/lit/ - Literature

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>>17958011
Did your parents drop you on your head when you were a baby? I listed two examples. In venus in furs my nigga literally gets a contract for her ownership of him.

>>17957976
I got really submissive vibes from Stoner

>>17957976
Are you the same mommy poster who wants to get choked?

>>17959309
I don’t think raping someone is all that submissive

>>17959356
If i say yes will u answer my question? I need some ideas quick

>>17959362
it was at the beginning of the relationship (marriage) where they fight who gets to be dominant. As his wife she should have allowed him the pleasure but she refused. Later it would be obvious when she would dominate him in all other aspects of his life.

>>17958037
>In venus in furs my nigga literally gets a contract for her ownership of him.
Philosophically interesting premis. Got a .pdf?

>>17959629
Not finding a pdf, but the book isnt great really, its just interesting. I say buy it if your that interested but don't rush out to get your hands on it.

>>17959443
>As his wife she should have allowed him the pleasure but she refused
a supreme gentleman typed these words

>>17957976
Wuthering Heights

>>17957976
men cannot be dominated. even their submission is a realization of their own desires, it is absolutely self-centered

>>17959702
O boy come over and i'll prove u wrong

>>17959697
Really? I doubt this, but i havent read it yet

The Maimed by Ungarr

>>17959680
oh yes I forgot women dont owe me sex, even if I am provider they can sleep with whoever they want whenever they want and if I want divorce they get all I own. Sounds good to me.

>>17960427
As if Edith was in such an advantageous position. She didn't even cheat as far as we know, Stoner did.

>>17960448
>as far as we know

>>17960458
Seek help.

>>17960473
I mean we dont know about her and since she was happy he found mistress I would assume she already had someone on the side. But its just my interpretation.
ok explain to me what should he have done in this situation then?

>>17957976
my diary desu

>>17960501
I think she was just happy to see less of him, but it's not out of the question that she had someone.
>ok explain to me what should he have done in this situation then
What do you mean? I'm not really critiquing Stoner here, I'm annoyed at your overly simplistic black and white view of the situation.

>>17958037
You're retarded, the book is anti-femdom. At the end she just cucks him for the Greek chad. He realizes that women can never truly be dominant and that men who want to be dominated by women deserve everything they get.

>>17959714
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>>17960547
thats the thing it is simple, if I imagine myself in his situation I can only choose, what you call "rape" or cheating. Also on the scale of 1 to 10 where one is consensual sex and 10 is gang rape in the dark ally, what he did was 3 at max.

>>17960555
That ending was 100% tacked on to give the book a pretense of compatibility with conventional morality. Come on -- it's 98% lavishly detailed femdom material, and then the beginning and ending 1% are, "And that's why everything else in this book is WRONG and a BIG WARNING against letting a woman dominate you."

It reminds me a bit of lurid celebrity memoirs that close with a few pages of, "And so I decided to write this book as a warning about the dangers of substance abuse," as if the book is anything other than entertainment.

>>17960610
Do you have any sympathy for Edith?

>>17960620
>if you ignore the ending of the book for no reason at all then it has a completely different meaning
Okay retard

>>17960620
It's supposed to be intoxicating and erotic faggot. Nobody is saying that femdom isn't hot the point of the book is that as hot as it is its ultimately a fools errand. If you're submissive to a woman she's still just going to go search for a man she herself can be submissive towards and you're going to end up at the bottom of a food chain. The point of the book is going right over your coombrain

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>>17960666
Look into Sacher-Masoch's real life

>>17960649
honestly no, especially not after she basically took Grace from him, and by breaking her relationship with father ruined her life too.
I met unhappy people who go out of their way to make life difficult for others in real life and learned hard way that that you should have no pity for them no matter how sad and unfortunate their lifes are.

>>17960707
What's the point of not pitying them? I get not wanting to engage with them if we're talking real life.

>>17960458
Kek this is genuinely hilarious.
>>17960691
You btfo'd those niggas with this one.

Lets get back to the subject now - what are more books about men being dominated by women?

>>17960691
What about his real life means you should ignore parts of the book you don't like because you're a retarded coomer?

You mean submissive boys, there's no submissive men.

