/lit/ - Literature

Yeah, and?

>>18003775
you're an idiot if you think hell stops once you leave NEETdom. we are all suffering together down here

Good.

>>18003791
/thread

>>18003775
>You'll never link up with Spottem and Pooh
It's over bros

>>18003795

>>18003775
>be age 30
>still posting wojak memes on 4chan
Bro I’m 24 and I stopped posting wojak at 21, you don’t need to tell me your long passed help, lol

>Maybe you made the mistake of chasing your dreams a little too long, avoiding the previously mentioned shackles of responsibility.
And yet I have no choice but to carry on with this mistake. Too late for any traditional path, and every time I attempt one I find myself at the bottom of its caste system anyway.

>>18003775
You were never going to make it with this bugman attitude, 20 or 30 doesn't matter.

>>18003820
Same

>>18003815
back to facebook.

>>18003830
we are all going to make it

can you stop please

>>18003838
You and me, not OP

>>18003775
a lot of that shit is completely gay, but yeah I've been thinking about going innawoods if things don't work out.

>>18003839
Someone called faggot OP zoomer and now he needs to vent on imaginary people to ease his panic attack

>>18003775
Guys you should keep posting stuff like this so young ones see it and don't become this. I'm 28.

>>18003775
>incel fantasizes over grooming his imaginary daughter
Disgusting.

>>18003775

Demoralizing cunt. Nobody is stopping you finding a loving partner or enjoyable work at any age besides yourself and your self-pity. Also traveling alone tends to be a lot more based.

>>18003775
Believe me, god made you a favor of not letting you have a wife, a wife that feels you are emotional over her will instantly cuck you and take all your money, which is a far more worse ending than just being random guy without a job

Grass is always greener on the other side anon. You could have a wife that is cheating on your ass. Or a bad marriage. Life is tough in any case. You were lied to as a kid when they told you life was a dream. It's a prank we play on the young ones. Watching them realize the truth is the only thing that keeps us going to be honest. You'll learn.

>>18003775
>23
>dropped out of uni
>NEET, dreams are dead, no ambition, no drive
>do nothing all day
>tfw I can see my future in posts like these
bros i’m not going to make it

>>18003800
>tfw living in a dimension where Sneedemfeedem and Pooh chucksty never linked up
Sheeeeit

This is true OP, and I turn thirty quite soon and currently work part-time for minimum wage. It's strange because all the basic, simple truths of life (e.g., learn a skill) are now so clear to me that I wonder how I was so retarded to overlook them previously. However, it depends on what you want from life. Personally I don't desire much company, only enough money to feel secure and enough time to spend reading and so on. Ultimately you have to either invest in life and become very driven and sociable, or accept your lot and be grateful for it.

>>18003904
Have you tried having sex? Apparently that's supposed to fix jaded worldviews, racist beliefs, sexist beliefs, depression, etc. I'm surprised therapists don't hire sex workers for cases like yours. Imagine it: you go to the therapist. You vent about the decline of modernity or some other Ride the Tiger Evola mumbo jumbo. "Ahem, have tried...having sex? We have ermmm...associates who handle cases like yours."

Just join a monastery or something, it's all just meaningless in the end.

>>18003775
me in 10 years haha

>>18003935
This is bait but desu getting laid does relax you and make you happier

>>18003935
being myself doesn’t seem to work

despite your post resonating and irritating me in my current depressive mood, it isn't literature related in any way and it belongs on r9k you fucking cunt. Go and be sad somewhere else faggot

>>18003775
Nah you can still have a family as a man pretty much whenever. Just
>get in shape
>get some money
And find a 33 year old whose clock is ticking. Yeah it won’t the virgin from your fantasies but with a bit of luck you’ll love each other and make babies

>>18003904
Read this book

Men should not have families in their 20s wtf. You've just spent 12+ years being dominated by female authority figures in school, and now you want to rush to another culture of domestication, the marital home? You've yet to live at all. It's unfortunate that your development was stunted by this evil, artificial society, so that now you've got to spend your 20s reclaiming the life you lost to school-slavery, but it's nothing to feel guilty about.

>>18004004
This is unfortunately my future. I despise having to settle for sloppy seconds but this might be the only way

>>18004023
Unless you marry your high school gf you've deflowered at 16 you're getting sloppy seconds in any case.

>>18003775
read this if you are not 100% sure of going to heaven

>>18003937
They don't let just any loser join a monastery lol, there is a vetting process that OP would assuredly fail

>>18004004
This. I'm 40 and married my wife at 38. She was 32. We had a baby soon after. After we had the baby she asked me all this lovey dovey shit like if I loved her. I told her frankly no, and that I find her repulsive. I laid the truth bare to her. I told her I wanted kids, and so did she. Only she was washed up in the sex market from taking a different dick every couple of days. So no one wanted to marry, except me. But even then I was settling. Albeit she was settling too, but because of her life decisions no real man would ever want her for a wife or mother of their child. I told her ultimately her unchecked promiscuity and her blown out variegated semen stained vagina disgust me. I told her I would prefer it if she died quietly and left me and my child alone, and that frankly now that our child is no longer on the tit, we have no use for her.

I don't get why people on 4chan are so horny for virgins. Seems kinda gross desu.

>>18004076
why does it seem gross?

>>18004059

Sounds great anon, so happy for you guys.

>>18004076
do you like to eat secondhand food?

I think a lot of life is just sort of living. You don’t actually have to do anything. We have been raised to be aimless strivers and it shows. Houses, careers, hobbies. These are just means to an end and none of that really matters once you’re preparing die. The only thing that can really matter is other people but I’m afraid in that case, we commonly miss the moon for the finger.
https://youtu.be/LH1GFaw09hk

>>18004076
Everyone wants what they can't have

>>18004091

I don't want my girl to bleed on my dick and not know what to do.

>>18003830
>>18003838
These are powerful images, and I mean this sincerely. I don't care that it's an internet comic.

>>18004105
>bleed on my dick
grow up
>and not know what to do
you are there to teach her, but moreso to dominate and guide. you are a man, embrace the masculine force of strength and leadership. Unsurprising though, men these days like to get fucked up the arse by their girlfriends with dildos and convince themselves it isn't gay. Masculinity is dead in any meaningful sense

>>18004059
Incel fantasy, she would've divorced you that very moment

>>18004101
Life partners aren't food

>>18004127
Sexism too is dead, apparently

>>18004119
the latter i keep in my inspirational pictures folder, to which i keep a window open with a slideshow that changes to a new random picture every half hour
i don't care how cringe this is, it is an everpresent reminder in my life that i need to be strong and work hard to attain my goals

>tfw soon entering my 30s and I still look like a high schooler

It is a special kind of hell

>>18004135
And gained what? The life of a single mother and ruining the life of her child? She would never find another man. I control all our finances. If she planned to divorce me, I would withdraw a large portion of my income and burn it. I wouldn't be able to pay her alimony and I would refuse to pay it and spend the rest of my life in jail just to spit her. She knows this and knows divorce is futile.

