have DIRT cheap prices and a nice free shipping perk, but be prepared to wait like a month for the books, and they come individually, and sometimes in the wrong edition. often they are WAY worse in condition too. still its a good deal. generally I'll use the library but they've gone full cuck mode in covid, quarantining books (!), massive times, browsing limits. I just canceled amazon prime since i'm sick of using FAGMAN but books can be hard to find outside of there

>>18137974
Better than eBay for finding used books. I dont really give a fuck that Bezos pays bare minimum wages, those niggers deserve it for denting my books half the time

>>18139666
basado diabolo ingles

2nd hand and booktopia

>>18142691
Only on abebooks

>>18138652
why tf should anyone care about globo homo corporations getting scammed by consumers?
both abebooks and bookdepository are owned by amazon btw

>>18143038
I don't that stealing from your enemies is a good thing, basically you just behave like them.

>>18143106
I don't care what kind of naive high school morals you personally oblige to, I won't give corporations my college student money to get books. Pirating and buying from small stores is the most ethical thing you can do nowadays. You're the one being amoral when you buy from amazon. Fuck Bezos and his goons.

>>18138231
Holy shit I could do this with loeb classical editions

>>18143224
>Pirating and buying from small stores is the most ethical thing you can do nowaday
lmao

>>18143224
Your "fuck the corporations man" whining is high school tier morality. Abe simply provides a good service. It would have taken me a lifetime to find some of the out of print books I bought on there if I had to search through stores in person. Plus they benefit small bookstores by giving them access to a way bigger online market

>>18143299
>supports monopoly because he's too stupid to find books himself
damn anon, gotta say that's embarrassing.
Just so you know there are more effective (and non-profit) ways to find books than searching through the amazon-owned platforms (e.g. bookfinder.com). You don't have to actually go to physical stores to search for a book. Are you living under a rock?
There's no excuse to buy from Amazon unless it is the only place that sells the stuff that you want.

>>18137974
Oxfam books