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I need some books on third positionist economics

>> No.17942518

>>17942509
These Slavic rats fucked you in the ass, remember?

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>>17942509

>> No.17942531

>>17942518
Slavic rats? What the fuck do you mean

>> No.17942536

>>17942509
According to capitalist with their Randian John Galt fantasies and their Art Deco, and the Socialist Realism Soviet artists, everybody thinks they're chad. But you look at Fascist leaders like Himmler, Goebbels, and Hitler (all swarthy chinlet softies) or Goring (fat) and you realize everybody in history thinks they're chad but ALWAYS fails.

>> No.17942540

>>17942509
If the fascists are so strong and the communists are so thin and hungry, why did the communists erase the fascists from the planet?

If fascism is so strong why was Italy the weakest nation economically, politically and militarily?

>> No.17942545

>>17942509
>le fascist stronk man
Post your chin

>> No.17942557

>>17942545
post weight, amerifat

>> No.17942564

>>17942536
Nah this pic is very accurate, capitalism with it's consumerism creates mindless blobs of fat, communism with it's shitty planned economy creates starvation while fascism with it's warrior rhetoric and focus on physical spiritual and mental development of the race/people within the state creates the best stock of men, that's just a fact. But muh leaders weren't jacked, fucking cope. I just asked about books regarding fascist/3rd positionist economics but retards like you have to always find a way to cope BUT MUH HIMMLER WAS WEIRD LOOKING

>> No.17942569

>>17942540
and capitalists in turn erased communists from the planet

>> No.17942570

>>17942540
If modern commies are so strong why do you take hormones, become women and suck fascist dick with an unsatiable hunger?

>> No.17942576

>>17942540
According to communists the fbi/cia, us military and nato are run by fascist reactionaries and the world is always one election away from a genocidal death spiral

>> No.17942580

>>17942569
>>Capitalists erased communists from the planet

>Capitalists fought against communists in North Korea
>lost
>Korea is still communist
>Capitalists fought against communists in Vietnam
>lost
>Vietnam is still communist
>Capitalists tried to overthrow communists in Cuba
>failed
>Cuba is still communist

What did anon mean by this?

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>>17942557
Lol your anger shows that your chin is indeed weak like sponge. Like most fascist larpers you need a strong daddy in your weakness.

>> No.17942583

>>17942540
>If communists were so thin and hungry how come they won the war
You know that the biggest reason for mass starvations was Stalin putting all the money into millitary, preparing for the ultimate war while the rest of Europe was already at war, so they put all their money into millitary and were resting while everyone else was fighting, plus USSR was aided by capitalist America and all of that money too went to millitary, you fucking retard

>> No.17942585

>>17942580
None of these are communist, dumb American.

>> No.17942592

>>17942585
Vietnam is the only one of those that could be considered still a socialist country. Cuba is going more and more down the capitalist route these days

>> No.17942593

>>17942582
nice projection, incel

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>>17942593
I will fuck my girlfriend and then your mother

>> No.17942614

>>17942580
After that vietnam defended their nation heroically against evil Chinese commies

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>>17942564
>Rhetoric makes people jacked
No. You could make the same argument that socialist countries and their public pushes for physical fitness as a duty to the state made them all supermen. By the end of the war there were also way more fascists starving than communists.
I'm not even a commie and think the USSR was mostly evil, but you seem to have a middle school understanding of politics and history like most /pol/acks.

>> No.17942654

>>17942640
Stalin copied hitlerism let's be real

>> No.17942676

>>17942531
Soviet Union raped Berlin

>> No.17942681

>>17942570
He said communists not liberals

>> No.17942686

>>17942509
No, you need to kill yourself.

>> No.17942687

>>17942676
A Socialist state raped another Socialist state...what else is new?

