/lit/ - Literature

>>18076170
Complete grifter
He never ousts his tribe when talking about the positions they hold (media, academia, government, etc.) while giving it the gay little name of the Cathedral.
Passages like these
>Do you know what women who actually want to help other women learn programming look like? They look like this. Sexist, check. Probably illegal, check. Recognizing that women are different from men in more areas than the chest compartment, check. (“Men’s rights” activists, shut the fsck up! If you were real men and not communist pussies, you’d know that no one has any rights, least of all you. Only one thing makes right—that would be, of course, might—and whining that you’re taking it in the tail, though taking it in the tail you are, is anything but a way to create that.)
only serve to confirm that this miscreant is just boiling with seethe that his fellow tribesmen haven't secured him a position higher up in "the Cathedral" and that he has to content himself with writing faux-redpilling articles to a gentile crowd.
Almost makes me think physiognomy is real

>>18076170
>Since 2016, the entire online counterculture has either been banned or shadow banned.
Good riddance, it should’ve happened sooner. No place for hatred in our liberal multicultural society.

>>18076176
This but unironically.

>>18076170
>>Our current system is neither capitalist nor communist, but rather, Managerial.
What? Seems pretty capitalist to me. I suppose Moldbug is pretty influenced by libertarians who think capitalism is when muh free market as if that has ever existed though, so it’s no surprise he thinks that.

>>18076197
even in the late 19th century it was a lot more capitalist

>>18076202
Yes but capital kept consolidating. “Managerial” capitalism is just the most recent evolution and not some totally different thing.

>>18076215
>capital kept consolidating.
Well no, the state created the federal reserve and a bunch of not very capitalist tax and regulation policies

>>18076170
>What we know the Cathedral is so far:
>The Cathedral is a global Masonic network
god shut up shut up shut UP i'm so fucking sick of you people

>>18076221
>Well no, the state created the federal reserve
Yeah at the behest of a bunch of big bankers because we live under capitalist rule.
>and a bunch of not very capitalist tax and regulation policies
What? State intervention has literally always happened. Lolbert mentality that there was some mystical “free market” in the past is dumb as fuck.

>>18076234
Central banks are not some necessary component of wage labor, private property, and trade, neither are those specific taxes and regulations. It was not a 'mystical' free market, I just said it actually existed and promoted capitalist enterprise.

I don't know what 'capitalist rule' means to you, but the federal reserve is a scam by bankers and the state.

>>18076170
>The entrenched bureaucracy was willing to do anything and everything to get Trump out of office
I wouldn’t quite frame it this way. Many right wingers emphasize how 2020 revealed the cathedral’s crimes and now normies will “wake up.” I disagree. The cathedral was able to dispose of trump pretty handily. The majority of people continue following the system the same way they did before. The dissolution of public support for the cathedral will be a gradual process.

>>18076197
It's not the same capitalism of the early 20th century. Technology has mostly rendered ideology irrelevant as a means of organizing society and legitimizing power. We live in Control Societies where access to everything from money to toilets is contingent on ones obedience to those in institutional power. Most, obedience to those who control education, media, and finance. This is why those in power have almost primarily to using human mass psychology as a means to controlling populations along with technology and have mostly abandoned formal politics and appeals to individual human beings.
Our managerial system does this in two primary ways:
By using institutions to artificially create mass identity groups.
And b: defining the function those identity groups serve, irrespective of their individual distinctions.
Notice how there are no more German-Americans, Italian-Americans, or Irish Americans in American politics. Ethnic groups with their own cultures, backgrounds, and unique tastes run counter to the efficiency of managerial systems. Those ethnicities have been absorbed into the system under the generic descriptor "white" and their purpose within the society and the managerial system is mostly assigned to them by the educational and politic institutions of our society, irrespective of their countries of origin.
Notice how this same thing is being attempted to be done with "Latinos". A nebulous descriptor which doesn't describe an actual group of people, but rather, a group of people the managerial system wishes to manufacture in order to assign a role to them in the system.

>>18076233
It literally is, though, dumb dumb. The intelligence and financial powers of the world are mostly run by the masonic orders.

The cathedral? more like synagogue

>>18076262
did the Masons tell you this at the meeting last night

>>18076271
This is just cope. Anyone who denies the masons largely run the major institutions of our world are clueless. They were behind everything from the American and French revolutions, to the creation of the UN. All of the values of this international system are enlightenment-era masonic values.

>>18076262
Can you please give me some evidence for this, even shaky evidence? Or even link me to a source or tell me who to ask for sources? I really want to know any argument why this isn't retarded

>>18076176

I don't think you understand what the word "liberal" means m8. Maybe try reading some books?

>>18076276
How do you know this

>>18076303
Literally Google the people responsible for creating oyr current international system. Like Woodrow Wilson.

>>18076317
>Literally Google the
thank you for your time

>>18076336
Dilate

>>18076353
He's just coping, is all

>>18076380
Actually I'm failing to cope but thanks for your confidence in me.

>>18076170
enough with these posts about losers and idiotic internet ((philosophers)))

I guess the trump supporters from /pol/ are looking for a safe haven for themselves and they chose c/lit/

>>18076262
At least read Moldbug before spamming this dumb shit all over different boards retard

That is not at all what the Cathedral is

>>18076175
There are far more non-jews in power than jews, so he picked an apt name and made a good decision to not follow on jews only like a complete schizo.

