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Any books that will help me turn my life around?

>> No.17998650

>>17998642
No, Happiness comes from within OP.

>> No.17998663

The Bhagavad Gita

>> No.17998664

>>17998642
No. This is a meme to sell self-help books.
If you are driving down the street and realize you are going the wrong direction, do you seek a book to help you turn the car around?
No, you just turn.

>> No.17998671
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17998671

‘Round where?

>> No.17998673

>>17998664
But sometimes you need a map to tell you which direction to turn anon

>> No.17998680

>>17998664
if you bought one of those fyodors guides and skimmed it first you wouldnt have wasted your life going on that street in the first place tho

>> No.17998682

>>17998671
Use this list if you're a woman.

Otherwise, >>17998663 along with the Greeks. You can try the Buddhist teachings as well to see if they're for you.

>> No.17998695

Peterson's work legitimately helped me stop drinking and doing drugs and go back to college and start good habits

But the pathetic antisocial communist worms on this board don't like the fact that he actually does help people

Also Nietzsche, Ray Peat, RSDTyler

>> No.17998698

>>17998671
Kys
>>17998642
Nope.

>> No.17998702

>>17998671
Epicurus is honestly a much better entrypoint into stoicism than Marcus Aurelius, but what the fuck do these social movement books have to do with fixing your shit as an individual?

>> No.17998712

>>17998682
>Nietzsche
Nice try nigger, i don't even give a shit about butterfly but that's just bullshit and so is buddhism's life-denying philosophy.

>> No.17998718

>>17998712
>buddhism's life-denying philosophy.
You haven't read any Buddhist doctrine. My guess is you just took Nietzsche or Schopenhauer at face value.

>> No.17998738

>>17998663
This

>> No.17998750

I've been reading through all the books everytime they're posted in these types of thread and they have been a waste of time

>Bro just like don't be sad
>Just do don't bad things
>Wake up and like do good things and don't do bad things
That's literally every book posted spread out over 500 pages

>> No.17998761

>>17998750
That's all good advice though

>> No.17998773

>>17998761
It's obvious advice. No one needs to be told that shit and it's literally the only advice given.

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17998776

>>17998680
Like Fyodor's Guide to the Underground, for example? Perhaps The Gambler's Guide to German Towns? I should note that the House of the Dead only has half a star in Fyodor's guide so don't stay there.

>> No.17998791

>>17998702
I asked the OP a question.
Odd how OPs always disappear

>> No.17998806

>>17998663
>The Bhagavad Gita
>>17998682

What a trip. Very dangerous book. Anons should be careful about this one as it's been known to create some very strange interpretations within some reader's minds.

>> No.17998826

>>17998695
I had him as a prof. He refused to give me an extension when my dad died (and bitched me out for going directly to him instead of messaging the TA first). Still, I ended up getting the paper finished and getting an A.

>> No.17998833
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17998833

>>17998718
>Dude just detach yourself from your emotions, don't act at all and don't think about things that bother you because we need to avoid sUffEriNg and the ego is an illusion lmao.
Only cucks would follow that shitty mentality.

>> No.17998838

>>17998695
>RSDTyler
This dude gives off some strong used car salesman vibes and I feel like following his advice would give you the personality of Patrick Bateman.

>> No.17998845

>>17998833
>frog
>dumb and uneducated strawman
>uses cuck without irony
get better, shut up or go back

>> No.17998867

>>17998845
Then REFUTE the argument or GTFO i don't care if you find it offensive.

>> No.17998903

>>17998833
>Only cucks would follow that shitty mentality.
I agree. It's a shame it's not the Buddhist mentality, which is what we were supposedly discussing.

>> No.17998911

>>17998671
>totally not a troll list

>> No.17998946

>>17998911
Good books that turned my life around.
Still waiting for OP to get out of the bathroom and check his thread.

>> No.17998975

>>17998826
rip your dad, anon.