>> No.17942688

>>17942640
>You could make the same arguement for socialist countries
Well yeah socialist collectivism tends to make a better stock of men than capitalist individualism, the problem was that the economy was shit so it was hard for everyone to be like that, soldiers and sportsmen and others were in a good shape, the others not so much. And fascist countries were starving due to constant bombings lol, the reason Germans were starving on front was because they couldn't supply food to their men due to british bombings, look at the prewar times Germany had the biggest economic wonder ever, people went from selling rats as food on the street to having a paid vacation to foreign countries every year.

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>> No.17942730

>>17942592
Vietnam has more exploitative capitalist industry practices than China, all those notes for help sown into cheap fast fashion is from a vietnamise child

>> No.17942734

>>17942509
fascist economics really dont give two shits about economics they just do whatever works the best, nazi germany would probably have an economic system similar to modern germany (albeit with more censorship and propaganda)

>> No.17942739

>>17942540
are you from brazil or something?

>> No.17942746

>>17942687
There’s a difference between Marxist socialism and national socialism

>> No.17942747

>>17942734
Fascist economics literally don’t exist. Fascist economics is just capitalism with a few different characteristics.

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>>17942509
Just read these:

Third Positionists:
Julius Evola
Mircea Eliade
Martin Heiddeger
Nicolás Dávila
Juan Donoso Cortés
Alasdair MacIntyre (more left-wing, but I still consider him to be a third)
Giovanni Gentile
Alain de Benoist (more right-wing, but I still consider him to be a third)
Francis Parker Yockey
Anthony Ludovici
Leo Strauss (jewish, still really good)
Alexander Dugin
Carl Schmitt
Mario Palmieri (I can only find one book of his and it's on Amazon)
Alfredo Rocco
José Antonio Primo de Rivera
Corneliu Cordenau
Third Positionists:
Edmondo Rossoni
Sergio Panunzio
Michel Aflaq
Juan Perón
Ramiro Ledesma Ramos
Giuseppi Bottai
Muammar Gaddafi (The Green Book)
Ugo Spirito
Antoun Saadeh
Raven Thompson
Onesimo Redondo
Georges Valois
Gottfried Feder
Gamal Abdel Nasser (a politician, but read his "Egypt's Liberation: The Philosophy of the Revolution")
Gregor Strasser
Otto Strasser
Plinio Salgado (Brazillian, don't know how hard it is to get in English)
Jean-François Thiriart
Adriano Romualdi
Corrado Gini
Giorgio Locchi
Stefano Vaj (I can only find refferences to him, never really anything direct)
Enzo Erra
Giorgio Pisanó
Franco Freda
Georges Sorel
Thomas Carlyle
Giovani Papini

>> No.17942774

>>17942757
Is Heidegger really fascist or even third position? Same goes for Eliade

>> No.17942798

>>17942747
of course they exist, they just dont have any fixed doctrines about it, if state socialism worked better than capitalism i have no doubt fascists would adopt it

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>>17942774
>Heidegger was a member and supporter of the Nazi Party.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Heidegger
Ehh, he was mixed about it. But some ideas during the Reich came from him directly or indirectly.


>Several times during the late 1930s, Eliade publicly expressed his support for the Iron Guard, a fascist and antisemitic political organization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mircea_Eliade
Same as above.

>> No.17942808

>>17942799
I meant specifically in terms of the written work they put out.

>> No.17942817

>>17942540
Because Communists while being less efficient had the numbers

>> No.17942840

>>17942746
True. Land teaches us that Fascism is just practical socialism. Both are doomed though, as you can't fight entropy. Capital will win.

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>>17942808
I hold the belief that political the thought of a writer directly impacts what they write. I think it's stupid that people separate writer and work since one's complementary to the other.
If you don't want to read them, since they don't touch on economics, it's fine.
They're just a bit like Nietzsche and his influence on NatSoc ideology.

>> No.17942866

>>17942799
>Ehh, he was mixed about it. But some ideas during the Reich came from him directly or indirectly.
While he was possibly mixed about it, he did enforce purity and segregation laws when his university had already obtained a dispensation, and did so knowing it would mean trouble for Husserl.
He might very well not have been a convinced kike burner but he was definitely an opportunistic asshole with little to no empathy.

