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>>18090039
Strictly speaking, "fascism" is a catchall term for right-wing ideology. I haven't read that much about it, but I imagine that any books about national socialism include it under an umbrella of fascism.

>>18090039
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdY_IMZH2Ko
this is a video about that

The essence of Fascism in a nation is entirely contingent on the people of that nation. Something people far too often fixate upon is the accidental features of Fascism (its aesthetics for example) rather than examining the individual principles that arise organically from the folk. Simply put, National Socialism is the organic form of "fascism" for the German folk, however one might argue that like fascism, National Socialism transcends its German ethos to truly apply to all peoples (yet it will necessarily vary and correspond to the nation/race in which it finds its life and movement). See "Doctrine of Fascism" for a classical, Italian understanding of fascism, see "Fascism for the Millions" by Oswald Mosley for Anglo-Fascism, and best option to learn more about the ideology and policies of the Third Reich is "Hitler's Revolution" by Richard Tedor, or of course Mein Kamph by Uncle Addy but also "the Platform of the NSDAP" by Gottfried Feder (I own all these bad boys). Look into it, National Socialism may not be a functioning political force in the world, but its principles are alive and applicable in everyday life. One need not even look to such reading material to learn about these subjects, National Socialism and Fascism are not practices of scholasticism, they are innately known and contained within the vessel of your soul and flesh, communicating the life of your people through you yourself this very day.

>>18090596
But neither of them are "right-wing" desu.
That's why they're called Third position.

>>18090596
Wrong. Fascism is the import of the British class system into continental Europe, with the introduction of concepts such as the military industrial complex and British orientalism, rationalism, and empiricism. It is very distinct from ancien regime “traditionalist” rightism or the Prussian and Thermidorian reaction. It is the import of British metaphysics to Germany Italy and Spain and is the disgrace of Europe.

>>18090039
This will be a shit thread so stop reading after my post, but Fascism is any right wing ideology and covers the gamut of National Socialism to Iron Guard to Italian Fascism to anything. National Socialism is specifically German fascism. Fascism is not the same in any two places and often takes a different form. In 1921 when Mussolini inherited Italy he had to balance the budget and undertook massive privatization in order to unfuck the nation's debt. After 1925 when he successfully balanced Italy's budget he moved back towards nationalization of businesses, reaching the 2nd highest level of nationalized businesses behind the soviet union at that point, something like at least 70% or higher of the companies in Italy had been nationalized. This is not necessarily similar to National Socialism in which many companies stayed privatized. Fascism has no core principles beyond a belief in hierarchies and a pride in one's nation/people, the black man's fascism is not the white man's fascism. I hope this has been illustrative for you and that you can now tell the difference between "fascism" and "national socialism". >>18090613 also a good post.

>>18090613
>One need not even look to such reading material to learn about these subjects, National Socialism and Fascism are not practices of scholasticism
wrong. look no further than the support it received from British liberalism and the Austrian school which imported and justified the British class system. Wherever there is Anglo modernity there is fascism.

>>18090039
Am I wrong in just thinking NS is German Fascism? Like the Falange were Spanish Fascists and the BUF British Fascists, etc.?

>>18090646
You’re completely correct. The only reason Nazism has any distinct characteristics is because of the relevance of semites in Germany, which Anglo modernists viewed as an importer of Eastern modernity, which runs contrary to the Atlanticist unipolar world order. The Nazi form of anti-semitism is distinctly Orientalist.

>>18090596
>fascism" is a catchall term for right-wing ideology
It’s not at all. Fascism is in no way “right wing” in the way it’s used today, implying either traditionalist conservatism or capitalism, of which Fascism is against both.

>>18090668
You’re right about tradtionalism, but Fascism is not opposed to the British class system or what you call capitalism. it is the import British metaphysics into Germany Italy and Spain a la Privatisierung and “liberal dictatorship” contras against the East.

>>18090683
>British class system or what you call capitalism
How are they the same? What you’re saying sounds like it’s coming from Dugin. Could you explain further?

