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>> No.17773311

It pays to be as honest as possible with yourself, and to present yourself as honestly as possible to others, be it through words, be it through gestures. If you find yourself boring, then you need to change your life.

If you want to find your own writing style, you should pay attention to how you speak and how you think. What I thought were weaknesses were really my idiosyncrasies - when I tried to "cure" myself, I only made my condition worse. Now I'm cultivating my idiosyncrasies for the better.

Depending on what type of person you are, you should not focus on things too sharply, but maintain a certain "impressionistic fuzziness" (Debussy, Turner, Kawabata). At least for me, the world becomes worth living, or to put it differently: interesting, only when I am in a slight daze.

Something bearing fruit, even though it stands on shaky ground, is better than having no fruit at all. As long as you don't try to persuade anyone of your worldview, you can be as illogical as you like.

>> No.17773324

Materialism cannot explain experience, that's just a fact. There is no physiological explanation for consciousness. A bunch of nerve cells exchange electricity in a circuit; how do "you" enter in? Soul theory stays winning, atheists perplexed.

>> No.17773325

I HATE GRADING

>> No.17773328

Every time I'm finishing some bullshit task and almost get back to my real work I actually care about, some new bullshit task comes up that manages to wipe out a whole week. It's really starting to fuck with me. How do I break the cycle?

>> No.17773332

>>17773325
GIVE US ALL As THEN

>> No.17773369

>>17773332
Actually, now that I think about it, don't. That will lead to grade inflation.

>> No.17773376

>>17773325
Same

>>17773332
You have no idea how arbitrary it all is

>>17773369
You have no idea how much that has already happened and is already happening. Nothing means fucking anything.

>> No.17773406

>>17773309
Based non-anime OP

>> No.17773432
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17773432

>when you realise you hate and distrust women way too much to become a family man
Grim

>> No.17773447

So what now?

>> No.17773457

Content like this?

>> No.17773462

I really need to reverse the process of my decay. It has only gotten worse since I got a job. The rising tide of entropy seems intent on consuming my life and leaving only sun bleached bones on the indifferent shore of cosmic reality.

>> No.17773464

>>17773432
No you don't you LARPing frogposter.

>> No.17773472

>>17773325
>>17773376
give me an A Bryan

>> No.17773504

>>17773324
experience doesnt exist

>> No.17773522

>>17773504
You really can't assert this to a player character, sorry to say.

>> No.17773528

>>17773369
>grade inflation
In 8th grade computer class (typing speed, etc.), I did so well the teacher said my grade lowered everyone elses to a C or lower, and some to failure; I was typing around 100 wpm while the second highest was around 50 wpm. All thanks to playing RuneScape.

>> No.17773541

All I know is rejection. It seems like some comical joke from the universe to never let me get ahead. I try and try and try and always end up back where I began, or I may finally catch a break, only for something to go wrong and back to square one. I'm sick of it all.

>> No.17773548

>>17773462
>The rising tide of entropy seems intent on consuming my life and leaving only sun bleached bones on the indifferent shore of cosmic reality.
Too many adjectives but otherwise poetic description of increasing feeling of helplessness.

>> No.17773557

>>17773528
>runescape
Try starcraft zoomer
t. 140 WPM

>> No.17773566

>>17773504
it's the only thing that exists

>> No.17773589
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17773589

Too long have I viewed Japan and Eatern Asia in general as a shrouded in mists heavenly land. Every piece of art coming from there feels like a subtle masterpiece.
The problem is that this completeky killed and erased any form of enjoyment from Western art. It immidately feels empty and flat, as if I'm depressed.
I really want to appreciate Western art but I can't.

>> No.17773676

>>17773324
The soul theory isn't founded on anything either.

>> No.17773691

>>17773589
Stop worshiping bugs. Go watch videos on what it's like to live with them. They are practically mentally retarded by adulthood because they internally police their own thoughts for conformity.

That's the Japanese, the Chinese are just monsters and savages.

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>>17773548
>too many adjectives
That's just your baseless, abject, incorrigible subjective opinion.

>> No.17773724

>>17773173
Im a neet for 5 years. I gave up completely after last mistake.

>> No.17773728

>>17773676
Again, you simply can't tell a player character that there's no qualia. Sorry about it.

>> No.17773742

>>17773504
>>17773566
huh - so which one is it?

>> No.17773750

>>17773691
Stop worshiping /pol/. Go watch videos on what it's like to live with autistic skinhead-wannabes. They are practically mentally retarded by adulthood because they internally police their own thoughts for conformity.

>> No.17773765

>>17773589
It’s definitely not all a masterpiece but I do know what you mean. There’s in one sense the appreciation of Japanese art that you can find articulated in people like Fenollosa. In another sense, there’s an appreciation for Japanese art which I haven’t seen articulated anywhere but which I’m certain is salient for many people, including on this board. American art does feel dead to me. I’ve actually grown quite resentful of what I see around me as art, literature, and the like. In Japanese art, I still see something there. A lot of young people are influenced by things like anime and manga, for example. No doubt so much of it is just low brow cash grabs, something almost like mere pornography but still, some of it actually really profound, or at least it scratches at things which are really profound. I recently read the manga, Domestic Na Kanojo, which is a love triangle romance drama/comedy and while yeah, I found certain parts somewhat trashy, I also found it really romantic, tragic, and it made me feel things. I can’t remember the last time I felt this way about a Western work of fiction. There’s just something there that you can’t find over here anymore and I like it. I can’t help that. You know people get a lot of flak for being weebs and yeah, the people who are buying nendroids and dakikamura of their waifus are usually really immature but there’s a lot other weebs which you can’t really blame. Not only do they grow up with this stuff but where else are you supposed to go? Are you supposed to find your fantastic love story in a piece of modern Western literature? You know these things are even read by people who are very unhappy, but the one thing they can look forward to is the release of a new manga, a new story that speaks to them every week. I can sympathize with that. It sucks you’re between a rock and a hard place then because if you appreciate it you’re like a nerd weeb or something but if you don’t you’ve got nothing. It’s really a sad state for people like us over right now.

