/lit/ - Literature

>>17974159
Prostitution seems so romantic in those old novels bros

>>17974159
I'm probably too socially retarded to even go to a prostitute.

>>17974159
Notes From Underground too.

>>17974159
Because they werent pathetic incels like you

why pay for a prostitute when Tinder exists?

>>17974240
Uhhh, like 3/4 of the people on that list would be considered pathetic incels today.

>>17974242
>He has to pathetically grovel and convince women to have sex with him

>>17974253
>he has to pathetically grovel and convince women to have sex with him
>not the other way around
low test

>>17974283
>He has conversations with women for free

>>17974248
>t. Raskolinkov

>>17974242
Because I'd willingly pay a woman $50 just to not talk to me.

Based Zola lost his virginity to a prostitute but he didn't have to pay.

>>17974242
i have unironically backed out of sex more than once because i didn't want to make a fool of myself or admit to being a virgin

just get the first time out of the way so you at least know what you're doing down there

>>17974868
How do you behave with a prostitute? Like what things you shouldn't do?

I lost my virginity with 23 to an asian prostitute.

I see no shame in that, the concept of love is cringe any way. But desu, a romantique love with 14-15 would have been nice.

Today I don't care any more, also incels do not exist, if you don't have sex you don't want any. So every Incel is an Volcel.

>>17974898
>I lost my virginity with 23 to an asian prostitute.
where to go for that

The abundance of information offered by the internet denies man a portion of his nature, that being his state of ignorance regarding things he has not been exposed to.
Whereas once man may have garnered understanding one glass at a time throughout his life, he is now thrust into a well and expected to drink until he is no longer drowning.

My knowledge is not my own - my conception of prostitution does not arise from personal experience, or personal experience of people I know; Instead, it is a metaknowledge based on anecdotes such as Proust (a literary figure whose work I know only by name) writing a letter visiting a brothel to break his habit of masturbation.

>>17974907
This was in germany I don't think this will help you.

Also she was quite young and beautiful, submissive quirky and only cost 50€ for an hour. A very seldom lucky shot.

Today I just have sex when it comes across, also drug filled orgies. I have been in a relationship after that in which I had "lovey" sex. Once I found out like 3 men at the same time were after her I dumped her from one day to the other. Felt nothing.
White college girls are dangerous.

Just become successful, and then buy a woman, one way or another.

While you are you just take what you can get, and give nothing back, neither money nor emotions.

>>17974875
Wash your cock and balls beforehand. I suggest you go to a brothel, it's dearer, but you get more of a 'girlfriend experience' than a quick fuck, put clothes on, leave. I don't know what it's like where you live, but brothels here advertise themselves as erotic massage places. Just be forthright and say you've never done this before and want someone who can take it slow.

I don't know what you mean by how to behave, I just treated her like I would a normal person and it all went fine. She did most of the work, could tell when I was unsure and just grabbed my hand and put it where it was meant to go. It was quite warm and loving, at least it felt that way to me, anyway, even though it was a business transaction.

Sex is surprisingly easy after a single time, highly recommend doing this if you're afraid of screwing up with a 'real girl' and having her laugh at you or tell your friends or something.

>>17974919
This is why young people should not read. Or use the internet too much.

It WOULD be wise to go out every day. Sadly there is corona.

Flaubert always purposefully picked the ugliest prostitute in the whorehouse to fuck her in front of his friends

>>17974939
*young

>>17974919
Didn't read lol. But I don't know why you're psychoanalysing me or whatever. It sounds a lot like projection on your part. I only read the Montcrieff translation, but that novel was one of the best experiences of my life. Took me ages to complete the whole thing though.

>>17974963
you are a god damned idiot, replying to a post you didn't read

>>17974948
No way! Highly based if true

>>17974978
Why does he have to read it? Can't he get enough out of the post from the Wikipedia entry?

>>17974943
fanks :)

>>17974943
>Wash your cock
I guess Peterson was right all along

>>17974978
Well I skimmed it truthfully but the point is that I have actually read the book and your post wasn't particularly insightful.

>>17974159
I did it but it changed nothing for me.

>>17974990
wikipedia entry??

>>17975009
I don't know what novel you're referring to, nor was I trying to psychoanalyze you
are you a schizophrenic?

>>17975043
You didn't know that Proust wrote a book? What are you even doing here on a literature board?

