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>>17808372
> Traditional Catholicism has lit af aesthetics, way better than my parents boring old Protestant church
Nice LARP, obvious bait thread. You made it even more obvious by implying that you want to attend seminary

>>17808372
Bait but you should read those books, anon. Maybe then you'll stop being a baiter and begin behaving like a proper person.

>>17808372
>Catholicism has lit af aesthetics, way better than my parents boring old Protestant church.
I'm traditional catholic. Please stop acting this way.

Do you have Augustine's Confessions? Maybe get some books on the Church Fathers.

Manual for Conquering Deadly Sin
Manual for Spiritual Warfare
Manual for Marian Devotion

>>17808372
Outed yourself as a BASED larper. Approach faith with sincerity, not because it looks cool

>>17808372

>>17808372
>lit af aesthetics
stop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJUHFakKYNs

>>17808372
>Aquinas' Summa Theologica
Yeah, I am sure you have 15 or something fucking books.

>>17808372
Recent acquisitions I would recommend:
>Praying with the Heart, Jean Khoury
>Knowing the Love of God, Fr. Reginald Garrigou-Lagrange OP
>Mary and the Art of Prayer, Rachel Fulton Brown

Catholics, do you really like the idea that the Pope can speak for the whole Church?

Please stop LARPing in such a way, OP.
>>17810960
Yes, because a strong sense of leadership and command is what made Catholicism survive through the eras in the foundation that Our Lord left on Earth in Peter.
Even if the Pope is a corrupt man, he still is the rightful successor to Saint Peter by all meaning of the word and deserves our fidelity.

>>17810960
Yes.

>"I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."

>>17810960
I don't like it but I can tolerate it.

>>17808374
>>17808399
>>17808538
>>17810452
why bait?

>>17808372
Larp

>>17808372
city of god

>>17811806
There's nothing the pope can change on most of the issues we fear today anyways. Abortion, gay marriage, women priests, the very ideology of liberalism, sins against nature, religious indifferentism, all have been infallibly settled by the magisterium before Francis. He can't change anything.

Third and Fourth Lateran councils: Sins against nature
Casti connubii Pius XI: contraception
Pius IX Qunata Cura: Classical Liberalism and Religious indifferentism
John Paul II: women ordination

>>17811877
Keep telling yourself that. The only thing that holds the pope back from changes in those areas is the fact that the majority of his faithful followers and the only fast growing section are Africans, and Africans hate gays and contraception like the plague. If Africa ever gets cucked, the enlightened white Europeans will their wish and we will have legal contraception and sodomy.

>>17811943
These teachings have already been codified by the magisterium and the Church infallibly. It is impossible to reform these teachings as they are binding. In principle, the Pope has no authority to overturn any of them.

>>17810960
Ehhhhhhh, I'm born into it so it is kind of a Moot Point.

I think Protestantism showed the dangers of over-centralization and a more Orthodox decentralized faith probably has some advantages - but it is all a moot point, my opinion will never be relevant and I am merely an observer to whatever the faith does.

As someone raised as a Christmas and Easter Anglican, I have very little understanding of why someone would actively participate in organized religion except just for an easy community to become apart of.

I understand the philosophical allure of theology (particularly for people on this board) and I appreciate that organized religion provides a framework for exploring it. But that interest isn't nearly enough for me to want to "go to church" every week to hear sermons about life metaphors from barely preserved antiquity. Honestly, I think it's a waste of my valuable time, what are you supposed to gain from going to church?

I don't feel the need to be "a part of something greater" because I have meaningful connections with people in my life that I built with my own two hands, not because I show up eat some bread, sip some wine, and put $10 in the pot. The money is practical too, I get that. I'm just honestly trying to see what I'm missing here.

Is it meant to be a system for teaching the masses about "being a good person"? I think that's great, but I'm just doubtful I'll actually find any value in it.

imagine unironically being a catholic lmao

>>17812049
I guess it loses some of its luster when you don't believe any of it whatsoever and see it as a purely secular experience

>>17812049
>What do I gain from church
>show up eat some bread, sip some wine, and put $10 in the pot.
this is such a sad testimony to the state of affairs, anon you don’t even realize.

>>17812049
You are meant to go to church because you actually believe in the core tenants of the faith. That is, you believe that Christ died and resurrected. For the Catholic, mass is supposed to be in memory of this sacrifice to honor Him. This is the fundamental different between Catholic and Protestant worship. Catholics do not go to mass to get something out of it nor do we solely go based on things we can learn. Instead, we go to mass to worship God and his sacrifice for us and for which he is present with us in the Eucharist.

>At Mass we are in the company of our Lord, with Whom we associate ourselves in order to live like Him by living of Him, in order to die as He died and rise again with Him.

>>17812127
Pope Saint Pius X
>The Holy Mass is a prayer itself, even the highest prayer that exists. It is the Sacrifice, dedicated by our Redeemer at the Cross, and repeated every day on the Altar. If you wish to hear Mass as it should be heard, you must follow with the eye, heart and mouth all that happens at the Altar. Further you must pray with the Priest the holy words said by him in the Name of Christ and which Christ says by him. You have to associate your heart with the holy feelings which are contained in these words and in this manner you ought to follow all that happens at the Altar. When acting in this way you have prayed Holy Mass.

>>17812049
>because I have meaningful connections with people in my life that I built with my own two hands
>I built with my own two hands
Everything you achieved in life is by Lord's grace, you are quite obviously blinded by by the deadly sin of Pride.

>>17808372
Pic related is what you need. You should study it very carefully by taking note of each thesis and reflecting on the arguments given in the expositions. Also, if you are able to read Italian, get the 22 volume history of the church called "Storia della Chiesa" edited by Lefton, Mezzadri, Aubert, et al. Alternatively, you could get the Storia della Teologia in four volumes. The first volume on the patristics is superb, as it was made by the Augustinian Institute in Rome. You can find all of the volumes of the Sacræ Theologiæ Summa on here: https://www.traditionalcatholic.co/free-catholic-books-ii/

>>17812227
I forgot to post the pic

>>17812127
>you believe that Christ died and resurrected
This is exactly what I'm struggling with. Right now I don't believe that. I believe in the idea of a God, but I don't understand the story of Jesus as anything other than that, a story. I don't see how he of all people had the one true "recipe" for getting to the afterlife. That's what you're talking about isn't it? Providing some hope to hopeless people that there is something more? It just seems like such a depressing motivator for people. How can that be the one true story out of countless others? Why do you believe?
>>17812211
This rests solely on the basis that what you believe is true. Why should I believe? The point of statements like that is to shame people, and I don't want to be a part of that.

>>17812049
loss of religious communities (and communities in general) in america have led to some in the younger generations seeking the ghost of that experience under the guise of tradcath LARPing (see: fuentes and groypers). it's probably mostly in earnest, but the thin veneer of internet irony culture makes it come off as something other than the longing for connection that it is. not saying the gradual dissolution of religious institutions and their grip on america isn't a good thing, but it is indicative of a larger trend of antisocial behaviour, and the replacement of town communities with internet ones is probably not a good thing.

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