/lit/ - Literature

>>17782675
how do you read sounds

>>17782743
>he doesn't know words are sounds

>>17782754
Notes, is what he’s referring to

>>17782805
You can learn to read scores.

>>17782675
He’s so ugly

>>17782743
>essays
>short storys
>lectures
>books
>poems
Plenty of words to read by Wagner.

Unironically watched the Ring Cycle for the first timw this week. I'm getting into opera

>>17783013
Liar

>>17782899
>old men aren't hot
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>>17783564
He literally wrote in all of those forms.

>>17783593
Prove it then!

>>17782675
>People are reading Wagner.
pretty sure you can't read songs anon.

>>17783658
Well, anon, what if I told you that I read the subtitles of the Flying Dutchman. Not just once either, I make a concerted effort to sit and read/watch/listen to "Der Fliende Hollander," a few times a year. By forcing so many of the senses to work, i am exhausted by the end of the endeavor and feel nothing but euphoria in knowing how much more cultured I am than everyone in my life.

>>17783617
So many [important] essays it's redundant to give an example, A Pilgrimage to Beethoven is the first in a trilogy of beloved short storys, his books include Opera and Drama, he gave an influential lecture on Western art called The Destiny of Opera, and all of his so-called "libretti" are masterful poems.

>>17783722
Youre just making things up, and it's quite axiomatic that you are.

>>17783738
What am I making up?

>>17783791
Those names. They're clearly fabrications. Come now you don't really thinking I'm to blindly believe you?

>>17783802
Have you tried searching them up?

>>17783811
On what? My insta-Wagner-Q&A machine? Come now, you certainly must be joking. Wagner is long dead, my friend.

>>17783848
Google.

>>17783858
Seriously? Do you use Google to consult which way to wipe your brainless dirty asshole?

>>17783889
Why are you being so mean?

>>17783915
Because im really bothered by this baseless assertion of yours that XYZ exist, as though your word alone suffices. And when pressed for a good reason as to why it does, you defer to a LITERAL algorithmic authority which has no capacity for the sort or Reason we use to derive truth from. I really really really like Wagner. And am endlessly fascinated by his influence on Nietzsche's early works. To read Wagner himself would be a bountiful FEAST for me! And here you are, all pomp and brash, dangling the keys to this euphoria before may face and making mere allusions as to which Lock it opens! How cruel... like a succulent women with a boisterous endowment exposing her qualities and then laughing at he who wants to convene congress with them.

Where do I start with Wagner?

>>17783954
http://users.belgacom.net/wagnerlibrary/prose/wagpilg.htm
http://users.belgacom.net/wagnerlibrary/prose/wlpr0063.htm
http://users.belgacom.net/wagnerlibrary/prose/wagdest.htm

>>17783986
>posting websites
People like you kill this board. You don't read anything.

>>17783997
What do you want me to do to prove that Wagner wrote these works?

>>17784019
Show me whatever convinced you he did, of course. Short of the man himself, such things are quite difficult.

>>17784019
Stop taking the bait!

Cosima diary entry for 04/25/78:
>At noon arrival of a new book [Human, All Too Human] by friend Nietzsche—feelings of apprehension after a short glance through it; R. feels he would be doing the author a favor, for which the latter would one day thank him, if he did not read it. It seems to me to contain much inner rage and sullenness, and R. laughs heartily when I say that Voltaire, here so acclaimed [Nietzsche dedicated Human, All Too Human to Voltaire], would less than any other man have understood The Birth of Tragedy.

For 05/28/78:
>R. wanted to amuse himself by sending Prof. Nietzsche a telegram of congratulations on Voltaire's birthday, but I advise him against it and recommend silence here, as in many other things.

>>17784141
Okay.

>>17783580
Debunked. Not Wagner.

>>17782675
"People"
fixed that for you.

>>17786086
Prove it.

>>17786520
I have eyeballs and a functioning brain

>>17786537
Science disproves you.

>>17782675
Wagner is one of the most useless beings in the whole history of culture

>>17787327
Imagine believing this.

>>17787403
Imagine believing >muh passion, galloping valkyries and German identitarianism are things with inherent value.

>>17787417
Imagine believing ">muh passion, galloping valkyries and German identitarianism are things with inherent value." is all Wagner is.

>>17787422
It's not, but once you have seen those three you have already cringed so much that you won't be interested in knowing more.

>Wagner is one of the most useless beings in the whole history of culture
>Imagine believing >muh passion, galloping valkyries and German identitarianism are things with inherent value.
>It's not, but once you have seen those three you have already cringed so much that you won't be interested in knowing more.

>>17782675

>My favorite author? Wagner, naturally
>My favorite composer? Why, Nietzsche of course

>>17787450
Wagner's musical achievements are enough to make him one of the MOST useful beings in the history of Western culture, but his dramatic and philosophical importance will obviously go over your head as well.

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