>> No.17773778

>>17773750
Put some more thought into this next time if you want to try it again. When you're so eager to rebuke the person that you don't think out your rebuke, you not only seem butthurt, you look stupid and discredit your side by association.

>> No.17773794

>>17773691
have you even been to an east asian country

>> No.17773824

>>17773778
I can't even vaguely understand what you're trying to say with that giant word salad. Learn to write more precisely

>> No.17773847

>>17773557
I liked RuneScape for its economics and bugs. Flipping, fixing prices, scamming, bug exploiting, etc. My favorite was scamming people, inventing elaborate scams, especially scamming other scammers.

>> No.17773882

>>17773309
I don't know. I'm kinda hungry, I guess.
I still wish I could write one single story from start to finish.

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>>17773504

>> No.17773907

>>17773824
>speaks English more than he speaks in his mother tongue
>probably thinks in English
>can't read English above a 6th grade level

Go back to bugland and get back in touch with your roots. Maybe you can even de-bug the place. Isn't that better than the shadowy, in-between existence you're living here?

>> No.17773941

i'm tired

>> No.17773978

>>17773309
i want to write, or to be a creator, but deep down i don't actually have anything to say. no original insight, helpful advice, unique perspective, or anything of the sort, nor do i have any particular talent for restating the obvious and mundane in a beautiful fashion.

>> No.17773993

>>17773309
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a823NIuqF78&ab_channel=JaredVester

>> No.17774015

>>17773978
Based born consumer. Don’t feel too bad, an authentic spirit is so rare as to not even really exist anymore. Eat sour patch kids and sour cream and onion chips and watch YouTube until you die, it’s what you were born to do.

>> No.17774026

>>17773978
i often feel the same way anon, but i believe we should not stop trying just because of this feeling :)

>> No.17774038

>>17773907
Dude I'm whiter than 90% of your neighborhood

>> No.17774042

>>17774026
Kys

>> No.17774047

>>17773978
experience more things and read more.

>> No.17774057

>>17774042
:)

>> No.17774085

What does it mean if I really admire, even envy, fervent nationalists and yet wish desperately to escape my own country and insert into another?

>> No.17774091

>>17774047
>become even bigger consumer

>> No.17774092

>>17774085
You want to belong. You want to be a person of action and passion. In reality you are a tepid loser and an outcast.

>> No.17774094

>>17773978
I feel like this a lot. What helps me is just putting the pen to paper for fun and letting my feelings spill out. We’re all human and experience human emotion, even if it’s just the emotions associated with feeling like you do right now.

>> No.17774098

>>17773324
>Soul theory stays winning, atheists perplexed.
fucking brilliant kek

>> No.17774103

>>17773978
The job of an author is not necessarily just to feel, but rather to put feeling into words. If you can do the latter, you’re most of the way there.

>> No.17774113

>>17774091
why do i come to this shit website

sure, just sit in your room all day and turn your unrealised genius into pure literary brilliance. you're too clever for real-life source material, unlike all of your favorite authors.

>> No.17774141

>>17774113
Go play with your switch, retard. Or better yet, post some of your writing from your oh so interesting life. Fucking midwit.

>> No.17774148

>>17773899
The blue orbs turn kinda red if you stare at them but the yellow/green orbs don't change color, and neither do the red ones.

>> No.17774211

I enjoy browsing /lit/ while I'm sitting on the toilet.

>> No.17774235

>>17774141
ahh, well i hope the writing career works out. sounds like it's off to a great start!

>> No.17774251

Is half the bottle for warding off suicidal depression really just having relationships and being busy?

>> No.17774278

I had a drink now and again, and now and again again. Of course, this lead me to the abyss.

>> No.17774347

>>17774251
that's just temporary.

>> No.17774362

>>17774347
If you’re continuously not lonely and you’re continuously busy, how is it temporary?

>> No.17774374

Has anyone considered that maybe the goal of a parent shouldn’t just be to raise your kids but to raise your kids in a manner so that they’re in a place by X age where they don’t have to look back at X + Y age and say they have a bunch of regrets or is it really just about money and keeping them alive.

>> No.17774435

How do you guys spend your out-of-work of weekend time?

I am almost always alone and I spend a lot of time either walking around town, practicing language, reading, writing, or just dicking around on YouTube and I want to break the isolated monotony.

>> No.17774444

>>17773309
i was making so much progress, then i decided to communism and now i'm an out of shape incel. i hate my life and want to die, but i;m obligated to write a philosophical refutation of communism before i do so

>> No.17774457

nothing matters
I can't describe it in any other way
I've lurked 4chan since I was in 7th grade when I was like 12 years old, I've recently turned 18.
I think it might've been all the rekt threads
I don't know If i'm fucked in the head man
I took two tabs last night, I'm still on the come down
I feel so artificial
If anything I'll probably check out before i get to my 30s

>> No.17774484

>>17773309
>Attention whore who kills other threads because the idea of replying without bumping is as anathema to his personality as not being a total bitch
Thanks for the warning about how desperate you are for (You)s. Btw you're cancer.

>> No.17774553

>>17774374
>they’re in a place by X age where they don’t have to look back at X + Y age and say they have a bunch of regrets
then my parents failed to raise me

>> No.17774582

>>17774148
They all look red to me.

>> No.17774589

i feel like a retard, dunno if it's some kind of brain fog or whatever but it feels like my brain has forgotten how to learn or how to retain information

>> No.17774788

>>17774589
Are you on meds?

>> No.17774821

>>17774457
It's fucked to realize how there is an entire generation like this. Back when I was a young adolescent in the 2000s, boys used to speculate about fabled snuff videos online, recordings of people being brutally murdered in cold blood. Now there's an endless supply of cartel executions at the fingertips of the morbidly curious and the sick-minded. Add to that the hardcore pornography displayed in crystal clear HD fleshy detail. Back then we still jerked off to photos half the time. I honestly fear for the future of humanity. There is going to be a generation of very strange young men incoming.

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>>17774821
>Back then we still jerked off to photos half the time
Pixelated adult ads at the back of gaming magazines.

