/lit/ - Literature

"Hey, cuck. You shouldn't be reading those left-wing books. Studies say that it's feminizing you."

*answer that wittily demonstrates that I'm a part of our cool in-group and not part of their evil out-group*

>>17926421
>>17926436
>>17926457
You could just greentext.

>>17926421
I kinda feel bad for guys like that. I'd invite him out for a beer and then discuss both of our viewpoints without becoming angry about our politics.

>>17926421
his voice is so fucking annoying

Day of the Wedgie when. I want weak nerds to be afraid of Chads again.

>>17926472
Why though? He's young, rich, and fucks a new e-girl every week.

>>17926421
Didn't this guy admit to literally never reading books?

>>17926510
And yet he is a still an argumentative, balding, short manlet with a receding hairline. Not exactly my idea of someone to be looked up to.

>>17926421
he has the physique of an 11 year old what the fuck

>>17926421
What's the logic behind the e-sports player->lefty ben shapiro pipeline?

>>17926510
Yeah, and what's going to happen to him in a few years? Zoomers will move on to other streamers, his slot at events will be inched out by others, and nobody wants to fuck or even interact with a shrill hysterical boomer.

>>17926532
mental illness

It is almost never a good idea to listen to someone with a worse physique than you

>>17926436
WHY IS THE RUSSIAN COMEDIAN GARIK HARLAMOV IN THIS PICTURE? pic related him and his ex-wife - he divorced her after she did a nude sex scene in a russian blockbuster

>>17926421
This guy definitely has a bunch of people in a private Discord room doing live research for him. Arguing with him is like arguing with a dozen people at the same time. He's clearly not interested in reaching the truth, he just wants to get an epic BTFOs in there so he can upload it to YouTube with a clickbait title.

>>17926650
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I94gj1EZWto

>>17926421
>>17926436
>hurr durr millenial cuck lefties have no testosterone
>hurr durr millenial right wing incels have no testosterone

Can we take politics out of the equation now? None of us has testosterone nowadays, let's move on.

>>17926650
Top kek

>>17926421
Vaush is a far more disgusting and dishonest person, he is the embodiment of some pol caricature of leftists, its strange

>>17926669
art imitates life

>>17926421
Destiny is a rapist.

>>17926527
>Not exactly my idea of someone to be looked up to.
kek I see what you did there

>>17926723
who?

>>17926723
Augen sind Fenster zur Seele

>>17926671
they're all disgusting

>>17926655
>Arguing with him is like arguing with a dozen people at the same time.
is that your excuse for being a brainlet lmao

>>17926421
"Lo siento, no hablo inglez"

>>17926421
Ryan Dawson and alt hype btfos him so much that he refused to have them on again

>>17926421
I've watched a few debates, and say what you want, no right winger has held their own let alone come close to beating him

>>17927103
bait

>>17927117
Then why did you reply to it, fag

>>17926472
Why would that make sense? Like, he believes the ideas you adhere to could cause what he believes to be some of the worst imaginable crimes against humanity, like, people who believe abortions to be murder can't also be alright with people who go through with abortions yeah? Not a important example in itself but you get what I mean, if you believe someone has horrible ideas then communing with them isn't as simple as a beer and a conviction.

>>17927117
I'm serious dude. You can question the ideology all you want, but rhetorically he is unmatched. Now of course that's because he mainly debates random retards on discord or literal e-celebs, nontheless, those are his peers and he puts them down effortlessly.

>>17927133
bait, try harder next time

>>17926421
I want studies to show Destiny being raped by a pack of GVATEMALAN BVLLS after open borders are implemented like he wants

>>17927136
>nobody could possibly like him! Must be bait!
Very cringe

Who the fuck is this onions guzzler and why should I care?

It's really fucking sad that some of you losers recognize this dweeb or even know his name.

>>17927133
Yeah, debating can be easy when you have an army of faggots doing your own homework while you're arguing why nazis are evil or something.