>>17974242
Tinder is grotesque. Engaging in a purely transactional relationship with a prostitute is much more honest than going through all of the silly social games that characterise modern dating. The way you have to present the most bowdlerised version of yourself as if you're a product on display; the awkward jokes and pickup lines and conversation-starters you have to use; the dates you have to go on; the flashy clothes you have to wear; drinks you have to buy. All the effort you put into taming her and for what? The pursuit of bodily pleasure. The desire for seminal ejaculation. That's it. Why go through all that when you can just pay a prozzie?

Because there are too many young men trying to make you feel like “it doesn’t count”, whatever that means. Let them seethe and calmly acquire pussy.

>>17974170
I see prostitutes and let me tell you anon, most of the time they end up falling for me. Love is a lot more available than you think.

>>17975111
I hope you realise how that sounds.

>>17974159
>Why is losing your virginity to a prostitute not considered based and redpilled
Because all you "based" and "redpilled" losers are too insecure to even talk to girls if you paid for them. It would simply serve to remind you that no one would every "love" or "like" you for who you are. Because you are worthless.
And the people you call "normies" don't need to, simply because they have basic social skills and enough self-discipline to work out and not eat all the tendies in one sitting.
Now fuck off back to your loser basement.

>>17974159
This was not a personal decision but a common thing for that time. Lots of brainlets also did the same.

>>17975192
Why are you seething so hard at people you don't even know? Why are you so emotionally invested?

>>17974159
>>Proust as a youth told his grandfather in a letter that he wanted to go to a brothel in order to cure his masturbation habit and then asked him for money
That's not how that story goes. It's much more embarrassing than that.

>>17975192
Trick question. I know because you're either a woman or a tranny.

>>17974159
Because back then normal women waited until marriage, so only prostitutes were available for young men.

>>17975225
But who were the prostitutes waiting for? :0

>>17975192
b2r

>>17975192
>thinking that men are loved for who they fundamentally are and not only for what they've become
are you a woman or how else can you think this?

>>17974159
it has something to do with your sexual morals

>>17974919
The internet has ruined a lot of things.
We are used to reading the letters and diaries of great men, artists, etc. Since those things are barely being used today, what will get published after their deaths? Their internet history, emails anf chatlogs? Just the mere idea of those things being made public scares me.

>>17975311
>sexual morals
Top kek what a miscarried fetus of a word.

>>17975225
>back then normal women waited until marriage
Oh dear! You actually believe in a lie people told themselve 100 years ago.

>>17974948
Source? What was his rationale behind this

>>17975331
The tags you searched for in doujins.

>>17975342
Look on the right.

>>17975342
This. Swift was even making jokes about female promiscuity in Gulliver's Travels. Nothing about human nature has changed. All of that nonsense is just propaganda.

>>17975360
This is an incel meme.

>>17975372
Suck a fat cock you faggot

>>17975360
Going by the charts on the top left, it seems like the women with the highest partner counts started having sex at '12 or younger' or '13 to 14'. It stabilizes from age 16+ onward. I'm sure you can imagine that girls having sex at that age are much more likely to be in shitty environments that would contribute much more tangibly to marriage instability than whatever /pol/-evangelical crossbreed logic has been cooked up about promiscuity.

Wouldn't the women in the most isolated environments (parents won't let them have a boy in the room, etc) be the ones more likely to have supportive, affluent parents?

>>17975414
How does it feel to have a whore as a wife? You have kids? Are you sure they are yours?

>>17975423
Ok Incel. Try having sex.

>>17975360
Why is this just talking about women's sexual morality lmfao? So men can go around fucking and everything's alright but women mustn't? Also "women reporting themselves as happy is decreasing!". Lmfao. Do you know that men kill themselves 4x as much as women? Go sort your own problems out before looking at us.

>>17974159
back then daughters were guarded by their fathers and mothers. There wasn't an abundance of sluts for young men like there are today. If you wanted to lose your virginity before marriage you either had to rape someone or go to a brothel.

>>17975489
see
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>>17975493
See
>>17975360
Things have not always been this way.

>>17974841
Source?

>>17975342
It is undeniable that chastity used to be more valued and therefore more practiced in society. I don't know who is cynical enough to think this is just "a lie people told themselves". Are you really so dull-minded you cannot imagine that culture was different in the past?
Female sexual morality especially was more stringent in the past because when the patriarchy developed men wanted to make sure that the kids were their own. Women became like property bought from their father and transferred to their husband. Then with the advent of birth-control and feminism the need for this sexual morality decreased and it was just seen as a vestige from defunct religious morality.

>>17974943
>Wash your cock and balls beforehand.
To be fair, at any respectable cat-house you can expect to be showered first.