>> No.17774967

>>17774821
yeah but that shit was new to us as well. gen Xers still talk about playboy magazines buried in the woods and shit.

>> No.17774984

>>17774457
I sincerely believe that there’s a few things at work here. One is yes, we are fucked in the head from various things. Another is that there just are and always have been people who for whatever reason feel hyper-aware of the banality and mundanity and general grey-ness that is everyday life. The final and more insidious thing, I think, is that we simply live in a place and time where pretty much nothing exists outside of a narrow scope of economy and nation. You’re expected basically to accept the idea that you’re just a clump of cells animated by nothing more that chaotic and meaningless atoms bumping around in a random and chaotic universe with no deeper purpose or imperative to either uncover or realize that purpose. What’s worse is you take issue with that, you’re chastised for it, perhaps even considered mentally ill. What do in light of all this? If I knew, I wouldn’t be here. All I’ve managed to do is find things that make me feel better and dull the awareness for a while and so I focus in on those things.

>> No.17775033

> Imagine that you're a senior web developer in a research role for an online luxury watch dealer

Imagine suggesting a human should use their imaginative faculties for that.

Fuck my company for nudging me into training for some retarded certs, fuck whoever wrote that line in the training, fuck the techno-atheist autists for not obsoleting work already, and fuck me for not setting up a shack by the beach and living off coconuts or some shit.

This bullshit is dismal.

>> No.17775101

>>17774984
>You’re expected basically to accept the idea that you’re just a clump of cells animated by nothing more that chaotic and meaningless atoms bumping around in a random and chaotic universe with no deeper purpose or imperative to either uncover or realize that purpose. What’s worse is you take issue with that, you’re chastised for it, perhaps even considered mentally ill. What do in light of all this?

For yourself, you have to figure out why that worldview is deluded. Longer term, the shit will implode, but no one can say when.

>> No.17775175

>>17773504
>>17773566
duality of singularity

>> No.17775209

>>17774484
nigga didn't even wait for the bump limit lol

>> No.17775210

>>17773899
Completely retarded. The mystery is that there is any perception at all. No one is asserting our perceptions are flawless or undistorted.

>> No.17775216

I thought my eyes were bugging out, but it's just my lights flickering.

>> No.17775217

My teeth hurt my gums are weird. i think im fucked

>> No.17775218

>>17775217
is this an ongoing problem, or just right now?

>> No.17775252

>>17775217
Can you access a dentist? If you can you should go. I had all kinds of crazy tooth problems due to shit hygiene through my childhood then weedsmoking in my 20s. But they still managed to unfuck me with a good amount of scraping. You might be surprised.

>> No.17775264

>>17775218
Past 2-3 months went to dentist yesterday, didnt say much just said I might need a deep cleaning. my insurance is sht and the dentist I can get are shit. I clean my mouth normally, thought I could just live my neet life but now im in constant dull pain and idk if cleaning will help. Might have been brushing too hard

>> No.17775268

>>17773309
does anyone else think the vigils in the uk right now reek of lizards?
it's like a genetically engineered counter-BLM, it's message seems to be 'what if instead of abolishing the police the actually route to justice is a lot more of them?'
and unlike BLM protests last year in which the media and politicians were scrabbling to respond to it this is clearly being led by the media and politicians
and it's eerily similar to the gloria steinham cia conspiracy of yesteryear

>> No.17775319

People are afraid or excited about VR being a replacement for reality, but I don't think we're anywhere close to that yet. For example, seeing paintings in VR is like looking at them on the internet and nothing like seeing them in real life. It's not anywhere closer to real life than being on your desktop. You need something completely revolutionary for that vision of replacing reality to make any sense.

>> No.17775325

>>17775268
if you google cartoon lizard an oddly high number of the results are wearing sunglasses, the international sigh of a spook
masons?

>> No.17775333

I know from experience that God is good. However, I am autistically hung up on the question of how this is. My understanding is that "good" is a created quality. So did God create His own goodness? If so he was not good before creating his goodness, which begs the question what prompted Him to create it. In fact that is kind of the question: what prompted God to create anything? One answer is that creation manifests the Truth. But why is the Truth what it is? My real problem here is that I have an understanding of who God is, and it is a good and a helpful understanding except that it doesn't account for Gods goodness, and I have this creeping lingering worry that if what I understand to be God has created qualities, maybe it is not God at all. But if it has no qualities, then why create anything, etc.

>> No.17775350

>>17775333
Read the Enneads or the Ashtavakra Gita

>> No.17775392

>>17775350
>Ashtavakra Gita
is this actually a translation of the whole text? it seems rather short
https://realization.org/p/ashtavakra-gita/richards.ashtavakra-gita/richards.ashtavakra-gita.html

>> No.17775462

>>17775101
>For yourself, you have to figure out why that worldview is deluded
I have but that doesn’t mean I’ve found something which can give meaning in that vacuum.

>> No.17775508

>>17775392
Yeah, it is short.

>> No.17775544

>>17775508
the conundrum is this. I read the first exchange (I gotta sleep soon and should really focus on uni), and the very first thing that Ashtavakra says is that one should "avoid the objects of the senses like poison and cultivate tolerance, sincerity, compassion, contentment, and truthfulness as the antidote." while the rest of his reply centers on how the true identity is pure consciousness. How can there be a right way to approach pure consciousness, any life that has a more favorable outcome in realizing it? This is the heart of my problem, because it is apparently arbitrary.

>> No.17775546

>>17775462
There's philosophy, if you want to stick to what can be said, and spirituality, if you want to explore what can't.

>> No.17775566

>>17773309
I just don't know anymore.

>> No.17775574

>>17773309
i'm no longer certain my life has value anymore. I've degenerated so far. Do i deserve to live? am i just sucking the soul out of those around me? should i kill myself? is my hs friend wasting his time by driving 45 minutes to visit me? do i desrve to live?

>> No.17775578

>>17775546
It’s not like I’ve not explored those two. It’s also not as if either broadly gives someone a reason to keep going. Honestly, for me the closest thing to a purpose I’ve found to this point is literally escaping totally into fiction and telling stories.