>>17927142
your baits not working buddy, try another thread

>>17927155
Speuclation and Cope. Any real criticism?

>>17927103
This is like saying Ben Shapiro OWNS lefties by taking super fast. If you slow down a vaush or destiny debate usually the points they make are garbage

>>17927163
Such as?

>>17927161
That's literally what happens in his debates.

>>17927161
>>17927155
stop same-fagging, and get a life

>>17927170

>>17927167
And you've literally no way of knowing that

>>17927173
>post on computer
>post on phone
>heh that will show him
Now post the same screenshot but from your second device.

>>17927179
Why are you sucking Destiny's cock

>>17927170
Go interject somewhere else smoothbrain

>>17927166
He just shills for status quo neoliberalism. And Vaush is some kind of “market socialist” as if those two aren’t mutually contradictory. He also wants a vanguard state but says he’s an anarchist. Really he has no coherent beliefs, and they both got decimated in debate by Infrared the Marxist Chad.

>>17927184
I'm not your criticism is just bad

>>17927173
>>17927188
>what is inspect element
stop it NOW, this is a illness

>>17927188
And there we have it! This loser posted the screenshot from his phone after posting the screenshot from his computer >>17927173
Simply amazing the lengths someone will go to in order to preemptively avoid being confirmed for a samefag.

>>17927182
Lmao big cope

>>17926650
kek

>>17927131
Let's slow things down
>he believes the ideas you adhere to could cause what he believes to be some of the worst imaginable crimes against humanity
Is Destiny religious?
Because unless he is I would love telling him on stream that there is nothing wrong with child rape and mass murder,he can't make any argument againts it
Does Destiny say ''trans rights''?
Which God do the rights come from exactly?

When things like this happen I typically tell the person that I’ll read whatever books I feel like reading. I’m a large imposing chad, though.

>>17927206
Based

>>17927204
Seething cope. Nobody is forcing you to do this

>>17927204
>This loser posted the screenshot from his phone after posting the screenshot from his computer
That would still give a (you) retard

>>17927103
The problem is that most right wingers that are willing to discuss these things publicly won't commit to extreme positions and it makes their arguments untenable. However, there have been a few where Destiny was forced to concede that he had no good arguments. The most notable one that I remember was a friend of weev that committed to the position that multiculturalism and ethnic diversity doesn't work in large groups and causes all sorts of huge problems. There are tons of studies that back this up. Eventually Destiny was forced to concede that it's currently causing tons of problems and that it may never work itself out. He then just agreed to disagree and stated that the other position is morally abhorrent.

>>17926421
>short, balding incel manlet
If you met him on the streets, you'd look down upon him.

>>17927189
Don't conflate the two of them. Vaush is a retarded train wreck but Destiny usually uses decent arguments and solid reasoning compared to his braindead opponents.

>>17927221
reply to this post and I will prove you wrong. I'm posting from the same wifi.

>>17927216
>>17927221
illness

>>17927195
Okay. Well Destiny looks like a nigger faggot.

>>17926421
Honestly pseudo intellectuals like this faggot who self advertise should be castrated.

>>17926421
To be fair, Destiny seems to be a person to use the term deradicalization to mean shifting people to a more moderate position. Most of these people use the term to describe their attempts to turn fascists into anarchists.

>>17927260
>its bait! Ignore
>oh well actually its a samefag!
>its inspect element!
>i mean he's on two devices!
I think you're projecting when you call us mentally ill. Go shit up the Waldun thread instead.

>>17926723
he looks like homer simpson

>>17927259
this is just wrong. please leave this thread.

>>17927131
>if you believe someone has horrible ideas then communing with them isn't as simple as a beer and a conviction.
It is for me, m8. I'm happy to sit down with anarchists and have open-ended discussions about why the government should be abolished, and likewise sit down with national socialists and discuss the Jewish problem. Does not bother me the slightest.