>> No.17942871

>>17942746
Who cares faggot

>> No.17942886

>>17942840
Isn’t China some form of socialist? Seems like they’re going to win

>> No.17942894

>>17942866
Huh, Heidegger actually seems pretty cool. It's still kinda weird to me that he married a Jewess and let his doctor cuck him and father his child.

>> No.17942895

>>17942840
>Capital will win.
lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDgAt7-b4bM

>> No.17942913

>>17942540
OP's image is referring to the fascist race; the members of which inhabit many countries all over the earth.

>> No.17942960

>>17942509
>>17942640
Both commies and fascists prefer same aesthetics. It's well documented that fascists studied early revolutionary commie aesthetics. Faggots are in denial that they have nothing in common.
Anglo won both of these fags scapegoated each other by inventing concepts like Cultural fascism and Jewish Bolshevism. Both of them failed and Anglos won, kek.

Based Anglos.

>> No.17943001

>>17942960
Anglos are being obliterated by Chinese communists.

Based Chinese

>> No.17943117

>>17943001
Chinas population ia going down and they'll destroy themselves that way

Based One Child Policy

>> No.17943172

>>17942509
Holy cringe

>> No.17943234

>>17942509
fascism is capitalist, 3rd position is a nonsense economic system like distributionism or georgism

>>17942757
>>17942799
>>17942858
>McFeudalism

>> No.17943390

>>17943234
I'm more a follower of lennyism myself.

>> No.17943468

>>17943234
>McFeudalism
Feudalism was unironically a much better system than the capitalism of today

>> No.17943514

>>17943117
>any day now
Lmfo, opinion immediately discarded

>> No.17943681

Kerry Bolton is good. Try these four articles for an introduction to various authors and movements, like Social Credit:
https://counter-currents.com/tag/breaking-the-bondage-of-interest/
Here's Bolton's big book on the topic:
https://counter-currents.com/2014/10/kerry-boltons-the-banking-swindle/

Bolton is really good for giving you an overall narrative and naming all the major players, rather than just giving a free-floating theory. He sees the right's fight against usury and capitalism as a contiguous struggle and knows a lot about its manifestations and flashpoints.

If you scroll through their third position tag you'll find lots of great stuff:
https://counter-currents.com/tag/third-way-economics/

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>>17943697

>> No.17943717

>>17942580
They're all capitalist countries ran by communists. The communists gave up on socialism. Vietnam is allied with the US, China supplies the US with its goods, and North Korea is begging to join the IMF and complains about our sanctions.

>> No.17943743

third position is fascism? I thought third position was European style brocialism (globo homo market capitalismTM plus a safety net)

>> No.17943768

>>17943707
That's not what that article said, retard. The their heatmap found that diverse areas were less likely to unionize because they usually had higher incomes (like cities), and had higher unionizing rates so the need for unions was unnecessary, you dumb fuck. The areas with low ethnic diversity tended to unionize more because they were rural areas with poorer people.

>> No.17943808

>>17943768
>The areas with low ethnic diversity tended to unionize more because they were rural areas with poorer people.

This remark reinforces the article, y'know.

>> No.17943836

>>17943808
It doesn't though, retard, because the amazon documents were specifically measuring geography, not "diversity" you retard. Diverse areas are usually industerial areas with a lot of public unions to begin with. There is little need to unionize when there are already ton of fucking union jobs you can take. Why the fuck would I unionize at amazon when can I quit my job, and join a FedEX union in the same town?

>> No.17943849

>>17943717
That's because those countries weren't really ideologically communist, they were third worldists trying to find a political third position in the Cold War between the two superpower positions. The two superpowers were just totalitarian empires, their professed ideologies were secondary at best. Vietnam was a reasonably successful third worldist revolution, Yugoslavia tried something similar, the Arabs tried something similar.