>> No.17999112

>>17998642
12 Rules for Life unironically

>> No.17999147

>if unhygienic
shave beard/mustache/unibrow
bathe everyday
brush teeth at least once a day
>If fat
Target 180 pounds-borderline of overweight
One 1000 calorie meal a day, 24hour fasting, Sun-Thurs
Eat and drink whatever you want on Fri/Sat
Stay incredibly hydrated, no exercise necessary
You will be hungry for the first months, then the part of your brain that feels hunger dies
Weigh yourself everyday, write it down, activate video game monkey brain that enjoys decrementing numbers
This is stable but NOT “healthy”
You are not trying to be healthy
You are trying to not be fat
This is “healthier” than being fat
>If unfashionable
Go out in public, and a take quick mental note of the styles of clothing "normies" are wearing, not HOT people, normal people
Don't copy but emulate
Don't have to buy expensive, in fact first wave or two of clothing purchase should be cheap and experimental
>If no friends
Join an intermural bar sports league (ie: ping pong/cornhole)
Should be once a week, should be team oriented.
Drink and talk to your teammates
>If unsociable
Being social means carrying around a story that you share with people
Ideally 1-3 funny anecdotes about your week
"There was a hobo doing kung fu in the intersection on my way to work"
"I went to the mailroom to get my package and got trapped in by a huge oiled up bodybuilder"
Going outside and interacting with humans is how you generate stories.
>If uncomfortable in public/talking to strangers
Once a week pick a local quiet bar
Go during early daytime weekday hours when the drinks are cheap and only the bartender's there
Sip your drink, soak in atmosphere, meditate
Occasionally without being annoying or interrupting their duties tell one of your amusing stories to the bartender when they're idling
Just the one at first, listen to their response, chat a bit and go back to meditating
If you see them again then next week acknowledge it
leave after an hour or an hour and a half

>> No.17999152

>if virgin
Objective is to destroy stupid virgin mythological spiritual idea of sex
Sex is dumb and gay and meaningless unless you're in a relationship
So fuck some tinder fats and uglys to destroy that very stupid idea of pussy being magical
download tinder, swipe right on anything that doesn't make you vomit
there are plenty of smooth faced heavy nerdy latina/white chicks just trolling for dick
you will be progressively more successful the less fat/more cleaned up/more sociable you are
Do NOT catch feelings for a practice hoe. Don’t worry, you’re just practice for her too.

MATCH, 2-3 messages about hobbies/current events/her profile (always end with a question to reel her back in), THEN "Do you want to get a drink at [cool local bar/cocktail place] this [Thursday] at [7]?" DO NOT ASK HER WHERE OR WHEN. HAVE A PLACE AND TIME.
9 times out of 10, she'll think "no" and never respond. MOVE ON
At drink, in between her talking about herself, tell your funny stories
You are “not there to fuck”, don’t get sexual or talk about sex. Don’t touch her first date.
After 1-2 drinks or an hour or two, lean in and ask "Do you wanna make out?"
Those are the simple magic words.
They are magic because they are casual, and non-threatening.
You're not asking for sex, you are asking to make out.
Women want to know they have the power to abort or escape at any point and maintaining this safe feeling throughout your meetup is important.
Making out is low stakes and feels abortable even though it means “Lets be alone in my apartment.”
While making out, grab some tit and rub her inner thigh.
If she’s reluctant, pull back and remind her it only goes as far as she wants.
If she leaves, she leaves, you’ve made tremendous progress.
If she stays, move to the bed, wrap it up, put it in. If you cum too fast, just finger her or eat her out
Don’t go on more than 2 dates with her without making explicitly clear you want nothing more than a fuckbuddy

NEVER admit you’re a virgin.
NEVER qualify/apologize/admit your sexual inexperience without being asked. She can tell and it’s part of why she picked you and why youre non-threatening.
If she does ask, just casually say you’re not very experienced and dont dwell on it. If she’s alone with you in an apartment, she’s still considering fucking you.
Most of the people in the world are not having shittons of porno-style sex. You are just another another normal guy who doesn’t fuck very often.

>> No.17999191

>>17998642
None. Just accept your end.

>> No.17999359

>>17999152
this is fucking disgusting. The advice is real but that's what makes it so horrifying that this is where we are

>> No.17999719

>>17999152
I honestly want to see the world completely annihilated with all the greatest works of art because mankind made romance so mechanical and optimised.

>> No.17999723

>>17998826
Cool story, bro.

>> No.17999987

>>17999152
>After 1-2 drinks or an hour or two, lean in and ask "Do you wanna make out?"
Am I virgin, or does this really work?

>> No.18000052

>>17999987
I’m not him, and I’m still a virgin but that does work lmao. I’ve made out a couple of times and I’d always ask before doing it. Idk if that’s autistic or not but it works for me

>> No.18000065

>>17999152
How do I make out?

>> No.18000071

>>17999152
>Remind her it only goes as far as she wants
This bastard is stealing my moves. Don't spread this shit around, I only get laid by seeming "different than other guys."

>> No.18000096

>>17998642
There isn't one.
If your looking for some old dude who wore a suit to tell you whats wrong with your life maybe try The Conquest of Happiness by Bertrand Russel.

>> No.18000109

>>17998642
Your own. Learn something.

>> No.18000124

>>17998671

Stop spamming this worthless list, you ugly tripcoded bitch.

