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>Whataboutism
Is it just me or is this the most retarded argument? Doesn't even jesus teach people not to use this shit with the "log in your eye speck in my eye" sermon?

>> No.17784673

>>17784655
>Is it just me or is this the most retarded argument?
pointing them out or making them?

>> No.17784685

>>17784655

Tyler Cowen calls labeled it a logical fallacy, aka mood affiliation. It's the most retarded argument you'll usually encounter IRL. OL most retarded is "that's not an argument" as a response to something that was clearly an insult and not meant to be an argument. Runner up is...?

>> No.17784697

Whataboutism is a way to deflect criticism but complaining about whataboutism is also a form of deflecting criticism.

>> No.17784710

>>17784673
When one feels the need to critisise somebody for doing shit they are doing themselves, maybe they shouldn't be an authority on that matter.

>> No.17784715

Everytime someone says "what about" I just ask them why that makes their point justifiable and try to move on. If they keep persisting just drop it, you can't fix stupid.

>> No.17784723

Pointing out fallacies is a fallacy on its own anyway

>> No.17784741

>>17784723
pointing out a fallacy isn't a fallacy, saying your opponent's claim is false because he gave fallacious proof is a fallacy
(not that any of these fedora rules matter anyway)

>> No.17784773

I don't get it either, drawing parallels between the thing your opponent is attacking and something else that they support is a viable way of exposing hypocrisy in their argument and forcing them to either give up something they like, admit that they're overly critical, or define a more precise structure for when the shared negative is acceptable.

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>>17784773
>why yes, I do throw out the baby with the bathwater

>> No.17784815

>>17784803
If you can't justify why I should consider the thing you support to be equivalent to the baby, you're not competently explaining your cost analysis

>> No.17784828

>>17784655
No I don't think so. Unless you're a fedora debate guy. Ignore it if you just like the back and forth of arguing something. You'll inevitably find hypocrisy in everything so I never use it... it's just boring

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>>17784655
>Posts the most retarded images ever.

>> No.17784925

>>17784864
>filename
Go. Back.

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>>17784925

>> No.17784944

>>17784655
>Doesn't Jesus say
Do the opposite of what Jews say

>> No.17784947

>>17784933
Dilate.