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>Descartes
>Spinoza
>Leibniz
>Locke
>Berkeley
>Hume

Who was the most based?

>> No.17867621

without having read any of them, I'd say Locke

>> No.17867662

None.

>> No.17867693

>>17867614
Leibniz. Locke destroyed the west

>> No.17867703

Locke was keyed but I'd probably pick Leibniz.

>> No.17867719

>>17867614
>Descartes
proven wrong in every way
>Spinoza
turbo jew autist who might have gotten everything right
>Leibniz
smartest dude to do it
>Locke
cringe
>Berkeley
idk
>Hume
mega mega mega based

>> No.17867721

>>17867693
so the US constitution is rubbish?

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>>17867719
>who might have gotten everything right

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>>17867721
>rubbish
Fuck off Anglo, our constitution is fine.
Your "constitution" and "supreme court" is a pretty funny joke tho.

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>>17867614
as if there is even a question:

In spring, 1775, I was struck with a disorder in my bowels, which at first gave me no alarm, but has since, as I apprehend it, become mortal and incurable. I now reckon upon a speedy dissolution. I have suffered very little pain from my disorder; and what is more strange have, notwithstanding the great decline of my person, never suffered a moment's abatement of my spirits, inasmuch that were I to name a period of my life which I should most choose to pass over again, I might be tempted to point to this later period. I possess the same ardour as ever in study, and the same gaiety in company. I consider, besides, that a man of sixty-five, by dying, cuts off only a few years of infirmities; and though I see many symptoms of my literary reputation's breaking out at last with additional lustre, I know that I could have but few years to enjoy it. It is difficult to be more detached from life than I am at present.

To conclude historically with my own character. I am, or rather was, (for that is the style I must now use in speaking of myself, which emboldens me the more to speak my sentiments)—I was, I say, a man of mild disposition, of command of temper, of an open, social, and cheerful humour, capable of attachment, but little susceptible of enmity, and of great moderation in all my passions. Even my love of literary fame, my ruling passion, never soured my temper, notwithstanding my frequent disappointments. My company was not unacceptable to the young and careless, as well as to the studious and literary; and as I took a particular pleasure in the company of modest women, I had no reason to be displeased with the reception I met with from them. In a word, though most men, anywise eminent, have found reason to complain of calumny, I never was touched, or even attacked by her baleful tooth; and though I wantonly exposed myself to the rage of both civil and religious factions, they seemed to be disarmed in my behalf of their wonted fury. My friends never had occasion to vindicate any one circumstance of my character and conduct: not but that the zealots, we may well suppose, would have been glad to invent and propagate any story to my disadvantage, but they could never find any which they thought would wear the face of probability. I cannot say there is no vanity in making this funeral oration of myself; but I hope it is not a misplaced one; and this is a matter of fact which is easily cleared and ascertained.

>> No.17867888

>>17867843
Fucking brits they all write the same way

>> No.17867891

Spinoza was based, I haven't read him or any of the other ones tho.

>> No.17867896
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>>17867804
Our constitution is trash because nobody has given a shit about it since the civil godddamn war

>> No.17867897

>>17867804
sorry anon, am eagle scout. "rubbish" is just something i picked up from the ineternet.

but the declaration of independence, and the constitution that antecedes it, are fundamentally lockeian. If "Locke ruined the west", and his political philosophy is the foundation of the American political system, then the american political system is founded on what ruined the west. If that's the case, then it seems like america should be abolished to "Save the west" (which makes sense, seeing as how the neo-nazis wanna destroy the US for an ethnostate)

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>>17867719
>proven wrong in every way
Just checked, analytic geometry still works.
>turbo jew autist who might have gotten everything right
You haven't read him ever, have you?
>smartest dude to do it
True
>cringe
>Noooooooooooo, this funking Anglo believes in righterinos!! Not Based!! Not Based at all!!
Fuck, when will Xi ChingChing invade my cunt and take away my rights!??!?? He's so based!11!!
>idk
Seriously, do you read at all?
>mega mega mega based
Pls tell me you read him and came to this conclusion based on your own reasoning and not /lit/ memes.

>> No.17867907

>>17867901
they sound like lit memers

>> No.17867909

>>17867614
>Guenon (pbuh) > Leibniz > Berkeley > Hume > Locke > Spinoza > Descartes

>> No.17867912

>>17867901
Cringe post desu

>> No.17867917

>>17867888
It's known as 'English', a language with which ESLs are actually unacquainted, though they may delude themselves otherwise as they squawk their pidgin.

>> No.17867922

>>17867917
Another cringe post. Cursed thread

>> No.17867924

>>17867614
I’ve read all except Hume, and Leibniz and Berkeley were my favourite. Liebniz’s system of pre-established harmony seemed very profound and I just finished Three Dialogues earlier today and it was very convincing.

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>>17867896
I know faggot, it's just hilarious how unenthusiastic you guys are about committing to either a constitutional, representative form of government or a monarchy, so both aspects of your government turn out to be a joke.
I blame this nigga (pic rel).
>>17867897
Oh I see, you were just asking a question; No, need to get all autistic on me though, I know Locke influenced the founders. You don't have to sperg out and start talking about ethnostates and shit, kek.

>> No.17868021

>>17867909
This pretty much (sans Guenon)

>> No.17868056

>>17867909
Guenon autist
>>17867912
Faggot
>>17867922
Faggot

>> No.17868126

>>17868008
I'm an american you fool!

>> No.17868127

>>17867888
Wasted eights

>> No.17868983

>>17867614
Spinoza and Hume are the most fun to read

>> No.17868996

>>17867888
yes, in a superior way

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>>17867614
In order of greatest to least:
>Hume
>Leibniz
>Berkeley
>Spinoza
>Descartes
>Locke
If you rank Spinoza highest you're a shitty pseud in love with all things monistic. Leibniz and Berkeley are INFINITELY more interesting because of how bold and creative they are rather than fitting in with an overdone trend that's been reinvented a million times in world history. And Hume is even bolder than them in some of his claims, while also being more perceptive. Descartes is below Spinoza because aside from his dualism he doesn't do a ton. Locke is last because he's just not particularly special, he differs from Descartes in ways that don't make him particularly cooler, unlike the other four.

>> No.17869193

>>17867614
Spinoza or Berkeley