Now that American capital runs the entire world by destroying economies and if necessary, genocidally "liberating" any country that signals it would rather go its own way, there is no such thing as independence. You are either an isolated shithole like Cuba being economically tortured by a prosperous supergiant that claims to be a humanitarian power, or you fall in line and become a socio-economic vassal.

>>17943743
Well, the fascists did pioneer many elements of the welfare state and green politics. State socialism only works in a nationalist state, hence National Socialism. A quote from Ezra Pound's book, Jefferson/Mussolini, which also views Lenin in a positive light:
>As far as financial morals are concerned, I should say that from being a country where practically everything and anything was for sale, Mussolini has in ten years transformed it into a country where it would even be dangerous to try to buy out the government. In other countries they excuse inexplicable perfidies by saying “These men are personally honest.” I am now quoting an admiral : “All I know is that all these men are my personal friends and I assure you that they are personally honest.” The implication being that they play the super-crooks’ game because they are stupid and hoodwinked.

>A capacity for being hoodwinked is not in itself a qualification for ruling. It is, let us admit, often a means of getting office in countries where office is elective. Jefferson thought the live men would beat out the cat’s-paws. The fascist hate of demi-liberal governments is based on the empiric observation that, in many cases, they don’t and have not.

>>17943768
What part of the Business Insider article mentions the original Amazon memo venturing speculation about causation like "w-well diverse areas are higher INCOME, you see, and higher INCOME people form unions less often!"? Why would they or their algorithm even care about to scausation? Do you assume they have the same mental illness you do as a woke liberal leftist, where any hint of "diversity is not our strength" overrides all your other thoughts and forces you to give tortuous explanations of why diversity is our strength?
>Store-risk metrics include average store compensation, average total store sales, and a "diversity index" that represents the racial and ethnic diversity of every store. Stores at higher risk of unionizing have lower diversity and lower employee compensation, as well as higher total store sales and higher rates of workers' compensation claims, according to the documents.

>> No.17943893

>>17942681
The distinction is minor, if there is one at all

>> No.17943910

>>17943849
>hat part of the Business Insider article mentions the original Amazon memo venturing speculation about causation like "w-well diverse areas are higher INCOME, you see, and higher INCOME people form unions less often!"? Why would they or their algorithm even care about to scausation?
How fucking retarded are you... unions are literally created to deal with low wages. Why do you think workers form unions - just to feel good, you retard? Have you have taken an economics course in your life or had a job? Unions are re-action to working conditions, and people want to be fairly paid for the risks they take on the job.
>Why would they or their algorithm even care about to scausation?
But again, the documents don't say "diveristy helps prevent unions." Actually, why don't you quote businesser article that specifies that exact claim. I dare you to do it right now. We both know you won't becuase you're full of shit, like every other retarded /pol/ who posts out of context jpgs. All you can do is gaslight and lie.

>> No.17943921

>>17943910
>why don't you quote businesser article that specifies that exact claim. I dare you to do it right now.
I just did.. What do you think the greentext was? Me writing a short story?

Calm down dude. You write like you're about to cry.

>> No.17943932

>>17942509
But fascism has always been in the service of capitalism, it did not exist prior

>> No.17943937

>>17942540
its not complicated or ideological
there were a lot more communists and capitalists and they outweighed them

>> No.17944010

>>17943921
You didn't though. What you did is cherrypick the "lower diversity" part, like the shitty "Information Liberation" article did, and ignore the "lower employee compensation" part - not realizing areas with lower diversity, and "lower employee compensation" are rural areas. You also ignore the other factors they also included such as poverty rate, which they found positively correleated with higher unionization, and the closeness of a near by union. Again, if you had a brain, you would realize these are marks of areas that tend to be rural. Rural America is mostly white, mostly poor, and are the least likely to have any unions near by. No shit they are more likely to unionize, not because they're "less diverse" its because they're poor.

>> No.17944028

>>17942518
The entire civilized world was fighting Germany. They were completely outnumbered. What do you expect?