>>17974948
This isn't uncommon, the best looking ones are usually visibly tired while the ones that get less business will try harder to please and potentially score a regular.

>>17975215
What was the story?

>>17975503
This in an Incel-meme.

>>17975423
Not an argument. Maybe instead of sitting on the bench with your dick in your hand all day long you should be out in the field getting experience so "promiscuous" girls no longer intimidate you or serve as a hindrance to marriage.

>>17975530
Your statement is at the same time true as it is false.

>>17975585
Careful with those truths! You might scare the incels.

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>>17975593
This is really lame.

>incel
>incel
>incel
Who the fuck do you think you are? Have some humility because your rotting corpse will be no better than mine. The only thing that matters in this life is wisdom.

>>17975691
>wisdom
The only thing that matters is how much pussy you get.

>>17975561
Proust's father was afraid his indulgence in masturbation was turning him gay. He gave him 10 francs to go to a whorehouse so he's stop masturbating and not end up gay. Proust goes to the brothel, pays 10 francs for the whore, and gets so nervous he breaks a vase worth 3 francs and ends up not having sex. Since Proust lives off the money of his parents he has no money with which to pay for the broken vase. He is too embarrassed to ask his father for the money, part of which is he would have to admit to not having sex. So he writes to his grandfather for a loan of 13 francs, 10 for another attempt and 3 to pay for the case. He asks his grandfather to say nothing to his father.

You can basically google Proust 13 francs grandfather prostitute to find the original letter/translation.

>>17975561
>>17975896
Transaltion of the original letter:

18 May 1888

Thursday evening.

My dear little grandfather,

I appeal to your kindness for the sum of 13 francs that I wished to ask Mr. Nathan for, but which Mama prefers I request from you. Here is why. I so needed to see if a woman could stop my awful masturbation habit that Papa gave me 10 francs to go to a brothel. But first, in my agitation, I broke a chamber pot: 3 francs; then, still agitated, I was unable to screw. So here I am, back to square one, waiting more and more as hours pass for 10 francs to relieve myself, plus 3 francs for the pot. But I dare not ask Papa for more money so soon and so I hoped you could come to my aid in a circumstance which, as you know, is not merely exceptional but also unique. It cannot happen twice in one lifetime that a person is too flustered to screw.

I kiss you a thousand times and dare to thank you in advance.

I will be home tomorrow morning at 11am. If you are moved by my situation and can answer my prayers, I will hopefully find you with the amount. Regardless, thank you for your decision which I know will come from a place of friendship.

Marcel

>>17974898
>the concept of love is cringe any way.
Maybe if you only watch Romcoms.

>>17975083
post jaw faggot

>>17975979
Continue to jestermax you fucking clown.

>>17975083
Damn dude, I was somewhat agreeing with you till halfway. Look, I meet a different girl on tinder every few weeks, and it would entirely be grotesque if I was 'presenting' that version of myself. But I dont bring those anxieties into it. I almost look at it like preparing for a drug: eat well, be hydrated and take care of all responsibilities first. Then i can go into the date without baggage and be in the moment, which is all the girl wants from you anyway. Unless you only get shitty girls that talk about themselves whole time.

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>>17976077
Damn Inceldom is a mental sickness.

>>17976102
Incelism is one of the biggest midwit filters there is.

>>17975925
As someone who’s read ISOLT, none of that surprises me. Based Marcel.
Also I don’t understand why people say he was a homosexual. He clearly frequented brothels for women, no? At the very least he was bisexual.

>>17976123
It is nothing but a mental sickness.

>>17976044
I've never even tried a pick up line you dumb cunt the only thing I ever asked girls on tinder is if they want to have sex with me. It's easy when you're not ugly as sin.

>>17974159
btw that image is considered the origin of the term "If you deal with women, dont forget the whip" used by Zarathustra.

>>17975083
typical textwall of rationalization to cope with the fact that you're ugly

>>17974159
>Why is losing your virginity to a prostitute not considered based and redpilled
Because phrases like "based and redpilled" only occur in the incel value system, which doesn't allow for sex with prostitutes.

>>17976706
Yeah I've tried that too and it works 1/100 times. I'm not ugly either. Are you having the same experience? Either way, it's a lot like cold calling and it's a pretty degrading experience. Don't you feel that same way?

>>17976760
works 1 out of 3 times, don't really see how it would be degrading, I mean you're just asking if they're interested in what you're both on the app for.

