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I've noticed multiple posts about him and I haven't read much of his stuff but I honestly don't understand why users like him. Do they agree with his beliefs? Or is it just because he's an interesting quack?

>> No.17881806

You should read him for yourself.

>> No.17881810

>>17881798
he waer monocole

>> No.17881813

>>17881798
Garbage, don’t bother.
>inb4 midwit Evolafags start spamming that I didn’t understand Evola

>> No.17881854

>>17881798
what’s his deal? considering reading some of his stuff

>> No.17881910

>>17881806

Can you share a brief summary of what kind of ideas one would encounter when reading Evola?

>> No.17881929

Edgy contrarianism.

>> No.17881949

>>17881798
He wrote some true things but there is also a lot of shit in his books. I think he is a good tool to redpill the /pol/fags.

>> No.17881963

does his “magic” shit work?

>> No.17881987

Evola is simultaneously one of the most systematic and serious occultists of the last several centuries, one of the few people to get abreast of modern philosophy and its total metaphysical and epistemological significance (because, on account of his occultism, he wasn't bound to cough nervously when the subject of actual metaphysics was brought up), and one of the few people to try to connect all this with modern historical, sociocultural, and political developments, to understand in a general way what the relationship between thought and reality is for modern man.

Usually even talented thinkers are deficient in two (or more) of these areas. Heidegger is a philosophical heavyweight and knows to connect this with the real condition of modernity, but he is conspicuously silent on issues of metaphysical foundations. Marx is a great thinker for analysing social structures but the vast majority of Marxists are childishly naive materialists and naturalists, not even out of genuine metaphysical conviction but as a sort of default position, because they are truly and simply indifferent to metaphysical questions beyond the socio-cultural. That's what draws them to an already pantheist, self-enclosed, idealist critique like Hegel's in the first place, and what draws them to sever it even further from any notion of the Absolute and turn it into a solipsistic social philosophy. And so on.

Evola does the exact opposite. All the phenomenology of a Heidegger is meaningless unless it is merely a propaedeutic to real metaphysics. All the critical apparatus of a Marx is meaningless unless it serves to establish a real relationship with a real metaphysical order, in which case it is a mere technique. (Lukacs comes closest to this but is still a vulgar materialist in the end.)

Anyone who thinks Evola is le racist fascist wizard is probably too young to understand, or just not cut out for philosophy and will never get beyond a rough-and-ready understanding of Spengler (really they should read Chamberlain's Foundations of the Nineteenth Century) when it comes to their worldview. Anyone who thinks Evola is a shallow thinker is probably a Marxist who doesn't even read his own foundational texts and couldn't tell Bernstein from Lukacs so why should they be entitled to comment on the philosophical sophistication of a rival weltanschauung they understand even less? Anyone who reads Evola sensitively knows that he encompasses Heidegger's phenomenology and moves beyond it in a single step. Evola put fundamental ontology in its proper place as a preliminary techne for an actual metaphysically oriented praxis, and saw better and two generations earlier than academic Heidegger criticism its implicit state in Nietzsche and the other proto-lebensphilosophen.

>> No.17882174

>>17881798
They don't. He's just so out there that it's fun to read.

>> No.17882253

>>17881798
Go read him if you're interested you retard

>> No.17882277

>>17881798
>I haven't read much of his stuff but I honestly don't understand why users like him
well maybe you should read him first you dumb motherfucker. What kind of nonsense is this

>> No.17883122

>>17881798
he called himself a super fascist, that's pretty cool

>> No.17883271

All the ideas and possible interpretations are interesting, Evola is enjoyable to read for anyone with platonist or occult/religious inclinations. It's fun.

>> No.17883779

I regret ever reading Evola for the simple reason that I read him when I was already depressed and sensed something wrong with both myself and the world. His view of the world, which I came to accept and internalize, is profoundly alienating, depressing, and most importantly, inescapable to the point that it accelerated my misery to a degree it hasn’t reached before. I wasn’t able to continue reading him and find a degree of coping or salvation so I stopped, burned his books, and never read him again.

>> No.17884066

>>17881987
Madlad actually did it

>> No.17884115

>>17881798
>Can someone explain to me in concrete terms why they like Julius Evola?
Because they can't read.

>> No.17884391

>>17881987
/thread

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>>17881798
You have made this thread like six times already just read it if you're curious jesus fuck, or if you are trying to do some cringe "proving them wrong" routine or some shit just post reasons why evola is wrong instead of doing this shitty bait so at least there is actual discussion in your thread you fucking nigger at thread died for this

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>>17881987
Based

>> No.17885240

>>17881987
this but unironically

>> No.17885275

>>17881798
The beliefs reshape you into someone better

>> No.17885868

>>17885215
Don't post sinful/mentally Ill content in this blessed thread

>> No.17885889

Anyone who reads evola should be shot. absolute parasites that don't deserve to live in this liberal society.