>>18090627
Class is an inevitable construct, quite a productive one when pride and loyalty to one's cast is encouraged, and in such a case class is conducive to feelings of belonging when there is a trancendental, higher principle by which all n a society, of any class derive their purpose (this would be the higher principle of race/folk, the natural extension of oneself and one's family). Class is not something Anglo or continental, it is a natural force ever present throughout history in all civilations (the orders of the patricians/optimates and the plebeians/populares in Rome that go back all the way to the age of its sacral kingship, the ancient orders of society in the Greek Poleis, the foundational castes of Japanese society, the necessary classes of the feudal and manorial systems). Fascism and National Socialism are inherently modern in that they are a natural reaction against the extremity of decline experienced post enlightement/liberalism, but although modern they are still the best vehicles for the expression of the ancient and traditional ideals of governance and power. If you have examined any fascist/nat-soc ideology you will see that they are reflections of the spiritual inclinations of a people in the sphere of political power, not some anglo interference. Im way yo tired to write this so whatever, also thanks >>18090626

>>18090690
Britain’s class system is distinct in its view of “‘natural law” as something formally definite and inert, positing panopticon and planning as pertinent to the issue of pauperism. The claim that the time of privilege was over, once a system of democracy and rational choice had been installed, does not stand up to the (authentically) German critique. the multiplicity of life, in its plurality of experience, is not reducible to rational empiricist “choice”. The chapter of utilitarian planning is coming to a close, and Fascism was but one extension of this empiricist, utilitarian, Malthusian view of the universe as a zero-sum head-death.
It’s not just about Dugin. there’s Heidegger, Nick Land, Hegel, Marx and Kantbot in here as well
>>18090693
You’re conflating class with status. How arrogant to assume that the negation of British “class” means the absence of hierarchy and status. You accept the preconceived notion that British “class” is the Universal class system. it’s an Olympic leap thats only privy to the inductivist empricist. This is why anarchists and fascists are the same.

>>18090039
Fascism is the ideology of Mussolini, national socialism is the ideology of Hitler. That might sound simplistic, but it's really the only way to explain the difference that makes sense.

From what I've read Mussolini wasn't racist and said that race doesn't exist or something like that.
Economy was similar I guess? Not sure tho, I don't know anything about economics.

>>18090613
>National Socialism may not be a functioning political force in the world, but its principles are alive and applicable in everyday life

In what way are the principles applicable?

not very knowledgeable about generic fascists specifically, how did fascist social programs compare to those of Germany? also, was there an Italian workers guild or some sort of equivalent?

>>18090613
the aestetic isn't an accessory of fascism tho, fascism is first and foremost an aestetic movement rather than an ideological one.

>>18090693
>Class is an inevitable construct, quite a productive one when pride and loyalty to one's cast is encouraged, and in such a case class is conducive to feelings of belonging
The fact that alt-right types with comfy office jobs have been so easily terrorized into submission and don't want to openly express their views at the cost of their class position in society means this is more true than you know.

>>18090754
>This is why anarchists and fascists are the same.
This is also true.

>>18090621
>muh ebil anglo
Your brain on trannypol

>>18090613
Missing For my legionnaires for the best type of fascism: Christian fascism

>>18090626
>Fascism is any right wing ideology
Conservatives in a liberal democracy are fascists? Monarchists are fascists? No!

>>18090039
Italian Fascism didn't believe in racial theory; the only reason any semite or race policies were put in place was because of pressure from Germany.

>>18092596
Stop posting about politics

>>18091636
cultivate a sense of community to support you and yours, when one looks at the tenets of the Amish, they share some common, essential qualities with National Socialism. If you believe it is impossible to communicate your power through the love of your own people, you've been filtered out. Eventually people in the west are going to have to adopt a practice of lebensraum, living space, and move to make racial communes in third world areas like south america and eastern europe just to avoid the brown hoards. That is the longterm, but short term is even just the practice of belief, first comes the assent and then the actualization. Even if the actualization is not yet possible, perform the intellectual assent

>>18090039
Basically Hitler took a novel idea that pastaniggers had and made it good. Today brainlets try and say that adding racial ideas ruined it, somehow thinking that they can make fascism appealing to liberals (this will never work)