>> No.17775584

>>17775544
maybe this is where the ol faith-element comes in

>> No.17775588

>>17775333
I don't think his goodness was created but was always one of his attributes. God is good. God is. Actus essendi. That's my understanding.
>God replied to Moses: I am who I am. Then he added: This is what you will tell the Israelites: I AM has sent me to you.

>> No.17775593

>>17775544
As I recall, part of his point is to just relax. It's just a game. A more contemporary sage, Ramana Maharshi, says that God (Ishvara) only exists from the perspective of the unrealized self, but once realized, there is no God. Basically God is just something the elect made up to give to the unelect, so they could have something with which to understand supra-human states of being.

>> No.17775606

>>17775578
Sounds like you need to explore more. Both can fuck you up, but both can also help. Spirituality in particular just tells you to relax and realize quests for meaning are covert vainglory.

>> No.17775618

>>17775588
>This is what you will tell the Israelites: I AM has sent me to you.
this is such a based line

>> No.17775748
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Meeting Spring every year is as bittersweet for me as watching centennial children interact with one another: I see myself in both of them, and know the world through which they inevitably must pass.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxIzq0EdBAk

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>>17775333
>I know from experience that God is good
Your experience isn't a representative sample.

>> No.17775807

>>17775775
>my experience isnt valid if it isnt the average of all humanity over all time
Sorry what?

>> No.17775835

>>17775807
>God's will spans over all time and place
> It isn't applicable to the average of all humanity over all time
>Therefore you only fancy that God is good, there's no truth to it
Sorry what?

>> No.17775836

>>17773978
someone needs to play the part of the audience

>> No.17775869

I have no friends.
I have no girlfriend.
I have no worthwhile accomplishments.
I anger quickly.
I get tired very easily.
I’m lazy.
I’m unfit though I workout every day.
I come from a small, insignificant nation.
I want to redeem myself through my writing but I feel like I’m not good enough.
I feel genuinely worthless.
I want to kill myself.

>> No.17775880

>>17775869
I can sympathize with all of it besides being from a small nation

>> No.17775933

I would like to get involved with theater and drama. Problem is I’m a 28 year old straight man with no friends and I don’t know the first thing about theater or drama.

>> No.17775973

I would like to get involved in and make friends in theater. Trouble is I’m 28 years old and don’t know the first thing about theatre.

>> No.17775991

>>17775835
You specifically said that his experience of God being good was invalid because of someone else's experience somewhere else at a different time. Makes no sense bro.

>> No.17775999

>>17775880
I feel like if I could be proud of my culture and ethnicity I could at least claim the very bare minimum amount of dignity. But maybe it wouldn’t change anything I don’t know.

>> No.17776051

Just another day spent walking inside the maze.
I wonder if writing about depression is the right way to making it. Seems like everyone is writing about depression and the searching of a purpose nowadays. Perhaps writing about happiness is the right thing to do. Perhaps I should write romance, and just erase the parts where it fucking sucks.

>> No.17776602

>>17773309
I go from hobby to hobby trying to find something meaningful that I could one day monetize. I find that the only one that I enjoy is writing, but I doubt that it could ever be profitable. Instead of writing, I think of other get rich quick schemes as I get older and older working my 9-5.

>> No.17776692

I just need the touch of a woman so fucking bad /b/ros

>> No.17776790

>>17773309
I'm thinking why would I write what's on my mind in a place that can delete, edit or shadow ban my words at a wim of some cocksucker I no doubt have 40 iq points on easy ?
Now I'm thinking
I don't even think iq is that important but if it grinds a little weasel like mods gears it's well worthwhile mentioning it.
now I'm thinking should I mention that i recall one of my books being quoted on lit a while ago.

I Wouldn't be surprised if the thread was 404ed.

Now I'm thinking that's funny
:)

>> No.17776891

Feeling like I’ve finally come to identify what it is I should be doing with my life, after all this time on my own behind the eight ball only to realize that really, it needed to be started 10 years ago is just painful.

>> No.17778026

What is it about the prospect of a captive audience that appeals to me so? And undoubtedly to many others. It must because the ultimate human achievement is to get someone else to feel what you feel. This obliterates the isolation which is fundamentally intolerable. To get one single person to truly understand you must be more rewarding than any other bounty this world can afford. And not just to grasp your meaning. But to truly understand you on a level that penetrates every layer of space and time, to negate all differences which separate distinct consciousnesses. Love is merely an extension of this phenomenon. Platonic love is higher to physical love in that respect. It is the love in the same idea mutually recognized and instantiated in two minds, thus eliminating the distinction that made them two minds and folding them into one.

>> No.17778061

Do I mean empathy or cognitive recognition? Is there ultimately a difference?

>> No.17778107

>>17776891
What is the thing you should be doing with your life?

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I feel like anime has a lot to teach modern writers of fiction. Am I crazy in thinking this?

>> No.17778201

>>17778144
No, I think so too.Still, I can acknowledge that a large majority of it is low brow fan appeasement and cash grabs, nothing more. And even the stuff that goes deeper, tends to fall just short. So yes, with reservations.

Of course, there’s nothing to learn anyway since western lit doesn’t want to learn. That stuff just can’t get made here.

>> No.17778231

>>17773309
God, being a TV show host sounds like such a fun job. I'd be paid to talk about stuff I like talking about, which I do for free anyway

>> No.17778237

>>17773324
Nothing can explain experience. Don't try to pretend muh soul is any better.

>> No.17778245

I just screamed into the void out of sheer and undirected anger and man let me tell you, it was beautiful. In another life I'd be the singer in a metal band because damn it does it feel right to scream.

In this moment I thought of someone who spited me in particular in an intimate and unique way and in that moment my mind unleashed a million shotgun blasts and I just fucking screamed. And cut through this false world. And I followed the length of its cutting blade, as it continued to slice through my job, through my family, through my toxic relationships, through my society, through my fake clown government, and on unto the entirety of the universe which stubbornly and ignorantly refuses to agree with me to the letter to its own detriment. There are fewer purer expressions of emotions than a blood-curdling war cry of undirected rage .

