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>>18078765
>he’s already said he will nominate right-wingers
Stunning insight, I thought republican presidents nominated Ginsberg

>>18078765
>>leftist Will to Power takes hold
>liberals
>leftist
Lol, k, keep me posted. The left has already lost several major battles, including 15 dollar minimum wage and infrastructure. All you're getting now is liberal identity politics, bread and circuses.

>>18078790
The man couldn't even nominate loyalists to help him win re-election this entire thread is retarded.

>>18078792
15 dollar min wage is an Amazon psy op pushed by the well-jugged amazon-shill and libtard AOC

you're a lib

>>18078792
ah yes the good old 'actually they're not leftists, but liberals' argument. the 'no true scotsman' of online 'discourse'

>The arc of history is long but it bends toward the left
This is called entropy: The decline into chaos and disorder

>>18078822
yes. i never denied this. the most pervasive delusion that both leftist cucks and rightist cucks have is that things will, or even CAN get better still.

>>18078790
Less of a non-statement than you'd think. It's not like Trump is a traditional conservative himself.
Shouldn't this thread be on >>>/his/ or something?

Oh look,another /b/ tier politics thread

>>18078765
>leftist Will to Power
A contradiction in terms, leftists resent powerful people and their ideology is based on resentment

>>18078819
Yes, there is a real distinction between a liberal and a leftist.

>>18078765
Supreme Court is originalist and that cop was judged by people from a city.

>>18078877
reread your Nietzsche, buddy

>letting Trump AND "rightists" live in you head still

Yiiiiiiiiikes.

>>18078819
Even old school marxists themselves say it. Or do you truly think more POC wall street bankers is a leftist idea?

>>18078903
I did. Did you?

>>18078879
i know, but people like you call everything liberal and no one is a true leftist in your eyes. fucking fag

>>18078877
for Nietzsche everything, ressentment included, is a part of will to power. Ressentment and slave morality are unique for him, since in this case powerless are those who seek power, in cunning ways of course.

>>18078879
Not him, but I think the distinction is increasingly muddled nowadays. With liberals embracing critical race theory, they're crossing over into traditionally leftist theory and bringing it to the mainstream. Many of the "leftists" I'm friends with claim to reject identity politics in favor of traditional class conciousness, but I suspect that's mostly posturing and attempting to distinguish themselves from the liberal mainstream. When push comes to shove, liberals and leftists will ultimately agree on the same points and pursue the same political agenda, albeit their pace and methods will differ. Is it wrong to compare American liberals to Mensheviks and American leftists to Bolsheviks? I'm just thinking out loud here. Curious to hear others' thoughts on this.

>>18078925
this does not mean that the weak, the resentful or whatever can't demonstrate the Will to Power. maybe actually read Nietzsches books instead of AZQuotes

>>18078818
Amazon is pro worker

>>18078931
But I don't.
There is nothing leftist about Nike promoting BLM and le women in advertising.

>>18078943
Rightoids can't read

>>18078937
I think we should replace liberal/left/right distinctions with pro status quo and anti status quo. When it comes to the left in particular, I thtink that after the collapse of soviet union they struggle to legitimize their own position in any meaningful way so they are too eager to fight under the banner of idpol and other class unrelated struggles. Its their condition of existing. I think thats why the distinctions become blurred between liberals and leftists. And thats why its not operative anymore to appeal to them.

>>18078959
i never said that it was leftism, but the fact that nike is posturing like this, is a result of actual leftist Will to Power. I mean which one of us is conflating leftism and liberalism here?

Reading this thread I have to ask why do Americans think the entire world revolves around them? That they are living history and no other country matters in the grand scheme of the world? The reality of your situation is that you are about to lose your place as the rank 1 economy and when that happens you will be forced to either switch to a robotic workforce or reduce wages massively to stay competitive, either one of these will massively increase poverty and unemployment half your population will be rendered useless after the 3rd technological revolution, unless of course you have developed some new weapons system which supersedes ABC warfare and you plan on taking out all economic opponents.

The narcissism displayed in some of these replies staggers me, it's almost as if some of you believe that 200 years from now history classes worldwide will be talking about US history from 2010-2030.

Can someone explain this mentality to me? Is it just a longing to win and be remembered causing a form of psychosis?

The cumulative IQ points ITT is in the double digits

>>18079012
Many Americans are too emotionally invested to see what is blatantly obvious to the rest of the world. They're fucked and realistically there's no escape for them now. Jamal will not save you.

>>18079012
While I despise America, don't you realize they have military bases spread across the world? Europe is not really independent from America's will. America also has CIA operatives in practically every country.
Never throughout history has there been a global power with the raw power of America. I do despise America because I think its values and social movements are disgusting and obviously manufactured by Machiavellian think thanks and social engineers.

>>18079148
>global power
superpower*

>>18078765
>leftists and blm will win in america
Yes they will. And it will not be a good thing.

>>18079148
They can't do anything against their actual economic enemies so none of that matters. Having military bases does not matter when you either have to reduce wages or increase unemployment.

>>18078959
>There's nothing leftist about the most powerful entities in society using their influence to force the norms of social spaces to shift to the left

>>18079012
Racism, sexism and other forms of identity politics are so strong here in america that the capitalists, majority stockholders, boards of executives and so on will be able to use those to divide and rule us forever. Literally until the united states falls apart.

It's like the many games of civilization and rpgs have taught me: divide and conquer. So long as us regular folks who are fucked over by losing our jobs are divided against one another, nothing will ever fundamental change for the better.

>>18078765
Trump was a response to the left wing paradigm shift that’s been happening for half a century in america

>>18079210
Identity politics is not left wing

>>18079278
Leftist identity politics are left wing.