>>18004173
Isn't this supposed to be good

>>18004161
Incomprehensibly based. We're going to make it, and we can never let ourselves think otherwise. And if silly drawings can help with that, there is no shame to be had in that.

>>18004177
You're not a good man.

>>18004076

>>18004184
>turns around and calls people onions for liking Harry Potter, Marvel, Rick & Morty, etc., etc., etc.

>>18004059
holy based

>>18003775
On the other hand you will never be cheated on and you will never get divorced and lose half your stuff so sounds like a pretty nice tradeoff

>>18004160
what? are you clumsily implying I'm sexist? fool

>>18004193
...dude on the top left is like a 250lbs version of me. I weigh 130lbs...Is it truly that hopeless for me?

>>18004059
it is unimaginable that anyone feeling this way could stand to live with such a woman, and it is also unimaginable that anyone like those would even want a child in the first place, esp. a child with a woman they feel like that about.

dump em pls

>>18004127

You sound like you think about men a lot. To each his own bro

>>18004196
I've done no such thing.

However, there is a certain sincerity and organic-ness to these crudely drawn/hampered together images which Marvel movies or television shows certainly don't have.

>>18003896

you sound like a rapist. Where do you live, btw?

>>18004223
meant for >>18004161

>>18004193
Reminder that she got pregnant with the ginger's child and then the guy
sitting on the right was arrested for mistreating the baby
https://eu.jacksonville.com/story/news/local/2020/03/25/jacksonville-man-jailed-in-abuse-of-5-week-old-baby/112253316/

>>18004023
“You ain’t gonna find a girl who ain’t had her hymen broke”

>>18004236
>heh yur talking about what men should be yu must be a fag lol gottem
shut the fuck up, maybe make a decent contribution for once outside of being utterly snide

>>18003820
well said. me to a T

>>18004277
Whoa relax chadopolous

>>18004277
>snide
>snied
>sneed
Interesting.

>>18003775
The part you are missing OP is what kind of life would your children or grandchildren even have.

>>18003775
What the fuck do people mean when they say “learn a skill”? What kind of skill? And no, go to uni is not a skill.

>>18003791
fpbp

>>18003775
Larger age gap was typical in harsher selection pressure times — thank the Klaus Schwab boomers of the world for this

>>18003815
You sound younger.

>>18003815
eat shit and die cocksucker

>>18004343
You are sneed.
I am chuck.
You seed and feed.
I suck and fuck.

>>18004004
You will have babies but you definitely won't love each other. It takes years to build a strong pair bond but the more romantic partners she has had, the weaker her pair bond ability is.
You might be thinking "Well, then I shall find some hag who didn't ride the cock carousel" but it is not so simple. You will never know her true body count even if she gives you a number so essentially you will be taking a great risk. Even if she had 1 or 2 romantic partners, it's not a good idea to have kids with hags since they will rush you into it before bonding which might result in divorce.
That's why any man, regardless of age, should never date a woman older than 25, ideally 18-22. You will be able to build a stronger bond with her in the years leading to having kids. The problem is finding a young girl willing to settle down but that's another topic.

>>18004375
>imagine the smell

>>18003775
Spend more time outside, get interested in the natural world. It helps.

>>18004498

Its even more quintessentially important for every person looking for love to develop a personality that prevents you from posting your ill-advised dating theories on an anonymous lit forum tho

i was in the mood for a sad sack thread so i read op's whole shit, wow that sucked.

>>18004604
It's not a theory, it's a fact. So tell me: if it's a fact, am I wrong?

>>18004642
post doi number of peer reviewed journal articles supporting pair bonding bullshit

>>18004399
Generally they mean something that you can use to make money. Carpentry or plumbing or some shit.

>>18004177
Eventually all this bile is gonna kill you

>>18004650
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pair_bond

There you go, cuck or slut

>>18004830
This says nothing about multiple romantic partners decreasing the chance of pair bonding or that it takes years to form one

>>18003775
Ah, this is cute.

Bukowski didn't "make it" till his 50s, Dave Wendy same thing, it's possible, not easy but possible

>>18004054
You're kidding, right? Many monastaries are going extinct simply because so few are interested in joining.

>>18004498
what the fuck

>>18003775
Wow so sad I cri

>>18004177
She will find a better man than you even picking the first random guy on the street.

>>18003935
It's true. Get your dick wet and somehow everything magically changes. Not. If you're in a fixed relationship then you'll certainly have less time to worry about the world going to hell, because you'll be dealing with all her crap and her friends and her expectations and her needs and her desires all the damn time, and you'll suddenly wake up one day when you're 45 and discover she's been fucking around on you anyway for excitement, and now the house is gone and you see the kids maybe once every week or two, and you look in the mirror and holy fuck, there's another one of those sad middle aged fat fucks staring back at you in the mirror.

But you did get to jizz in some woman's cunt a bunch of times, so that makes up for everything. Now try to remember what it was that you cared about all those years ago.

>>18003775
29 years without a girlfriend

I'm 25 right now. Should I just go back to school? I could seriously go get an English or econ degree or business degree. I did a little program when I was younger for IT related but idk I don't think I want that for my life anymore.

>>18003775
>25 and feeling all of this rn
I just want to go to sleep and not wake up. I beg for it. But of course there's no God, so there's no answer. Just me. Alone. Suffering in hell. Which this is- it has to be; hell.

Is "start with the greeks" a good tinder bio

>>18006140
start with the greeks is good for everything, bro. changed my life

I'm 22 and balding. Why should I care about anything but body-building and mid-century literature written by repressed homosexuals

how boring do you have to be to desire those things. how dumb do you have to be to think any of those things wont end in dissapointment.

just wait till u hit your mid 40s

You're literally causing you're own misery. Loneliness is a mindset.

