/lit/ - Literature

>>17817441

This is funny because Mishima criticized Dazai who was 6 feet tall. I wonder how that conversation went. Him having to look up to match Dazai's eyes, saying in a pleading voice "I don't like your writing!"

>>17817478
Dazai looks like a sad granny.

>>17817441
Socrates
Buddha
Lao Tzu
Nagarjuna
Bodhidharma
Huang Po
Hui Neng
Meister Eckhart
Spinoza
Kierkegaard
Nietzsche
Weininger
Kevin Solway

>>17817516
cope he was a proper male height and a chad

>>17817441

>>17817555
He looks like a depressed grandmother, bro. I don't know what to tell you.

>>17817441
Read that as manletiest

>>17817441
>mishima with a handgun in a leather jacket
AWOOGA. THIS EXIST???

>>17817569
Males are usually depressed. Are you trying to equate it with being unmanly, whatever that means?

>>17817441
>>17817643
It checks out

>>17817659
>23% of women in their 40s and 50s take antidepressants, a higher percentage than any other group (by age or sex)
>Women are 2½ times more likely to be taking an antidepressant than men (click here to read a May 2011 article in the Harvard Mental Health Letter about women and depression)
Suck it.

>>17817671
Now what’s the suicide rate?

>>17817679
if women weren't so weak they'd kill themselves more than men. Female weakness cancels out suicide despite them being depressed.

>>17817454
is that the fucking myspace creator

>>17817696
>Ih- bu- it takes courage to hide from your pain!
Goal post moving. I’m not even trying to pick any depressed people. Just defending Dazai for being moody. Why you vampires gotta kick at each other when you see people down? Enough with the dick waving contests.

>>17817696
As much as I hate to say it butters is right, women seek therapy and get prescribed more, but in terms of actual severe depression leading to suicide men are like twice as depressed as women

>>17817648
ye it's from a ganster movie he did. a lot of the scenes are on yt.

>>17817441
>that lack of trigger dishiprine

>>17817836
can somebody explain "trigger discipline" to me if you intend on shooting the gun you need to put your finger on the trigger

>>17818570
You don't put your finger on the trigger when you're chambering a round and the gun is not pointing at a target

>>17817836
>implying trigger discipline even existed as a concept back then

>>17817441
i read manlet writers and philosophers lmao

>>17817478
Dazai was a commie, a man of poor character, and he killed several women indirectly by trying to make a suicide pact with them and then pussying out in the last minute. Also, did I mention he was a commie?

>>17818641
Sounds unbelievably based

>>17817569
you are projecting hardcore, manlet

>>17818641
Dazai wasn't that much of a commie. In his writing he kinda says that the he disliked the people in the communist party he was in. If anything he was an lost anarchist.

>>17818641
>hasn't read dazai
in no longer human he briefly mentions that he was dragged into the partid and stayed because he enjoyed playing a role
he was not believe a word of what he was saying

>>17818588
that is literally common sense.

>>17817441
He gay tho.

>>17817478
>Basing Masculinity on height
NGMI

>>17818715
I don't believe any commie who has been in the party for couple years, or is over 30, believes a single word they are saying deep down.

Get your Japanese drama queens out of this thread.

>>17817679

Srsly though butters is being sympathetic. It's sweet considering how mush shit we give her.

>>17819064
>t. american

>>17818641
I can’t stand it when people only view the world through a political lens...

>>17819208
t.

>>17817441
mishima was addicted to big white cock

>>17818641
>Suicidal lefty bad
>posts suicidal rightoid


>>17819064
The statists create a faith out of it. What do you think the people in the Chinese Communist Party believe? That they’re failing?

>>17817441
Wasn't Mishima a homo?
How can he be considered manly?

>>17819846
Homo are obsessed with appearing mainly because they know they'll never be able to commit to the only truly manly act: making and raising children. All that shit about the male body being being like a statue or such non-sense is a homo cope for understand they'll never be able to create something meaningful. Luckily a few homos, like Proust, decided to go the other way and to give something to eternity. These are the good fag, the /fit/ fags are just over-socialised dudes lost in the simulacra.

>>17819846
It isn’t. /lit/ just equates your typical faggy “macho” compensation with manliness. You will never see an actually straight man do these cringy theatrics.
A truly manly writer would be someone like Junger.

>>17819879
mishima had children

>>17819879
Mishima had three children who were supported by his estate after he died.

>>17819932
>You will never see an actually straight man do these cringy theatrics.
kek
How delusional one can be.

>>17819879
>>17819932
t. homosexual projecting out of his well worn asshole

>>17819971
What became of his kids? Did any of them become writers or anything?

>>17819971
>>17819943
>mishima had children
He killed himself like a little drama queen, you maybe missed the part were I talked about raising the children. Jünger, Char are manly, they lived in the world not in the deny of reality.

>>17820020
Jünger literally wrote a novel about fleeing from the landscape of reality you /pol/ pseud.

What was so manly about Jünger anyway? The guy wrote decent, not great novels and only did so as a matter of consequence. He said himself he would rather just write pretty poems than serve the order of his time. He was literally a dandy that wrote poetry. Whatever hint of “manliness” you’re detecting is just another westerner being drawn to grand world-narratives, politics, and “attending to thine neighbor’s business before thine own” and nothing else.

