/lit/ - Literature

>>18051660
relax, I'll start with the greeks when i finally decide to get into philosophy

>>18051660
I want to dream

>>18051928
the greeks isn't just plato and aristotle. homer, hesiod and the playwrights are at the beginning of the literary tradition

>>18051935
But how could i start with the greeks if im not literate enough to understand it yet. Moby dick is a tough book for me.

>>18051660
what did the author of that image mean by it

>>18051962
reading homer and the tragedians is easier than melville man

idk I think only after reading Hegel's philosophy of law I finally get platonic ideas

>>18051962
ngmi

>>18051962
Unironically the Greeks write like high schoolers. Also most of the stories you know have a basis in them.

>>18052137
seconded

>>18052523
Fine I'll read diogenes

>>18052553
Diogenes didn't write anything he just shat in the street and yelled at people

>>18052523
Which high schoolers do you know that write like Aeschylus?

>>18052523
the main problem is that people do not have the background in greek mythology and locations so its easy to get lost in most of the greek works

>>18052570
*erases "that"*

>>18052558
there is a book about him though

>>18052558
Okay which philosopher should i read about stoicism.

>>18052591
You could read that, but Diogenes was yelling at Greek people telling them everything they were doing was wrong. It might not be a good way to get acquainted with the Greeks, since he was an outlier.

>>18052605
I think the only stoics with considerable extant writings were Romans.

>>18052553
Did he actually write?

>>18052523
Not when you read a prose translation of the Iliad from the 1800s.

ok but what exactly hypernigger

>>18051660
MFW I want to start with the greeks, but I don't know ancient greek, so I have to learn that first to fully comprehend the authors in their original language

>>18051660
>he didn't start with the indians

>>18053132
>I need to learn ancient greek because I can't read a translation that has been refined since the fucking medieval period
You really think you're gonna come up with a better translation with autodidact greek than every western institution with centuries of study?

>>18051660
>I used to read Word Up magazine
>Salt and Pepper, Heavy D up in the limousine

>>18053163
>western institution
Ill take my chances

>>18051935
It's perfectly fine to just do Plato and Aristotle for philosophy. You can circle back and handle the rest later on. Saying you need to read every Greek classic there is before advancing is just gatekeeping.

>>18053237
Yes.