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Possibly the pinnacle of prose in the entire history of literature. Chateaubriand's writing is unmatched. Any qualifier is dwarfed to describe the immense richness of these memories that overflow the genre, elevating it to unknown and never equaled heights.

It is incredible that the devious sectarianism of the factional communist packs that have dominated the media, the universities and the academia for more than a century have deprived us of knowing this peak of letters, and so many other authors censored or disregarded of the attention they deserve due to the fact of not agreeing with Marxist doctrines, a defect that future exegesis will take care to consider as a merit and not as a lack, since little of virtuous or true can distill an author immersed in error and the lie that they mark the ins and outs of the delusional Marxist creed.

Fortunately, the fall of the Berlin Wall broke down some prejudices of the “progressive” dogma - it seems like a bad joke to call it that - and allowed this grandiose work condemned by the prudish socialist intelligentsia to come out of the darkness to the eternal shame and reproach of the false intellectuals who have sidestepped or skirted them for more than a century since their arrogant and damaging university-media monopoly.

Long live the spirit of the viscount who fought the Jacobin terror by putting his life at risk, unlike his bastard literary descendants, pathetic letter-makers who, had they been contemporaries, would have been signing death sentences and imprisonment with Jacobin “philosophers”, among them, those of the parents, brothers and relatives of our author, who unlike his unfortunate relatives, executed like vermin, was thankfully able to leave France in time to save his life.

>> No.17859702

https://voca.ro/1fAIYoMm43Fk

>> No.17859714

>>17859629
I liked his other story about the guy who's suffered all his life just because he wanted to fuck his sister.

>> No.17860113

>>17859629
well post some of the prose if it's so great

>> No.17860173

you read it in english didn’t you

>> No.17860245
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Wait until you learn about Bossuet anon, the guy was a bishop so nobody wants to read him but his prose is incredibly good.

>> No.17860282

>>17860173
all that came to my mind when reading OP

>> No.17860528

>>17860173
Italian :D

>> No.17860648

Anyone read René or Atala? Thoughts?

>> No.17860666

>>17860648
I read René a while back and it's beautifully written but also sentimentally gushy. I can see why Chateaubriand wished he had never written since it created a new generation of emos, i.e. the Romantics. Despite that, still one of the best novellas ever written.

>> No.17861043

>>17860245
will check him out, thanks.

>> No.17861132

>>17859629
Read Proust

>> No.17861134

>>17861132
Sell me on it

>> No.17861154

>>17861134
Not only is his prose top tier, but his masterpiece also touches upon many topics and has such insight into the human condition that hardly anyone compares, if anyone. I think some people are turned off by him being gay, but that doesn't matter. Homosexuality is one of the themes in his work, but it's amazing in how much of a neutral way it's analyzed. I recall seeing some lgbt people criticizing his works because they aren't celebrating gay stuff. If anything, his homosexual characters have some pretty major flaws and he doesn't really paint a nice image of them. While we're on the topic of characters, those in ISOLT are the most complex and three-dimensional ones I've ever read.

>> No.17861321

>>17861154
sounds based. Will definitely check it out.

>> No.17861336

>>17861321
You won't regret it. ISOLT is pretty big, but it's absolutely a worthwhile read. Sadly, I think literature will be somewhat ruined for you since rarely anything comes close, or at least such was the case for me.

>> No.17861365

>>17861154
>While we're on the topic of characters, those in ISOLT are the most complex and three-dimensional ones I've ever read.
I enjoyed that from Proust, how no one is wholly good or evil. For example the maid Françoise can be an absolute cunt, like when she would put asparagus into soups because she knew another maid was allergic to them and loved to see her break out in hives, or a loving angel, like when she was helping Marcel get over x's death.

>> No.17861386

>>17861154
should it be read in French?

>> No.17861400

>>17861365
>how no one is wholly good or evil
Yeah, Proust really makes realistic characters. Shitty people exist in real life, but rarely are they cartoonishly bad, to the point that you can distil them to one bad epithet. Your example of Françoise is excellent. What are your thoughts on Duc de Guermantes? I'd say he cares for his wife even if he dislikes some of her characteristics and also cheats on her.