>>18077645
Relative to the size of their population jews are overwhelmingly overrepresented, you disingenuous fuck. Given how small their population is and how much power and influence they wield despite that, it's more than apt to call it the synagogue since they function as the priestly class.

>>18077677
>Relative to the size of their population jews are overwhelmingly overrepresented, you disingenuous fuck
So? They still don't hold the most important positions or influential positions, schizo.

>>18077684
Yes they do, retard. The positions in the spotlight are mostly not the most important nor influential, see for example presidency. It's the ones that control government advisory, lobby groups, banking, media, academia, medicine, entertainment, porn, international law, multinational corporations etc. In these you will find it's overwhelmingly jews that do hold the most important and influential positions.

>>18077705
Prove it.

>>18077713
Just look up the early life sections of the positions I mentioned on wikipedia, I'm not going to copy paste all that for you.

>>18077713

>>18077713
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>>18077713

>>18076170
Based trump didn't try to control nobody

>>18077713

>>18077705
All this power and they're only now just introducing mixed race couples in media to brainwash us

>>18077811
.

>>18077853
No it's been happening since the 50s but the amount has been steadily ramped up, if you know how propaganda works you know you can't just go in full force, you have to ease people in.

>>18077859
you're giving away your own propaganda secrets anon

>>18077811
>>18077819
>>18077825
>>18077852
>>18077856
>my cherry picked/fake /pol/ infographics prove it!
I guarantee at least 80% of those are fake.

>>18077863
Look them up then. Prove me wrong. I don't know why I bothered, you're the one who asked for proof, I provide it. "no it's not good enough"
It's never good enough because you've already made up your mind.

>>18077862
They're not mine, they're Edward Bernays'.

>>18077874
A convenient narrative!

>>18077863
>f-fake
Jesus Christ

Hitler

What an awful thread.

>>18077863
What kind of proof would be good enough for you then?

>>18077881
Exclude everyone who is jewish on their father's side

>>18077898
Half jews still identify as jews and behave like jews and are culturally jews even if it's not according to muh jewish laws

>>18077907
How does nepotism benefit these non-jews?

>>18077912
Wealth, power, influence. The difference is non-jews only think about themselves but jews also think about their larger community.

>>18077898
That's not how it works, either you're included in the nepotistic web of jewish power or not. If you've got a jewish last name from your dad and you have the right views you're certainly NOT going to be excluded.
>>18077907
That's generally the case but not always
t. baptized protestant-raised anti-zionist half goy

>>18077912
By being ethnically Jewish and acting like Jews.

>>18077925
>That's generally the case but not always
Sure I was generalizing, there's always exceptions

>>18076170
That's not what moldbug says at all though.

>>18077925
Yes but it’s generally the case as you said and were talking about their over representation anyway
So many partial Jews in power with Jewish names and similar values isn’t a coincidence

>>18077944
*jewish

>>18077944
*we’re

>>18077924
What? When you say non-jews do you mean those who are legally not jewish? ie jewish on their father's side?

>>18077931
>>18077944
Not wrong

>>18077925
>If you've got a jewish last name from your dad and you have the right views you're certainly NOT going to be excluded.

So a jew can have the wrong views?

>>18077959
Guy, that's an esoteric ancient rule that isn't binding. If you have a jewish father and you involve yourself with the jewish community you are absolutely jewish.

>>18077929
Letter of the law is pretty jewish to me

>>18077959
Oh I thought you meant the goys who work in league with the jews. No half-jews are overwhelmingly still jewish even if it's from the "wrong" side since it's an ethno-religio-cultural club. The lines are very blurry.

>>18077867
>>18077881
>>18077892
>waste your time checking my fake infographics!
No, I'm not a loser and have better things to do.
Nothing will ever change the fact you're a weirdo little incel obsessed with Jews ; )

>>18077964
So you're willing to say that every name in those images that has a star of david next to it, and is jewish on their father's side only, actively involves themselves in the jewish community AND has stated/proved this somewhere where the information is easy enough to grab for an infographic? Or are you gonna say that having similar beliefs to jews = participating in the community? Because only one type of person pulls tricks like that...

>>18077971
You wanna suggest to a jew that the lines of jewishness are blurry?

>>18077980
This fucking jew lmao, do you realize that when you make arguments like this it makes you look worse?

>>18077978
>prove it
>no I won't accept your proof
You're the one being disingenuous here.
nothing will ever change the fact you're a weasel who refuses to search for the truth because he's scared of the implications.

>>18077898
The matrilineal culture of the Jews doesn't matter because the problem with Jews is their genetic predisposition to mental illness and savage behavior. Their tribalism is not born from love of their kin, but rather from paranoiac classification of all external beings as threats and thus the necessity of temporary alliance with the most similar individuals (to be abandoned whenever the personal benefit outweighs the benefit of collective power). All that is reviled in Jewish culture is a result of the genetics of the degenerate clans who created that culture.

>>18077987
Yes? When we're talking about jewish behaviour and jewish cultural influence, what the official "rules" say doesn't matter. I look at actions, not words.

>>18077993
I'm white and this manipulative bullshit you're pulling makes you no different to a jew. You do not give people the dignity of deciding for themselves, you fall into jewish traps of trying to control the thoughts of others

>>18077995
Little weirdo incel who is obsessed with jews and has no friends :D

>>18078003
So they must view whites as 'most similar' in a greater scheme of things since their influence is here and not China

>>18078008
We all know you're lying.