>>18004105
that doesnt happen, femcels break their own hymens

>>18003775
>You’ll never be the object of a female’s erotic desire.
>You’ll never have a deep conversation with a partner who loves you as much as you love them.
>You’ll never hold your sick gf’s hair back while she throws up at 2AM.
>You’ll never have a chance to share your favorite hobbies with a daughter.
>You’ll never share inside jokes via text with your wife that always cause both of you to audibly chuckle.
>You will NEVER write a post-it note in your son’s lunch that simply says “I love you, Champ. -Dad”.
>You’ll never sit on the porch with your wife and sip lemonade, her head on your shoulder while watching the sun set as the kids run through the lawn sprinkler laughing and smiling.
>You’ll never have grandkids that stop by on random afternoons “just to say hi and see how you’re doing”.
>Retirement is expensive and you realize with a sinking heart that the "nevers" never stop, they only become more painful.


All this shit sounds lame, you must be white. Also, this is a literature board.

>>18003775
I'm 26, alone, reasonably happy with being alone, and I don't have any delusions of future grandeur. I'm just doing what I like doing. Be like me, bro.

>>18006140
change it to "start with greek sex"

>>18003775
my only goal in life is to hold down a job and stay sober. i'm 33 and doing both i'm happy.

>>18005969
ayyy

>>18005969
On the bright side anon you probably have the dad look now so you can bang 18 year olds at minimal expense

>>18006140
yea, if u look like David

>>18004498
Nah all of that is just memes

>>18003775
I often remind myself that we’re all puppets trapped in a decomposing cage of flesh and bone, with a million desires whirling around us at all times like sirens attempting to lure us to our doom. That these desires are nothing but the conjured demons of economics, society, and evolution and while they promise fulfillment they will only use you to their own ends, increasing their strength over you, leaving you a slave and a broken human. The world of phenomena is a test, projected by the noumena, and to conquer it you must conquer yourself.

Although I might try to convince myself that life has some external value, after a night drinking with “friends” or a sexual encounter with woman, it quickly becomes apparent that most friends are not worth having, and that woman’s sexual desires are so perverse and banal that their even having desired you bears the weight of a bad conscience. What man does not disgrace himself by submitting to a woman’s desires? He becomes a fool, a brute, a scoundrel, a cuckhold, all at once— and looses himself in the process. What man benefits from society? He devoured his life’s work to the machinations of warfare and industry, he trampled the earth, he becomes bound up in stories told to gullible children, he is sold slavery and like an idiot wears his chains with pride.

Service originates in the Latin word "Servi”, meaning slave. That’s what society, friends, woman the whole world, asks from you, your slavery. In English, the familiar for of “you”, “thou”, has long since died from the language. For those lonely men in Anglo countries seeking company, this should be (with honest reflection) enough proof that you will never find it. We live in a civilizational world-spirit which lacks even the words to express friendship, closeness.

There are two things in life worth their weight in gold: freedom and silence. How many men exchange these treasures for paper? Or for a soft touch of flesh? Or for some false sense of meaning to disguise their emptiness?

In books, there is the peace of forming a genuine connection with another person. If you cannot read, write. If you cannot write, read. If you are still lonely, hire a whore; it is less demeaning and less expensive than going to clubs. Logos is the breaking free of the soul from the flesh, embrace this and turn your eyes from the treachery of desire.

>>18006525
I look like those incel /pol/ shooters photos but hispanic

>>18006637
You can go two ways from here. Cholo gang member or latin lover.

>>18003775
there are worse things
than being alone
but it often takes
decades to realize this
and most often when you do
it's too late
and there's nothing worse
than too late

>>18006840
Damn, okay. I thought Bukowski couldnt stitch two lines together but here I am admiring a Bukowski poem. How life takes weird turns eh

>>18003904
I truly honestly recommend becoming a bum and hanging around in Slab City or the like
Better than just being Dopamine's Bitch

>>18004399
javascript code monkey webdev. completely soul-destroying shit only normie npcs who unironically look at instagram motivation pages can stomach.

>>18005496
These examples you gave are the exceptions to the rule. Most anons here can only aspire to having a family and maybe a stable job. Since we re on a /lit/ I suggest you read "the sailor who fell from grace with the sea". Then you ll understand what I mean.

>>18006857
Not only is it a meme but it doesnt make money like it used to. Oversaturation of the job market does this sometimes

>>18004604
>Its even more quintessentially important for every person looking for love to develop a personality consisting of mindless & fearful submission to contemporary western socially accepted norms and morals that prevents you from posting your misogynistic, problematic dating theories on an anonymous lit forum that all women irl can instantly detect with their misogyny detectors tho
ftfy

>>18004650
go back to rddit npc cuck slave.

>>18006472
das rite nigga AYO BIX IT BIX IT UP NIGGA MUFUGGING BIX

>>18006540
well said

>>18006540
Most based post on this board

>>18003775
Don't be fooled OP, there is only one thing worth living for and that is Truth. When you are in your deathbed only this will bring you peace of mind, it's not your loving wife, not your children and grandchildren, not your weatlh. The only thing that will bring you solace and fullfilment is even a tiny glimpse of the eternal, unchanging Truth.
Once you attain such a state you will understand the purpose of everything and why life is worth living, until you start your journey there you will remain confused and alone.
Read philosophy and theology, meditate, pray, stay in contact with nature and reflect until it all makes sense.

>>18003931
>It's strange because all the basic, simple truths of life (e.g., learn a skill) are now so clear to me that I wonder how I was so retarded to overlook them previously
could you elaborate a little?

>>18004059
this sounds like the short story Gimpel the Fool

3DPD are disgusting whores. I prefer 2D women.

>>18006945
Nevermind this is the most based post on this board>>18007096

>>18003775
Idk man I lift weights and go trail running and ride my bicycle every day and desu I dont have much in common with other humans

I'm anti social

>>18007144
For a long time I essentially remained detached from the world. In my teens I was a reclusive, coddled, naive and resentful person who judged my comfortable and well-rewarded life to be something I was entitled to just because. Then in university I only earned good grades due to an intense anxiety to pass tests, only really engaging with and appreciating the things I read late on during regular visits to the library. I was not ready for the adult world, which requires a person to take on responsibility, to treat others as fellow-sufferers, and above all to sacrifice the wants of my instincts (copious leisure time, praise, attention) for the needs of adult life (a steady income, a set of useful skills which are traded for a salary, a personality which is reliable, diligent and sane. I look back at my younger days (up until the age of about twenty-five, really) with intense embarrassment, because for much of this time I dwelled in fantasy and delusion because I was not strong or brave enough to face the world head on and accept the the fact that reward comes from sacrifice and hard work, not from a perceived "good character" or pitiful childishness - in short I was essentially still a child who viewed the world as an oppressive place in which I was worthy of reward simply for not taking part in it. My desire at that time was just to disappear into the wilderness and live completely alone, which may have been useful as a learning experience but in my own case highlights the kind of solipsism and weakness evident in my character and perspective. At this point, approaching thirty, I see the world in much simpler terms, somewhat brutal terms, but ultimately rational terms; that is, for a man to earn a good living he must offer something that other men cannot. One man becomes a plumber, another an accountant; each has use for the other - nobody has use for the child in the house who cannot perform any distinct form of labour and who possesses no skills gained by years of investment and sacrifice. Sacrifice is perhaps the key word here. The luxury of potential is one desired by many people; to have hair on your head and have the option of styling it this way and that, to have the time and money to choose this or that holiday destination, to be attractive enough to choose this or that partner; but in terms of earning a living the luxury of potential must be sacrificed for the necessity of specialisation, or in other words there comes a point where hesitating over choosing this or that career must come to an end, and you have to limit yourself considerable and accept whatever fate you have decided in terms of what skills you learn in return for a steady income. That isn't to say you can't retrain, but to not choose any career, to learn no skills, to remain as useless as a child in society's eyes can be a deeply embarrassing and shameful thing when you reach my age. Sacrifice and commitment are necessary to mature.