>> No.18000251
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18000251

There isn't a book. I spent years reading as much about philosophy and religion as I could, and it did nothing but make me even more sick, weak and lost. Unironically becoming /fit/ was the best thing I ever did. I am not saying reading is worthless, but you can only act upon and appreciate ways of living if you first have some internal order and discipline.

>> No.18000401

>>17999147
>>17999152
Holy based, do you have anything more? I don’t even think I’m that autistic and I still found some gems here.

>> No.18000417

>>17998642
There are none I’m afraid. It’s ultimately up to you whether you make the change or not. However, Nietzsche comes close as he changes your perspective on pain, suffering and struggle and paint them as crucial for having a rich life and cause growth.

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18000716

Get fit, eat healthy. Try some of these. Youtube videos may also help, like David Goggins or Jordan Peterson. Good luck.

>> No.18000751

>>17999987
Depends on the delivery.
It should be casual, like it completely doesn't matter whether she says yes or no.
You're just asking because it would be fun and she's hot.

She is more likely to say "yes" if she feels comfortable enough to say "no".

It should not be said like you're James Bond or some shit.

>>18000065
Put your lips against hers and just match whatever she's doing.

>> No.18001169

>>18000716
I dont get all this "become a superman" malarkey,
you do realise that if you step out of the system to this degree, you're going to jail?

>> No.18001264

>>18000065
All kissing is is just putting your lips together, I always thought it was way more complicated. Like the other anon said just follow her lead, keep your eyes closed, don’t do anything with your tongue she doesn’t do. You’re a red blooded human, whether or not you’ve kissed someone before you know how to do it, shits just ingrained. The important thing is to not get in your head and overthink it.

The other part of making out is moving your hands around, if it’s just casual keep it to her back, hair, and face. Just really light caressing kind of stuff you know. This is another thing where you can just kinda follow her lead. You can keep your hands to the side, see where she puts her hands and do the same at different intervals/pattern. Again don’t think too hard about it

>> No.18001439

You need to read books that will force you to think of yourself not as fixed entity, a "person", but as a series of adaptive mechanisms and systems that have simply been wired for a specific input and that now must be consciously manipulated for other purposes. Only then you can effectively change who you are.

>> No.18001452

>>18001169
Kek

>> No.18001479

>>17998680
>fyodors guides
What’s a fyodor guide?

>> No.18001551

Balls Deep by Cal Newport

>> No.18001568

>>18001439
Ok which books?

>> No.18001578

>>17998702
Becoming a better individual only happens in relation to becoming a better group

>> No.18001603

>>17998791
You asked a retarded dad question, bro. Clearly, to anyone literate in the English language, turning one life around means that they want to make a change for the better. Disengenuous twats like you only confuse, obfuscate, and make things worse

>> No.18001637

>>18001439
>series of adaptive mechanisms and systems that have simply been wired for a specific input
So a bug man?

>> No.18001658

>>17998642
The Holy Bible

>> No.18001666

>>17998642
Hermann Hesse's Siddhartha

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18001677

>>17998642

>> No.18001728

>>18001439
Please list books

>> No.18001732

>>18001568
>Ok which books?
WTF would you need books for that. Just reread the comment dumbass

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18001761

>>17998702
Define success as an "individual"?
>>17998642
Abandon reality.
Embrace Anime.

>> No.18001765

>>17998642
A ClocKwork Orange perhaps

>> No.18001772

>>18001765
But only the British version that has the last chapter with the true ending

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18001776

Here it is, OP.

>> No.18001791

>>18001776
BASED DIGITS

>> No.18002461

>>18001732
kill yourself

>> No.18003416

>>17998642
Unironically industrial society and its consequences, literally leave society if you despise it or it and those in it despise you. It's like committing suicide but you get to live at the end of it.

>> No.18003604

>>17998642
Gospel of Matthew, Marcus Aurelius, Dao de Jing

>> No.18003758

>>17999152

skip all this and just get a hooker, then a month later go to a bar at 10pm, get fucked up, and try to catch a hog

>> No.18004219

>>18001603
What a retarded incel post. Clearly he wants to turn his life around. I asked him to elaborate, but he’s proven to be just a troll littering the board with ugly and stupid threads.
The books I posted are great ways to turn one’s life around. You’re either trolling like OP or you’re too thick headed to understand anything in them.

>> No.18004250

>>18000251

How to achieve such order and discipline?

>> No.18004288

>>18004250
By doing it.
And it’s Epicureanism

>>18000096
There ya go.

But again, this is a fake thread. OP is a liar.

>> No.18004337

>>18000065
MUAHHH


like that