>>18078004
You've never cited the talmud to show how jews are trying to control us?

>>18078010
If thinking that makes you happy buddy then fine, doesn't change the fact that you refuse to look at the truth because you're scared of the implications.
It's not my fault that everytime I research an issue, jews turn out to be overwhelmingly behind it.

>>18078027
What?

>>18078020
>We
I thought the jews were the schizos

>>18078047
You don't need to answer, don't worry

>>18078033
BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY'RE JEWS THEIR MOM COULD BE A GOY HUH!??? Who cares if his name is Bergblattsteinowitz!?!??!
Literally this guy's argument

>>18078048
You know there's more people here that share his views right? This silly retort makes no sense.

>>18078054
I won't believe it until there's an infographic of all your faces

>>18078050
You understand that "jewish" is both an ethnic, religious and cultural category right? I can make all the arguments I need without ever referring to the religious aspect. Secular jews still behave like jews.

>>18078061
It's fine, I understand you have no more arguments. I accept your concession.

>>18078063
I asked how nepotism would benefit pseudo-jews if jewish culture has always been defined as one concerned with the letter of the law, including the one that defines who is and isn't jewish.
The most promising response yet was saying that if they involve themselves in the jewish community and believe the right things then they'll surely get included. But the conversation devolved since then

>>18078014
They are unable to view Europeans as similar to themselves because they are keenly aware of the superiority in physical, mental, and spiritual realms of the European tribes. They utterly loathe Europeans because no amount of clever argumentation can cover for the obvious differences between their decrepit forms and the noble manifestations of the greatest race of man. Just look at the "humor" the Jews create, it is filled with self-depreciating acknowledgement of their frailties and ugliness because it is necessary for them to cope with their inadequacy. Further, they are filled with rage from knowing that the high standards of living they enjoy are only possible because of the efforts of Europeans and that even "their" subversion of European nations has only been possible through the actions of European race traitors subjugating their own folk and inviting the Jews as collaborators. The only nation conquered by Jewish soldiers was Palestine, a land inhabited by their own cousins.

>>18078070
Great now you can leave the thread

All you fags talking about jews will benefit from reading picrel.
http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=386FDD704B0FFAD50BC8B83176A73053

>>18078079
Incredible mental gymnastics

>>18078076
>jewish culture has always been defined as one concerned with the letter of the law
Can you prove that every single jew is concerned with the letter of the law?
What about the jewish gangs of the early 20th century in America?
Are you saying jews don't concern themselves with non-jewish laws?
I don't agree.

>>18078089
Unsurprising lack of argument

>>18078076
>I asked how nepotism would benefit pseudo-jews
This book answers your question. In short your definition of jewishness is formal but not practical since, like that other anon said, half-jews still overwhelmingly behave like jews. Partially through culture, partially through genetics. The law you cite only applies to religious jews, but in that case secular jews wouldn't be jews either, but they are.
>if they involve themselves in the jewish community and believe the right things then they'll surely get included
Yes pretty much. Bending rules to benefit is what they're good at.
>But the conversation devolved since then
That's what always happens with this topic since some people don't want it discussed in good faith.

>>18078080
No.
>>18078087
Why don't you read Culture of Critique?

>>18078091
I don't mean laws in general but surely the jewish law that gives us a jewish view of who is a jew and who is not is relevant to the discussion of who jewish nepotism benefits - if it includes these 'legal' goys with jewish last names. I only ask because the people here seem to know a lot about jews

>>18078087
>>18078100
>DA JOOOOOZ DA JOOOOOZ DA JOOOOOZ DA JOOOOOZDA JOOOOOZ DA JOOOOOZDA JOOOOOZ DA JOOOOOZDA JOOOOOZ DA JOOOOOZDA JOOOOOZ DA JOOOOOZDA JOOOOOZ DA JOOOOOZDA JOOOOOZ DA JOOOOOZDA JOOOOOZ DA JOOOOOZDA JOOOOOZ DA JOOOOOZDA JOOOOOZ DA JOOOOOZ
Give it a rest already.

>>18078122
Why don't you come up with a good argument instead of crying about it? Are you afraid of the truth being discussed?

>Since 2016, the entire online counterculture of whiny NEET neoreactionary faggots has either been banned or shadow banned.
Fify. Also, this is a good thing

>>18078119
> if it includes these 'legal' goys with jewish last names
If you go back to medieval times you would be correct but apart from some very strict orthodox sects, hardly any jew still holds those views nowadays. If you're a half jew no matter from what side and you identify as jew, you're considered a jew.

>>18078092
Because you posted nonsense. Obviously they must consider whites fairly similar because, again, they operate here and not in China. I've seen twitter posts on here of self-described 'whites' advocating for leftist beliefs but the twitter bios stating they are jewish.

Also not sure about the claim re mental superiority from a jewish perspective because ashkenazi jews score highly in IQ and it doesn't bode well for Europeans when you suggest they are being subjugated by an inferior race

>>18078122
Read the book faggot. Then talk.

>>18078100
My concern isn't really that half-jews are behaving like jews, it's about how they get into power in the first place when I'm sure there are plenty of full jews who are just as 'qualified' for these roles of influence. If whites really aren't similar like the other anon is suggesting then it's a huge risk to their whole operation if they have (half-)goys in their ranks

>>18076170

It's like he's read on Deleuze book and understood it only marginally and now taints everything with his pseudo post structuralist miasma. He's a midwit, his writing is god awful to read and his conclusions are irrelevant at best and grossly false at worst.

