/lit/ - Literature

>>17901122
She was a Fascist of sorts, so it depends whether you consider that Leftist in any sense.

Someone post the bit about that esoteric fascist who made a pilgrimage to see her and said that her whole house smelt like urine, she came off as unhinged, and cared more about her hundreds of cats than the starving people around her.

Lots of nazi positions could be considered lefty or "green" positions.

Goring banned hunting with hounds, boiling crustaceans alive (they believed the sound of steam escaping the shell was screaming), and sent people who were cruel to animals to concentration camps.
Nazis banned vivisection.
All slaughtered animals had to be knocked out.
Hitler shared plans with Goebbels to make Germans vegetarian after the war.

>is she a lefty
>book cover has a swastika and tyr rune on it

>>17901122
yes

>>17901236
Yeah it is well known that she lived like one of the incarnations of Buddha spending most of her money to feed animals.

>>17901245
are you suggesting we literally judge a book by its fucking cover?

What do you mean by "lefty"?
Different people ascribe different things to "left-wing" and "right-wing"

>>17901262
No, she lived like a crazy cat lady. There used to be a great article by a guy involved in the neofascist movement about how she was a borderline sociopath who lived in a refuse strewn house stinking like cat-piss. You're getting memed into following psychobabble written by a living stereotype.

>>17901122
According to Nick Land, yes.

>>17901122
>leftist
She literally thought Hitler was a god anon.

>>17901244
Green policies are not inherently left or right-wing.

>I liked this book, but I need someone to tell me what meaningless label I can put on it before I make up my mind about it
How about you impeach (rope) yourself, OP.

>>17901236
She sounds based.

>>17901386
Your bias is showing. The incarnations of Buddha who threw himself off a cliff to use his body to feed tigers could be called suicidal.

>>17901236
>cared more about her hundreds of cats than the starving people around her.
please accept that i am being completely sincere when i say that this is perfectly understandable

>>17901122
>a lefty
I'm sure she was against monarchy and inherited titles yes.

>>17901122


YOU WILL NEVER COMPREHEND SAVITRI DEVI'S WORKS, NOR THE WORLD, SO LONG AS YOU KEEP CATEGORIZING INDIVIDUALS AS, EITHER: «LEFTISTS», OR «RIGHTISTS».

>>17901236
>eco-fascist
>cares about domestic cats
some things never change

She literally calls Marxists evil and anti-natural anthropocentric golems of the Jew and says that Hitler was literally an incarnation of God, while believing in an eternal hierarchical order of Nature. She literally says in Impeachment of Man that she can’t talk about Hitler or the Third Reich because it was written right after the war.

Stop operating on the false right / left dichotomy. National Socialism was closer to a form of Hinduism than anything else.

>>17901122
imagine being stuck in the left vs right paradigm
just enjoy works you see as helpful

>>17901862
For once the Spaniard is right

>>17901122

>>17901122
Bro what does the false dichotomy of left-right matter? She's right about a lotta things

>>17901122
>>17901145
Yep, nazism and fascism are both leftwing (and separate) ideologies

>>17901420
>Green policies are not inherently left or right-wing
that's wrong, the left just can't admit to themselves they've adopted a form of conservatism

>>17902731
>>17902739
Brainlet detected, read at one's peril.

what would you suggest as an alternative? are you simpling saying we shouldn't try to have a framework for comparing ideas

OP here please suggest books to get me out of the left-right thinking that I appear to be stuck in. Plato said not to criticise people who are attempting to better themselves no matter how slowly they do so help me /lit/bros

>>17902759
lmao

>>17902759
based

>>17901244
>Goring banned hunting with hounds, boiling crustaceans alive (they believed the sound of steam escaping the shell was screaming), and sent people who were cruel to animals to concentration camps.
>Nazis banned vivisection.
>All slaughtered animals had to be knocked out.
>Hitler shared plans with Goebbels to make Germans vegetarian after the war
jesus what a bunch of insufferable faggots no wonder Spengler and Jünger severed ties with them.
>picrel

>>17901862
SHE'S UNDENIABLY HOT POST MOAR ALSO INTERPUNCTION IS FUCKING GAY QUIT IT

>>17902877
>hates faggots
>thinks he isn't a nazi
Sorry but using that word makes you a nazi.

>>17901397
Sauce?

>>17901236
>cared more about her hundreds of cats than the starving people around her
That book is literally about how much humans suck and the earth should be depopulated. What did you expect, commie?

>>17903088
Cats are the humans of the animal world.

>>17902824
Plato was a retard.

>>17903238
Sure.

Yikes! Can we quit using the left-right dichotomy already you fucking nigger.

>>17901268
Yes. I've never understood this phrase. You obviously judge a book by its cover.

>>17902750
>>17901145
It' isn't either, there's a reason it's usually referred to as "third position"

>>17902769
A “framework” is not the same as a “dichotomy”
Don’t ever call anyone brainlet again, you absolute tard

>>17901122
Quick rundown on this savitri individual?

>>17905562
nazi and white who larped as a hindu in one of the few multicultural sects despite being a fervent traditionalist and racial supremacist.