Tiny little boys.

>>17960929
It means you should be suspect of its presentation since its so outside his own desires that it becomes obvious that he wrote them to get it published.

You need a nice thick Dominus Noctura to shit down your throat and you'll change your tune pretty quick

>>17960936
Is that you, mammi?
I'll be in the cellar at 5 and if i'm there early can i choose between the studded belt or the steel pipe?

>>17960947
His life aligns very well with the moral of the book, he understood firsthand why the desires in the book were futile.

>>17961052
It’s like if someone wrote blacked erotica and tacked on a message about how race mixing is wrong at the end. It’s difficult to take seriously

>>17961052
After he wrote this he literally got into a relationship with a girl who did this same shit to him and basically ate her alive with sexual demands because of it.
If my niggas life aligned with the moral of the book it did so for a milisecond in private and then he let the bitch beat the piss out of him.
You seriously can't spot a smidge of agenda on masoch's part? Nobody would have published that shit without it and he wanted to publish lonely bottom wish fulfillment.

>>17961097
The destructive parts of the relationship are also part of the kink. He’s obviously into getting cucked and treated like shit

>>17961120
Which is why you can't trust the 2% of the book that he's denouncing those sexual pursuits

>>17961144
It’s like gooners that get off on the idea of a crippling porn addiction

>>17961158
Yes it's a great screed against femdom

>>17959664
Right, I meant to analyze it in relation to contractualism, which is implicitly prominent in America

>>17961096
I dont see how, who would better know why racemixing is bad than some freak who guiltily gets off on it. It's like saying heroin addicts can't explain why heroin is bad because they do heroin. You'd have to be retarded to think this way.

>>17960735
She’s sympathetic only in that she is genuinely incapable of any significant change. She is a tragic creature that tears everything around it without thought.

>>17957976
The Piano Teacher?

>>17961181
Get the penguin edition then, theres a contract of the author's servitude to a girl who read this book at the end

Bump kek

>>17957976
My diary desu

>>17957976
>like a woman would own a watch
a fucking watch? not even a loving pet?

Wtf are you trying to say? Yes, it's a good book. Learn to speak before you post here

>>17957976
Macbeth kind of

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>>17962924
This looks painfully terrible

>>17957976
Reminder that the whole point of this book is that such a setup cannot work because women are inherently inferior. The only ones you can submit to, anons, are your fellow men.

>>17962765
Vanilla normies will never understand how based femdom is. Smh my head.
>>17962871
Nigga wat? Apart from the "in" meaning "i'm" this shit makes perfect sense. Its not a book review thread, kill yourself.
>>17962918
I see you but no, unless in shakespeare's manuscript lady macbeth chains macbeth to the elizabethan equivalent of a radiator and leaves him naked after sodomizing him, the king's blood still on his hands.

>>17963063
If they're trans men you can submit to them too though

>>17963088
Fair enough. I'm a TIRM (Trans-inclusionary radical misogynist), I respect trans men and their admirable rejection of foid-dom.

>>17963135
Based. Trans men are the best to eat out, they really grab your hair when your on your knees for them.

>>17963074
people who use words like vanilla can never be into femdom seriously

>>17963238
Do u even know what vanilla means? Have u ever even been penetrated by a woman? Are u just unadventurous or are u homo sex?

>>17963268
vanilla, kinky, adventurous
these words let anyone know that you only seek femdom because this is a past time for you when you need a little change of flavour whereas for some of us it is the default and we don't think in terms of these dumb distinctions

>>17963962
Its hard not to think in dumb distinctions when you bring it up and people immediately make distinctions about you being sick.

>>17960947
people like you need to be thrown in a woodchipper

>>17957976
my diary desu

>>17964210
Only if Mommi wants me to be

>>17964251
your mother probably does

>>17964262
I'm not talking about my mother. I'm talking about Mommi!

Manipulated man...

>>17959680
Women are meant to be dominated and led.

You will never be a woman.

>>17957976

Gynopolis by Cagliostro (Arne Hoffmann)

He is an MRA who writes femdom fiction under a pen name...

>>17965638
Exactly. That's why i lead Mommi to rip her whip in and out of my mouth when im on all fours