>>18078107
Ok I will read it.

>>18078119
There's no hard legal rule. If you have a significant amount of jewish heritage then you can be considered jewish. Keeping a flexible, blurry line is advantageous to them because then we have to have absolutely retarded conversations like this.

>>18078143
>Jews don't operate in china
Dude, do your fucking homework before you post this shit.

>>18078172
My point is you'd be hard-pressed to post a similar infographic of jewish people in positions of influence for China. Lu Fang isn't going to have a star of david next to his name

>>18078130
>>18078152
You are obsessed with Jews and I have read anti-semitic shit for ages. I used to read the occidental observer on a weekly basis and have read MacDonald. His argument is a baseless conspiracy theory.
Jew obsession is a white nationalist COPE because you cannot accept that your own white racial elites have sold you out for money. It's their corporations that started mass immigration. They have no racial kinship to you and think white nationalism is gay as fuck. You literally cannot accept that you're been betrayed by people you see as your own, so you blame DA JOOOOOOOOOZ. It's white elites who integrated Jews into the global order. They enfranchised the Jews and they rule the west together. You are so mind broken by this fact you need to invent a boogeyman.

>>18078161
No you'd be surprised, there's not that many full jews. If you look at Ashkenazis for example, they have historically interbred with Europeans. It's not as autistically strict as you make it out to be, there's also many actual goys who work with these elite jews just because they can reap personal benefit. It's also not a "secret operation", it's more like a survival strategy. Have you read Culture of Critique? If not you should, it answers all of your questions here.

>>18078183
Baseless conspiracy theory. You're obsessed with white elites and white nationalists.

>>18078183
Where are the “white elites” in media? They used to be there and they weren’t pro immigration.

>>18078183
uhhgg merely talking about jews makes it an "obsession" and makes the person talking about jews have a bunch of psychological problems.
Most who you think are white elites were of jewish blood. They admit it themselves. some examples are scotland, england, pheonicians and other such royal bloodlines are all jewish. They benefit from appearing to be christian to appeal to the masses. Is this so hard to understand shill?

>>18078183
> have read anti-semitic shit for ages. I used to read the occidental observer on a weekly basis and have read MacDonald. His argument is a baseless conspiracy theory.
Sure buddy
>your own white racial elites have sold you out for money
Oh no I'm very aware of that fact
>It's white elites who integrated Jews into the global order
No here you're wrong, it's really the other way round. You lack historical awareness. If you go back to how these ideas came to be at the end of the middle ages, you will see it nearly always goes back to jewish cliques. They're called rootless and globalist for a reason, they had no country back then and they were part of an international community spread over many countries.
>They enfranchised the Jews and they rule the west together. You are so mind broken by this fact you need to invent a boogeyman.
No, it's really simple and your autistic screeching won't change that. Everyone and their mom knows that white elites do what they do. But it's the jewish part that we're somehow not allowed to talk about. If I call out the white elites no one bats an eye. If I call out the jewish elites retards like you start screeching. That's because white elites are only a tiny part of our population total, while jews are massively overrepresented in the elite. You're either missing the point or you're being deliberately disingenuous again.

>>18078181
The Chinese aren’t suicidal. They were tricked into communism but they are becoming more rational.

>>18078183
>your own white racial elites have sold you out for money
Yeah, sold you out to Jews.

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>>18078211
White racial elites gives ZERO fucks about le white race and have sold you out for money. They can move and live anywhere in the world. They hold all the money and power and they don't need you. Keep coping more and blaming DA JOOOOOZ for being fucked over by your own elites.

>>18078143
>they operate here and not in China
Almost as if Europe is closer to the homeland from which they migrated after their nation was destroyed by the Romans. Almost as if Christianism spread through Europe rather than China and thus made the Europeans more accepting of Jews due to being forced to accept a worldview built from Jewish mythology. I wonder if there could be historical reasons why Jews are more prevalent in European societies than Asian societies.

>I've seen twitter posts on here of self-described 'whites' advocating for leftist beliefs but the twitter bios stating they are jewish.
What does that have to do with anything? The self-labeling as white is nothing more than a tactic to seek advantage by forcing themselves on actual Europeans and attempting to steer cultural discourse in an anti-European direction which immediately benefits the Jews who revert to claiming to be oppressed foreigners when it is time to reap the reward of the anti-nativist ideology they have helped to feed.

>when you suggest they are being subjugated by an inferior race
Except that I specifically stated that all subjugation which has benefited the Jews has been the work of race traitors working against the interests of their own folk for personal gain. The armies that marched across Europe spreading Christianity and enforcing the cultural hegemony of a Christendom were not filled with Jews nor commanded by Jews. Even today, Jews are not the most important members of the oligarchy comprising the top level of the system of control. They are over represented beneficiaries of the system and natural allies of race traitors due to their degenerate spirits, but they are not the geniuses of war and power.

>>18078220
They didn't sell out to the Jews, they followed their own interests. You are making your own race sound even more helpless and pathetic.
>OHONONONONO, DA JOOOOZ made us do this, we are so helpless and weak!
This is what happens when you have no understanding of systems, you start blaming all your problems on boogeymen. The current world order is the result of the logic of capitalism and profit seeking, DA JOOOOZ are irrelevant.