>> No.17861629

>>17861400
>Duc de Guermantes
I don't remember much about him desu. Wasn't he the pseud who relied on Swann for selecting paintings to buy so that he could dazzle his guests with his "eclectic" taste?
As a general view on his cheating, that was normal in the aristocracy in which marriages were made out of strategic purposes, not for love. Both the man and the woman were, for the most part, free to sleep around but required to keep it discrete. A bit degenerate in my view but not uncommon for their social circle.

>> No.17861632

>>17861629
Yeah, that's the one. He was a pretty interesting character in my opinion.

>> No.17861653

>>17861632
>He was a pretty interesting character in my opinion.
How so?
One of my favorite characters was Bloch, the physical manifestation of Start with the Greeks meme.

>> No.17861666

>>17861653
I liked his conversations, even if he was a pseud, and him assisting his wife in the discussions (by setting up a punchline for her joke on purpose or asking her on purpose certain stuff so that she can tell a story that she wants to) was always entertaining to see. Bloch was too pretentious for my liking.

>> No.17861766

>>17861666
Ah, that certainly puts him in a kind light. I should find the time to revisit the books (granted I haven't even finished them. I stopped right in the middle of Albertine disparue).
>Bloch was too pretentious
kek that's the best part. I was howling when he was first introduced and said that the most beautiful verses are those which have a nice rhythm and mean nothing, like Racine's <<La fille de Minos et de Pasiphaé>>

>> No.17861796

>>17861766
The stuff I was referring to occurs in volumes 3 and 4, though.
>kek that's the best part.
I guess. It is interesting to watch him, but I can't say that he's one of my favorite characters.

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>> No.17862855

>>17861386
no one should spend time reading 4000 pages of translated works, no matter the skill of the translator, so yes.

>> No.17862928

>>17859629
>translation
>pinnacle of prose

haha

>> No.17862930

>>17862855
What makes you an authority on reading translations.

Do you read The Bible in translation?
How about the Greeks?
How about 1001 Nights?

Stop being a pseud

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>>17859629
>Possibly the pinnacle of prose in the entire history of literature
How can you say that if you read a translation, retard?

>> No.17863417

>>17859629
after reading all of d'outre tombe you have to wonder if chateaubriand was an idiot

>> No.17863424

>>17859702
based retard

>> No.17864007

>>17863125
It's a fucking prose dumbass. If you think that some innate quality is inevitably lost in the translation it just indicates you've never actually read a book in another language and compared it with a translation. If you did you would notice that unless the text is deeply poetic or relies on puns which is rarely the case the translation gives a nearly identical experience to the original. Stop being a pseud. Language is just a medium.

>> No.17864774

>>17860245
Hands down the greatest writer in French and in pole position for world literature.
The History of Variations of Protestant Churches is endgame territory.

>> No.17864840

>>17859629
Did you miss the weekly meeting of /lit/'s club for cathoschizoids or something?

>> No.17865495

>>17864840
The entire board is like that. Go back to your gaytheist clubhouse like reddit.

>> No.17865517

>>17859629
Why does most right wing theory hail from France?
>Chateaubriand
>de Maistre
>Bossuet
>de Benoist
>Bloy
>Maurras
>Sorel
>Guenon
What is it about France that makes their right wingers this much smarter than their Anglo counterparts?

>> No.17865528

>>17865517
The French invented the right-wing, basically.

>> No.17865559

>>17865517
>What is it about France that makes their right wingers this much smarter than their Anglo counterparts?
A long history of centralised power which makes both sides very vindicative. Funny you put Bloy into this list, he's obviously right-wing but I wouldn't call him a theorist. Read Peguy and Bernanos if you haven't.

>> No.17865771

>>17864774
Thanks anon, your post is like a diamond in a sea of shit.

>> No.17865800

>>17865517
It's a reaction to how crazy left-wing France got with the Revolution. Plus the political vision of Catholicism (before Vatican 2) is the furthest thing on the right you can find (it's not the most extreme though, just the farthest from the left).

>> No.17866105

>>17864007
>If you think that some innate quality is inevitably lost in the translation
>he doesn't know
Cope for being too stupid to learn French.

>> No.17866128

>>17859702
kek what the fuck

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>>17860648
I only read those two. They're beautiful, really, very dense with some of the most lyrical prose I've read, but honestly not much happens. And that which does happen is not very interesting, or that good, honestly. Even the themes are kinda bland.

>> No.17866418

>>17866173
Creepy

>> No.17867859

saving this thread from the tomb