>>17927229
>He then just agreed to disagree and stated that the other position is morally abhorrent.
Is he really that fucking retarded
Genuine fucking question
What religion is he
>morally abhorrent
Is this what red ditors and trannies genuinely watch
Damn these leftist debaters are surely going to ruine le far rite

How can I get into one of his streams and explain him that there is nothing wrong with child rape and child murder?

>>17927206
Also,he genuinely does say ''trans rights'',he is that fucking retarded
https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/cycpcd/destiny_says_trans_rights/

Destiny is a good example of how important rhetoric is, but also the downside of public debate v. written debate.

That's not to say he isn't good at making arguments, but he's not infallible as much as some of his fans wish: no one is.

>>17926510
The mind of a /biz/let

>>17927259
Here you go,maybe if you use mobile date it will change

>>17927254
His moral views are a patchwork of utilitarianism and contractarianism, he is just better at rhetoric compared to his opponents.

>>17927292
Careful he might declare you a samefag and start masturbating over how much of a sleuth he is

>>17927182
paranoid retard

>>17927297
you forgot to explain why is he retarded in saying trans rights

>>17927308
>date
data

>>17927310
>>17927298
It seems to be the case. For example, his entire position on immigration boils down to the fact that more people = higher GDP. You cant have a discussion with someone unwilling to entertain there are other considerations, outside of GDP, to be had.

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>>17927331
>ios
Lmao kill yourself nigger man

>>17927292
See>>17927331

>>17927318
As I explained here
>>17927206
>Which God do the rights come from exactly?

>>17927296
Well I'd say you shouldn't really expect that from other people, and if you don't, fair enough.
>>17927206
I don't really care about whatever argument you're making but it doesn't really matter if his beliefs are founded on solid justifications, my point was that he wouldn't wanna talk to you like you're one of the lads or something.

WHy do people care about these twitch debaters?

>>17927167
Even in those where he is IRL in a 1v1 situation with a discussion moderator at present?

>>17926436
the guy in the flannel on the far left actually looks like he has a pretty good facial structure. He'd definitely look a lot better if he had any decent sense of fashion.
also the one in the middle with the circular glasses looks much more like the liberal humanist type

>>17927298
Destiny has done more to prove Neil Postman right than cable news ever could.

>>17927331
>>17927343
This is getting out of hand

>>17927344
When somebody says trans rights, what they mean is that they support a particular body of policies, or that they approve the trans "lifestyle". It's not an endorsement of Natural Law theories of moral obligation.
So you still haven't explained why is he retarded in saying trans rights.

>>17926671
what's so bad about vaush? I don't really follow breadtube so I don't get why everyone hates him

wojakposting and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

>>17927342
>He can't afford an iphone
Thanks for your precious data! We love you over at google

He's been burning bridges with online left discourse types for the last 2 years. He's like a stierner tier egoist sociopath who just argues for whatever utilitarian position he thinks will benefit him by proxy. Of course his reasoning is all based on skimming wikipedia articles and the 'conclusion' section of published studies so he mostly defaults to the "scientific consensus" which we all know the problems with. He's not purely rational though he's got some weak spots

>>17926723
I wouldn't be surprised but he is a confirmed cock-sucker

>>17926421
Sometimes I read alt-right and alt-left stuff because I can take meaning from both without internalizing it. For me, reading is simply engaging with the material. I can't in good faith say that I want people to read extremist viewpoints though because that radicalizes people I don't like extremists.
If someone said this to me I would respond something like "yeah this is just research I don't believe in this stuff"

>>17927392
>smartphones period
Your data isn't safe if you submit to any of the jew gadgets

>>17927389
He's married to Shrek. I don't know about the laws around interspecies romance, but it's just wrong,

>>17927389
He is often ultra bad faith, and has admitted that his goal in debates with right wingers is to humiliate them without caring about a real discussion of the issues. Which is what all debaters do really so eh.

>>17927331
Meds

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>>17927189
I point out problems here. He really has no consistent beliefs, very bad faith debater and he’s scum as a person too, he’s a pedophile.