>>18078223
read what i wrote faggot. "white elites" were all of jewish blood. they pretended to be white and christian to appeal to the masses.
but i know you will repeat the same fucking thing like a pokemon

Read >>18078087 others watching along
Link:
http://libgen.is/book/index.php?md5=386FDD704B0FFAD50BC8B83176A73053

>>18078223
What the white elites do only benefits themselves, what jewish elites do benefits the jewish community. That's the difference. No one disputes that white elites are a part of it, but they're not the central issue.
But I'm sure you're here to argue in good faith right?

>>18078189
In the end my point is really about the infographics, that this info we had to work out over a long conversation rather than this being explained or signified, openly and transparently, in the infographics themselves. A lot of it does depend on this circumstantial, and sometimes circular(?), evidence of what 'jewish culture' is and why the person or people making the image have chosen a certain definition without clarifying it. It doesn't look good

>>18078233
>The current world order is the result of the logic of capitalism and profit seeking, DA JOOOOZ are irrelevant.
No it's not since jews are the undisputed masters of capitalism and profit seeking. Do you have any historical awareness of how capitalism began?

>>18078223
You certainly don't, that’s for sure

>>18078233
So why did it only happen in the mid 20th century

>>18078229
So you're saying that they consider themselves similar to Euros

>>18078250
Yes I do and it wasn't started by Jews.

>>18078265
It was 100 % started by jewish industrialists. Denying it repeatedly like a pokemon doesn't change the fact that most "white elites" were or jewish lineage and pretended to be white and christian for appearances and public appeal.

>>18078243
How would you turn this into an infographic though? We both acknowledge it's more nuanced. The infographics are just to capture attention and make people think and look up the evidence for themselves.
>A lot of it does depend on this circumstantial, and sometimes circular(?), evidence of what 'jewish culture' is and why the person or people making the image have chosen a certain definition without clarifying it
That's part of why it's so difficult to discuss this. If it were black and white it would be much easier.
Seriously, just read Culture of Critique. It answers all your questions. You don't have to agree with it, but at least you'll understand the arguments better.

>>18078263
You really do "argue" just like a kike.

>>18078237
You're contradicting the other anon who is saying white elites benefit themselves

>>18078265
Then you apparently don't, you might want to read up on Amsterdam and London again and find out where the major players were from.

>>18078262
Because your white racial elites who you love so much betrayed you and didn't want to keep giving you good stuff. It wasn't profitable for them to keep giving free shit to poor people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PXhNbGBheE

>>18078277
You don't even know what you're arguing. You've changed tact each response you've made

>>18078280
See >>18078273
No contradiction in what I said.
So called "white elites" were of jewish blood all along.

>>18078273
You are legit mentally ill and see jews where they don't exist. Just fuck off already schizo.

>>18078290
Look guy, no one is disputing white elites betrayed white people. The problem is that they're a tiny minority of white people, while a large percentage of jews is part of the elite. That's the part you're refusing to address. Stop being so disingenuous.

>>18078301
>it isn't jews
>but it's jews
>and you're a bad person if you don't like that it was jews
it's all so tiresome

>>18078301
goes back to
>uhhgg merely talking about jews makes it an "obsession" and makes the person talking about jews have a bunch of psychological problems.
Go fuck yourself. You can't defend yourself and your dirty hook nosed kinship.

>>18078306
"white elites" were jewish plants themselves. look up any royal tree in almost any european country. you can trace their names and relations back to some kike.

>>18078285
Name one prominent Jewish industrialist that comes anywhere close to someone like Rockefeller, Carnegie, or Ford.

>>18078290
>anti-capitalist chronicles
Lmao you're a filthy commie, of course
Communism is also a jewish invention but I'm sure you're aware of that.

>>18078306
The majority of the elites are white people, not Jews. Cope more.

>>18078325
Capitalism started much earlier my dude, in the 16th century in Amsterdam and London, by Sephardic refugees from Iberia in league with protestant opportunists. Don't be disingenuous like that.

>>18078324
Retarded, not true, and weakens the anti semitic position.

>>18078294
Nope, my responses have been entirely consistent. If it were otherwise, you'd be able to quote specific cases of inconsistency. You haven't done that because you are simply engaging in deception by implying I've made statements that I haven't.

Case in point:
>>18078143
>you suggest they are being subjugated by an inferior race
Is a reply to the post wherein I state
>>18078079
>the actions of European race traitors subjugating their own folk
You've attempted to invert the meaning of the words I used in a direct and obvious manner. There's no two ways about it, you've been nothing but disingenuous from the beginning.

>>18078337
No faggot. Majority of elites were crypto jews.

>>18078330
You got sold out by rich white people because they see you as worthless trash ; )

>>18078337
Retard. Do you understand statistics?
About half of the elite are white, the other half are jewish. However those white elites are just a tiny fraction of the entire white population, whereas those jewish elites are a very large part of the entire jewish population. Don't be disingenuous.

>>18078346
it is true faggot. look it up. almost all royal blood in european royalty can be traced back to a kike. its whites who were "cattle" and were ruled. just by saying "not true" repeatedly like a fucking pokemon doesn't change the fact it is true.

>>18078350
>the jews are all powerful, everywhere, like demi-gods, who completely control us!
You don't see how this makes you look pathetic, do you?