>> No.17944031

>>17944010
So I don't draw the same speculative conclusions about causation that you did? I thought you said cite the article, not cite the deranged ramblings of a faggot before they've even happened. Do you want me to consult with you in the future before I say or do anything? You might have more gay opinions I need to take into consideration in my citation.

Like I said in my post you didn't read, the one about the Business Insider article you didn't read, the one about the Amazon memo you didn't read, quote the part where it speculates about correlation and causation between economic and cultural factors.

>> No.17944121

>>17944031
No, you just so happen to be a retard who doesn't know what a "heat map" is - Its actually embrassing I'm talking to a retard who doesn't understand how spatial data is measured. They're talking about stores in geo-graphic locations, you dumb fuck. Economic and cultural factors are spatial factors, but I guess a retard like you is having such a hard time to figure that out huh? If you saw a heat map measuring poverty, and that most of the heat wa clustered around the Congo; a retard like you would say "AH HAH, LOWER RACIAL DIVERISTY MEANS HIGHER POVERTY!"

>> No.17944156

>>17944121
congo is very diverse

>> No.17944172

>>17944156
Justs like Mutts are; which would defeat your argument in the first place mr 56

>> No.17944178

>>17944172
im not trying to make a point or argue for or against i was just saying

>> No.17944211

>>17942540
Literal irl zerg rush wdym

>> No.17944222

>>17944028
What did speed freak tweaker Hitler expect when he broke the non-aggression pact with the USSR?

>> No.17944256

>>17942654
Other way around. Read Nolte.

>> No.17944280

>>17943937
>>17944028
Was there nothing the fascists could do to avoid being ganged up on?

>> No.17944288

>>17944280
if the uk had surrendered and they didnt declare on the usa

>> No.17944298

>>17944280
No because the countries they were up against were all run by the same banking cartels, when Russia fell that was basically the end for Europe

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>>17942757
Nice list
>>17942774
Heidegger is very important,but you shouldn't stop after him
>was he really fascist
He was a racist anti-semite that hated liberalism,how much this affected his works is arguable,he also had jewish mistresses
Heidegger is currently a pretty big filter for progressives,commies and /pol/tards
>>17942895
>youtube video
Go back
>>17942886
You didn't read Land

>>17942518
>>17942536
>>17942540
>>17942640
>>17943893
>>17943234
>high quality posts right here

>> No.17944428

>>17944280
No, the fascists were trying to opt out of the Anglo-American capitalist world system that reduces all its members to vassals of the London and New York stock exchanges, in the same way that third worldist states during the Cold War were trying to opt out of a power struggle waged by two world empires in ideological terms irrelevant to their native cultures. Just as in the Cold War the two empires were unable to accept or even understand the idea of an "unaligned nation" (you are either part of the world empire or against it), Anglo-American finance couldn't accept anything it couldn't reduce to a colony.

Britain fought for the banks, Britain hasn't even been Britain for a long time. Both the USSR and Germany were fighting for supremacy over the continent, trying to protect an indigenous European space from the Anglo-American space in their own ways (although for different reasons, since Stalin was just a blind imperialist, Lenin was alright though). They had to come to blows.

France was a traitor that was letting itself be absorbed as an appendage of England, it would never be powerful again and everybody knew it, it was like Spain in the 17th century, a faded empire. Germany was the last one with a real chance, so Germany took the last stab at an autonomous Europe, with as many allies as it could get or coerce in tow.

The Marxists are completely right that you have to view things as a totality as long as they are connected economically. Imagine being a minor East European nation in the 1800s, freed from the weakening Ottoman Empire. What do you do? You are now surrounded by several giants who could crush you or absorb without a second thought. Do you say "I'm an independent nation, leave me alone!" There is no such thing. Austria, Prussia, or Hungary will manufacture an excuse you invade you or install a government submissive to them sooner or later. That is how power politics is actually played.