>>17927410
Not sure why anyone even watches these hucksters tbqh. Such a waste of everyone's time

>>17927389
His positions are all over the place and he openly admits that he will lie and change positions to win a debate. Despite larping as an extreme revolutionary leftist, he also admits that his actual policy positions aren't that different from the current Democrat status quo.

>>17927376
>>17927415
>proves the point that phones and computers on the same wifi get different sets of (You)'s
>y-y-y-you're just a schizo!

>>17927431
You probably are a schizo.

/lit/ - internet celebrities

>>17927431
It's because nobody gives a fuck about trying that hard, you're projecting whatever weird complex you have onto others. Meds.

>>17927444
/incel/ - internet celebrities

make it happen

>>17927442
Is this image true, in that Biden is still caging illegals?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFx4AT6QCGY

Destiny literally cucked a man.

>>17927463
He put Kamala in charge of fixing it.

>>17927466
go back to >>>/incel/

>>17927401
Well that's one way to avoid "the jew". Enjoy your Motorola dyna

>>17927463
Yep

>>17927463
instead of wire fencing it's now plastic tents so aesthetically they're now "temporary shelters" or some bs instead of cages in the narrative but yeah, there's simply too many fucking people coming on masse and sending their kids alone with coyotes to handle the influx.

all the motherfuckers ITT would get BTFO in a debate with him or even by one of his lackeys

>>17927425
It's entertaining if you take it in small doses and it's hard to find similar content because the left in general refuses to engage with almost anyone that doesn't fully buy into their extremely narrow worldview.

Almost the entire online left collectively agreed to stop doing debates/discussions because Hasan Piker kept getting destroyed by complete clowns. Hundreds of thousands of people watched live as he repeatedly got destroyed by the absolute worst the right has to offer.
Now they preach to the choir and refuse to engage people with different views. Everyone that doesn't hold their opinions is now a "debate bro" and uses shady "debate tactics."

>>17927428
What's amazing to me is that when someone asked him about his underlying beliefs, he basically said that they amounted to Jordan Peterson's interpretation of Foucault. Who could have guessed that his obsession with calling out "bad faith" arguments was really just projection.
He's also the least funny man on the face of the earth. Say what you want about the Chapos, but at least they can make jokes that go beyond regurgitating memes back to his audience.

>>17927508
>If someone talks fast, has a nonsensical ethical system and cherrypicks a bunch of studies he’s right
Lol k.

>>17927508
Sure, but I don't believe in public spoken debates to begin with.

>>17927348
Dear newfag
Please leave the board and never come back
I genuinely think you're a tranny
Morality doesn't exist,there is absolutely nothing wrong with the holocaust,any genocide or any mass rape.
Epstein and Dirlewanger didn't do anything wrong,at all.
>If there is no God, everything is permitted
I would love to see the non-binary Destiny try and walk around this

>but it doesn't really matter if his beliefs are founded on solid justifications,
My justification for being a ''transphobe'' is that it pleases me to be one
What the fuck will Destiny say againts that?
>>17927387
>what they mean is that they support a particular body of policies, or that they approve the trans "lifestyle"
So it doesn't mean that trannies ''deserve'' ''rights''?
He supports trans rights just because trans rights please him?
I'm not entirely sure what kind of ''morality'' flavour he is poisoned by as I'm not a big enough loser to watch debaters,but even if he doesn't buy that spook he is still retarded.
There is no reason anywhere for me to support trans rights,he can't make any argument for it.

>So you still haven't explained why is he retarded in saying trans rights.
It pleased me to call him retarded
>>17927454
I want this,people who watch debaters are the most braindead fuckers around.

>>17927466
More chad than 90% of anyone that uses 4chan these days.
pol created an entire meme ideology because they cannot compete with 100pound 5'8 32 year olds. Fuck

>>17927516
>Hasan kept getting destroyed
Such as? Never seen it..he seemed good on trainwrecks where he kept shutting down Fuentes.