>>18007630
It's not a big deal bro nobody is alive for very long bro just smoke a doob and go fishin or somethin

>>18003775
>You will NEVER write a post-it note in your son’s lunch that simply says “I love you, Champ. -Dad”.
that's pretty gay bro

>>18003830
>>18003838
>milking goes to 'king'
Extremely uplifting edit

>materialism
>hedonism
>worldly success

Seek the Graal, friends.

>>18003775
>You're not in any position to waste time and money on fun anymore.
It is ONLY incel virgin solitary losers who have time and surplus money to do whatever the fuck they want and go on random 2 weeks trip to Africa or Central Asia.

>reading the rest of your drivel
Holy fuck, seriously go hang yourself and stop shitting up the board.

t. forever alone autist

>>18006857
>>18006861

It's not that bad, I guess.

>>18003838
yes

YES

>>18008455
The bee
He destroyed his cage
yes
YES
The bee is out

Sort of related to thread topic.

So for the past few weeks I’ve been going on an hour long walk in the local park (a nature reserve very pretty) to burn a few hundred extra calories because I’m on a cut. On these walks I sometimes see qt girls from the local uni.

Is it worth trying to chat them up?

This is the only place I ever see girls irl anymore because my job is remote and I live in a blue state. Bit worried I could get into some sort of trouble at the park though since you’re supposed to wear masks near people and be careful, plus these girls are most definitely all lefties so they might freak out if I tried.

>>18008472
might as well give it a shot

>>18008472
>can't see a girl without thinking about politics
Wow

>>18008472
>plus these girls are most definitely all lefties so they might freak out if I tried.

why is that a negative? THOTS need a good patrolling now and again

>>18008483
>>18008485
I’m worried I might get banned from the park and won’t be able to go on comfy walks there anymore.

Never forget that for thousands of years, all across the world, the most developed cultures have put great emphasis on the chastity of it's clerics and priests. It's no coincidence most of the sages of all ages remained celibate.
If you distract yourself with worldly affairs you will never reach trascendence. Everything you regret not having would be a hindrance on your spiritual path.
The only problem would be if you neglect both the spiritual and the worldly affairs, but if you focus seriously on the former, the later shouldn't even be on your mind.
Follow the advice of >>18007096, devote yourself to learning, contemplation and meditation and you will never feel alone.

>>18003904
Listen here you fucking retarded asshole
You can literally throw your life around
I was virgin kissless heavily balding until 24
I never kissed a girl before 24
I started lifting at late 23 and made crazy gains in 6-10 months of lifting
Started taking care of myself
Slept in my car for 8 months because I needed to save money while working shitty helpdesk job
Traveled the world lived in Tokyo for a few months and then in Russia and then back to Europe
Started becoming confident due to life experience
Met a girl
Doing good now

you don't want to stand in front of death not having fought the full fight

>>18009284
>balding at a young age
ouch me too bro. how’d you manage to live in tokyo for a few months?

>>18004059
Wow sounds great! Give her my regards - happy life!

>>18006032
Well what do you want

>>18009294
I saved money by living in my car and then bought the cheapest plane ticket i could find
Then I just went there found a super cheap room and stayed there for a while

>>18009324
What did you do around there alone?
Did you go to bars by yourself and just try and pick up girls in English?
I find it hard to imagine myself doing something like that.

>>18008512
If you have absolutely no idea how to talk to women and to judge the vibe of a person or situation without trying to force things then you are likely to alienate them, because they'll be uncomfortable and you'll have no idea. If you can figure out/already know how to have conversation without alienating strangers then go for it. If you just want a little contact then try greeting people as you pass them and then building up to making a little small talk about a non charged e.g. not politics topic before continuing on your walk

>>18009348
I picked up smoking (best thing ever for my social life) and I went to bars and just started having a cigarette outside of the bars where people are smoking

When I saw a white person I greeted them immediately and that just kicks off conversations always
I also went highly buzzed (alcohol) so that I had confidence and just started talking to people
Just get over that first barrier
First I started talking to white dudes only and they introduced me to this thing called meetup dot com where you can find english speaking things everywhere in tokyo i really recommend it
And I just kinda went to these things and walked through tokyo
It's hard to describe how serene it is walking through a late night tokyo residential area and seeing an old man with a magnifying glass in his garden cutting a bonsai tree

amazing time of my life

didn't pick up that many girls though - just one actually; i walked into a bar and she just approached me said hi and i saw how much she wanted me and i just started kissing her on the spot before knowing her name and that was that

russia was WAY better for my social life though my god I love Russia

>Wow sounds great! Give her my regards - happy life!

My father got married at 39 and had 3 kids, soon he'll be a grandfather at age 70. He doesn't regret a thing. It's not over until its over.

>>18009375
In which city you were living in Russia? Also while being in Tokyo did you work somewhere?

>>18009419
I didn't work in Tokyo - I had saved 6 months of wages by living in my car for that period of time back home
>>18009419
Moscow (good to see but not much); Saint Petersburg (awesome); Nizhny Novgorod (insanely cheap; white; and good to meet girls)

Y’all niggers need to read Nabokov’s The Gift that is exactly about your type

>/lit/ - literature

>>18009284
based and truthpilled

>>18009284
god this feels good to read

I often remind myself that we’re all puppets trapped in a decomposing cage of flesh and bone, with a million desires whirling around us at all times like sirens attempting to lure us to our doom. That these desires are nothing but the conjured demons of economics, society, and evolution and while they promise fulfillment they will only use you to their own ends, increasing their strength over you, leaving you a slave and a broken human. The world of phenomena is a test, projected by the noumena, and to conquer it you must conquer yourself.

