/lit/ - Literature

>>17931500
Okay

>>17931534
The war, the revolution, imperialism, the emergence of the Soviet Union and the United States, were not locally confined phenomena. Neither could a movement which came into being as an outcome of the war, a movement which fought revolution with revolutionary methods, which radicalized imperialism, and which saw in the Soviet Union (and in Ämericanism" too, although with less emphasis) the greatest of all threats, be called a locally confined phenomenon, no matter how many differences might be attributable to it due to local conditions. This movement would have found its place in the Europe of the postwar period even if Mussolini and Hitler had never lived. No term other than "fascism" ever been seriously proposed for it. This word has the drawback of being simultaneously name and concept; it has the advantage of being without concrete content and of not, like German National Socialism, implying an unjustifiable claim. It is not the business of scholarly investigation to invent a new term just because the one commonly used cannot satisfy all requirements.
If, then, fascism can be defined as a new reality which did not exist before World War I, or only in rudimentary form, the obvious next step is to declare it to be the characteristic political trend of an era in which, owing to the withdrawal of the two recently emerged "flanking powers," Europe can be regarded once more as the focal point of the world. Out of four principal powers in this Europe two, as we know, became fascist within ten years, and after ten more years a continent which had become almost totally fascist (or so, at least, it seemed) had torn the two "flanking powers" from their isolation and challenged them to battle.

>>17931500
Actually no. Facism is just communism that does not care about brown people, idiot.

>>17931560
Pls go back libertarians are insufferable

>>17931500
I think Ernst Nolte’s categorisation of Action Francaise as fascist is contentious among scholars of fascism.

>>17931573
Reminder that leftoid and rightoid are the generalization of the incel mindset.

https://psyarxiv.com/3nprq/

>>17931615
Plenty of incels I’ve met have been lolberts. Inceldom goes across ideological barriers

>>17931584
The Action Francaise was the first political grouping of any influence or intellectual status to bear unmistakably fascist traits. The fact that it appeared as the latest form of the oldest counterrevolutionary movement - French legitimism and royalism - is its most revealing characteristic, for those modern traits which cannot be traced to this tradition stand out all the more clearly. It goes without saying that its monarchism is not enough to distinguish it irrevocably from fascism: Codreanu and Mosley, De Bono and Ernst Rohm, were also supporters of the monarchy. However, it is not intended as a proof of positive equation with fascism if one long section is devoted to the Action Francaise and placed at the head of this study. It will probably show that the Action Francaise should be called early fascism and that from certain points of view it is even more closely akin to National Socialism than to Italian Fascism.
The precursor here is not the narrow world of anti-Semitic writers, but the great and significant tradition of French counterrevolutionary thought in all its manifestations. That which in National Socialism seems narrow, in Italian fascism too limited to a particular period, stands revealed here on a broader horizon. The curious volte face in liberal thought to be found in Renan and Taine offers more than a mere substitute for the lack of German fascistoid authors. In this volte face - more convincingly because more hesitantly than in the case of Nietzsche - we can grasp that change which, intellectually speaking, anticipated the era of the world wars by nearly half a century.
The history of the Action Francaise forms a symptomatic component of the history of a country which from 1789 to 1919 was always politically a few steps ahead of the rest of Europe.
In spite of all its doctrinal rigidity, the system of Maurras's ideas is of an extent, acuteness, and depth without parallel in the Germany or Italy of that time.
The practice of the Action Francaise anticipates, in the clear simplicity of the rudimentary, the characteristic traits of the infinitely cruder and more wholesale methods used in Italy and Germany.
Seen by itself, the Action Francaise is not an epochal phenomenon. Yet it is, as it were, the missing link demonstrating fascism as a stage in an overall and much older struggle. Only by including it in our scope can this study rest on a proper foundation and we ourselves be justified in undertaking a final appraisal of the scene.

>>17931560
>Facism is just communism
Yes, and that is a good thing.

>>17931660
>>17931560
FASCISM IS ANTI-MARXISM WHICH SEEKS TO DESTROY THE ENEMY BY THE EVOLVEMENT OF A RADICALLY OPPOSED AND YET RELATED IDEOLOGY AND BY THE USE OF ALMOST IDENTICAL AND YET TYPICALLY MODIFIED METHODS, ALWAYS, HOWEVER, WITHIN THE UNYIELDING FRAMEWORK OF NATIONAL SELF-ASSERTION AND AUTONOMY.
This definition implies that without Marxism there is no fascism, that fascism is at the same time closer to and further from communism than is liberal anti-communism, that it necessarily shows at least an inclination toward a radical ideology, that fascism should never be said to exist in the absence of at least the rudiments of an organization and propaganda comparable to those of Marxism. It enables us to understand the extent to which there can be stages of fascism: according to the evolution of the ideology and the predominance of one of its two chief components, the pseudosocialist or the elite -that is, race - element; according to the degree of determination in, and the more or less universal nature of, the will to destruction; and according to the energy of execution. The decisive factors, however, are starting point and direction, for this concept is a "teleological" one, and even the most marked differentiation of stages does not do away with the unity of its essential nature.

>>17931643
Yeah and balls have met with your moms chin many times, but that anecdote doesn't tell us much about how much of a whore she is.

>>17931655
Hmm I think groups like the National Syndicalists, the Cercle Proudhon, the Faisceau, and the Neosocialists are better examples of French fascism. Action Francaise is still too classically reactionary imo, although I would certainly agree that it forms part of the genealogy of fascism, especially its more malleable and syncretic elements.

>>17931688
You took a lot of words to restate what I said.

>>17931500
Wrong
>>17931560
Also wrong


You do realize it's possible to dislike two different ideologies at the same time, right? You don't have to say "Fascism is actually just anti-marxist capitalism" or "Fascism is actually just Marxism". Fascism is Fascism, stop trying to box it in to a completely different ideology.

>>17931703
You're based. Post some books and authors.
>>17931717
Cringe.
>>17931718
Cringe.

>>17931500
>three faces of fascism
Only Italy was fascist, the other movements were their own thing.

>>17931740
I probably can’t post anything which other people here don’t already know

>>17931788
Cringe.
>>17931800
Got any more?

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>>17931898
And the lie? The concept of the state and the nation in fascism is different from that of National Socialism

>>17931935
You seem to like Zeev Sternhell. How does he define fascism?

>>17931962
I wouldn’t say he has a concrete definition of fascism but one way he describes a lot of it is ‘an idealist revision of Marxism’.

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