You owe it to yourself. You owe it to yourself to scream.

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>>17778201
Oh yeah, a lot of it is trash, but then again a lot of Western film is trash these days, and a lot of Western literature is trash these days, too.

But I feel like one thing a decent amount of anime do really well is the entire idea of "slice of life." Of kind of slowing life down to tiny moments, here and there, and dwelling on those moments, and the slow rhythms of everyday life. But not in a way that makes them mundane, but in a way that celebrates their preciousness, and which makes you feel that time is fleeting, and that little moments here and there are to be prized for the tiny beauty they contain.

I feel like there's a rather substantial amount of anime that do a good job making you dwell on this idea. But what is there in Western literature that engenders this feeling? I feel like it's not common in the West. Joyce and Proust are the two names that come to mind, when I think of writers who force the reader to dwell on fleeting moments. And they're two of the greatest geniuses of the 20th Century, which only reinforces the fact that this idea just does not seem to be common in Western literature, or in Western storytelling in general.

>> No.17778354

>>17778300
I can agree with that. There are many other things as well. In general, Japanese media has managed to rather appropriately collapse the world down to the level of the interpersonal for several decades now, with the most notable example probably being Evangelion and everything to come after it. Western media absolutely fails and doesn’t even try to do this actually. In one you can a much richer exploration of tragic themes and in the other you get a stagnant obsession over the past and social issues or else something childish and unable to be identified with. Slice of life fits the first one. It’s first and foremost, an aesthetic experience. Great books like great anime get you hooked on the characters and give you a certain “vibe”. That’s been totally lost on us. I mean, think about the success of even those romantic dramas/comedies. Some of them, while being a bit trashy are genuinely good. I recently read the Domestic Na Kanojo manga and felt like this. It’s hard to imagine a similar sort of narrative even getting published in the modern West. Publishers don’t want to publish it and actually, writers don’t want to write it.

>> No.17778359

>>17778144
Have you heard of Redo of Healer?

>> No.17778425

>>17774788
no meds

>> No.17778434

I only feel like writing sci-fi and fantasy but the incongruity between these settings and my actual life troubles me

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>>17778354
>a certain "vibe"

I can agree with this, and I agree that the great books do this as well. Like, think of Moby-Dick. It has a "feel" to it, just as sure as any good anime. Something you can't describe in words, but that just comes to you as you read it. And I think Western works that have a feel, a vibe, do seem to be very rare these days. A kind of... organic-ness, you know? A sense that this is a living, breathing world you are reading about, with people who feel real instead of being mouths for this or that idea or perspective. An earthiness, a reality.

>> No.17778450

>>17775933
Just go to improv class once the quarantine ends.

>> No.17778467

Wife is giving birth rn lads. What a trip. Nothing will ever make you feel more worthless. For all the teddy k and ellul I read I'm thankful for modern medicine.

>> No.17778475

>>17778467
Congrats bro. Is it your firstborn?

>> No.17778483

>>17778475
Thank you ...Yes my first. A girl

>> No.17778487

>>17778483
That's great. It might not mean much coming from a stranger but I'm really happy for you

>> No.17778504

>>17778467
Overrated. Myself and all of my siblings were born at home without any complications. You just need to have some idea of what you're doing.

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>>17778483

>> No.17778510

I can't stand just how much my physiology determines my psychology. Miss a couple of meals, and you're either picking a fight on a train station over some petty non-cause, or too tired to sit straight. Sleep a couple of hours less than usual, and you can't string a couple of sentences together. The weather's changing? You're on a pain train, drilling one of your eyesockets from the inside — forget about being productive. Didn't attend to your junk for a while? Why, you must've forgotten about it. Here, have your head filled with nothing but women, you'll remember in no time!

Also, I cant' tell if the strategic vtuber spam on this board is a false flag or a genuine lack of tact.

>> No.17778538

>>17778510
mind and body connection is beautiful. Harmonize, synergize, and elevate yourself in the mind, body, and soul. You may meet Sophia yet.

>> No.17778542

>>17778504
That's great. Your mother is a powerful woman. We actually started at home and went to the hospital after about 12 hours. I truly respect your mother for being capable of it.
>>17778487
I do appreciate it, thank you

>> No.17778560

>>17778483
Congratulations, Anon. I'll pray for you and your new family. I dream of getting married and starting a family of my own. You have my blessings.

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>>17773309
The next thread should have Pekora.

>> No.17778601

Im wearing a yellow hoodie despite constantly feeling melancholic. Strange.

>> No.17778605

4chan is yet another medium for a long term abusive conditioning process. Imagine right now going to a board, any board, and posting about an interest you have. Maybe it's /mu/ and you want to know if anyone else is into [band] or [genre]/ Maybe it's /sci/ and it's some theory or subtopic of a broader topic. Maybe it's /g/ and it's some tech you use. Now, as you go to post take careful note of what you're actually feeling.

It's either apprehension, hardening (not talking about the porn boards here), or ramping up a readiness. This is because, you know you will be attacked. You know what this place is.

To this post people will tell me to go back to [other place], they'll say I'm weak and want a hugbox safespace and can't scale to any criticism, they'll say it's just a timewaster and not to take it seriously, many things in this vein will be brought forward. All of them are based on the same core assertion: The "mixed bag" is necessary, beneficial, and acceptable. Perhaps even ideal, good as gets. The way it should be. These things all show that they've been abused for so long they can no longer even see it. Bit by bit, the entire internet becomes the same haze of stupidity and bullshit, bit by bit this behavior becomes omnipresent. Eventually, this "mixed bag" will be all there is.

The extreme safe space mentality of some sites, and the needlessly brutal nature of some of the chans, are actually incredibly similar underneath. Eventually they will converge to the same end point. And you will only have yourself to blame. Deprecate 4chan. Deprecate bullshit. Start holding yourself and other people to a higher standard. If you don't take yourself by the reins, someone else will. If you don't use your brain, someone else will use it for you. So too of one's neighbor. Remember that.

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Others don't realise that empathy the way is understood today is a European sentiment, but we're making it universal and forcing others to accept it as Good and True, so we're still colonizing even the anti-colonists and they don't even realise it but even preach it further.