>>17817543
>Nietzsche
Nietzsche was a cuck.

>>17820030
I'm not from /pol/ and I don't care about politics. Jünger (and Char and many others such as Apollinaire) tried to understood being and the principle of action for what it is rather than playing the theatrical of it, something very much apparent in Jünger's diary for instance.
>He said himself he would rather just write pretty poems than serve the order of his time.
And he was right.

>>17820020
>they lived in the world not in the deny of reality
Based anon who understands the core of homosexuality is denial of reality. Homosexuality is a form of narcissistic delusion, hence why all homos like Mishima are narcissists.

Pathetic.

>>17820085
This is exactly why Proust is a great homosexual. His whole work is about the escape from this narcissism to find the world again. Hence why other homos of the times, like Gide, were highly critical of him.

>>17818675
I'm his same height. Dude was no chad. Tall=/=chad.

>>17819846
There are manly homosexuals, yes. Caravaggio comes to mind as well.

>>17820114
A homosexual cannot be manly. “Macho” yes, but manly no. Homosexuality is the internalized belief that “I’m not man enough. Maybe if I have sex with a man I will be impregnated with his masculinity” which is of course a narcissistic delusion because you can’t integrate a masculine self by having sex with men. You were supposed to develop your masculine identity by bonding with your father (or father figure) in childhood. The homosexual lacks this, and in his delusion attempts to fill that void through sex with men.

>>17820169
I don't know. The dictionary says manly means having qualities associated with men like bravery and viritily and Caravaggio fits the bill.

>>17820193
>Caravaggio fits the bill.
How so?

I don't read women, homosexuals and suicidals.

>>17820235
you're missing out on many of the GOATs

>>17819724
Blond "men" are feminine, not manly.

>>17817441
But he was overcompensating because he was gay.

>>17820323
You can be manly and homosexual. Being a fag doesn't mean you're a flamboyant queen.

>>17820354
When I think “manly” I think of someone like Cato the Elder, not fucking Mishima.

>>17820098
Does he justify why finding the real is a good thing in and of itself? I could find plenty to justify retreat from the real from a manly perspective even. Someone mentioned Jünger ffs.

>>17820530
Cut Junger a little slack. Can you imagine being a German patriot a live to see your beloved nation marched over by the band of murdering rapists known as the Red Army?
I’d have to cope too.

>>17820583
I’m not criticizing his thinking. I’m just pointing out the hypocrisy in saying that he was manly because he didn’t run from the world or something meanwhile he wrote several novels about doing exactly that, albeit in a manner a bit more nuanced than that but still. It’s just that these pseudo-political takes on here get obnoxious after a while.

>>17820743
Moving to the country is far from "running away from the world." The country IS the world.

>>17818774
Confirmed little man

Now scurry off and be a good boy okay?

>>17819879
>never make something meaningful
Bro here you are half a century later talking about him on an imageboard which is something people won’t do with your retarded ass kids. Your children will be born retarded I’m putting the curse on you sorry little man.

>>17821053
Confirmed overcompensator.

>>17817477
wheelchair faggot

>>17817543
Seems about right.

>>17817943
Yes!

And while all the others may be up for debate, Marcus here is indisputably one of the manliest writers and philosophers of them all. (Shame on you that only now, this late, I'm the one who had to post him.)

>>17820801
It has nothing to do with moving to the country. Have you even read his books? The guy spent multiple novels developing a form of a character who “takes stock of the landscape and decides to retreat”.

>>17817454
IS THAT FUCKING NOTCH?

If so......... based

>>17821440
fiction=/=reality
it's like claiming Bret Easton Ellis is a serial killer

>>17820235
I don't think I would bother with anything even remotely life affirming.

>>17821563
Please just actually read the books.

>>17821733
Novels don't necessarily reflect a writer's views. Do you think Nabby is a pedo and a murderer?

>>17821744
Murderer no but pedo yes.

Get that lampshade off your head and look at yourself you're sweating like a pig

>>17817477
IS THIS THE GUY WHO WRITES IN CAPS?

>>17817569
god Woolf was such a cutie

>>17821803
kek

>>17820297
Niggers don't get to speak.

>>17822063
Transition already, blondie. You're 99% a woman.

>>17822063
princesses should not use such bad words sweetie

No Hemingway?

You trannies are lost. There is no hope, join the 41%

>>17817478
Mish would run rings around that faggot.

>>17819807
I am repulsed -- nay, OFFENDED, that you would think yourself worthy of replying to me. Don't you understand that suicide is not the problem here, butterfag? What was detestable was that Dazai didn't follow through on his plan and let a woman die in vain. A lover's suicide pact is the most beautiful thing in the world and you disgrace it by betraying your lover by pussying out. That shows a weakness, betrayal, and cowardice of the highest order. And yes, I read his tale of hurt fee-fees. No Longer Human should've been renamed No Longer A Man. Rest in peepeepoopoo commie Dazai

Roald Dahl.

>>17819879
>only truly manly act: making and raising children