/lit/ - Literature

>>17960919
tldr

>>17960919
you have to go back also sneed

There there. Someone may take you seriously one day, OP

>>17960919
this nibba be spittin fax yo

>>17960919
Gr8 b8 m8 8/8 according to n8 BUT good thing we're on an 18+ korean fly fishing forum and not a highschool english class.

>>17960919
bait, I remember this crap from some twitter screencap

>>17960919
People who post shitty bait threads should be banned

>>17960925
>muh english major
>literacy education is not optimized

>>17960919
nice rant, that was a fun read. Besides vernacular and tradition, what else is bad about the classics?

>>17961057
>what else is bad about the classics?
boring as fuck

>>17960919
Go back to Rëddit I know where you're from

>>17961069
t. Smoothbrain

>>17960919
>In fact, studies have shown repeatedly that forcing kids to read work well outside their zone of proximal development, books that have no relevance to children's lives, actually HAMPERS their literacy. It raises their affective filter, turning them AGAINST reading & writing. This is especially true for children from communities of color, where different dialects of English or different languages may be the principal means of communicating.
I recognize that this is from that fat basedboys twitter thread, but my grandfather is literally a hillbilly that grew up in one room sheet-metal shack. Despite his extreme poverty, southern vernacular, and bare-bones formal education he still manages to read the KJV Bible everyday. My grandmother was similarly poor, her mother was married 11 times and worked as a waitress. Her favorite books are Don Quixote and The Tales of Canterbury. So my personal experience, which is ranked by modern academics as supremely important, tells me that it is possible for poor people with rural vernaculars to love the classics. Pretending that black people are too stupid to read Shakespeare is something that only a retarded city-liberal (possibly jew) could dream up as a anti-racist.

I didn’t read all that shit but I’m just gonna keep reading and enjoying the old dead white guys

The point of reading classics is to expose yourself to the vastly different worldviews and ways of thinking of an ancient civilization. It causes you to become more thoughtful and aware of your own worldview. It helps you understand where our modern civilizations came from.
Yes, you can include Eastern and other classics as well, but as usual this person isn't actually arguing for inclusion. They nod at those non-Western classics before moving on to argue for the past 30 years of books instead. So it's the same old neoliberal tactic of using a false argument against racism to hide the real goal of trapping people in a bubble of modern pop culture so they're easier to control.

>>17960919
(You)

whoa...

This was written by an English lit major who was forced to read the classics.

>>17960919
Didn't read, lol.

>>17961253
I like this. At some point you have to draw a line between teaching literacy and teaching culturally important or relevant books. Although I can't really gather what OP's copypasta is getting at because they criticize classic vernacular yet recommend reading classics outside of the traditional classics that likely have difficult vernacular as well.
It would be nice to at least see this study that says the classics vernacular hurts literacy.

>>17961386
>reading the classics does not cause you to be a good person
Congrats its not causal. Who tf is this directed at?

>>17961386
It does and I'm tired of pretending it doesn't

>>17960919
So it's not about wisdom?

Weird atheist. You're probably one of those materialist liberal faggots.

>>17961386
That's okay because I'm not trying to be a better person

You should be crucified upside down

Nice pasta, I agree with the sentiment. However, I think if kids are exposed to a multitude of works and also given the freedom to read whatever they want they'll read the classics no matter what (when they're ready for them) because they are the best.

>>17961600
>Nice pasta, I agree with the sentiment. However, I think if kids are exposed to a multitude of works and also given the freedom to read whatever they want they'll read the classics no matter what (when they're ready for them) because they are the best.

No, they will read yiddish comic books and filthy magazines if you dont do something about it.

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>>17961083
newfags outed

>>17960919
>y'all
Argument discarded

>>17960919
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Pic Related: It's me and my bitch

>>17961826
cringe

>>17960919
>y'all

Troll

>>17961861
RIP John

>>17960919
I didn't know that set existed. Just bought it, thanks Op.

>>17961470
CUNNY!

>>17962891
NO! *whips anon* BAD.