Now extend this analysis to a world economic system that is more subtle than land borders and national identities, a world economic system that has become self-aware and realised it can dominate the world's peoples far more easily by integrating them financially, for instance by installing central banks and forcing them to participate in its markets (as a satellite, a minor player reliant on the financial metropole). Imagine being a minor or "medium" nation in this economico-imperialist landscape. The options available to you are to be integrated into whatever economic empire's sphere of influence you fall into, or to try to rebel and become a pariah nation and destroyed through subversion tactics. Or is there a third option? That would be the third position.

Most third worldist nations tried to play the third position game by playing two major empires off one another. Germany tried to make Europe itself a third position space. That is also at the root of Mosley's plans for a real European union, a federation of brother nations.

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>>17944428
>That is also at the root of Mosley's plans for a real European union, a federation of brother nations.
Mosley wanted a completely integrated Europe anon

>> No.17944452

>>17944428
the USSR had cucked to the same financial interests that ruled Britain and US, that's why the Anglos helped the Soviets

>> No.17944488

>>17944450
Yes but not in a way that dissolves their national particularities into some disgusting melting pot. The point was to reconstitute Europe as a third power between the USSR and British/US alliance (which he knew would now flip to being US-dominated) and stop the world from becoming a dipolar nightmare. Basically what Germany had wanted as well.

It's not perfect but it's better than the Dulles brothers running the show and Germany's economic "miracle" integrating it as a vassal of American capital.

>>17944452
Is there proof of this?

>> No.17944828

>>17942536
Goering was a fucking chad. Highly decorated infantryman, got tired of that and became one of the greatest fighter aces in the war.
Only got fat because he was hooked on pain killers after he was wounded trying to take over the entire government with like 10 of his bros.
Then, after he's captured and forced to quit cold turkey, calls out the entire Nuremberg trial for their hypocrisy. And THEN, after it becomes clear that it's a show trial, takes his own life before they can hang him.

>> No.17945047

>>17944342
>Nice list
What does /lit/ think of my full list?

Ancient Civilization:
Plato
Aristotle
Epictetus
Marcus Aurelius

Pereniallists:
René Guénon
Frithjof Schuon
Titus Burckhardt

Misc. from the 17th to the 19th Century:
Robert Fimer
Thomas Hobbes
Joseph de Maistre
Klemmens von Metternich
Michel de Montaigne
J. G. Hamann
Hegel
Edmund Burke
Juan Donoso Cortés

Distributism:
G. K. Chesterton
Hilaire Belloc

Elitism:
Gaetano Mosca
Vilfredo Pareto
Robert Michels
Werner Sombart

Third Positionists:
Julius Evola
Nicolás Dávila
Alasdair MacIntyre (more left-wing, but I still consider him to be a third)
Giovanni Gentile
Alain de Benoist (more right-wing, but I still consider him to be a third)
Francis Parker Yockey
Anthony Ludovici
Alexander Dugin
Carl Schmitt
Mario Palmieri (I can only find one book of his and it's on Amazon)
Alfredo Rocco
José Antonio Primo de Rivera
Corneliu Cordenau
Edmondo Rossoni
Sergio Panunzio
Michel Aflaq
Juan Perón
Ramiro Ledesma Ramos
Giuseppi Bottai
Muammar Gaddafi (The Green Book)
Ugo Spirito
Antoun Saadeh
Raven Thompson
Onesimo Redondo
Georges Valois
Gottfried Feder
Gamal Abdel Nasser (a politician, but read his "Egypt's Liberation: The Philosophy of the Revolution")
Gregor Strasser
Otto Strasser
Plinio Salgado (Brazillian, don't know how hard it is to get in English)
Jean-François Thiriart
Adriano Romualdi
Corrado Gini
Giorgio Locchi
Enzo Erra
Giorgio Pisanó
Franco Freda
Georges Sorel
Thomas Carlyle
Giovani Papini

Misc.:
Numa Denis Fustel de Coulanges
Jacques Ellul (left-winger, Christian anarchist)
Jacob Burckhardt
Musashi Miamoto (book of five rings)
Sun Tzu
Confucius (he has interesting thing to say; to say the least)
François de La Rochefoucauld (moralist)
Jean de La Bruyère (same as above)
Fyodor Dostoevsky
Joris-Karl Huysmans
Jean Baudrillard
Oswald Spengler
Roger Scruton
Ernst Jünger
Ernst Niekisch
Charles Maurras
Leo Strauss
Martin Heiddeger
Mircea Eliade

>> No.17945614

>>17942509
Feder is the definitive source.

