/lit/ - Literature

>>18048762
You know what the climate crisis needs? Appealing to outdated abstractions for an ulterior aesthetic instead of actually doing anything about it.

>>18048794
Who is talking about the climate? Our biggest problem has been and remains over population. If you want to fix the climate do it with a globally enforced 2 child policy.

>>18048812
>2 child policy
how about bombing rio de janeiro, lagos, and new delhi with chemical weapons instead

>>18048812
Have a nice life

>>18048828
>chemical weapons
Far too damaging to the environment in several different ways. If we are going the genocide route human specific bioweapons but to make it completely fair a highly infectious disease released from the atmosphere with a 60% mortality rate across all genetic makeups then a 2 child policy.

>>18048846
>no argument
I thought so.

>>18048887
You wanted an argument?

>>18048913
Books.

>>18048924
Eat your greens and fuck up the workplace

>>18048856
>any bio weapons
are you insane?
just occupy and execute

>>18049125
No. Conventional warfare against that much of the population will not work for a variety of reasons that I shouldn't have to lost here and would be extremely damaging to the environment. We have the technology, intelligence and ability to create human specific bioweapons that essentially self destruct and we can contain them.

>>18048762
Do the people that make these charts actually read the books on them? Ecofascism critiques fascism's usage of ecology in the service of their ideology. I guess the person just saw the cover's aesthetics and went "wow based".
Arne Næss is also a weird inclusion given throughout the book he also denounces nationalist & fascist thinking and says it's incompatible with deep ecology.

>>18049155
Why exclude an author because 1% of what they wrote was wrong. If we were to do that to everyone there would be no one left to read.

It's not just 1% lol. I suppose you haven't read them either? In the case of Arne Næss I suppose you could make the argument that his importance to Deep Ecology warrants his inclusion but it's rather ironic given he seemed aware of the likelihood of fascists co-opting his ideas and addressed it throughout the book.
Whereas Ecofascism by Janet Biehl & Peter Staudenmaier is the complete antithesis of what the chart is about.

>>18049246
'hurr durr you should read this [Mainstream Explainer Book] by [Academic Author] explaining how this topic is inherently linked with [Anti-fascism / Anti-Racism / Anti-Pedophobia]".
This could be ecology, meditation. unions, workers rights, any issue of course needs to be interconnected with J*w propaganda.

>>18049682
You're fucking dense. I was just pointing out your scary jew books are on the chart and it's funny.

Vegetarian gang?

Bump

>>18048762
>future for all animals.
Except the ones that taste good :)

Bump
>>18049818
Yes

>>18048762
>Devi
>Linkola
>Darre
>stupid ecofascism book

Holy fuck please go outside. The state (so called "nations" too) are the major causes of environmental collapse.

>>18052758
Great arguments anon.

>>18049682
Holy shit you could not possibly be more dense.

>>18052896
See
>>18052840

I am currently typesetting Anna Bramwell's 'Blood and Soil: Walther Darre and Hitler's Green Party' from a very bad 90s/early 2000s PDF. In a few weeks, it should be ready in paperback for the first time since the 1980s. I'm pretty excited about this project.

>>18048762
you sir are an enormous faggot and deserve to be hung, drawn, and quartered

>>18052911
Here's another page. I plan to do this with other hard-to-find volumes but I'm not sure exactly what's next on the list.

>>18052911
Please make a thread with a link when you're finished.

>>18048762
Haiiiii more discussion about something that will make me feel concerned and belong to an aesthetic while the rest of the world keeps moving? Deep Ecology here I come !!!

>>18052924

Will do. The source is pretty rough so I'm sure there will be issues and I will require some proofreaders.

>>18052941
The same could be said for every ideology that isn't currently part of the ruling class.

>>18052948
Ha stay mad illiterate reactionary/commie. You love reduction/strawmanning/whatever. But marx/evola/whoever is far more complex than that. I bet you haven't even read them. Stay mad while I take my intellect to another level, but never actually use it. You on the other hand make anti-intellectualism seem bearable haha !!!

>>18049154
project coast

>>18048856
Humanity is apart of nature too, harming humanity would be harming nature. Seems oxymoronic to claim you want to save nature while destroying a part of it. Not to mention the countless conservation efforts humanity has been doing. Hell, I'm sure there are some species that humanity has been trying to preserve despite having zero direct interventio; It's just a case of a weak species not adapting.

>>18052911
>>18052918
>>18052949
This is awesome

>>18052911
Love it, thanks anon

>>18048762

>>18048762
>MAN GUILTY
>MAN BAD
what a load of bullshit

>>18048812
>Our biggest problem has been and remains over population.

Well why don't you start by removing yourself?

>>18048812
>do it with a globally enforced 2 child policy
Of course, but satanists prefer to start wars, spread viruses and distribute deadly vaccines.

>>18055106
>removing one person would cause the rest of the population to stop reproducing

Hm?

>>18055130
The birth rate is literally plummeting everywhere on the planet anon, nobody needs any convincing.

>>18048762
I like the environment but all this ecoshit is gay as fuck and I'm not reading some onions boys kvetching like women

>>18048762
>future for all animals
There will be no future for domesticated animals, because, if we don't exploit them, they will just die out in the wild as a species

>>18055159
You're thinking with your emotions right now, that is feminine

>>18055327
Caring about the environment and animals is feminine desu

>>18055327
I'm not, dumbass

>>18048762
Vegetarianism is damaging to your health.

Humanity only has room for that which it can exploit for its own gain. In the long term the only solution to ecological collapse on a global scale is interplanetary travel. Otherwise only those species that are adapted to survival alongside humanity will survive.
You can only prolong the inevitable until the human appetite become insatiable, and the desire for short-term gain overrides our reason.

>>18048812
isn't that already basically happening? when the average family is 2 people and a child with a divorce this either year or next. the problem of overpopulation would be so peripheral to the general state of human misery

>>18048828
You forget Cairo, Karachi, and New York

>>18048762
We can be as eco-conscious as one can be, but what needs to be done is dismantling of the meat industry, factory farming, and corporations that willingly pollute and destroy ecosystems

>>18048812
the entire human population of earth could fit into a small city if they stand side by side. Tell me how and why and where is overpopulation a problem retard.

>>18055722
>meat industry
Yes, in Southern and Northern America. Surely there isn't any problem with small European businesses.

>>18048762
deep ecology isn't a political statement or ideology
if you want good eco stuff, the /out/ trilogy has always been wendell berry, gene logsdon, and edward abbey

>nazi environmentalists

>>18048762
Fact: If we shot every city (with infrastructure supporting 500,000+) into space along with city and suburb dwellers, the world's material problems would be solved implicitly. Every single ideological issues irrespective of its position on that ambiguous continuum is a problem with large cities and their denizens

>>18056591
True. The city is the source of every human vileness.

>>18056414
Holy shit how can you even breathe with your IQ