>>17976806
What so you just type "wanna fuck" and most girls respond positively? That sounds like fucking bullshit. And what you're doing this like once every 3 months?

>>17976835
It works when you're not a complete goblin.

>>17976851
I'm conventionally attractive retard. You're making this shit up. Even the most attractive of Chads can't do that. I've tried chadfishing myself. You're delusional. Where do you even live exactly?

>>17976851
Fucking kill yourself you low IQ normalcunt. Just fuck off. What even is your fucking point? that you can get women because your good looking? That when your ugly your not going to be able to get women? Unironically thank you for this insight I'm glad you decided to contribute to this thread. I don't think I would have ever figured it out if weren't for you right now telling us all how you're able to have sex because you're attractive. Literally empty self-evident platitudes. You're not even a midwit man, just fuck off.

>>17974173
Backpage and liquor nigga

>>17974159
>Not making the woman pay.
Ngmi

>>17977158
hahahahahahahaha hahahahahaha ugly

>>17974293
>He gives women his time for free

>sex with a condom
sorry sweetie doesn't count

>>17977253
Sex doesnt count unless you are 18 years old ejaculating inside the fertile womb of your 16 years old virgin wife, instantly knocking her up in your wedding night.

>>17974159
>Why is losing your virginity to a prostitute not considered based and redpilled again
Because it never was. You can't be based nor redpilled if you have to pay for your first sex

>>17977253
>circumcised
sorry sweetie doesnt count

>>17974159
is being a complete fucking loser the key to become a literary genius?

>>17974242
It's basically the same except you can just get straight to it and skip the song and dance. All women are basically prostitutes at the end of the day, including your mother.

>>17975083
I mostly agree with you anon, although I wouldn't put it in such vulgar terms. A good euro brothel is the best if you just want to have fun. Girls on tinder can be so ugly in real life, it's depressing, and the games are so stupid as well. I'm in a relationship at the moment but I kind of miss pre covid euro prostitutes.

>>17974170
I genuinely feel better paying for prosties than having sex with random women. The most indecent thing with a prostitute is when she plays a bit coy or faux-intimacy (OFC because she wants you as a steady client) right after rimming your ass.

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>>17978291
Eh, just my experience but i took the prostitutepill and visited a couple but i'd rather just have a wank desu

Do you mean No longer human? I don't think he loses it to a prostitute anon, you will never be as cool as Dazai or Mishima or as sad as Baudelaire

>>17977475
obviously

I am an escortcel. Do I actually miss anything?

>>17976182
>Also I don’t understand why people say he was a homosexual. He clearly frequented brothels for women, no? At the very least he was bisexual.
He purposefully maintained the ambiguity for publicity. He tried to fuck the servant Albert at some point though.

>>17978931
>I am an escortcel. Do I actually miss anything?
Having sex with someone you love for the sole purpose of procreation?

>>17979082
I mean, of course I miss children and I'd probably like them. The sex with someone I love is already done because, like a good escortcel autist, I fell for one and had to force myself through a short period without making a terrible mistake.

>>17979105
How did you fall in love with a prozzie? I think of myself being quite an emotional and clingy guy, but when i went the escort route there was no feelings of any kind because it was so obviously so overtly transactional.

>>17979149
Don't know. It obviously wasn't the hard debilitating kind since I went through it without wanting to kill myself or drinking.
I don't see the transactional part as an issue. I never understood the fetishization of spontaneity. If anything deliberate love is better than passion, which is all I suffered from.

>>17978450
Pretty certain that the protagonist from temple of the golden pavillion loses it to a prostitute

>>17975192
I think there used to be some truth to this but have you spoken to any millenial or zoomer normies? They're just as socially inept as your average 4chan user but their autistic interests are tiktok, marvel movies, and BLM instead of anime, the unabomber, and ethnonationalism.

>>17974159
If you and the chick you’re fucking don’t pop each other’s cherry youre lost.

>>17975083
holy based

>>17974248
Honestly I think all species have mechanisms that conserve the phenotypic average. In whites because high iq is quite rare it usually also comes with other out of the ordinary mutations. White women are genetically programmed to protect the species from deviating too much from 100 iq physically fit type men because she evolved in a premodern world where having those traits and ensuring the tribe conserved those traits meant survival as hunter gatherers. Sexual selection is a way to prevent run away mutation in any direction and for whites for most of their history any iq above 100 would undermine the success of the group if those traits spread. It can’t be a coincidence that the only girls who ever gave me a chance were extremely low iq women and a jewess. the low iq girls want me for the same reason extremely tall men usually date midgets, to stabilize the species at a phenotypic mean. The jewess wants me because having my iq is average for her type. Essentially the filtering of high iq white men keeps the white species from growing too intelligent and white women are the evolved mechanism by which that phenotypic hunter gatherer mean is conserved. Dumb trashy prostitute women and high iq brilliant white men are both mutant outliers so it makes sense they would fall in with each other.