Although I might try to convince myself that life has some external value, after a night drinking with “friends” or a sexual encounter with woman, it quickly becomes apparent that most friends are not worth having, and that woman’s sexual desires are so perverse and banal that their even having desired you bears the weight of a bad conscience. What man does not disgrace himself by submitting to a woman’s desires? He becomes a fool, a brute, a scoundrel, a cuckhold, all at once— and looses himself in the process. What man benefits from society? He devoured his life’s work to the machinations of warfare and industry, he trampled the earth, he becomes bound up in stories told to gullible children, he is sold slavery and like an idiot wears his chains with pride.

Service originates in the Latin word "Servi”, meaning slave. That’s what society, friends, woman the whole world, asks from you, your slavery. In English, the familiar for of “you”, “thou”, has long since died from the language. For those lonely men in Anglo countries seeking company, this should be (with honest reflection) enough proof that you will never find it. We live in a civilizational world-spirit which lacks even the words to express friendship, closeness.

There are two things in life worth their weight in gold: freedom and silence. How many men exchange these treasures for paper? Or for a soft touch of flesh? Or for some false sense of meaning to disguise their emptiness?

In books, there is the peace of forming a genuine connection with another person. If you cannot read, write. If you cannot write, read. If you are still lonely, hire a whore; it is less demeaning and less expensive than going to clubs. Logos is the breaking free of the soul from the flesh, embrace this and turn your eyes from the treachery of desire.

>>18009284
>you don't want to stand in front of death not having fought the full fight
Full "fight" is also mental not mere normalfaggotory.

>>18009571
Of course we all have our own struggles

>>18004076
I think it's partly an american thing.

>>18009582
There is nothing subjective about philosophical struggles. Every man fights them. But most of people deal with them on a very superficial level. And your physical struggle is nothing if you haven't fought the mental fight.
Remember that Alexander cried like a bitch on his death bed. So don't underestimate death by saying you will pridefully stand in front of it if you will do [x].

>>18004399
They refer to abilities that actually keep society running, stuff that 99% of HR and office people take for granted.

Become a welder or an electrician, start your own business, do your job well and you'll have all the money you'll ever need. And you'll feel useful too, because you actually will be.

>>18003791
OP BTFO

>>18009284
what do you do now?

>>18006859
If you deliberately plan to be less than you are capable of being, then I warn you that you’ll be deeply unhappy for the rest of your life. You will be evading your own capacities, your own possibilities.

>>18003775

Me at 19:
>Oh no I'm gonna die a virgin.
>If I had a girlfriend I could deal with everything else.
>I just don't want to die without going down on a girl at least once
>Damn, someone knows how the asshole of my crush tastes like.
>Used to masturbate 3 times a day at worse and 1 time a day at best.
>Girl smiles at me on bus and I imagine life together.

Me at 29, after being in 2 long-ish relationships and a few smaller ones:
>I don't envy people in relationships anymore.
>Cringe remembering how I threw everything I had at those two relationships while the women were playing it safe.
>Still dealing with consequences of the bad endings of the relationships.
>Women can hurt you in ways you can't begin to imagine, way more than loneliness can.
>Still feel sad about being lonely, but it's not as bad.
>My greatest wish nowadays is just to be healthy and not get chronic diseases, beyond the ones I have.
>Become less horny all the time, masturbate once a week, or sometimes once a month. Don't even notice I didn't.
>Notice a lot of my angst related to relationships was from teenage hormones and lack of ways to blow off that steam.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still depressed, perhaps more than when I was younger, but none of it is related to women or relationships the way it was before.
I really wish I understood women cannot fulfill your life like this sooner.
If you're 20 and reading this, if you get a relationship, don't make the mistake that now everything will work out and be easy. Don't put your entire life or trust onto one partner. Don't spend all your money, effort or love to make someone happy. Your horny hormones will make you think and do very stupid things just to get laid.

If you don't find a relationship ever in your life, just remember a lot of what we see today is artificial and in different points in time in history there were plenty of people who went their entire lives being celibate. There is no right or wrong way to live life. Someone may call you a faggot or a virgin a million times, every second of every day, but the only person that can take your manhood away from you, is you. You were born a man and that will never change so long as you don't let it. Disregard societal expectations, disregard evolutionary selective pressures, and do whatever the fuck you want.

>>18009842
I work remotely from a very comfy apartment in a great neighborhood in Saint Petersburg Russia

I do IT work
Not because I love it but because with it I can have the life I want
I also have a wonderful girl with me who I'll probably marry soon

>>18003775
>You will NEVER write a post-it note in your son’s lunch that simply says “I love you, Champ. -Dad”.
Do Americans really lmao

>>18009953
Maybe. Two or three times at best, then it gets old, or then only when the kid has a big exam etc.

>>18003791
fpbp

>>18009941

What kind of IT job?

>>18009284
>balding until 24
wow. how'd you do it?

>>18009879
>>I just don't want to die without going down on a girl at least once
heh good times :)

>>18006859
reading that book when I was 17 I think unironically set me on the course of pursuing dreams at the cost of family/relationships. It hurts man, but when I feel like giving up I look back Ryuji and Noboru and feel an immense motivation to keep moving forward.

>>18006540
Where is this from? I have his essays, but I don't remember these.

>>18010189
that was OC

>>18010189
Not it is not from essays.
Found that pasta in the archive. Anon basically said what Schopenhuaer said many years ago. So I post it with photo of Schopenhauer.

>>18003775
I'm 28, working on a novel, employed at a menial part-time job, and this was kind of cutting personally until you tried to hammer in the sentiments with that mawkish imagery at the end. Maybe you're right-- maybe I wont make it. Idk. I guess writing a novel is the hill I've chosen to die on.

But what I can say for certain is that OP is a faggoy

>>18010220
Sorry anon it is not OC.

>>>/lit/thread/S13835549#p13837200
This is the original. You should read the story that same anon posted in that thread, very kino. He certainly had the potential.

>>18009846
First of all you dont know what my life is like. Secondly, if the average anon here has a hard time getting his dick wet you think he's going to excel against all odds?
I dont mean to set limits but for the love of god be a bit realistic with your expectations.
>>18010127
Thats an interesting take. What I got from the book was that Ryuji started to understand he ll not be great. Combined with falling in love he rejected the sea to live a quiet life. To me it seems Mishima transcribed the realization of the average that he ll probably never be great.

>>18010102
Junior DevOps
>>18010114
kek

>>18003775
>It’s over.
Good.

