/lit/ - Literature

>>17996241
Which one?

>>17996250
Yes

A brief skim of Xi Jinping Thought on Wiki is obv all you need.

>>17996241
Put your face really close to an ant hill, leave it there for an hour. You now understand everything you need to understand about the East.

>>17996241
Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Deng, his ‘The Governance of China’

>>17996256
anon, it's that attitude that let the panda creep up on you in the first place

He made a chart.

>>17996270
>Chairman Xi has read the Federalist Papers

Absolutely based and redpilled.

>>17996270
Good taste

>>17996256
Pretending the bugs are anything remotely like adorable noble pandas are what prevents us from taking exterminating action decades ago when we had a chance.

Paton should have pushed on through Germany and into the Soviet Union and then on to China.

>>17996270
I wonder how it feels having a legitimately intelligent leader guiding your country into greatness. Say what you want, Xi is /lit/ and China is making great gains internationally and domestically.

>>17996316
Their gains are going to stop soon though, because they don't have a China like the West had a China to move all it's industry to.

>>17996339
One of the reason's the West started to decay was because they moved their industries to China.

>>17996270
Based and ultra alpha chinked, but why the fuck Shakespeare tho ??

>>17996339
They're expanding into Africa

>>17996339
>Their gains are going to stop soon though, because they don't have a China like the West had a China to move all it's industry to.
And moving all our industry out of the country worked wonders for the West, right? No, it didn’t. Also China has Africa.

>>17996345
>One of the reason's the West started to decay was because they moved their industries to China.

Yes, but it's the major reason China is flourishing. And that's why I am saying it's going to stop.

>>17996351
An extremely collectivistic culture underneath a very authoritarian and centralized government with a well-oiled bureaucracy isn't comparable to barely functioning and politically unstable African states.

I recommend you actually watch the documentary Empire of Dust.

>>17996391
>Yes, but it's the major reason China is flourishing. And that's why I am saying it's going to stop.
But what about them having most of the world’s industry indicates that they’re going to magically stop making great gains in the future?

>>17996241
Governance of China

>>17996270

This is pure autism. Is he the antithesis to evola/spenglercels

>>17996415
Are you dumb or do you lack the ability to read? Read this post again>>17996339

>>17996441
How? Btw “spenglercels” are right about basically everything

>>17996441
Evola and Spengler are pure autism, so if anything he's an anti-autist.

>>17996443
Yeah, so why do they need to get rid of their industry to keep making gains? You just keep saying the same thing, explain it. Fucking retard

Milne's Winnie-the-Pooh

>>17996476
Do you even understand economics? As a labor market gets more expensive, capitalists will invariably move industry to a cheaper labor market in order to keep the same level of profits.

This is literally why industry in the United States moved to China in the first place you fucking moron.

>>17996316
Bug countries have better leaders, their positions are only available to people who have studied specific degrees. They then need to work their way up, they need experience governing 100,000 people before they can govern 1mil, and they need to govern 1 mil before 10 mil, 100 mil, etc... It's basically level up video game mechanics applied to politics, which makes sense. Obama, Biden, and Trump would have never become presidents under such a system. Also I'm pretty sure China has a program where they take the most promising children of rural/suburban areas and give them a scholarship, with the result being that every leader before Xi Jingping has been from working/middle class, Xi Jingping being a rare outlier.

Letting the masses determine merit was a mistake.

>>17996339
You know that moving industry out of your country is bad economic practice? It only benefits the owning class for a brief period of time.

>>17996270
BASED

>>17996506
>Do you even understand economics? As a labor market gets more expensive, capitalists will invariably move industry to a cheaper labor market in order to keep the same level of profits.
Sure, and why would China need to do that to continue making material gains for their people? Why must China bend to the will of its capitalists and export capital to increase its rate of profit? China is not controlled by capitalists, China controls capitalists. There is no actual reason for them to HAVE to export their industrial capital to continue raising the standard of living.

>>17996523
>It's basically level up video game mechanics applied to politics
retard lol

>>17996731
>why would China need to do that to continue making material gains for their people?
Because their country is completely pollute from their hatred of all nature that is not pandas.

>>17996241
Confucius and no one else

>>17996241
1984

>>17996506
>describes tendency of monopoly capital to export industry to raise profits
>China doesn’t have monopoly capital
Very interesting understanding of economics you have

>>17996753
It’s not that bad actually, and it’s not like exporting industry changes that. LA is still a super polluted shit hole

>>17996788
Whatever, we to see how it will effect china's future, they don't care much for the longterm anyway as the CCP-nomenklautura are not effected by destroying their country as they are unaccountable.