>>18078353
Again, retard, I'm not disputing that. You're trying to deflect from the fact that they did so incentivized by jewish elites who then used that power to benefit their own community.
I'm starting to wonder how big your nose is. You're being very disingenuous.

>>18078368
No. the jews are slimy fucks who rely on deception, trickery and lies to get ahead. You keep telling yourself that kike. You are still just a parasite.

>>18078330
Name a single thing that's incorrect in that video.
Go on.

>>18078368
Is that the best you've got? Yes, we're slaves to the jewish elite. Happy now? How does that change what was said?

ITT
Filthy kike kiking his way to "winning" an argument by deflecting, insulting and changing the topic whenever the opportunity presents itself.

>>18078377
It fails to discuss the role of the jews.

>>18078362
>>18078372
>>18078376
The majority of elites are white people.
Fact.
The richest people are white people.
Fact.
The people who hold most institutional power are white people.
Fact.
Everything else is a /pol/tard COPE for the fact you have been fucked over by 1) Capitalism 2) Lack of racial kinship in your own people.
You hate the Jews because they have the racial kinship you wish your people had.
That is the reality of the situation.

ITT

>>18078379
It means you are more delusional and mentally ill than I previously thought. I would suggest suicide as a cure, but you're probably too cowardly for it.

>>18078387
Jews aren’t fucking white

>>18078384
I knew it was coming!!!
The moment the /pol/tard becomes so mind broken he start accusing people of being Jews.
They absolutely live in your head from morning to night. I bet you dream about them. Lmfao, pathetic little /pol/cuck.

>>18078387
Nope. Most elites are crypto jewish.
You can keep repeating your retarded talking points. Wont change the fact that almost all of them come from royal kike blood.
And in classic jew fashion, you project your own weakness and inferiority to whites, blacks and asians by deflecting the argument, repeating the same things over and over and seek power over those you feel inferior to. And in even more classic jew fashion you then proceed to accuse your enemies of doing the same while keeping an air of plausible deniability.
You and your people are parasites at best. Give it a few years. Everyone is getting wise. You will be banished again, like you have been throughout history.

>>18078387
>The majority of elites are white people.
No, about half. And the other half is jewish. owever those white elites are just a tiny fraction of the entire white population, whereas those jewish elites are a very large part of the entire jewish population.
>The richest people are white people.
Absolutely perhaps, but relatively that would again be jews.
>The people who hold most institutional power are white people.
Absolutely perhaps, but relatively that would again be jews. Also institutional power is just as much a boogeyman for commies as your da jooz is.
> 1) Capitalism
A jewish invention.
>2) Lack of racial kinship in your own people.
Which is capitalized upon by a people that does indeed have very strong racial kinship.
>You hate the Jews because they have the racial kinship you wish your people had.
No not really, I criticize them because they act like that isn't the case and deny it to us. I wouldn't care about their racial kinship if they didn't undermine ours.
You have a very big nose.

>>18078290
So it’s the Jews that are the negative force

>>18078403
You wish you had the racial kinship of Jews, which has survived 3000 years and crossed continents. That's why you so autistically hate them, they are everything white nationalists wish white people were.

>>18078397
You can't address the argument so instead you call people mentally ill (which is also a jewish invention)? Alright then, I accept your concession.

>>18078424
Yes I do, the issue is that whites are being denied that because of muh holohoax. You've basically just confirmed everything said about jewish power here by the way, thanks. Don't try to deny it again now.

>>18078424
Now you’re changing the subject

>>18078405
Even if you're not a jew, you behave like one. That's good enough.

>these are the guys who enslaved the superior aryan race

>>18078430
>You've basically just confirmed everything said about jewish power here by the way, thanks.
No I didn't. Jewish power is secondary to European-American and Chinese power.

>>18078440
The issue is that whites are too honest and noble and jews are excellent at manipulation. Also no it's not the hasidics.

>>18078443
Which are both beholden to jewish power. We just confirmed that half of the elites are jewish, and that they have strong racial kinship whereas whites don't, making their power much more influential. Thanks for proving my point.

Awfully quiet after I quoted direct evidence of your dishonest argumentation lol
That was the way in which I meant that you argued like a kike as well, which is necessary to point out because you certainly don't argue as intelligently as a kike.

>>18078458
It's funny and sad how much energy they spend arguing on behalf of a race that couldn't care less about them. The propaganda has worked well on them.

>>18078455
>Which are both beholden to jewish power.
No they're not, this is a fantasy of yours, where Jews are all powerful supervillains with God-like power. Some weird deviant fetish you've developed.

>>18078470
Nobody cares about your fake and gay quotes and infographics. Only /pol/niggers fall for such low IQ shit. Fuck off to /pol/.
>>>/pol/

>>18078485
No not really, explain why jewish elites are overrepresented in all European/western countries then? If European power were greater than jewish power, Israel wouldn't exist. China has also been bought by globalist jews as I'm sure you know.

>>18078497
Lots of people care otherwise you wouldn't be so triggered about it. Like I said, the infographics are just attention grabbers, but anyone with half a brain will at least attempt to check the veracity and see that it's largely correct (and the reality is even worse).

>>18078497
Why are you so intent on defending jews? They wouldn't do the same for you.

>>18076170
i think you are misreading yarvin pretty hard. they didnt like trump but its not like they saw him as a massive threat to their power.

It's quiet all of sudden, is the Hasbara deflection team on a smoke break?