>> No.17885890

>>17885889
(You)

>> No.17885904

>>17883779
Evola is not for the coper, no matter how much shills here claim it is so. It's unfortunate you had that experience.

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>>17881987
Nice.

>> No.17886059

>>17885868
But I'm horny for cute boys anon

>> No.17886087

>i dont understand why people like this thing i know nothing about
you dont say?

>> No.17886142

>>17883779
Being one of Evola's Differentiated Men is one of the realest test of internal strength a person could possibly take in this day and age so why would you choose any other way?

>>17885904
This, you'll regret all the time wasted not heeding the warnings and strengthening yourself in 10 years. The path forward, as All occult knowledge would suggest is one of caution and secrecy. To openly separate yourself from the herd is an over-dramatic position not feasible for most at the moment. It may be best to remain aloof and quiet until the time arrives but one thing is for certain: Throwing yourself back into the clown world chaosphere begets nothing but more torment and dissolution, all without a scrap of dignity.

The weak can become strong under harsh trials gifted from on high, that is the path of heroism.

>> No.17887047

>>17886059
cringe

>> No.17887061

>>17881987
>Evola is essentially Jay Dyer but even more of a schizo
Thanks for making me not have to read him now.
And to think that right-wing youth look up to this doofus.

>> No.17887109

>>17881910
>Thus, we must not delude ourselves before displays of initation and “magic.” Let them serve as the lines of the mountain range, as liminal points of reference — to clearly establish the distances — and not as the instruments of flattery and vanity. Let there be, together with these teachings, other teachings still borne ever in mind, whence holds the prohibition of the occult, the saying that “one cannot see God without dying of the sight,” and that he who “has been bitten by the serpent of the spiritual world” was thereafter painted as a damned man. If there exists a right to ask any higher truth beyond this, such a right is measured inexorably by the capacity for a transfiguring conversion, for detachment and an absolute overcoming. It is an aristocratic right. The only right that the mob cannot ever usurp, not today, nor in any other epoch of the world.

>> No.17887147

>>17881798
Here:
>>17881987

>> No.17887211

>>17881798
he looks so handsome in that pic

>> No.17887262

>>17885215
he looks like he has some nog dna in him (in nose and hair features). I bet he listens to nigger music, and says nigger things, has nigger friends. Definitely not aryan blonde bishounen /cm/.

>> No.17887276

>>17886142
This post is one of the most embarrassing things I've read in awhile lmao grow up

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>>17881987
holy based

>> No.17887475

I like reading him because he’s extremely interesting, the topics he covers are unique, and his anti modern viewpoint is jolting to me , having grown up in a modern capitalist society, and that fascinates me.

I don’t think everyone should read him, I think he appeals to men of action and men of contemplation but not shudras and ardent materialists. I would recommend pairing him with Guenon too, as Guenon provides a different perspective on Traditionalism and balances out Evola’s wildness.

>> No.17887543

>>17887276
Not him but you're only embarassed of yourself and your own insecurities

>> No.17887746

Alright, where to start with Evola? Revolt?

>> No.17887792

>>17887746
theory and phenomenology of the absolute individual

>> No.17888994

>>17881798
he's fun to read and makes faggots seethe
/thread

>> No.17889102

>>17881798
I've read part of Revolt..., but honestly he just seems to be a neoplatonist with some occultist background. Very surgical in his writing.

>> No.17889171

>>17889102
He's not really a monist. I see what you mean though. I've read a lot of him, and to me he occupies a weird position between Buddhism and some sort of monism. At the end of the day, he is simply opposed to overly-intellectual discussion of metaphysics, just like the Buddha was, so we cannot really pin down his leanings in this respect.

>> No.17889181

>>17887061
Filtered, retard

>> No.17889226

>>17887746
Pagan Imperialism is good if you want to test the waters (and you're OK with "edgy" writing styles).

>> No.17889280

Anyone here read The Occult War by Malynksi and de Poncins? Evola wrote the introduction to it and added a bunch of stuff throughout the book. About to read it myself.

>> No.17890308

>>17887276
This post oozes insecurity

>> No.17890482

>>17887746
Yes, Revolt. Also read some Guenon for context.

Don’t start with Ride the Tiger.

>> No.17890514

>>17887746
Orientations, Evola (short)
Handbook for Right Wing Youth, Evola
Crisis of the Modern World, Guenon

>> No.17890535

>>17887543
>>17890308
the biggest cope in life is thinking that you're somehow special or elevated for being something like an occultist. nobody actually cares because the truth is that you are probably as equally as moronic as the average person.

>> No.17890539

>>17881798
Sicilian master race

>> No.17890725

>>17890535

The biggest cope in life is thinking people are equal, when the simple truth is that some people are inferior and some are superior, in every context you can invent.

>> No.17892006

Evolascholars, how close are wicca larpers and shit to him? Who even does occultism anymore? Any real academics?