>>18010254
it seemed to me to be fundamentally about Ryuji being attracted to the Dionysian sea of chaos and glory, and all of that is essentially subdued by Noboru's mother. though he takes a happy life he rejects the loneliness of the boat whistle, that whistle being able to arrange the disparate pieces of his life into a whole and complete pattern from which he'll be forever alienated after marrying her. hence, Noboru (emblematic of childhood in generals) desires to kill him.

>19
>have no desire for a relationship
Have I ascended bros?

>>18009879
Good advice

>>18010359
yes unironically

The capitalist system says I am less valuable than Instagram influencers and OnlyFans whores.

>>18010359
You likely just have low testosterone and perhaps a slight developmental disorder too subtle to be diagnosed.
Do you have a lot of body hair? Does your dad? At what age did your parents have you? How often do you masturbate?

Things might change in your 20s, they might not.

test

>be me
>start hanging out with some cute girls that I’ve known for a while
>conversation is pleasant in the start
>some months pass
>I can’t take it anymore
>they keep talking about the most mundane shit, like traveling and what they ate at the fancy restaurant
>they also spend large chunks of their time watching netflix and try to get me to watch the office
>start avoiding them
>I’m at peace

What should I do bros? I’m an illustrator who spends 8 hours a day working on his craft, and another 4 on studying and reading. I don’t know how a woman could fit into my life, especially if they’re so unbearable

>>18004004
>>18004059
you only lose if you decide to give up, never is too late

wagmi bros

loneliness is really painful for me
i will try and see a doctor about antidepressants, i feel bad all the time
seeing young couples with children makes my chest hurt
wish i wasnt born i have not been enjoying this

>>18003775
This entire thread is cringe and belongs on r9k.

>>18010457
What would you rather they talk about? If someone tried to get all philosophical on me while we were just hanging out I probably wouldn't want to hang out with them again

>>18010423
You would probably be less valuable outside of capitalism too

>>18003775

Sounds lovely....

>>18010255
how does one get into DevOps? I have a BS in math but work in a low level supervisory position at an MSP's call center. pretty desperate to move up before my career hits a dead end

>>18010690
Probably true but I like to complain about how much I hate existence

>>18010683
I don’t know, I usually talk to my sister about nature, history, literature, and so on. I guess I find most women pretty boring when compared to her

>>18006857
>>18006861
I'm glad there's people on this site who agree with me for once

>>18004016
>men shouldn’t marry in their 20s
This is peak boomerism and one of the reasons the West is collapsing. This mentality is the reason why divorce are so high, why women are sluts and why there are so many incels.
>but muh freedom.
Freedom to smoke weed and play video games? To travel and fuck sloots? Is this how you assert your masculinity? Unless you are in the Navy or a monk, it should be mandatory to be married by the time you are 25.

>>18006840
You can't just disguise a Rupi Kaur poem with a picture of Bukowski. You're not fooling anyone

>>18007096
Agreed but family and friends can be accessories to truth.

>>18003775
Have you tried mail order bride?

>>18010910
How about the freedom to cultivate virtue? I never said anything about hedonism. Good luck becoming a man under the thumb of a girl. In the past by age 25 a man would have already been practicing his adult occupation for many years, his position is much more settled and stable than ours. Like I implied, it's not really a choice, we've been crippled by the institutions of today; and anyway in your 30s there will still be plenty of young girls around, so what's the problem. By the way, The West has always been host to a large cohort of women who marry late, and a smaller but still very significant cohort of women who don't marry at all.

>To the west of the Hajnal line, about half of all women aged 15 to 50 years of age were married at any given time while the other half were widows or spinsters; to the east of the line, about seventy percent of women in that age bracket were married at any given time while the other thirty percent were widows or nuns.[12] The marriage records of Western and Eastern Europe in the early 20th century illustrate this pattern vividly; west of the Hajnal line, only 25% of women aged 20–24 were married while to the east of the line, over 75% of women in this age group were married and less than five percent of women remained unmarried. Outside of Europe, women could be married even earlier and even fewer would remain celibate; in Korea, practically every woman 50 years of age had been married and spinsters were extremely rare, compared to 10–25% of women in western Europe age 50 who had never married.[3]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_European_marriage_pattern

>>18003815
eat a barrel of cock

>>18003815
>all these wojak posting tards raging
kek

>>18011447
>How about the freedom to cultivate virtue?
Gay as fuck desu

>>18011602
ngmi

>>18011688
I've already made it, don't care what you say

>>18011447
Most people won't cultivate virtue, but the humility and sense of caring for another person and being invested in the future (kids being a natural result of relationships) that comes with a relationship is the next best thing.

>>18011426
I have no way of proving this, but OP isn't the author of this post. I am. I think this is the third time I've seen it reposted. I think for a brief period there was actually a subreddit based around this post, but it was private and I couldn't get access. I would like to thank whoever reposted it the first time, I was in a profoundly dark place when I saw that, I had the note written out and everything, and you gave me faith in my capacity as a writer and a reason to keep going.

First, to answer your question: a coworker of mine introduced me to her niece who lives in the Phillipines. We hit off over the internet, and I believe it will work out. But since I'm me, nothing can ever be simple and covid prevents us from meeting in person. Shrug. Just another one of life's cruel jokes.

Where I was when I wrote this: I had moved across the country in hopes of restarting my life, and I had everything going for me. A new car, decent savings, and five years of experience in manufacturing which should have landed me a position with a decent company and provide me with an income to finally have my own place to think, read, and write in solitude. I have spent most of my life renting rooms and I just wanted my own kitchen so I could cook dinner without shuffling around other people's messes. Unfortunately, the job never materialized, I ran through my savings, and eventually took a job in private security at a gated community. Security guards and the privilege of wealth have a tendency to bring out the absolute worst in people, and I found myself on the receiving end of some pretty shitty behavior. I once watched a guy get murdered outside my apartment and then got chewed out for being late to work because I stopped to give a statement to the police.

Romantically, things weren't much better. I was trying tinder at the time and the results weren't awesome. The first message I got was "lol aren't you the security guy at my neighborhood?". I did hit it off with one girl, we moved things over to snapchat, she seemed eager to meet up and then snapped me a short video of her performing fellatio with the caption "take a hint." Perhaps I had that one coming, but you can imagine it hit pretty hard. So basically that's where I was when I wrote this post.

I don't know if I wrote all the cringe shit about holding back your gf's hair, but if I did then it embarrasses me to read it now. Things are better now, but they aren't good and never have been. I reflect on my past and see nothing but poverty, loneliness, rejection, shame and humiliation. I look to the future and see no path to happiness. Perhaps one day I will write a bestseller and become rich and famous, but who cares? Nothing can redeem the suffering I've endured. I continue writing in the hopes that I can grab society by the face and force it to see all that it has done and all that it has left undone.