>>17905562
Hitler but an Indian cat lady

>>17902877
Didnt Wagner already shit on Mendelssohn?Mahler was a neurotic jew so of course they banned his music as well.

>>17901244
>Nazis banned vivisection.
Even on unconscious animals?
How would we study rat brains?

>>17901862
This
They're fabrications without any inherent set specifications
All you have to do is change the environmental context and you can no longer apply the idelogies to mean the same thing

Unburden yourself from the LR bullshit

>>17906104
Rats are far nobler than most human beings, especially that despicable Jew named Jesus.
The sacrifices of each rat in labs mean far more than that despicable kike.
I would rather torture and crack open the skulls of Jews and blacks instead of innocent animals. Add Christcucks and Mudslimes in there too. Go scream for your beloved kike and Bedouin all the way to hell.

>>17901977
this
take the Linkola-pill and exterminate all cats

>>17904174
>there's a reason it's usually referred to as "third position"
to trick ill informed members of working class into fighting against their own interests?

Yes, socialism is leftist

>>17906236
based

>>17906104
yup, here's the animals of the world saluting hermann goering for protecting them

>>17904174
"third position" is just garden variety blairite neoliberalism

>>17906965
This seems rather obviously wrong, if Tony Blair had started implementing Hitler or Mussolini's policies you would see that as just par for the course, and not a radical deviation from the norm?

>>17906965
Pure Wittgenstein. You have actually lost the ability to engage communicatively with language.

I loved The Lightning and the Sun when I read it like 14 years ago.

>>17901122
Reading it now and she’s kind of cringe

>>17906236
Holy based

>>17901420
>Green policies are not inherently left or right-wing.
That's right, first ''green" policies were right wing and the left attitude was 'look at these filthy bourgious who have time to care about their gardens or whatever and Heidegger was the holder of the critique of industrial abuses of nature, then, the "green" movments joined the rainbow coalition, now the "green" movements are returning to Right Wing Vitalism.

>>17906435
Bro I'm don't need no fighting for anyones interest,I already got all I need
Why are all communists such sissies?

>>17901236
Lmao the absolute state of f*males

>>17901236
All the marks of a genius.

>>17906236
Top kek

>>17904126
Now that I read on e-readers I judge the book by its title more than anything. Having a real hard time going through Gormenghast.

>>17906435
You mean like the left has since the '60s?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Left

>Nononono you can't criticize the open immigration legislation that the capitalists lobbied for!!!! Let them have it bro we don't care about the bourgeoisie bringing in potentially hundreds of millions of scab laborers, from a limitless supply in third world countries with nonexistent class consciousness!!!
>Dude you're focusing on the wrong enemy, your enemy is not the billions of scabs being brought in to dilute your vote and destroy your bargaining power!!!!! Mexican scab workers are workers too, so they're our ally!!
>NONONONO BRO DON'T MENTION IMMIGRATION BRO THAT'S A RIGHT WING TALKING POINT, REMEMBER WE ARE LEFT WING, LEFT WING, THAT MEANS WHEN THE CAPITALISTS LOBBY THE GOVERNMENT TO IMPORT TRILLIONS OF SCABS WE LOOK THE OTHER WAY BECAUSE TODAY'S SCABS ARE TOMORROW'S REVOLUTIONARIES!!!

Great strategy, it's working so far comrade!

>>17906435
>Excuse me disgusting flyover pleb worker who is barely fit to make my latte when I'm between classes at Barnard, you're ill informed for voting for the candidate who talks about protecting workers from international corporations who export industries overseas to third world countries with zero labor protections, re-creating the nightmares of industrializing England described by Marx and Engels
>Here let me educate you on how post-marxian leftism since the 60s which has primarily been about liberating bourgeois subjectivities is the way
>Didn't you know you wanted to be transgender? Well now you do! In fact your sexual preference, your leisure activities and lifestyle, and especially your ethnicity are all the MOST important things about you!
>Don't be deceived by the right wingers who appear to be listening to you when you say that you "only care about labor protections and are otherwise content to be left alone with your existing culture," they are deceiving you.. They want you to remain connected to your Polish heritage and faith, they even want you to... oh god... raise children who share the same values as you and your parents
>Don't listen to those icky conservatives, here, get on twitter with me, we're currently cooperating with Pepsi and Johnson&Johnson to organize a rally in honor of some criminal you've never met!
>WORKERS OF THE WORLD, UNITE!

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she was a sweet cat lady who really liked hitler, i don't think there's much more to it than that. it's unironically the same as low follower instagram girls who really look up to whatever big influencer and end up taking their teachings more seriously than the influencers themselves do. devi's influencer was just literally hitler so she's stuck around in the consciousness because it's such unique juxtaposition.

impeachment of man is funny to read as it has a much different angle of approaching animal rights than the standard vegan dialog of today, but i don't think you can actually be convinced by the arguments in the book. at one point she goes on a weird tangent about how it's okay to eat eggs since if the baby chickens were born from the eggs they would live horrible lives. she clearly doesn't understand biology or ethics, just saying random things she thinks of.

basically she's interesting as historical quirk but definitely don't try to get anything of value out of her.