/lit/ - Literature

check a university library, something like this will be really hard to find online. Email someone in a classics department. I've asked my professors about Elusis and they didn't seem to know much.. good luck its a really interesting topic. Check out the Immortality Key, or at least the interview Rogan did with the author.

>>17985474
>but even on libgen did I not stroke any luck
https://1lib.eu/book/3682725/8b326a
Could this be of use?

>>17985587
>the Immortality Key
>THE NEW YORK TIMES BESTSELLER As seen on The Joe Rogan Experience!
Jesus

>>17985587
I've just finished the Immortality Key today. :-)
I also have collections of ancient testimonies and texts, but one is fairly old and the other one is in Italian and not that much is mentioned about The Cretans specifically unfortunately.
But thanks for the suggestions, Anon. Really appreciate it.

>>17985639
Muraresku overplays his hand when he tries to justify the Pagan Continuity hypothesis, which is my major complaint about the book, but as far as the Eleusinian and Dionysian mystery go, I'm now firmly convinced that the kykeon really did have a psychedelic component. I even think that based on the evidence found in Magna Grecia, Catalonia and the Levant that it is beyond debate now. One plus point about the book is that it really provides a plethora of sources. But, yeah, I'm not fully convinced of the Pagan continuity hypothesis (yet).

>>17985474
No, you fucking idiot. Aeschylus was prosecuted for that. AESCHYLUS was prosecuted but he ran up to and grabbed the shrine of Dinoysius during the trial which saved him.

>>17985616
I just paged through it and it's all in Greek.

I know pic related has the fragments I'm looking for, I just can't find it anywhere on the web.

>>17985474
Also no, we do not know which play it was because only seven of his plays survive and it was not revealed what was from the Mysteries.

>>17985802
Read my post. It was Aeschylus. You didn't even get the playwright correct. You have been looming through the wrong plays.

>>17985799
Both Aeschylus and Euripedes were prosecuted. It's just that with Aeschylus I haven even less of an inkling of which play it would be. We have more material by Euripides.
Fun fact: Alcibiades was prosecuted for revealing the Mysteries, too. Too bad he didn't write anything.

>>17985832
Well if everyone already knows about it then it's not much of a mystery.

>>17985818
But the fragment I read of The Cretans specifically mentioned that the character was an initiate in the Mysteries and that, I paraphrase, he's now no longer allowed to eat from anything that had life in it (meat), just like in the Orphic mysteries. I mean, you're probably right that it was Aeschylus who was prosecuted, I could be wrong about Euripides being prosecuted, too. There's no denying however that Euripides, just from the fragment I read, came dangerously close. Even today, the largest testimony we have about the Dionysian mysteries is his Bacchae. I don't think it's that stupid to assume that Euripides may have revealed something of the Eleusinian mysteries.

>>17985840
But here's the thing: we don't really know what it was. We know that Plato, Sophocles, Pythagoras and Parmenides were initiates of Eleusis, and it indelibly shaped their work, but we don't really now that much about the procession that took place in the temple. This is why I'm seeking for as many clues that I can find.

>>17985810
19 plays of 93.

>>17985810
You’re thinking of Aeschylus or Sophocles. We have about 14 (not sure) of Euripides

>>17985474
perhaps the real mystery was the friends we made along the way

Is the divine comedy not a directional parallel to the three proposed stages?

one day I will drop acid in eleusis and let you guys know what happens