>> No.17778762

>>17778605
>It's either apprehension, hardening (not talking about the porn boards here), or ramping up a readiness. This is because, you know you will be attacked. You know what this place is.
Sounds like you're a pussy faggot lmao. I make 10+ threads per day and I barely even check them let alone feel any apprehension when making them.

>> No.17778772

>>17773309
I hate how much power other people have over me.

>> No.17778781

>>17778772
You deserve for being weak.

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I dream of writing great art. I think, actually, that I have already written some great art. And I plan to write more.

The question is, will it be given its opportunity? I find myself suddenly worrying that I won't have space to get my art out into the world, given the current state of things. I think if I could get the world to read what I've written, they'd like it. But I need an opportunity.

>> No.17778806

>>17778788
If you create great art, you just need to put it out there and it'll be discovered today or in 100 years. But you most likely haven't created great art or even know what that means.

>> No.17778818

Im going fucking insane. I should kill myself while im still lucid enough to do it.

oh look a new get and its 7's too
>>17777777

>> No.17778868

I saw this video earlier today: https://youtu.be/oWXgaEyI6ps
Nihilist zoomers attack an old hagiographer and destroy his icon of the Virgin Mary. At the end they start shouting: "to hell with with the family, to hell with the fatherland, Greece shall die, we shall live", an attack on the old saying "fatherland, religion, family." A the end the old man says: "Kids I love you."
I just feel numb, besides being nihilist, those kids are just genuinely malevolent here. Making fun of the church and greedy priests has always been a part of life here, but that's just because most people here are genuinely faithful. People feel comfortable enough to poke fun at the church. But never this. I don't know how to feel. My day is ruined.

>> No.17778874

>>17778868
And we care why?

>> No.17778877

>>17778868
why is this happening? any particular incident?

>> No.17778883

>>17773309
Tranny pedos rot in hell.
And regular pedos.

>> No.17778889

>>17778874
If I wanted to hear the same story of how the youth are brainwashed, I would have posted it on pol, but I know that there are people here who can make sense of this better than I.

>> No.17778897

>>17778868
You didn't explain why this happened wtf is wrong with you

>> No.17778924

>>17778877
>>17778897
The man was just passing by, leftists are in the streets for some time now against new legislations, but that has nothing to do with the old man. They attacked him without any reason.

>> No.17778928

Feels like I'm sleepwalking through life. How do I wake up?

>> No.17778932

>>17778924
Sounds like bullshit. It's about those legislations and that old man was probably supporting them. You avoiding to provide proper context makes this even more suspicious

>> No.17778944

Anybody ever reach atonement? Like made up for their past actions and moved on happy?

>> No.17778949

How many kids did Foucault give his AIDS to?

>> No.17778951

Her gaze was painted with a look of pity and self-concern.

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>>17778762
>make threads
>automatically go to watchlist
>tell myself i'll check them out later
>don't

>> No.17778974

>>17778928
You need to suffer

>> No.17778978

>>17778868
You won't get any good answers. Almost everyone with half a brain left here a long time ago. The board is dumbed down by petulant little keyboard warrior zoomer faggots like these.
>>17778874
>>17778897
>>17778932

>> No.17778980

>>17778762
Is that why the board quality is such trash?

>> No.17778986

>>17778980
You're the ones posting in my threads

>> No.17778990

>>17778932
I checked the news site that uploaded the video and there isn't any information on it, so I give you the benefit of the doubt, but even then, would that justify treating that man like this, attacking his faith and destroying his work? While being outnumbered?

>> No.17779001

>>17778990
Yes, crowds are violent and virtually unaccountable. Read Gustave le Bon

>> No.17779093

I'll never understand what its like to be a mother as a man.

>> No.17779102

I'll never understand what it's like to be a squirrel as a human.

>> No.17779107

>>17778560
Thank you. I pray you meet a good woman (or man) to have a family with. We're all gonna make it

>> No.17779123

>>17778483
>A girl
Sorry

>> No.17779359

>>17774582
Well I guess our eyes don't work the same way.

>> No.17779417

I've started a whole notebook about my surreal sadomasochistic sexual fantasies where I try to analyze what they mean to me. I have written booklets about many subjects but never this, and I think it's going to be transformative.

>> No.17779454

Success does not bring me happiness

>> No.17779474

>>17779454
Success brings prestige not happiness. Prestige may or may not bring happiness

>> No.17779522

>>17776692
you're not on /b/, retard. consequently, we're not your /b/ros

>> No.17779524

We can not allow that society collapses. If it does, what then will be the fate of all the rats?

>> No.17779534

>>17779474
this guy gets it. there's a hadith to the effect that fame is not a good, but can be an evil

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>>17779534
>hadith

>> No.17779571

wait, is what carries the heat from the sun light? it is right? or is there some non-light radiation? been a while since high school

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Does this scare the shit out of anyone else? I have no illusions about ever being above average in the income department, so what am I to do? From my experience, working class women stick to their own kind of men and are not interested unless you work some blue collar, manly sort of job. It's like you're confined to the minimal salary receptionists because anyone in your income bracket or above surely isn't going to touch you, but even then, why would she settle? She's going to wait forever in hopes that her own Disney prince management consultant is going to sweep her off her feet and shower her in diamond rings and BMWs.

>> No.17780135

I’m legitimately mad that magic and occult shit is not real.
I would dedicate my life to delving into abandoned libraries and temples in search of forbidden knowledge.

>> No.17780148

>>17780116
I care nothing for women I only refuse to celebrate and serve a system that keeps telling me I am useless while putting people who disgust me on a pedestal. I would rather kill myself than get a job. It's either the life I want or nothing.

>> No.17780156

>>17780116
most +30 women settle with some guy.

>> No.17780178

I believe jesus came back and I chose the world, not because I wanted to particularly but I did not understand what was happening. now I'm wondering how to salvage the situation

>> No.17780180

>>17773309
my friend is being a real bitch right now and I'm mad about it.

>> No.17780181

>>17780135
how do you figure it's not?