>>17996523
>They then need to work their way up
Xi is literally part of the red nobility. Power only changes hands when a generation dies.

>>17996823
>when you know nothing about chinese politics or xi jinping’s life

>>17996826
>when you know nothing about chinese politics
No one outside their nomenklautura knows exactly what is going on, it is a sign how unaccountable they are.
>or xi jinping’s life
He was born into the highest political circle.

>>17996826
>you know nothing about chinese politics
No one does, it is like in 1984, plebs are not supposed to know what is going on in the upper party outside knowing who the figure-head is.

>>17996879
>>17996858
holy fuck this is so cringe. one retard talking about how nobody knows information easily available on wikipedia, the other talking about 1984

>>17996892
>wikipedia

>>17996905
yeah what of it faggot? it’s a great repository for factual information. I understand being weary of their pieces with bias, but a man’s barebones biography is hard to fuck up.

>>17996933
You deny that he was born into the new nobility of the PRC?

>>17996441
I would honestly bet money that Spengler has a respectable following in mainland China, probably bigger than the West.

>>17996940
yes, his father was disgraced lmao

>>17996969
nobles are disgraced, peasants are ignored

>>17996969
By mao, after the red empeor died he wasn't anymore, his "noble status" was restored.

>>17996823
I know you absolute fucking cherry picking retard, hence why I said everyone before Xi fit that description

>>17996316
Pretty much every countries leader is well read. Its just the US makes you think otherwise

Qiushi

http://www.qstheory.cn/dukan/qs/2021-03/31/c_1127274518.htm

https://palladiummag.com/2019/05/31/xi-jinping-in-translation-chinas-guiding-ideology/

I would also read up on Wang Huning. His book on America was translated recently:

https://www.mediafire.com/folder/cnnb5nzyo5xj1sx,60wuceq9tydgs7h,2a5pmeiwwge3yzk,x6gxyyzhg2e7fxv/shared

Wang is the top ideological advisor to Xi, is on the Standing Committee of the Politburo of the CCP, and is credited with being a guiding force but operating in the background. The book is interesting because it was about his experiences in the U.S. in the late 80s, his observations about it, what he liked about it, what he didn't. And he was holding up a mirror to his own society at the time and seeing what they could do to improve it, and you can see that reflected in China today. He also predicted that political polarization and conflicts in the U.S. would get worse, which is another reason why he has been getting more attention.

I think China is like a neo-Stalinist, a Marxist-Leninist system, except they've "Sinicized" a lot of the tropes, which is why it has worked so far. A lot of stereotypes of socialism is basically "Russian" stuff, which is really the Soviets trying to adapt it to the culture. I don't think the Chinese system is as intense as under Stalin, but the commonalities are immediately apparent once you start studying it. Socialist realism is a thing again now too, it's pretty interesting.

https://youtu.be/L9AF2fiYANc

https://youtu.be/ojpN6PjRcQc?t=1001

https://youtu.be/0hIMfJs5s8E

>>17996241
the massive two volume manifesto of his

>>17996270
The Communist Party of China's website literally has video study courses on Marx, Engels and Lenin. It's pretty great. I think last month they were doing Lenin's "Philosophical Notes."

Fat American pig kneel to Xi Jirenping.

>>17996241
What's the difference between Deng and Xi

>>17996942
I know they’re super into Schmitt, once they discover Spengler it’s over

>>17997162
>Mao
Thesis
>Deng
Antithesis
>Xi
Synthesis

>>17996316
>I wonder how it feels having a legitimately intelligent leader guiding your country into greatness.
Gramsci understood the modern "Prince" (per Machiavelli) that is capable of fulfilling its historic mission to be the political party, which is when a collective will begins to take concrete form. Xi is nothing without the party, and the party is nothing without the people. You have to focus on improving people's situation in the real world and not get too up in the clouds, but of course, a strictly utilitarian approach to things is no good either, it's supposed to be meaningful. But the mythic individual leader emerges from the party and becomes a heroic figure, a "Great Man" essentially, when historical necessity requires moving at a rapid pace. This isn't a "Great Man" theory of history though, fashoids confuse the two because they are full of Heideggerian stuff about the Fuhrerprinzip.