>> No.17945651

>>17942524
compromesso storico as a third way?

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>>17942536

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>17942757
>17945047
In both of these you need to replace ''Martin Heiddeger'' with ''Martin Heidegger''

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>>17945673

>>17945047
>>17942757
oopsies

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>>17942509
Germany Tommorow by Gregor Strausser or Mussolinis Fascism are pretty good for a economically left take
If you want anything more to the right of that read Hayek
But ultimately if your looking for a good "centrist" fascist take its gona be pretty hard as the best example of that are the polocies of Hjalmar Schacht and he was nutoriously lax on writing any serious books on theory.
If you want to study the economy of the third riech in a way that isn't constantly shitting on it you're probably gona have to go back to the primary sources or trust some Natsocs positive interpretation of it.

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>>17942540
If the commies are so stronk and the fascists so weak why did it take them 4 years to defeat a nation with HALF its population size??
Why was it even a fucking CONTEST???
And more over?
Why did the commies bend over and WILLINGLY take it up the ass from the capitalist west while the fascists at least went down fighting?
(pic related)

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>Codreanu’s most effective propaganda in these years was to be work, action, and the example. Hundreds of voluntary labor camps of the Legion, then called the TPT Party, dotted the map of Romania, repairing village bridges, roads, and churches, building dams, digging wells and working “for the collective and national solidarity.” In these camps, the boyar son worked side by side with the son of the laborer and the peasant, creating a powerful feeling of national unity and renovation. If the new intellectuals who graduated (or failed to graduate) in increasing numbers from the universities and joined the ranks of the Legion were strongly anti-Semitic because of the Jewish middle classes blocking their way, the lower classes came to the Legion because they hoped to fulfill their desires for a social justice on a national rather than a Russian Bolshevik platform.

>As the Legion increased in importance, it had to take a certain number of stands on practical issues of the day despite its acute revulsion to dealing with the problems of the sordid twentieth-century industrial age. These stands and attitudes were taken on an ad hoc basis when the Legion had to face them, and the result was a curious mixture of their ideology and more realistic considerations. Although it concentrated its activities in the villages, the Legion formed the Corps of Legionary Workers in 1936 and in addition to the dozens of labor camps, Codreanu ordered the Legion to enter a very new field for Romanians, commerce. He wanted to prove that not only Jews could be successful in this area. "In less than a year, the Battalion of Legionary Commerce founded a chain of Legionary restaurants, groceries, and repair shops covering Bucharest and the provincial towns. The income from these establishments financed vacations for underprivileged children and provided funds for the movement.” Besides the commercial establishments, there was a Legionary welfare organization, and steps were taken to organize Legionary cooperatives. At the opening of the Legionary sanatorium in Predeal, different payment rates were established. Everybody was to pay according to his conscience; the poor were not to pay at all.

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>>17945827
A great man of high moral fibre, I'm not Orthodox but I hope He is in Heaven.

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>>17942540
>If the fascists are so strong and the communists are so thin and hungry, why did the communists erase the fascists from the planet?
lol

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Another highly enlightening thread from our friends from /pol/

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>>17946015

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>>17942509

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>>17946978
Here you go.

>> No.17947351

>>17944280
Yes, not having mentally ill Hitler as their leader.