STOP THAT :3

>>17960919
White man's books weren't meant to be taught by a PUBLIC SCHOOL SYSTEM of rootless slaves.
Pic related is the point of MUH CLASSICS. You're just enjoying an eternity of white men being the whitest manly men they were and wanted to keep being. But nooo we can't say it like that we need ACADEMIC subterfuge

>>17961253
Shakespeare was the Adam Sandler of his time putting Trannies on stage to make dick jokes, not the fancy pants violin playing boredom hour Western man (including blacks) has gotten used to In-between bouts of hill billy valley girl WWE Walmart star spangled spanglish

I unironically enjoyed Call of the Crocodile more than any “classic” book.
I have a feeling this will be considered a classic, generations from now. Good job writing this book /lit.

Nice red herring. Nobody is trying to install babylon confusion in young readers which only a task that a god could achieve if you think public education muh gaw. We are instead creating an efficient democratic vernacular in the experimental webspace Reddit dot com to be vassalized by Alphabet Inc next decade and translate all cultural output to in the century of popular uprising.

>>17962951
based gardnerchad

>>17960919
Barnes and Noble determines what makes a MUH CLASSIC with its Public School revolving door back in business before Gutenberg and the Apostle Paul.
Mongolian Throat Singing CavePaintings and family scrapbooks are the true classics.
I'm not just high on frog memes and Joe Rogan LARP here. The Maori and Maya are part of this journey in meme magic outsider narrative quilting, my dear Anons. Asha Logos and We WUZ Kangz are true north. Thus the Oera Linda is an evidence of a burned book that has survived the ages by the careful passing down of knowledge in fragile channels like this as ephemeral as your attention span to persue meaning.

>>17962951
This desu

>>17960919
I have never ENJOYED a Classic. I have lost irredeemable life span to a few though. I have raved about other media that I think is distills of compounded genius cough thoughts. What made the Classics Classics were that they once galvanized the attention of man to pronounce such pressure that to deny a Classic's Classicness places you at reputational loss. Life is too short to suffer dusty reading for the sake of coughing dust.

>>17960919
if you're reading translations you're literally not even reading the classics anyway

>>17963026
Kauffman killed Nietzsche worse than Simon and Schuster shat on Ubermensch with Superman. This has left the world in a stench of goblin feces smeared on the foreheads of eager audiences and students.

>>17960919
Ok illiterate

>>17963018
I enjoyed AUDIOBOOKS of Tolstoy and Dostoevsky but to flip a page I could literally choose to stop staring at while other books are glaring at me is too painful to bear.
>>17963042
Almost as painful as goblin stare

>>17961435
>culturally important or relevant books
There is too much informationfloating around to be retaining ephemera dross, much less teaching it — only civilizationally relevant works shall be taught to restablish a baseline every generation

>>17963068
Amen

>>17961069
opposite in my experience. you simply won't find originality and depth in anything else. good writing too. contemporary stuff is really boring and predictable while being poorly written.

btw this thread is clearly bait i hope you don't think you're right

>>17963068
That's why God invented anime, videogames and autistic friemd simulator

>>17963154
Most people's experience with the Classics is like Chess: most people don't have a witty player to share experience with that actually makes life feel better. Just a sad screen shocking to their custom so far. Just out of reach is what it's like to be a EVROPEAN who read those EVROPEAN TRAD BUKS

>>17960919
This sounds like something someone would actually say, but no one who uses this site would say it here.

>>17960919
Based.

What the fuck happened to this board?

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>>17960919
The relevant kids - the ones that will make it anywhere in life and are worth teaching anything other than basic skills to do wage slave labour - were already literate before they even entered elementary school.

Fostering terminal mediocrity in subhumans that didn't shouldn't be the goal of the education.

>>17963154
Most retarded kids even in universities can't tell originality from copycats, because they've actually never read any actual books. They just look up the wiki summary or make shit up so they can pretend to look smart. Anything seems original to them

>>17960919
Nignog golliwog throw a dog a bone