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depends on how it's done

everything does

but i think playing with narrative is interesting

I would feel like there was an omniscient narrator, and first person narration.

THIS IS IMPORTANT INFORMATION FOR ME TO KNOW BECAUSE I AM PLANNING TO WRITE A STORY IN THIS STYLE IF THE RESPONSES ARE POSITIVE TOWARDS IT.

>>1784064

AND THAT BOTHERS YOU OR PLEASES YOU OR DO YOU REMAIN INDIFFERENT?

>>1784076
What style, man? The style where a disembodied narration gives way to character driven narration? I'm not sure that is something you need to test the waters on.
>OP was sitting at the computer, looking for a way to put off writing.

>How will I ever take on this novel? I should probably fap and rub my ass on the carpet.

>>1784094

THAT POSTER IS NOT ME.

BUT WHY NOT DRASTICALLY CHANGE THE NARRATIVE PERSPECTIVE? OR ARE YOU TROLLING?

>>1784114
Wha?

In general, switches between the third person and the first person need to be fairly clear and serve a purpose. If you want to be all avant-garde and just go all crazy with it there's nothing stopping you, but just be aware you're playing with fire.

The real KOZ's tripcode starts with KOZ.
I don't know who this guy is.

>>1784149

IF YOU WERE ME, YOU WOULD NOT SPEAK OF "YOURSELF" IN THIRD PERSON WHEN TRYING TO CONVINCE OTHERS THAT YOU ARE THE ONE BEING IMPERSONATED.

>>1784157
In other words, your name means SPAWN OF SATAN, isn't that right KOZ?

>>1784191

THE NAME CURRENTLY IN MY NAMEFIELD CAN BE TRANSLATED TO THAT BUT "KOZ" DOES NOT MEAN THAT.

>>1784205
Indeed.
KOZ means KING OF ZION.
Two religious references?
I THINK YES!

>>1784213

NO.

>be writing a short story at the moment
>have a similair narrative shift
>from third person external narrator, talking about this guy's actions
>turns out the narrator is a character watching him the first one

>>1784247

BUT AN ACTUAL PERSON WATCHING HIM OR A NONHUMAN INVISIBLE ENTITY? BECAUSE MY THIRD PERSON NARRATION INCLUDES DETAILS THAT AN OVERLOOKER COULD NOT KNOW EXCEPT FOR THE PERSON EXPERIENCING THE SITUATION.

>>1784251
play the change of pov so that everything comes down to suppositions, instinct, and bl reading from the 3rd person?
>inb4 thou cans't do that

I love how Madame Bovary does it, starting with an annonymous first person p.o.v. then the rest of the book all 3rd p. Henry James also drops in an I in weird places.

Just use Joycean third(first) person.

>>1784274

PRESENT TENSE FIRST PERSON?

LIKE

"I CHEW THE MEAT SLOWLY AS I NOD"?

>>1784286
Past tense personal third person
He chewed the meat slowly as he nodded.

although that particular sentence is pretty much just third person, when you start to write about things like feelings and thoughts it becomes a hybrid third/first person, or if you write as you said, about "DETAILS THAT AN OVERLOOKER COULD NOT KNOW EXCEPT FOR THE PERSON EXPERIENCING THE SITUATION"

If you haven't read a portrait of the artist as a young man i suggest you do so.

>>1784293

OH YES, I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN. I HAVE READ "A PORTRAIT OF THE ARTIST AS A YOUNG MAN" BUT I WAS NOT SURE THAT YOU MEANT THAT PARTICULAR STYLE OF JAMES JOYCE'S PROSE.

I WILL CONSIDER IT.

The question is do you want to sell it and do you have cred? If you are published do what you want. If not do not stray from the normal convention. For me this temptation comes in wjen the character thinks. In the sense that only if I think a thing do I know it. Don't give a publisher a reason to reject. Their knee-jerk reaction will be that you are a rookie. They won't delve to see if there is more to it.

>>1784286
>>1784293
>doesn't differentiate between simple, imperfect...

>>1784304

Read Dubliners.

>>1784612
I prefer Ulysses.

>>1784615

Dubliners was better for me. I think that I just like the short story form more. Not to say that I didn't like Ulysses or Portrait, but Dubliners had everything I liked and more.

I briefly thought about playing with this recently. I figured I could construct an entire narrative in third-person limited, relying on external descriptions of characters and their actions to convey thoughts and emotions, and then drop in an occasional "I" or "me" to signify that the narrator was actually there. The narrator would be relating the story to the reader the way someone would tell a story in person.

It seems a bit gimmicky, though.

The first bit of criticism I ever received on one of my pieces was that I started in a third person narrative and then switched to first person. In my defense, it was a school assignment and I wrote it the night before it was due.

I DECIDED TO DO IT HOW I WANT AND/OR HOW I FEEL TO WRITE IT AT THE MOMENT WITHOUT CARING WHAT SOMEONE ELSE MIGHT FEEL OR THINK ABOUT IT. HEH. THANK YOU.