If anyone cares or believes me.

>>18011917
>I did hit it off with one girl, we moved things over to snapchat, she seemed eager to meet up and then snapped me a short video of her performing fellatio with the caption "take a hint." Perhaps I had that one coming, but you can imagine it hit pretty hard.
What did it mean? She's a prostitute?

>>18011917
At least you're a good writer. Write up your life in a pdf and post it on here, I'd read it.

>>18012085
It either meant she wasn't interested in me and was just toying with me for a while because she liked the attention and sent the video in hopes of provoking an amusing reaction, or like you suggested, that it was a come-on of some sort.

If it was the second then I wasn't really interested in that sort of thing. I imagine it would be cool if you were hooking up a lot and this was just a side thing, but I hadn't gotten laid in five years and accepting scraps from the culture which has fucked over so many young men would have felt particularly degrading. And quite frankly I don't know how I would have felt if I'd gone for it and turned out to be wrong. "Damn, sexy lol. My turn next??" would have been a meme goldmine if she'd decided to post it around. I doubt she was a prostitute, I've used a few and this girl didn't know the lingo.

>>18011917
>>18012196
You know real life, anon

>>18012196
that's what you get for using Tinder.

>>18003775
Fuck off occult bad vibes faggot, we're doing just fine and we're ALL GOING TO MAKE IT

Keep working my bros, and never lose hope in your dreams

>>18012281
Life is a series of compromises, anon. The trick is to start compromising before life compromises for you. Right now you think tinder is for vapid sluts, even if the profile says "no hookups, looking for a serious relationship." So you don't do it. You're not gonna be forced to deal with endless superficial discussions about wokeism and netflix just for a chance to be dude #17 in her premarital monotony-spree (totally not a slut, all those guys were my boyfriend!). That's not good enough for you. You think something will happen in real life, and it'll be more "authentic" or "romantic" or whatever. But it doesn't happen.

A few years down the road. You think foreign brides are for awkward white men with a creepy schoolgirl fetish. Besides, the chinese don't speak your language and you'd never be able to seriously connect, especially because you like books so much and need a partner who can discuss them. And you're certainly not that, but maybe you're willing to settle for an American girl who's willing to at least watch the films you recommend so you can get the depth of discussion you feel like you need to be content. Except now you're older, balder, too serious and mostly sober. So it doesn't work out, no one's interested.

So now you're 35, looking at foreign girls. Same problems you had before, a shitload of single moms, you're too old to attract a young girl naturally, you'll have to lure her in with money, and you don't have enough of that to be competitive. Trust me, my dad's a millionaire and he got a single mom. Maybe ten years ago you could have gotten a nice attractive housewife, five years before that you could have been successful on tinder, five years before that you could have been happy with the greasy nerd girl who always made excuses to talk to you in the hallways at school. Who fucking cares.

If you want a relationship anon, you need to settle while you can still compete at the top of the lower end of what you're willing to settle for. A message to all anons: try foreign dating while you're still young. I promise you won't be any more disappointed than you already are.

>>18012405
What a miserable mentality to live by. No wonder you don't get laid.
Stop worrying so much about status and what kind of relationships are socially acceptable or not and just have a relationship. Fuck.
You're a man, stop acting like you just hit menopause. Be more assertive. If you know what you want in life you can have it, there's not some hard dead line where if you haven't settled down by 20 you'll never feel true love. That's insane.
There are so many male sex icons who are not only old, but downright repulsive. You act like women view men the way men view women and as long as you have this mentality you'll never understand women.

>>18012405
don't listen to this coddled rich kid. taking foreign wives who can only barely speak your own native language (if even that) can work for chinese man in the mountains taking in a viet wife who had an even poorer background but more often than not the language barrier will spell many years of awkwardness and discomfort
and who tf immediately jumps from tinder to mail order brides instead of reasonable options like finding a local hobby co-ed hobby meetup group or volunteering to meet some people?

>>18003775
We're born alone, we die alone. That's just how it is. Come to terms with it or not, it wont be any other way.

>>18003775
>It was easy to ignore the nagging voice at the back of your head, saying that everyone your age are established in careers, buying houses, starting families.
lol everyone I know my same age is in the same boat.

Quit being such a drama queen. Life sucks when it sucks. Regardless of your age. It sucks when you're very young and helpless and it sucks when you're very old and helpless. Otherwise you just exist and burn time. Fight till your last breath pussy.

>>18012468
>If you know what you want in life you can have it, there's not some hard dead line where if you haven't settled down by 20 you'll never feel true love. That's insane.
I get that I'm still young and have potential, hence why I'm in a long-distance relationship and working on my writing. When I said earlier that "nothing could redeem my suffering" I wasn't talking about romantic loneliness. I was talking about a childhood of gnawing hunger, begging classmates for scraps of lunch and stealing after school. I will never shake the feeling that the world owes me something, I will never forget the things I've had to do just to get what everyone else gets for existing.

Which is pretty much a short biography of my life. If you think you can solve all your problems by being "assertive", if you think you can expect all the benefits of Hollywood glimmer to make you seem attractive when you're 60, if you think you can simply choose how your life is going to be, then brace yourself for a lifetime of disappointment.

>>18012646
You can't insulate yourself against misfortune and misery no matter how hard you try. You can make all these lame compromises and nurse your weird mentality of needing to compromise based on past experiences, and you can give your whole life chasing some shitty ideal of a compromised existence with a woman you sort-of love and a job you sort-of like and at the end it all still goes bottom up and she leaves you and you lose your job and end up in the poor house.

Do what you want and appreciate what you have, that's all any of us can do. Your attitude where life is a dichotomy between 'a nice attractive housewife' and 'creepy white men with a mail order bride' is an Eliot Rodger tier view of the world.

Look I get that being hungry sucks, yeah boo hoo you had to beg for food and your millionaire dad didn't help you out, but don't be such an emasculated bitch about it. Some of the most simple and pleasant moments in life are found lying in the bed of ugly single mothers and scamming a bit of food out of someone's mouth but you need to be able to let go of your ego and inane view of life as some superficial contest over who has the hottest most submissive wife in order to appreciate these things.