>> No.17780183

>>17780135
tawhid>me>magic>you

>> No.17780228

>>17776602
This shit right here. The rat race is consuming my spirit, but I am neither talented enough nor interested enough to find a creative, monetizable hobby

>> No.17780242

>>17780228
it doesn't even matter what you make if you're not willing to do literally everything it takes to get ahead in the rat race, and that almost always means unethical or degrading shit

>> No.17780264

>>17780242
It’s bad enough dealing with co-workers who’d kick you down the ladder just for a chance at a $2 raise.

I can’t imagine dealing with other creatives whose works are also their livelihoods.

The rat race never ends. It’s a sick world that forces you into immorality to succeed.

>> No.17780285

I walk into the handicap washroom of course. Rationally it has more privacy where I can discreetly move the axe dangling from my coat pocket, into the inside of my genuine, fifteen hundred dollar, Canada Goose Parka. I've already assumed I look like a mad man of course.

Inside the washroom I calmly put the axe into a sink and pliers on the hand dryer. Peering into the mirror I look like a
homeless serial killer. Wearing nothing but basketball shorts and a filthy dirty parka, shirtless, with leftover deranged
intention locked into your gaze and hairstyle tends to make you feel that way.

The first thing I do is slick back my hair to a more sane appeal and notice how gorgeous I am. I proceed to wash my hands and tie up my basketball shorts so they don't fall down. I coolly try to fit the axe into my right coat pocket, with no luck - the axe is too large. I then try the left coat pocket, and while the axe fits, this coat pocket has holes, so I panic. This is far too inconvenient and not proper at all.

I calmly think of the most rational options. If people see an axe dangling from my outer coat pocket, there is a probability
I might alarm people - a choice I do not prefer. The basketball shorts had no chance to hold up or hide an axe, this was out of the question. I considered hiding the axe in my coat sleeve, but disliked the awkwardness of walking around with an axe up my sleeve. The worst option of course was walking around with an axe in my hand looking like a maniac.

I arrived at a resolution that the best probability I had at success was the original arrangement of hiding the axe in my left coat pocket, therefore putting the pliers in the right inner coat pocket. This was a compromise between error and convenience. Holes in the pocket of course could result in the malfunction of instrument usage; namely - the axe, something that however, at all costs, had to be accessed at convenience.

The error in this case that could result in malfunction was negligible relative to the value in the function of the left coat pocket, therefore it was undeniable the axe belonged there.

I zipped up the parka to conceal the fact I was shirtless, or so I wouldn't look like a homeless maniac. I wash the dust, dirt and ash off my Parka to complete the illusion. I begin to look more sane. I prop up the Parka collar so its evenly spread, the proverbial cherry on top. I display a lanyard and wooden crucifix on top of the jacket to saturate the artwork. I seek what my most appealing, attractive, and warm gaze appears as, and attempt to hold it. I exit the washroom.

There is an idea of a Patrick Bateman, some kind of abstraction, an illusion, or entity, but this a fabrication, a fiction, and although you can shake my hand, and maybe even sense our lifestyles are comparable, its all nothing but a carefully constructed, and artful deception.

>> No.17780360

>>17780181
How do you figure it is?
>>17780183
Islam is of the anti-Christ

>> No.17780380

Youth really is wasted on the young

>> No.17780654

>have 15 books in backlog
>dont know what to read next

>> No.17780887

Why are there so many buddhist larpers on this board? If you really accept Buddhism why are you online in the first place, why haven’t you got on neetbux and begun spending all your time meditating?

>> No.17781017

>>17778483
*hits pipe*

>> No.17781020

>>17773311
Thank you for writing this.
It was something I needed to read today.

>> No.17781060

>>17773311
How to be honest with myself?

>> No.17781085

the world would've been broken anyway. i mean, yeah it was my fault; but i kind of preferred it this way.

>> No.17781123

Soseki’s Kokoro was fantastic. The first 150-200 pages were something of a slow burn with only little sparks here and there to keep you interested in what is really poetry and then the last 50-100 pages really just wrap up the whole book in a way that’s nothing short of fantastic. I’m really surprised and impressed. I love this book.

>> No.17781487

>>17779522
whatever newfriend

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>>17773589
>Every piece of art coming from there feels like a subtle masterpiece.

>> No.17781523

>>17773978
>i want to write, or to be a creator, but deep down i don't actually have anything to say. no original insight, helpful advice, unique perspective, or anything of the sort, nor do i have any particular talent for restating the obvious and mundane in a beautiful fashion.

read more books then

>>17774026
you too

>> No.17781616

>>17781487
I'm not new, newfriend. it isn't and has never been commonplace to refer to people as /b/ros outside of /b/. it seems like it should be obvious.. apparently not to a /b/tard

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>>17781518

>> No.17781732

I don't know where it came from, I had life coming out my ears not two days ago. Every place feels like a waiting room, every person like a desk attendant. I feel as though I have something to tell them, but I can't, but I don't want to, and I won't. The world feels so small. My dad was depressed. His dad was too. I don't like depression, the idea of it, it seems like a pain in the ass. There's old words that nobody uses anymore, that sound nice: the "blues", a "nervous breakdown", "melancholy." I'm hoping it's one of those and not the doctor's appointment, the shitty couch, the suggested doses, the concerned friends. What a pain in the ass.

>> No.17781754

>>17773309
had to do a few essays on this painting, turner is surprisingly very un interesting

>> No.17781758

>>17781754
Do go on, please

>> No.17781760

where the fuck do silver fish come from

>> No.17781766

>>17781760
Don't think anyone's solved the problem of evil yet m8

>> No.17781783

conservatism is paradoxical

>> No.17781813

>>17781760
Silverfish are ancient animals. They can live like 30 years and go an absurd amount of time without eating. I never kill them, just leave them outside. The ones who are colored silver are adults.

>> No.17782210

>>17778605
>The extreme safe space mentality of some sites, and the needlessly brutal nature of some of the chans, are actually incredibly similar underneath.
Good way to put it. It's all about conformity and character assassination underneath.

