/lit/ - Literature

>>17891339
She's literally the anti-whore

>>17891339
>aware he's dead
She wasn't. That was the point. No one knew where the fuck he went. Most just assumed he was dead. She refused to accept that answer and stayed faithful where all others would fall

>>17891351
>>17891360
doesn't matter, ullyses cheat on her.

>but is ok when guys cheat

>>17891364
she deserved it for being a whore
>but she didn't cheat
but she could and that makes her a WHORE

>>17891364
Ulysses took mistresses when it was absolutely necessary for his survival, but he never stopped trying to return home. He could have easily lived out the rest of his life with circe or become an actual god and live with calypso, but he refused. Also the little tryst with circe came back to bite him in the ass in the lost book

>>17891339
it was different time, modern women wouldnt do that.

>>17891400
>is ok when the guy cheat but is not ok when the girl cheats

>>17891364
The fair thing to do is that Odysseus would let her cheat as she liked for the same amount of time he was with Callisto and Circe. That way it’s fair.

>>17891409
Calypso not Callisto

>>17891408
Yes.

Homerino

>>17891339
It remains to be amazed at the patience of her suitors. Either they liked women "aged", or they have already followed the principle.

>cheats and fantasizes about it next to you

>>17891734
It's unrealistic that they would marry for anything but political/economic/kin-building reasons anyway. Looks are only a factor if the woman is hideous.

>>17891339
That plot device would have never worked if the genders were reversed.

>>17891383
jesus christ, this is the worst board.

>>17891339
>nooooooooooo story doesn't fulfill my incel cuck fantasy so it must be false!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>17891408
Yes.

Sometimes, people will do the right thing. Sometimes.

>>17891339
Homer was the author, the characters were fictional, of course he knows she is loyal because he created her.

>>17891364
Yes, one of my favorite things about the Odyssey is how it illustrates natural gender roles.

>>17891339
Implying it isn't in her best interest. She's the Queen and parties everyday. If she marries, her new husband will kill her son and rule without listening to her. What would you have done, add a scene in Hades where Ulysses meets Dionysos, ask him if she's faithful and the Frogs go brekekekex koax koax at his naivety?

I honestly think Penelope is one of the best examples of womanhood in all of literature.

>>17892753
People. Not women.

>>17891339
t: Ariosto

Yes, Odysseus cheats on Penelope. The thinig is, Penelope is the symbol of faithfulness, Odysseus isn't. The book never pretended Odysseus was perfect in any way. He's smart and mischievous, but also tends to gloat and mess with people and he is often kind of a dick, even if he can be really nice aswell. And yeah, he cheats on his loyal wife.

>>17891791
Bloom cheated on his wife much more than she cheated on him, funnily enough. Also, her stream of thoughts eventually flows towards the moment when she agreed to marry Bloom, which can be considered as the eventual triumph of their marriage. Molly is a hypocritical whore, but everyone in that book is hypocritical (and that's not even supposed to be judgemental, it's just how humans are - they have different views and opinions depending on the situations they find themselves in).

>>17891383
Caesar's wife must be above suspicion.

>>17891364
She could cheat but then Odysseus would come back and she'd be banished lmao. It's not even that she was faithful, it was the smart thing to do. What was she gonna do? Get together to one of these lowlife suitors and die in poverty and shame once Based Odysseus was back? Get fucked hole.

>>17891696
his name was Όμηρος