>>17927548
He's the only person I've ever seen lose to Sargon.

is murder the only endgame of radicalization? there are plenty of reasons to murder people. many not very radical, most straight up banal

>>17927538
>>17927548
bait, and the same person again. please get help

>>17927548
Go watch any of his one on one content from a year or two ago. This >>17927550 anon is right and the only reason Hasan stopped doing that type of content is because he was exposed as an idiot that hasn't thought about his views for more than a few seconds. The vast majority of his content is reading misleading Twitter headlines and taking them as gospel. Even nepotism couldn't save him.

>>17927556

>>17927518
>If someone talks fast
not an argument
>has a nonsensical ethical system
explain further
>cherrypicks a bunch of studies
explain further

>>17927103
his debates with Fuentes are very entertaining, he has like 3 so far

>>17926468
The redditors

Pic related is what not watching debate niggers does to you

>>17927595
>>17927597
>>17927598
Stop it. leave the computer, and get help. no one can be this obsessed

BAN ALL E-CELEB POSTERS

>>17927350
It’s Zoomers who care. Once you get a little bit older you stop enabling or engaging retards because you see what a waste of time it is to argue with them or about them. A personality such as Destiny offers the ideological equivalent of fast food; many people don’t have the fortitude to prevent themselves from consuming fast food.

>>17927229
>committed to the position that multiculturalism and ethnic diversity doesn't work in large groups and causes all sorts of huge problems

What are the best arguments against this? From what I can see most studies seem to agree with this. I've seen some people argue that it will eventually work itself out but that seems to be accepted largely on faith.

>>17927597
Meds

>>17927637
I agree
People who watch debate niggers are all losers that don't belong on this site
Reddit suits them better

>>17927636
>Stop it. leave the computer, and get help. no one can be this obsessed

TFW I don't recognize any of these E-celebs

>>17927650
You don't even know where the dance comes from retard

Anyone who watches ecelebs needs a dose of Meds and BBC

Destiny trying to be taught philosophy by twitch chat was cute.
pic related his chart of "polyaxiomatic ethics"

>>17927527
Nigga I don't care about his arguments and like I said that wasn't my point was that the average joe doesn't exactly go hit the town with holocaust deniers, if you care this much about fake ass culture wars that's your loss for allowing such things to hold power over you.

Do you guys use Kiwifarms? You seem like the type of guys who would.

>>17927663
Utilitarianism is a cancer

>>17927594
Yeah, but it was a good decision on his part. He's a more entertaining streamer than someone like Destiny, so he doesn't have to depend on debates for views.
He's also become far more moderate as he's started making more money.

>>17926421
Here’s a great life tip for you guys: if a person is physically repulsive, you shouldn’t place any value on their philosophical world view. It’s a wonderful time saving tool.

>>17927364
he's on the far left, that's why he doesn't look as horrible as the rest :D

>>17927680
Holy based

>>17927663
Does he know that rule utilitarianism is a thing or who Derek Parfait is?

>>17927676
I agree completely. Hasan is more suited to playing mundane Italian stereotypes on GTA online.

lol @the schizoposte rseething his brains out. Congrats op

>>17927645
>>17927650
>>17927663
>>17927667
>>17927675
>>17927676
>>17927682
>>17927690
>>17927691
This is getting out of hand, I need you to leave. seek help, reach out to loved ones, or someone you can confide in.

>>17926421
Reminder that rightoids and leftoids are low iq children.
https://psyarxiv.com/3nprq/

Neoliberals rise up!

Pic related is this entire thread
Debate niggers go back to red dit

>>17927704
I have friends who are really into these guys. It's better than being like another friend of mine who latches onto every flavor of the month right wing grifter.

>>17927713
>>17927707
bait

>>17926421
I love Destiny OP

>>17927728
>>17927713
>>17927707
bait, and all the same person. get help

>>17927740
>>17927723
>>17927704
>>17927658
>>17927636
bait. Seek help