/lit/ - Literature

>>17888300
because they are atheists

>>17888300
>usually
Hyperbole, maybe once a week an edgy 16 year old says that to troll Islam.

>Why do people on here usually state that the Koran has no literary merit?
Because it doesn’t and is a repetitive mess without any context whatsoever

>>17888300
#justseethingchristniggerthings

>>17888300
Because most of its literary merit is derived from other works, and what it adds is really repetitive shit.

>>17888888
Checked, Koran confirmed derivative and repetitive.

>>17888888
Checked

>>17888898
>>17888903
shut the fuck up christshits

>>17888911
>911

>>17888911
>christshits
Point out where either post mentioned Christianity

>>17888888
checked

>>17888300
The metaphor that surah's using has been done to death by the end of the 6th century, though it's hardly a surprise considering that most of the koran is just translated syriac christian hymns and homilies.

The rest is syntactically garbled text.

>>17888300
3 questions for you,
1) show an example of someone stating that the holy Quran has ni litterary merit, what are their arguments
2) show an example of arabic litterature with litterary merit
3) explain why the numerous répétition in the holy Quran are necessary. Example, al baquara47 and baquara 122.

>>17888965
>répétition
sorry Macron, we're not changing it.

>>17888964
>it’s garbled because I’m a whiny christcuck baby

>>17888987
Nah I just have no religious incentive to look away from the results of textual criticism.

The textual criticism of the quran is about to go through an explosion not unlike that of the bible's in the first half of the 19th century. It was forbidden to examine its origins critically for the longest time, but not for long anymore.

You shouldn't fear this if you have nothing to hide.

>>17889038
“It’s bad because it’s bad” isn’t valid criticism, libcuck.

>>17889042
Are you genuinely retarded or only pretending?

>>17888300
Nice byzantine architecture you got there, Ahmed.

>>17888888
checked

>>17888888
Checked.

>>17889057
Nice seethe you got there christcuck

>>17888300
>>17888964
>>17889057
>>17888911
>>17889074

All Abrahamism, from Christianity to Islam, are Semitic distortions of Zoroastrianism.
Judaism, Christianity, and Islam were born from resentment towards their spiritual superiors, the Sassanian Zoroastrians.
Also, Byzantines and Rashidun were equally subhuman and worked together.

>>17888888
Just checking those

>>17889169
In the case of Judaism, it was born from wanting to win favor of Achaemenids*

>>17889169
Nice opinion you got there.

>>17888965
>explain why the numerous répétition in the holy Quran are necessary
Being a revelation of God and his infinite wisdom pouring out through a person is what causes that. The infinite is being sieved first through the mind of a man, then it's being poured out thorough the limited language, so that you will only get a fragment of what was poured in the mind of a fragment of what really is.
>If We Had Sent Down This Qur'an On A Mountain, You Would Have Seen It Humble Itself And Split Asunder From The Fear Of ALLAH, We Are Citing This Example For Mankind, So That They May Take Heed.
This is both talking of the infinitude of Allah, but also of the capacity of God's favorite creation, human, that he can withstand what Allah has revealed without tearing asunder. Funny that people mention how Quran is repetitive, how it's continuous, how it's just shifts from one theme to another mid sentence as proof that it's not the word of God, when in fact those things are what prove that it is, because a work of a human would have been structured in order that it gets transmitted better but how do you structure infinity?

1.Muhhamad never existed, the original muslims were judaised christians, and Islam is a nestorian heresy.

2.Quran is made up almost completely made up with lines from the Old Testament, but paraphrased.

3. The other half is just Arab tribal politics and tribal laws. There is no actual theology in it.

>>17889511
What's funny is recent research is showing lack of evidence in Jesus, Muhammad, and Mose's shit existences.
However, Zoroaster and Bodhidharma did exist, interestingly enough. I think much of Abrahamism is just a cope and bastardization of random tropes from Zoroastrianism.

>>17889511
"theology" is how christcucks cope with the inconsistencies in the "bible", islam doesn't need it

>>17889537
I think you suck dicks

>>17889575
The fighting between Mudslimes and Christcucks is pathetic. You're both shit.

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>>17889584
shower dodger?

>>17889583
Much of the criticisms of Pisslam are also applicable to Cuckstianity. Byzantines and Rashdiun worked together, and there is some circumstantial evidence that shows Byzantines actually helped create and weaponize Pisslam against spiritually superior Sassanids. Islam was a largely creation of Catholics in close coordination with Bedouins.

>>17889599
>Much of the criticisms of Pisslam are also applicable to Cuckstianity.

You're talking to me and others as if we were all Christian and I suggest that you stop humiliating yourself in that manner.

>>17889618
Then I agree with you.
All of West Eurasia was meant to be Zoroastrian fyi. It was due a historical conspiracy this didn't happen. Study the Sassanian-Byzantine-Rashidun wars more carefully.
Also, Constantine fabricated his vision of Jesus during a time of war with Sassanids. Ask yourself why during such a time? This is because he wanted to use Nestorians as a fifth column against the spiritually superior Sassanids. It was the first time in history appealing to an "oppressed minority" became used as a pretext to intervention.
The Greeks were admirable enemies, but the Romans had to sacrifice their entire culture to fight the Romans! In fact, one can argue Europe *largely* lost its connection to its Pre-Christian traditions when it became Christian no different than Eranshahr's turn to Islam, which was also largely due to traitorous elements in House of Sasan.
Abrahamism purely grew for geopolitical purposes. There is absolutely not a single aspect of merit in the entirety of the trash Abrahamic traditions. This is why ethnic cleansing will be necessary in the future to destroy and eradicate all of their "culture", which has held the world considerably back.