And yeah, maybe most women don't want to marry a dirty old man, but if you'd ever bothered getting to know any women you'd realize that it's a lot more common than you think. In fact, if you'd ever had any sort of long term sexual relationships you'd realize that half the thrill from sex comes from doing something you're not supposed to, and that ugly single moms and shy immigrants who can barely speak your language are the ripe cheese of not only sexual encounters but interpersonal relationships as well. The only reason you fetishize this vapid highschool romance housewife shit is because you feel like its something inaccessible to you, and this attitude ironically dooms you to have nothing but shitty relationships with women that you view as some sort of compromise for sub-prime pussy. Its a sociopathic way to look at sex and theres no way you'll ever have a decent romantic life with your mindset.

Old Loser here.

Just became a neet again this march after 9 years of working in store. Gonna need to find something again soon because I refuse to ask money for my crap and refuse to waste my savings. I hope to god I pick a trade or go back to school in the future. Unfortunately women and children are something that I will have to accept will never happen.

>>18003775
make sure you find a way to record your suicide

>>18003791
fpbp

>>18012743
I appreciate you trying to reach out to me, and I have to say you have a lot of general good advice but if you knew more about my personal situation you'd probably get where I'm coming from and why it kinda rings hollow for me. I think something got lost in translation with my girlfriend situation, I like my girlfriend and she brings me a lot of joy, and I recognize it's this sort of refusal to compromise that's brought me to where I am, my frustration comes from realizing that I could have had a better version of this a long time ago instead of holding out for something better. The OP was a response to some guy on /fit/ who was scared of getting "trapped" in the traditional suburban 9-5 life, I was trying to make him realize what a blessing that type of lifestyle could be.

I try to be a positive person, and I strive not to let my negativity bleed into work and friendships, because that's what 4chan is for. Quite frankly I'm embarrassed that I let myself get so worked up in this thread, but every time I see my little rant posted someplace, half of the replies are people telling "OP" to just suck it up. I felt compelled to defend my viewpoint, it's a result of a long life filled with disappointment.

Just the other day I had kind of a weird realization that every time I count a blessing, that blessing seems to vanish. A few months ago I had trouble with my car. I spent three weekends sliding around in the dirt and mud in the freezing cold to fix it, constantly trying to arrange rides back and forth to work, and the repairs were only half successful, but then last week I was driving down the road feeling bitter about something and I decided to remind myself that my car was at least functioning correctly. At that precise moment the "check engine" light pops on.

So I start thinking "at least I have my dog with me" and as soon as I get home, I get a text from my landlord saying my dog can't stay. Worse things have happened to better people but I can't help but suspect that the universe has some sort of personal grudge against me. Like it's hellbent on depriving me of any small pleasure I might find.

>>18003775
“Youll never spend your life living normie psyop”

>>18010932
It's from his book "War all the Time" retard

>>18007630
I'd honestly rather kill myself than be content with the life of slavery you seem to be so proud of. I think I'll dick around as pitiful child a bit longer though.

>>18010910
Freedom to actually pursue risky things and not be tied down a women and kids just as you're getting started in life.
>marry at 25 and then be mediocre bro, get your wage job, get a mortgage, put aside any and all ambitions that doesn't involve work promotions or what Hawaii resort you'll take for family for their yearly 4 day vacation
I know a bunch of people who got married and have kids between 18-25, all of them were miserable and had to give up every single one of their goals in life because taking a risk when you're 25 with no dependents and taking a risk when you're 25 with a kid is two completely different things. Sorry, i want to do things in my life and I will not subject a child to the consequences if I fail. If I had a kid they would become the #1 priority before anything. I will play it safe

>>18012743
>ome of the most simple and pleasant moments in life are found lying in the bed of ugly single mothers and scamming a bit of food out of someone's mouth
The demoralization is complete kek what a pitiful creature

>>18003791
Holy fucking based fpbp

You don't even need to be a loser for this to ring true.

>make 150k salary and homeowner at 26
>have had sex with many women
>very fit
>have friends
>objectively intelligent
>varied hobbies
>net worth 250k and rising
>still no gf
>still depressed and lonely most days

>>18004498
I can smell the fingers that typed this post

>>18004216
stop with this self defeating faggotry, searching for approval from online internet strangers. its never hopeless

>>18011447
Yeah, but back in the day those women didn't have Twitter and weren't polluted by feminism.
>we've been crippled by the institutions of today
speak for yourself, I picked a good degree and by the age of 25 I had already been in my profession for 3 years. Now I am 27, making good money, working extremely good hours. I invest my money wisely
>freedom to cultivate virtue
This is cope and you know it. You can cultivate any virtue whilst having a family. Unless you marry a sociopath, of course.

>>18013244
And what are these risking things? What are these goals?
Want to write the Great American Novel? Most great writers had kids before they were successful.
Want to be a musician? You can still do that while you have kids.
Want to make a lot of money? Having kids will motivate you to do so.
Want to start a revolution and you think you're kids are holding you back? Serge and Trotski wouldn't agree with you.
The thing is that if your goals are worthwhile, your family and kids will motivate you to achieve them. I am not saying marry a bougie American slut who only cares about keeping up with the Joneses, marry someone who shares your values. Yes, yes, I know that this is hard to do, but that's because most women are waiting to marry Prince Charming when they are done riding the cock carousel (around age 31).


>get a mortgage
I guess that in the US, the situation is pretty hopeless. I started my adult life as a homeowner, and got a really good loan (not a mortgage) to buy an apartment that we are now renting.

>>18004103
underrated

>>18003775
I mean, you could always become a criminal. I imagine breaking into people’s houses is quite fun. Bring along some poison so you can kill yourself if the cops start closing in. I mean, if you can’t be the hero of your own story better to be the villain/final boss of someone else’s. I’ll probably start engaging in criminal activity if my novels don’t go anywhere. Society has made it so there just isn’t any other way. I can’t find a woman I like. I can’t find people I want to be friends with. I have friends, I get girls, but it never means anything permanent.

>>18003775
I mean, you could always become a “griefer in Minecraft”. I imagine breaking into “NPC’s” houses is quite fun. Bring along some poison so you can kill yourself if the cops start closing in. I mean, if you can’t be the hero of your own story better to be the villain/final boss of someone else’s. I’ll probably start engaging in criminal activity if my novels don’t go anywhere. Society has made it so there just isn’t any other way. I can’t find a woman I like. I can’t find people I want to be friends with. Satan rules America and there’s no point in fighting it. Trying to make the world better or trying to find a girl to marry is impossible for the average guy these days. Best to just contribute your share of destruction rather than swimming against the tsunami like a retard.

Faggot janny, you have deleted multiple threads recently but have not deleted this one, despite it having absolutely nothing to do with literature. Why?

>>18010723
/r/itcareerquestions unironically has a lot of great advice