Masses form organization, party, discipline, unity, and then the mythic individual leader becomes concrete and then they move super fast. It's like the moment you go Super Saiyan and push it to the next level, and the times call for it:

https://youtu.be/JOWRembdPS8?t=80

It's dialectics in action:

https://youtu.be/WtTgsu_JtNU

Or you could just have 300 dudes in hard hats singing about turning their bodies into steel:

https://youtu.be/ojpN6PjRcQc?t=3658

>>17997162
Yeah I dunno. Xi is reemphasizing the state's role in the economy. This is a North American ML site that is pro-Deng and pro-Xi and collects different writings connecting them together. They don't mutually exclude each other. It's interesting:

https://redsails.org/

>>17997235
based

>>17997253
>The modern prince, the myth-prince, cannot be a real person, a concrete individual. It can only be an organism, a complex element of society in which a collective will, which has already been recognised and has to some extent asserted itself in action, begins to take concrete form. History has already provided this organism, and it is the political party -- the first cell in which there come together germs of a collective will tending to become universal and total. In the modern world, only those historico-political actions which are immediate and imminent, characterised by the necessity for lightning speed, can be incarnated mythically by a concrete individual.

[...]

>One may therefore suppose that Machiavelli had in mind “those who are not in the know”, and that it was they whom he intended to educate politically. This was no negative political education — of tyrant-haters — as Foscolo seems to have understood it; but a positive education — of those who have to recognise certain means as necessary, even if they are the means of tyrants, because they desire certain ends. Anyone born into the traditional governing stratum acquires almost automatically the characteristics of the political realist, as a result of the entire educational complex which he absorbs from his family milieu, in which dynastic or patrimonial interests predominate. Who therefore is “not in the know”? The revolutionary class of the time, the Italian “people” or “nation”, the citizen democracy which gave birth to men like Savonarola and PierSoderini, rather than to a Castruccio or a Valentino. It seems clear that Machiavelli wished to persuade these forces of the necessity of having a leader who knew what he wanted and how to obtain it, and of accepting him with enthusiasm even if his actions might conflict or appear to conflict with the generalised ideology of the time — religion.

-- Gramsci, Selections From the Prison Notebooks

https://youtu.be/jOIPtWoVyRU

>>17996270
Ch*nese should be culled for the greater good.

>>17997195
God i hate hegelians

>>17997395
why?

>>17996465
I think Evola's influence has been a disaster for the far right. I shouldn't assist my enemies but it's hilarious. He proposed an aristocratic ideology that basically meant that Ancien Regime = Always Good. Even the fascist "revolution" in Italy is bad according to this theory. I think it created paralysis for them, like Bordiga.

https://youtu.be/A5TjFWqhgzk

>>17997521
>Evola's influence
Let's be honest here anon, the Right's been dead meaningfully since WWII ended, and the only form of Leftism that's had any success is Liberalism, which has been ludicrously successful. Yes, that means whatever autistic ideology you personally adheres to is ultimately just theorycel bullshit, as is mine.

>>17997383
I hope Godzilla emerges from the ocean and crushes you under one of his big lizard feet. Godzilla only evaporates cities in those movies with his great lizard breath because the humans fight him because they don't understand him. If they did, they'd understand Godzilla is actually the protector of humanity, like communism.

>the china discord faggots are back

>>17997577
Ironic you used that image

>>17997552
I think Marxism-Leninism of the third-world / anti-colonial variety (not the Soviet kind) still had power through the 1970s. That powered the Vietnamese but then it burned itself out.

https://youtu.be/tyE1_0itU84

Neoliberalism was like a global wave. China kinda surfed it rather than letting it knock them off their feet like the Soviets. Liberalism is starting to have a lot of problems though. It seems pretty clear that's the case. Whatever you think about Xi's ideology he's not a lib.

>>17996413
Based recommendation; I'm going to have to watch it now.

https://youtu.be/MkEqI3_J4xg

>ctrl+f han fei
>0 results

the answer is Han Fei, aka Chinese Machiavelli

>>17998271
Yes this, Xi often quotes Han Fei

>>17996270
>The Sea Wolf
my fucking man

>>17997145
Source?

>>17996339
What the fuck are you even trying to say?
China has China to move it's industry to it's 1.5 billion people and only just reached the economic status of 300 million in the US. They have multiples of gains left.