>>17889645
>had to sacrifice their entire culture to fight the Romans
has to sacrifice their entire culture to fight the Persians*

>>17889645

Constantine wasn't emperor during the Sassanian-Byzantine wars, it was Heraclius and that happened 200 years after Constantines conversion and christinization of the empire. Other than that I agree with you.

>>17889711
>Constantine wasn't emperor during the Sassanian-Byzantine wars
Yes, he was... Sassanian empire began during 224 CE. Constantine was emperor during 272. Wars were pretty intense.
>Heraclius
It was more than 200 years after Constantine's conversion... More like 400 years. I argued Constantine had temporary secret alliance with Rashidun.
>Other than that I agree with you.
You need to get your dates right, dude.

>>17889599
RETARD ALERT

>>17889744
>>17889711
>>17889733
You're the retard, cuck.
I don't understand why people fixate on Greek vs Achaemenid wars. It is in truth not culturally relevant to modern times. The Sassanian vs Byzantines wars were fundamental in forging modern identities of pretty much all of West Eurasia. It is important for pretty much all West Eurasians from Europeans, North Africans, Iranians, Arabs, and etc. to study this long-lasting, ~400 year war, to understand how Abrahamism ultimately spread.
If anyone thinks it was due to the "Will of God", then they are utter fools.

>>17889744
You're the retard, cuck.
I don't understand why people fixate on Greek vs Achaemenid wars. It is in truth not culturally relevant to modern times. The Sassanian vs Byzantines wars were fundamental in forging modern identities of pretty much all of West Eurasia. It is important for pretty much all West Eurasians from Europeans, North Africans, Iranians, Arabs, and etc. to study this long-lasting, ~400 year war, to understand how Abrahamism ultimately spread.
If anyone thinks it was due to the "Will of God", then they are utter fools.

>>17889769
>If anyone thinks it was due to the "Will of God", then they are utter fools.
Everything happens due to will of god

>>17889537
Jesus most certainly did exist, Moses most certainly did not. Muhammad is a bit of a grey area, in that he probably existed although it's unlikely that he was a prophet and that this was a later fabrication.

>>17889778
Okay, so Palestinians, Yemenites, and Iraqis were bombed by America due to the will of God. Children were ripped into pieces and mutilated due to the will of God.
Torture and more was due to will of God also.
Dumbass.

>>17889733

What are you talking about dude? Constantine the great died in 337 AD, if anything he was influenced by Zoroastrianism/Mithraism like Aurelian before him.

The Arabs enter the picture later during the late 300's as the Lakhmids and Tanukhids. The former were fanatical christian's while teh Lakhmids were enemies/vassals of the Sassanians. The Lkahmids were annexed in 602 and after that the muslims start to enter the picture. The early muslims were Jews who intermarried with nestorian arab christians.

Watch this , its the best historical breakdown of the early Muslims with just Quranic evidence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nQ2YPWGYcw&ab_channel=Sneaker%27sCorner

>>17889794
Problem is each time historians critically study where Muhammad existed, they get killed. For example, one was thrown from the top of a building for studying whether Koran was a distortion of an Aramaic Nestorian text. In Aramaic, "virgins in heaven" translates into "grapes on a vine" which makes more thematic sense.
Jesus may have existed, but he doesn't resemble any accounts we hear of him. He was probably one out of many apocalyptic preachers which was common back then.

>>17889810
>Constantine the great died in 337 AD
Sassanian empire began in 224 AD, and there was a war with Sassanian empire during the time of Constantine's conversion...
Muhammad was probably an invention of Rashidun in order to unite Arab tribes for imperial purposes. I am going off gut instinct there.

>>17888911
he just posted a quote lol

>>17889798
Yes

>>17889892
satanic pedophiles who rape children is will of god
children who die from defects is will of god
my faith being mocked and dying is will of god
absence of god is will of god
Also, I thought you were a Mudslime at first, but then I realized Christcuck

>>17888912
lmao

>>17890037
>I hate all religions equally
>that somehow makes me a better person

>>17890091
I hate Abrahamists. I am actually very religious.
I want to force-convert all Abrahamists and slaughter those who resists, torture and gouge out their eyes. I'm fine with every single Christcuck, Mudslime, and Jew dying.

>>17890109
Are you shia or something? Wtf?

>>17890115
Both you Shia and Sunni are the same shit. Every single one of you deserves to die.

>>17890125
A self hating Muslim, now that's a first.

>>17890130
I'm not a Mudslime, low-IQ trash.

>>17889794
What do you mean. Of course Mudman existed. He was an autistic bandit who went around robbing people before he realized that it was far easier to just use religion to control people instead. He made them pay him tithes and then sat in a cave for hours on end and washed himself three times daily. And when people annoyed him he told them god said they should leave him alone. He's a fucking sperg and pulled the greatest prank on humanity since the original desert scrolls.

>>17890193
Muhammad as a conqueror most likely existed, but that's it. All references to his religious teachings rely on much later works and a huge amount of it was most likely fabricated.