>>17975083
This a billion times over.

>>17976102
Brb shooting myself

>>17974159
Because we have feminized as a society and women fear prostitutes.

>>17980184
G spot is an extension of the clitoris, it doesn't exist as concrete thing, look it up, don't worry.

>>17976102
Wait so the uterus really does move around cartoonishly inside the body? So the ancients were right about wandering womb after all? Any way pic is in accurate because women who’ve been circumcised Muslim style have severely reduced pleasure.

>>17977234
Yes? I'm saying that what you're saying is redundant and you reply to my post saying something even more redundant. You can't even comprehend a simple post.

>>17976706
Some of us are ugly, man. I don't get this. "Don't be ugly" is not advice.

>>17980057
It's not so bad for them because zoomer girls like that shit too, unlike millennial girls who are turbonormie and averse to any sort of nerdiness .

>>17980203
who this

>>17975111
Are you a Dostoievsky character?

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>>17978450
kek Mishima was certainly not considered cool, he was a loser homo manlet. Why do you think he was so obsessed with bodybuilding?

>>17980078
that happened to me but she doesn't know because I was too afraid to tell her before we did it and it would just be weird to admit it after

>>17975111
kek, you actually believe them when they fake affection.
You are the optimal client.

>>17977177
If you have liquor, you probably don't need a prostitute to enjoy the night

>>17975695
>The only thing that matters is how much pussy you get.
Why do people like you browse the literature section of a autistic forum?
You can drop the bait, we all know you only had sex when your uncle raped you.

>>17980184
fucking kek. Let us know if you fail anon.

>>17978809
I'm on the right path then

>>17975515
Life and Death of Yukio Mishima by Henry Scott-Stokes

>>17975111
>these people who get paid to love me love me so much!

>>17975083
>>17976077
based and blackpilled

>>17976077
this kills the incel
upside is that anyone can become a chad unless you have a receding hairline or you're short

>>17974159
Nietzsche didn't have syphilis (never showed any of its symptoms) but a rare neurological condition known as CADASIL that had previously killed his father and probably his grandmother.

>>17983322
You may be clinically retarded. This image is made by incels criticizing normies for going to such extreme lengths to get pussy while the chad doesn't have to do anything. The image is making fun of idiots like you who think that they somehow can become a chad, just only if they knew what pick-up line he used. And no not anyone can become a chad. If you're not one nothing will change that fact.

>>17975192
You're trying way too hard to fit in

>>17976182
He famously sexually harassed his personal driver Alfred so hard that the dude died trying to flee him in a plane. He also wrote La Recherche, which is a bit gay when you think about it

Women aren't human.

>>17983349
He did and it was the revenge of the Aztecs on favstian civilization

>>17975192
Seethe mentally ill trannie trash

the only thing stopping me from fucking prostitutes is fear of HIV.

>>17976102
wtf bros I thought girth was more important than length

>>17983854
I mean your chances of catching anything is pretty damn low. I'd only worry if you are seeing bottom of the barrel street hookers/crack whores. It's in their interest to be clean as no one would see them otherwise. It's not like they want stds either

>>17983883
i live 50 km from lugano (switzerland) and the brothels are full of diseases, everyone knows it.

I'll just stay virgin. becoming wizard next year

>>17975192
Why define your worth by your ability to get sex? Most people pay someone else to get food, which is much more needed than sex. Should you consider yourself a loser for not being able to procure food for yourself? Everyone pays for something they need, actually for almost all things. You pay an airline pilot to fly your plane, you pay a doctor to heal you...

>>17983743
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18575181/

>>17983854
HIV is pretty hard to get from vaginal sex or giving anal sex. You'd use condoms anyway.
Other STDs are much more effectively dangerous.

Would you use protection for a BJ from a prostitute?

this thread and the incel thread yesterday have really depressed me holy fuck.

>>17974242
Success is more hinged on how you interact with them, prosties are less scrupulous after the question of money is settled

The subject of sex really draws out the bitterness in you you fucking tards lmao. Chill the fuck out.

>>17974179
Wasn't virgin

>>17984324
I personally wouldn't use protection at all if I had the choice