>>18079286
leftist identities (workers) are suppressed under liberal identities (gayniggers from outer space) by way of "class reductionism"

>>18079012
OP here, I'm german. The answer is this: America is the leading society culturally (for the moment) What they do today, other countries will do a few years afterwards

>>18079023
mine is D in roman numerals

>>18079012

Projecting pretty hard here anon
I'm sorry everybody wants to talk about the US and not the country you live in but this probably means that you are lucky and have no room to be complaining

>>18079206
It just comes down to who has the better surveillance technologies and weapons. America *is* Amazon, Microsoft, and Google. There is no America outside of these.
I think China can surpass America especially with its breakthrough in memristor technology, which can have tremendous impact on the future of computing and thus create more advanced surveillance technologies with more energy-efficient IoT. America is following suit and has created conditions to follow China's model to amp up surveillance technologies (e.g., Azure and AWS data centers are spreading even more now).
>reduce wages or increase unemployment.
America's "strength", which I consider stemming from evil (though China is not much better), surpasses the need of its own people. That's why global elite like World Economic Forum and more center their attention on America.
Also, I agree with a lot of "conspiracies" on the vaccine. I think it's being done to make people sicker since the future world order won't require working class as it exists now. Furthermore, house prices will rise to the point where a sharing economy will be pushed more, which I suspect is why polyamory is being pushed more than monogamy now (i.e., sharing of partners --> sharing of households, products, etc.)

>>18079371
My iq MCCCXXIV
M A G A

>>18078765
>and so on
Transcribing this is like transcribing *sniff*

>>18078765
>murderer recorded murdering is sentenced
Really? This is it?

>>18078765
For me, it’s the McChicken. The best fast food sandwich. I even ask for extra McChicken sauce packets and the staff is so friendly and more than willing to oblige.

One time I asked for McChicken sauce packets and they gave me three. I said, “Wow, three for free!” and the nice friendly McDonald’s worker laughed and said, “I’m going to call you 3-for-free!”.

Now the staff greets me with “hey it’s 3-for-free!” and ALWAYS give me three packets. It’s such a fun and cool atmosphere at my local McDonald’s restaurant, I go there at least 3 times a week for lunch and a large iced coffee with milk instead of cream, 1-2 times for breakfast on the weekend, and maybe once for dinner when I’m in a rush but want a great meal that is affordable, fast, and can match my daily nutritional needs.

>>18078765
accelerationists have always been correct

>>18078765
Are you claiming Biden the Woke Neocon as a 'Leftist' win lmao

I guess anarcho-tyranny is pretty leftist though

>>18080746
no you stupid retard. If i did, don't you think I'd have made this thread on jan 20th instead of after chauvin got convicted? kys

>>18080798
I forgot the central tenet of Leftism 'make it illegal for white people to arrest or defend themselves against black people', this will surely usher in the proletarian revolution, rather than restricting public safety to people who can afford private security.

>>18078792
Most Marxists would agree with you.

>>18079415
>It just comes down to who has the better surveillance technologies and weapons. America *is* Amazon, Microsoft, and Google. There is no America outside of these.
This will never be true no matter how much you want it to be. 2016 showed that. People would rather burn it down than serve corporations.

>>18080834
>no matter how much you want it to be
I don't want it to be true. If you had good reading comprehension, you would be able to tell I consider this all evil.
>People would rather burn it down than serve corporation
We're already serving corporations, sadly. Think tanks work in close coordination with multinational corporations and write much of foreign and domestic policy in advanced. Elected politicians are just actors.
Someone like Sheldon Adelson was more powerful than Trump. A lot of these multibillionaires are involved in shady activities like working for Mossad too (e.g., Larry Ellison).

>>18080813
>defending yourself against a cuffed man on the ground
and that's exactly how i know that all the rightist posturing along the lines of 'leftism weak and girly, rightism strong and manly' is a bunch of bullshit. also the fact that you single out black people. it might surprise you to learn that i object to the killings of white people by police as well. I'm not as much pro black as i am anti government

>>18078948
It absolutely is not.

>>18079210
Your just describing an ideological state apparatus.

>>18080904
Do you understand the concepts of reasonable doubt and presumption of innocence? Do you understand how the lack of any physical evidence of strangling combined with the drug toxicology and the condition of his heart relate to those concepts?

>>18080904
Two other points of dishonesty in your post: you say 'defending' when my post clearly also mentioned arrests, and you act as if I am the one making the narrative about white on black brutality, rather than responding to that clearly already existing narrative.

>>18080901
I don't disagree. I just stubbornly refuse to identify a nation with its businesses.
A nation exists in its people.

>>18081010
After the 40s or 50s, American oligarchs did their best to destroy communal culture and integrity. It started gradually at first, but then it culminated with influx of non-white immigrants, giving blacks social mobility, growing tentacles of businesses, and more. I would say they were largely successful. America is now a big labyrinth of interconnected factories.
This pattern is happening in most Western European countries too. For example, Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP will destroy Scotland's cultural integrity and way of life.

>>18081010
>>18081054
To make my point clearer, Rockefeller's backed feminism, and the land for UN was also donated by them.
Families like Rockefeller's are more powerful than actual elected officials. Republic styled governance does not work in the long-run because you eventually get wealthy puppeteers in the background who only care for their own interests.

>>18079012
>Reading this thread I have to ask why do Americans think the entire world revolves around them?
I've lived my entire life in the United States, that is what I'm personally revolving around. I care deeply about what happens to my nation because I'm in it, not out of any sense of historical grandeur.
I don't really know too much about the modern politics of other nations, at least not enough to comment on them in any intelligent way.
>it's almost as if some of you believe that 200 years from now history classes worldwide will be talking about US history from 2010-2030.
Obviously it won't be that specific of a time frame, but the ascendance of China over the Western powers will be kind of a big deal and the US is front and center for that.