>> No.17947399

>>17942746
Jews

>> No.17947403

>>17944028
If your people were so strong you'd be able to fight them all off as le master race

>> No.17947431

There is no "third position". Its just capitalism with more larping

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>>17942746
No there isn't. Same shit different name

>> No.17947492

>>17943234
in 2021 fascists are unironically more anti-capitalist than commies. Tell me faggot, when MasterCard, Visa and Paypal colluded to deny service to all reactionary e-celebs, how come the lefties were left completely untouched?

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Israel would have been created either way the wind blew in the second world war.

>> No.17947529

>>17947514
Truly they were God's chosen people

>> No.17947550

>>17942540
Fascists fought a two front war against both capitalists and communists.

>> No.17948624

>>17943117
anglos are disappearing a lot faster than the chinks my friend

based birth control and godless coomers

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>>17942509
>Kita first outlined his philosophy of nationalistic socialism in his book The Theory of Japan's National Polity and Pure Socialism (国体論及び純正社会主義, Kokutairon oyobi Junsei Shakaishugi), published in 1906, where he criticized Marxism and class conflict-oriented socialism as outdated. He instead emphasized an exposition of the evolutionary theory in understanding the basic guidelines of societies and nations

>> No.17948885

>>17942582
Have sex

>> No.17948955

>>17947529
Well I mean, a lot of the nazi party members were Jews themselves, so...

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>>17942509
You are already living it!

>> No.17949908

>>17948967
>facism

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>>17948967
Here I think I fixed it
Putting Heidegger in might be too much for /pol/ since he is pretty hard to read but I had to
Also
>fully automated
Don't want it
>luxury gay anime communism
Don't want it

>> No.17950262

>>17950261
nobody cares what you want

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>>17942509
>Third position
>Two sides of the same log of shit
>niggling that much

Here's a couple books

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>>17942509
Book 2. You can find further reading by googling that headline. Anti-humanism is the only functional system. There are 8 billion of you. You're like ants. You need to live like ants to be successful.

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>>17943468
yes, i agree, but most 'traditionals' today just want capitalism draped in pseudo-medieval set dressing which they have absorbed through contemporary media, hence 'McFeudalism'

>>17947492
no, all fascists are exactly as capitalist as twitter simpletons who call themselves communists, by which i mean that they are extremely capitalist
and for the answer to question see pic related, u gay retard

>> No.17950342

>>17947485
There is, it's that natsoc collapses slower due to enforcing slavery earlier to non-aryans, queer and enemies of the state

>> No.17950344

>>17948787
Based Ikki poster

>> No.17950387

>>17942640
>By the end of the war there were also way more fascists starving than communists.
No shit, because they were very close to losing the war at that point, surrounded on all sides by UK, US, USSR etc lol

>> No.17950531

third positionism is a meme, the furthest left a fascist will go is socdem welfare state

>> No.17950773

>>17942509
Is it possible to be a benevolent dictator?

>> No.17951270

>>17947550
And whose idea was that? Looks like the fascists weren't just weak, stupid too.

>> No.17951312

>>17948967
Adorno wouldn't be in favor of "fully automated" anything, but I guess it's too much to expect /leftypol/ trannies to read

>> No.17951367

>>17950342
Really? When did Fascism in Italy collapse? When did communism in the Soviet Union collapse?

>> No.17951464

>>17950261
kek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6aVn5-Foog

>> No.17951490

>>17945047
You lack almost everything not modern. List discarded.

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>>17944342
>commies
Of all the right wing thinkers to name as someone who "filters commies", you choose someone who influenced Derrida and Marcuse? Odd choice.

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I dont know much about economics to I was hoping someone here could confirm or deny something for me since this is the only thread about econ up

Is it true that modern fiat currency in most western nations is issued by a private entity with interest, meaning that the amount of debt due to interest will always be greater than the amount of money in circulation, with pretty much the only non debt-based alternative being for the government or other private entities to sell assets to said private entity?

>> No.17953420

>>17947485
the existence in one of private property and more decentralized production and distribution seems like a pretty fucking notable difference between the two

>> No.17954100

>>17942509
Who's the guy on the left ?

>> No.17954181

>>17948967
So left is the best one?