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18127418 No.18127418 [Reply] [Original]

I think the strangest thing about the idea of there just being no aliens out there is that its perfectly plausible. Phosphorous is very rare, we have a gargantuan amount of it, and it's essential for carbon-based life, which we're now realizing through chemical analysis is basically the only chemical that complex life could arise from. The more you run the numbers, the more likely it is that there's way less life than we initially thought out there, and that's just with the assumptions we know now. Every passing year the Drake Equation's odds shrink, since we're just gradually filling in the blanks, and realizing life is getting pretty absurdly improbable in most places, including Earth itself. Only billions of years ago, where the few bodies of water on Earth had 1 phosphate part for 10 water parts could life feasibly arise. Now it's not even a millionth of that in the ocean.

Anyone here read Dune? You ever notice how aliens are such a minor footnote in that series? They're never confirmed to exist and the closest things we have to them in that fictional universe are just humans that went down different evolutionary paths and artificial intelligences. Chances are that its probably true, at least in the Milky Way at this point. The galaxies are already drifting away from each other as fast as the speed of light, so unless somehow a spacefaring species cracks the speed of causality there's no way that we'll see alien life.

I think I love the hypothetical discussions surrounding aliens, because it provides a mirror to look at ourselves within. If there is a creator though, it didn't want that seemingly. Humanity will just be defined by itself in the millennia to come and we got trillions of years to do it, if we keep this civilization going.

Keep your head up, you are fucking special, and you're a blip in this cold bitch of a reality, Make the most of it, since we have no clue if life will ever have this chance again.

>> No.18127433
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>>18127418
Too long didn't read it

>> No.18127438

We're never gonna leave the solar system lol

>> No.18127443

>>18127418
Nigga, if you want to look at alien consciousness, go on a walk with your dog.

>> No.18127454

>>18127418
I don't care if we are alone as long as I can find true love

>> No.18127469

>>18127438
100 years ago we'd never leave the planet
200 years ago we'd never leave the ground

>> No.18127476

>Oh me! Oh life! of the questions of these recurring,
>Of the endless trains of the faithless, of cities fill’d with the foolish,
>Of myself forever reproaching myself, (for who more foolish than I, and who more faithless?)
>Of eyes that vainly crave the light, of the objects mean, of the struggle ever renew’d,
>Of the poor results of all, of the plodding and sordid crowds I see around me,
>Of the empty and useless years of the rest, with the rest me intertwined,
>The question, O me! so sad, recurring—What good amid these, O me, O life?

>Answer.
>That you are here—that life exists and identity,
>That the powerful play goes on, and you may contribute a verse
Nice blogpost faggot, Whitman said it better

>> No.18127896

>>18127469
Leaving solar system is a huge milestone we are unlikely to do. Distance between Pluto and earth is pretty huge. Unless of course we can travel with a speed of light or maybe if we can create a wormhole. Both will require enormous amount of energy we are unlikely to achieve.
We are more likely to get wiped out of existence.

>> No.18127941

>>18127896
You aren't taking astral projection into consideration, anon.

>> No.18128406

>>18127418
God is real.

>> No.18128456

We're the first, or possibly the last.

>> No.18128534

>>18127418
>he thinks the mayans were human
Anon I...

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>>18127418
Just bc we can't see them doesn't mean they aren't seeing us. I find it highly unlikely that this all happened by random mutations. I feel like this is some form of experiment probably.

>>18128406
I dont see how there would be a function distinction between angels and super advanced aliens.

>>18127454
Sigh. Pic rel. Really though what does it matter? Isn't all we can do try to live the best we can?

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>>18127469
>100 years ago we'd never leave the planet
>200 years ago we'd never leave the ground

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>>18128584
>Don't mention scientific developmentrinoooos, it hurts my feelingrinoooooooos

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>>18128591
>I BELIEVE IN SCIENCE
>SCIENCE IS MY DOCTRINE
>I TRUST MY GOVERNMENT TO BE 100% TRUTHFUL AND NOT TRY TO STIR UP FAKE ALIEN SCARES

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>>18128603
Yes.

>> No.18128620

I've heard serious commentators saying something like 'we are 8-10 Einsteins away from knowing shit'. Probably more.

>> No.18128622

>>18128603
>my old jew bookerino told me about stuff. that's the way, magic!

>> No.18128635

>>18127418
What about those giant ultra lifeforms that are swallowing galaxies? Do those classify as life? Or are they too big and complex for you to understand and qualify as life?

>> No.18128654

>>18128635
Links/sources please?

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>>18128654
I'm talking about Black Holes.

>> No.18128666

>>18127418
Aren't silica(not sure about the element) based lifeforms also possible?

>> No.18129039

LOL do you seriously consider the fact that Dune doesnt mention aliens as proof that they dont exist and that none will be found in the future? because it sure seems like that.

>> No.18129185

Aren't the sandworms aliens in dune?

>> No.18129191

>>18128635
What are these things you speak of

>> No.18129208

>>18127418
comfy post

>> No.18129985

any book with that feel

>> No.18130043

>>18127418
Who cares. There is nothing more important than other people

>> No.18130574

>>18128654
>>18129191
you know, Them.

>> No.18130594

>>18127418
Aliens is a materialist cope. They obviously don’t exist. Any “aliens” that showed up on Earth would be demons or fallen angels. Earth is the only planet with life on it. Pick up your bible

>> No.18131875

>>18127418
>I think I love the hypothetical discussions surrounding aliens, because it provides a mirror to look at ourselves within.
im so sick of ourselves bros... i just wanna see an alien ;(

>> No.18131904

>>18127418
>Every passing year the Drake Equation's odds shrink
Where did you get this idea from, if anything it increases.

>> No.18133518

>>18129039

Uh it clearly doesn't prove that moron, it proves that there are sandworms but only on one planet. What are the odds of us finding the one planet that has them? Pretty low because as Dune made clear you need the spice first to do space travel, so how are we ever even supposed to leave the solar system? We're stuck here and thus we will never find aliens unless they discover the planet with sandworms and come here first. Pretty unlikely desu.

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>>18127418
UFOs exist anon, full disclosure soonTM

>> No.18133867

>>18127433
this is why Aliens won’t visit us...

>> No.18133876

>>18133569
That's prob a USAF drone that'll be used against china in the coming war.