>>18078510
>explain why jewish elites are overrepresented in all European/western countries then?
Because they are, as many Western European elites have said, such as Winston Churchill and many others, very competent people with high intelligence. Ironically, because of European policies towards them, keeping them from certain professions and waging pogroms against them. Only the smartest, conniving, and dextrous Jews survived to pass on their genes. Europe was like a hyper-adaptation environment for Jews.
>If European power were greater than jewish power, Israel wouldn't exist
Non-sequitur.
>China has also been bought by globalist jews as I'm sure you know.
No I don't know since I'm not a /pol/ schizo who thinks Jews are god-like boogeymen

>>18078551
/pol/tards are unironically whack-a-mole black and white thinkers, as this thread has shown. They think the media and other elites disliked Trump because he was different and posed a threat to their world order, when really policy wise they were identical. They disliked Trump because he was brash, rude, crass, and had no gravitas. He also appealed to people's lowest instincts for political points. He was a jumpstarted salesmen, they saw him as lower class compared to themselves.

>>18078583
>Only the smartest, conniving, and dextrous Jews survived to pass on their genes. Europe was like a hyper-adaptation environment for Jews.
Wait so you agree with Kevin MacDonald? Are you sure you're not an antisemite?
Combined with your remarks about racial kinship it's clear how they wield more power than white elites who only use it to their own benefit. Thanks for proving my poiny I guess.
>Non-sequitur.
No it's not. You just don't like the implication. There wouldn't be reason for Israel to exist if it weren't for jewish power, nor would there be the means.
>No I don't know since I'm not a /pol/ schizo who thinks Jews are god-like boogeymen
But you think capitalists are god-like boogeymen huh? Funny how that works. But yes international jews have bought massive influence in China, although of course it's less strong than in the west for obvious reasons.

>>18078497
>noooooo you can only look at msm infographics!

For anyone wondering what happened in this thread, look up the Hasbara Handbook.

>>18078583
pseudoscience like what your saying has a long history in intelligence testing. When Mensa was first started in 1946, it's founders believed it's members would all be from the upper classes. As per your theory they had for generations filtered upward through intellect and then had a selection pressure once there for intellectual reasoning. Instead the reality that occurred was that the majority of its members were from the working or lower class, much to the founders admitted disappointment.

>>18078583
Do you think conquering half of the world is god-like? No it’s human because Europeans did just that.

>>18078611
>Wait so you agree with Kevin MacDonald? Are you sure you're not an antisemite?
>Combined with your remarks about racial kinship it's clear how they wield more power than white elites who only use it to their own benefit. Thanks for proving my poiny I guess.
I agree with him to the extent that Jews are competent people, but I disagree that they are the most powerful group or that they got into power circles because of nefarious means. They proved their competence and were allowed into the Western elite by Western Europeans. Why wouldn't the British want someone like Rothschild on their side? Why wouldn't Napoleon emancipate the Jews? That's a ton of human capital wasted otherwise.

Wrong. There wouldn't be Israel without European power and American power. The only reason Israel exists is because it's a useful tool for Westerners to have in the middle east.

No I don't. But I understand that the profit incentive is that drives capitalism, not wish washy ideals about muh white race. White elites will sell and strip your white race to nothing, which they have done, to ensure profits keep coming in and markets expanding. It's all about money. It has nothing to do with nefarious evil plans for white genocide or any other such nonsense. The point of mass immigration was to destroy uppity Labour movements in the west, increase corporate profits, and follow the logic of globalization. Nothing more and nothing less.

I'm a helpless /pol/tard, save me from the Jews, anons. Please, the Jews rape me every night.

>>18078666
>I disagree that they are the most powerful group or that they got into power circles because of nefarious means.
The first part is provably wrong as we've established they comprise about half of the western elite, yet have racial kinship that the white elite don't. You cannot argue this.
The second part is also provably true since we have their own writings where they admit to wanting to erode western cultures for their own benefit while preserving their own traditions.
>Wrong. There wouldn't be Israel without European power and American power. The only reason Israel exists is because it's a useful tool for Westerners to have in the middle east.
It's completely the other way round.
> White elites will sell and strip your white race to nothing, which they have done, to ensure profits keep coming in and markets expanding. It's all about money.
Again, yes. But you're wrong in thinking the incentives are the same for jews.
>It has nothing to do with nefarious evil plans for white genocide or any other such nonsense.
Yes, for the jewish elite this is part of the plan. Not that they mind the profit, they love it. It's two birds, one stone. The difference is that white elites couldn't care less if we disappear whereas jewish elites want us to disappear. You not acknowledging that is disingenuous.
>The point of mass immigration was to destroy uppity Labour movements in the west, increase corporate profits, and follow the logic of globalization. Nothing more and nothing less.
See this is the problem with commies. They're so blinded by jealousy, money and materialism that they cannot imagine that people who are not like them might have other incentives that go beyond profits. It shows massive lack of historical awareness.

>>18078688

>>18078666
>>18078707
*wrong and wrong, you know what I mean

>>18078707
>The first part is provably wrong as we've established they comprise about half of the western elite, yet have racial kinship that the white elite don't. You cannot argue this.
Prove it.
>The second part is also provably true since we have their own writings where they admit to wanting to erode western cultures for their own benefit while preserving their own traditions.
Give one example.
>It's completely the other way round.
No, it's not. Israel is a puppet state for Westerners, originally for the British, now for America.
>Yes, for the jewish elite this is part of the plan. Not that they mind the profit, they love it. It's two birds, one stone. The difference is that white elites couldn't care less if we disappear whereas jewish elites want us to disappear. You not acknowledging that is disingenuous.
Prove it.
>See this is the problem with commies. They're so blinded by jealousy, money and materialism that they cannot imagine that people who are not like them might have other incentives that go beyond profits. It shows massive lack of historical awareness.
Not a communist. So cope more.