>>17996339
Do you not 1) realize how big china is, and 2) that china is using africa for this purpose?

>>17997116
it's post stalinist AKA state capitalism
no socialist goals

>>17996241
I don't know. Insects don't write anything OP.

>>17997042
>Pretty much every countries leader is well read.
>Trump was President of the US
Good joke, over the next few decades more countries will have Trump like leaders, idiots who have never read a single book in their lives.

>>17998593
http://theory.people.com.cn/n1/2021/0301/c40531-32039586.html

>>17998672
State capitalism was originally a term Lenin used to refer to a transitional state, so it's a neutral term, although the party officially rejects the term for their SWCC label. The more important question IMO is whether they practice dialectical and historical materialism as a method of analysis and practice.

>>17998737
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/12/26/books-by-the-foot-washington-dc-covid-books-440347

They're all retards, anon.

>>17998805
>The more important question IMO is whether they practice dialectical and historical materialism as a method of analysis and practice.
They most definitely do:
https://palladiummag.com/2019/05/31/xi-jinping-in-translation-chinas-guiding-ideology/

>>17998842
The absolute fucking state. This is what happens when your "elite" universities turn into training high-level wagies who are programmed to read The Economist for all of their opinions.

>>17999476

This is short but a pretty good read.

>>17999561
>tells him to watch Hamilton
>Xi has literally read the federalist papers
>implying he wants friends in Washington
It’s all so tiresome. I grow more Xi-pilled by the day

>Another wumao army thread

>>17999586
Imagine how Xi feels when westerners say he should be more like them.

For a good U.S. institutional perspective on Chinese politics, I recommend this book. It predates the centralization under Xi but the trajectory was already there so this book is a good overview of what was leading up to it.

>>17998915
That shit is so fucking based. He's all very diplomatic and we have to be reasonable and then he says but one day we will win the dominant position and destroy capitalism. I think it'd be hilarious if American socialists became pro-China MLs and started learning Chinese en masse and calling each other "tongzhimen" while at gun range meetups. Some boomer would see it and freak out so badly you'd have a new Red Scare in about five seconds.

https://youtu.be/zedSMcxzd54

>>17999588
The cia shill fears the China respecter

>>17996441
>>17996465
>>17996448
chink detected. where is your soul

>>17999614
They're all chinks. Every week its one of these threads with 100+ replies

>>17999588
I'm seriously not but this >>17999601 is like Red Alert 2. The memes are gonna become real.

https://youtu.be/GuwtNDkHch0

>>17999601
>he says but one day we will win the dominant position and destroy capitalism
wowie heckin based, not like the western ruling class at all

>>17999634
Klaus Schwab is correct.

>>17999624
What’s your critique of China then?
>>17999634
>not like the western ruling class at all
China has been eliminating poverty in their country at an astonishing rate while in the West wealth disparity has been steadily growing. They’re not the same, simple as. The West has been trying to convert China to their system for decades, their ideologies are clearly opposed.

Like, fuck the western ruling class, whatever. But just because one of them says "this shit is unraveling and we need to reform our system before it's too late" doesn't mean he's wrong. You take the opposite position of whatever the rulers say just because you hate the rulers, that's slave morality.

>>17999674
No, I simply compare the results of different governments’ actions and determine which of those governments maximized the health of their nation most. The government which does this I hold the most respect for. By my estimation that government is Xi’s China.

>>17999576
>the lowy institute publishes through penguin
Genuinely surprised and impressed. Didn't expect Penguin to publish think tank papers.

>>17996270
America is done...

>>17996270
Xi-chads, I kneel...

Hello everybody, I'm looking for books on China's history, it's old empire, etc...

Please /lit/, u always gave me great books to read :)

>>17996339
It’s long been said that Ethiopia is China’s China.

>>17999561
kek what a retard

Xi left the cave

what the fuck is up with all these shills

>>17996241
Sage

>>17996241
1984

>>17999586
TAKE MY ORGANS ALREADY POOH BEAR

>>17999666
Lmao the average cost of living in China has increased but the marker for poverty the CPC uses is based on out of date standards, they didn't solve shit but keep gorging on that propaganda

>>17996270
Pickety? This neo-liberal cuck

>>17998619
Im no china fan but GDP and average income aren't reflective of purchasing power and quality of life.

>>17996270
>all these faggots thinking the books Xi's speech writers reference are his personal reading list

>>17996316
He has a bad reputation among university peers/professors

Can’t Get You Out of My Head by Adam Curtis (pbuh)

Basically, China right now is just a nationalist country, that believes in nothing any longer, and that’s kept together by money and surveillance

>>17999666
>China has been eliminating poverty in their country at an astonishing rate
Embarrassing & Satan confirms

>>18000431
people get awfully naive and romantic when it comes to anything coming outta the Orient.

>>17996339>>17996345

>>Their gains are going to stop soon though, because they don't have a China like the West had a China to move all it's industry to.
vietnam, africa, india, cambodia, brimania

social dumpin works for the chinese too, especially the textile industry and the chinses women went on strike about losing their jobs

>>17996523

There's a paper "Why do Chinese postgraduates struggle with critical thinking? Some clues from the higher education curriculum in China" Tao Zhang
There has been a good deal of research into the problems Chinese postgraduate students studying in English-speaking universities face with regard to critical thinking. [...] It aims to explore how a unique aspect of the university curriculum in China – the so-called ‘four treasures’ (four compulsory modules of political thought taken by all Chinese undergraduate students: ‘The Fundamentals of Marxism’; ‘Maoism and Chinese Characteristic Socialism’; ‘The Outline of Modern Chinese History’; and ‘Moral Thoughts, Legal and Civic Education’) – influence Chinese students in terms of their political and cultural values. [...] This article will argue that the higher education curriculum in China, which is heavily regulated by the state, has become one of the main obstacles preventing Chinese undergraduate students from developing independent and critical thinking, particularly in the arts, humanities and social sciences.

>>17997042
>>Pretty much every countries leader is well read. Its just the US makes you think otherwise
no at best the elites are lawyers lol

>>17996270
/lit/ bros hes one of us.....

>>17996788
right, but all the industry has moved out of America, China isn't even held to the same standard of environmental protectionism because it's a "developing" economy so the west "looks the other way" kek.

>>17996316
That's what they would want you to think.

>>17996270
This really drives home how much more important shakespeare is than any other single writer, even in a culture hostile to britain and the west.

>>17996241
He truly is Octavian of Chinese history

>>18001210
tremendous cope

>>17997116
>I think China is like a neo-Stalinist, a Marxist-Leninist system, except they've "Sinicized" a lot of the tropes,
Yeah, they openly call themselves socialist with chinese characteristics, we already been knew.

He someone who saw the futility of the western left and embraced the technocratic method.

>>17999561
I love it lmao. China's best friend is Walmart and Reagan. That is how China is building the forces of production a necessary step to build socialism and later communism. DC does not have the power to bother with for Xi

I mean, I'm a commie myself but I definitely don't trust China.

>>17996270
ROLL THE TANKS XI!

>>17996270
>hemingway
what the fuck

>>18000374
>>18000453
Don’t get me wrong I still think China has a lower standard of living than the US but the point is that standard has been consistently raising, and I don’t see anything that would prevent that trend from continuing. Meanwhile in the US it’s been dropping, and I don’t see anything that would prevent that trend from continuing. Point is that the US is a decaying empire and China a growing one.
>>18000420
It’s not the be all end all but it’s certainly an important metric, how would you measure quality of life?
>>18000450
That documentary gets some things right any some things wrong. It’s produced by the bbc so you can’t expect the full story.

>>18002347
why not?

>>17996270
Bros....

>>17996241
Mulberry Street by Theodor (Ted) Geisel, MD

>>17996316
>Greatness
Look up Serpentza on YouTube to see how "great" China is. You will feel blessed for living in the west.

>>18003789
not even comparable to Xi Jinping

>>18003834
>Serpentza
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GRqcA04FtmM

>>18003893
Imagine trusting an obvious CCP shill beta male

>>18003789
reminder

>>17996347
Because he's the greatest playwright ever to have lived.

Yes, I know you yanks hate the idea of the English being better in some way.

>>17997395
>>17997472
>>17997195
He watched a video on the philosophy of FNV. He never read Hegel

>>17997521
>He proposed an aristocratic ideology that basically meant that Ancien Regime = Always Good
At least read those who you attempt to criticise

>>18002213
>That is how China is building the forces of production a necessary step to build socialism and later communism
Ahahahaha discord retard spotted

>>17996299
eat a bullet

>>17997116
Oh man, I've been requesting this to be translated for a year now. Time to dig in. Thank you, anon.

>>18004327
cope

>>18003789
It’s over