THE JEWS LITERALLY LIVE RENT FREE IN MY HEAD.
I AM A SLAVE TO THE JEWS.
THEY SHOULD BE THE TRUE MASTER RACE, THEY ARE SO POWERFUL AND WE ARE NOTHING BEFORE THEM, ARYAN BROS...

>>18078736
Oh so after constantly throwing around baseless claims yourself you now demand proof? Fuck off. Read CoC, the primary source quotes are in there. You're the one who bagged on about jewish racial kinship so don't even try arguing it now.
>No, it's not. Israel is a puppet state for Westerners, originally for the British, now for America.
Funny how we don't have British and Americans in the Israeli government but we do have jews in the British and American government huh? Funny how Western politicians are required to swear allegiance to Israel but not the other way round huh? Retard.
>Not a communist. So cope more.
You're a materialist though and apart from the remark about commies, everything I said still stands.

>>18078745

And yet another thread has been kike'd

>>18078770
>Oh so after constantly throwing around baseless claims yourself you now demand proof? Fuck off. Read CoC, the primary source quotes are in there. You're the one who bagged on about jewish racial kinship so don't even try arguing it now.
So you can't actually source a single thing?
Kek. Also quoting some insane Jew is like quoting Hitler and saying all white people want to kill Jews.
>Funny how we don't have British and Americans in the Israeli government but we do have jews in the British and American government huh? Funny how Western politicians are required to swear allegiance to Israel but not the other way round huh? Retard.
We also have Chinese, Indians, Armenians, and others in the American and British governments. Must mean India rules the West too!
>You're a materialist though and apart from the remark about commies, everything I said still stands.
So you're saying I actually understand how the world works? Thank you for the compliment.

>>18078785
Their MO is to flood these threads with deflection so the post count rises and other anons won't want anything to do with it. I guess we have to address the issue in more topics earlier on and not engage.

>>18078785
>Everytime I lose an argument, DA JOOOOOOOOOOOZ were behind it

>>18078813
>people who think I'm an idiot and disagree with me are secret agents of the Jews, out to subvert my postings on a Chinese cartoon forum
You legitimately have delusional paranoia, I don't know what else to say to you. You have been completely mind broken by Jewish conspiracy theories that your mind has bifurcated.

>>18078828
>>18078834
Yeah!! Get at them mentally ill people. Jews don't even exist. They're just a hallucination conjured up by whites to blame things on.

>>18078810
>So you can't actually source a single thing?
I could say the same to you. You haven't proven you can.
>Kek. Also quoting some insane Jew is like quoting Hitler and saying all white people want to kill Jews.
What are you on about? He quotes mainstream jews and you're being shifty again. Thanks for proving you never read the book.
>We also have Chinese, Indians, Armenians, and others in the American and British governments. Must mean India rules the West too!
Why are you being so disingenuous? You know those are not nearly as strongly represented as jews and are less likely to hold dual loyalty. But yes, those are an issue too. I guess thanks for once again proving my point.
>So you're saying I actually understand how the world works? Thank you for the compliment.
No, quite the opposite. Your inability to conceive that others might not have the same incentives as you is baffling. It's not something to be proud of.

>>18078834
Are you saying Israel doesn't hire students to literally do these things, deflect on online message boards and social media to shift blame from jews? That would be very disingenuous and the proof is in this thread.
Also I can't help you're not willing to look for truth, sorry.

>>18078850
>I could say the same to you. You haven't proven you can.
What have you asked me to source?
>What are you on about? He quotes mainstream jews and you're being shifty again. Thanks for proving you never read the book.
Name one.
>Why are you being so disingenuous? You know those are not nearly as strongly represented as jews and are less likely to hold dual loyalty. But yes, those are an issue too. I guess thanks for once again proving my point.
It's only evil when da joooos do it! Mind broken.
>No, quite the opposite. Your inability to conceive that others might not have the same incentives as you is baffling. It's not something to be proud of.
People who own capital all have the same incentives. If they don't make a profit, they go out of business. Do you understand this?

>>18078872
>What have you asked me to source?
Nothing, but that didn't stop you from making baseless claims. If you're suddenly so concerned about sourcing, you should have started by setting the example.
>Name one.
Freud.
>It's only evil when da joooos do it! Mind broken.
Are you retarded? I said the others are a problem too, but they have less power and influence so they're not my focus. If it were Indians I would be saying the exact same about Indians you disingenuous fuck.
>People who own capital all have the same incentives. If they don't make a profit, they go out of business. Do you understand this?
This is retarded. There are many elites who have so much capital they can make losses for years on end and not notice any decrease in quality of living. They have no issue in spending their money on non-profitable issues in order to further other cultural agendas while making a loss, because they care about more than just profit. They are often called philantropists.You are either very shallowly informed or once again arguing in bad faith.

Control societies are headless. They develop from within the multitude of habits that form them, not from individual will or shallow malevolent meddling, that's merely a symptom. Nick Land says this fateful tendency might be capital or intelligence but who knows it might be a demon