>> No.17782241

It’s really hitting my lately just how many opportunities I’ve squandered in my life. Weakness is the only real trait you could ascribe to me, it eclipses any other. Some of it was not my fault, yes, but in the end it was my choice to stay in my comfort zone, to sit with my laptop instead of doing, well, literally anything else for a literal decade at this point. I’m doing much better now, but man what a fuck up.

>> No.17782285

>>17782241
Are you me?

>> No.17782408

>>17781783
same goes for all political ideologies

>> No.17782499

I'm not sure which is better: going back to my childhood while still maintaining the same level of consciousness I have now or reliving it exactly like it happened.

>> No.17782511

Most of the time reading philosophy and theory does not do much to reward me but I keep at it anyway. I feel like I have this desire to understand what certain thinkers are saying and submerge myself into the discourse around their ideas, which this board is good for but a lot of times it gets tedious or overwhelming because it sometimes feels like we only learn things for the purposes of arguing against those who do not agree. The same can obviously be said for political discourse in general where each side wants the other side to meet the caricature of what they desire them to be; each opponent gets a pleasure they do not realize when the other lashes out against them in order to confirm their moralistic or narcissistic impulses. Everyone likes to feel smart and correct but it is more dangerous in a way if people try to play off this impulse and just repeat what they hear. It is better if antagonism is open for all to see instead of being covered by ideology because the most powerful ideology is that which proclaims to be anti-ideological.
This political antagonism exists on this board and in this thread and could be chalked up to cultural or generational factors but all of the explanations bear the mark of ideology. A new conception of politics must be forged if we are to break from this repetition but I suspect there will always be an antagonism centered online between sites like this and mainstream social networks; both reflect alienation but in different ways that ideology has rendered incompatible.

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I love women so much it's unreal.

>> No.17782681

>>17782598

Same, bro.

I also hate them.

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The only thing I don't like about monarchy is the danger of having to tolerate an unworthy person on the throne. All moral and existential confusions dissolve in the service of the king. The world knows an honorable death again and things are again in order, as nature intended.

>> No.17782704

>>17782695
>The only thing I don't like about monarchy is that literally anyone who has ever been a monarch was an unworthy person

>> No.17782706

I couldn't care less about race.

>> No.17782797

>>17782706
what race are you

>> No.17782813

s the world fundamentally violent?

I’ve thought about this for a long time, and I can’t help but think that everything in the universe—from galaxies to civilizations to the tiniest particles—exists because things surmounted other things and all existence continually affirms itself materially through these cycles of violence.

I’ve come to think that all change is a kind of violence (stripped of the emotional baggage that comes with the word). The way I envision it is almost like a mathematical derivation of the universe, a perpetual balancing of the sheets.

I’m not advocating violence and I’m not trying to be edgy here. I am open to being refuted. Tell me your thoughts on the matter.

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>>17782704
Most monarchs were ok, actually.

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I'm very worried I didn't critically analyse the cases in the law assignment I just submitted, and I have to wait approximately 3 weeks until I'll know how I did. I can't believe I could spend hours thinking I've covered all the points, only to have an offhand comment from another student shatter my impression of my own work. I keep holding myself to this extraordinary standard with my work, I feel like unless I'm getting incredible grades I'm a fraud.

>> No.17782877

>>17782859
>I'm a fraud.
This means you are good at legal analysis. The entire thing is made up and the points don't matter. Interpreting cases is wholly dependent upon the grader's level of neoliberal indoctrination. No one cares about the economic or moral consequences of Palsgraf v. Long Island Railroad Co., they just want the rule, the justification for the rule, and a method of the rules application. No one wants to talk about the systematic destruction that has been caused by cases like Ford v Dodge. They just want the rule, a method of applying the rule, and a justification.

You'll be fine anon. You are thinking far too much and too hard as to what quality work is when it comes to the law. None of it is real. None of it matters.

>> No.17782885

>>17782813
sure but you generalize too much

>> No.17782931

I want not to be paralysed by fear.
I cant even kill myself to escape this torture because im too much of a coward. My life is a joke.

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>>17773309
Gentlemen, the jackdaws are back in town. My energy finally returns and I find myself utterly incapable of doing the dull work I must, on the other hand I find myself incapable of sitting through grand strategy games so the cycle continues and now I will only read for 6 months before lapsing into 3 months of vidya - not by my planning mind you. God, I wish I was a bird!

>> No.17783059

>>17782877
I just worry that in the justification of my constructions that I assume that a specific case applies - that in a potential reckless murder situation its obvious that a case where the Judge outlines what constitutes recklessness is used.

e.g. " The test in Anon v The Queen for reckless murder requires the accused to have foresight of highly probable, not merely possible death or serious harm resulting from the accused's actions. Given the circumstances it is evident that the accused would have had foresight of the probability, if not near certainty of death or serious harm resulting from their {action}. The charge of murder would likely succeed."

And that would be the construction. I understand that in these assignments they give us quite restrictive word limits to force us to practice brevity. I certainly could have written a further paragraph that clearly demonstrates that the accused didn't murder the victim with the clear intent to kill, but since I have to assess criminal liability and move on to other potential charges I felt compelled to discuss the clearest avenue for murder, which was recklessness.

Apologies for the effort-posting

>> No.17783073
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>>17782695
You’re deranged

>> No.17783078

the idea that what life is desire manifest is somewhat attractive. certainly it is by desire that life is reproduced, by desire that it is lived.

>> No.17783087

>>17782695
a modern argument is that a king will be so aloof he may treat war with less care than modern weaponry warrant

>> No.17783104

I have not been able to surmise just what it is that is going on for a long time now, and when I thought I could, before all of this, I was wrong.

>> No.17783110

>>17783073
I am and it is NOT my fault REEEEEEE

>> No.17783138

>>17783087
the idea being that a voting public, being the ones expected to fight the wars, will be less keen. two fair counterarguments are 1. nuclear weapons, and 2. the general public are fucked over by pr pros left right and center, and besides we dont vote on foreign policy because only the CIA actually know what's going on

>> No.17783146

>>17783059
if your IRAC 'works' then you're fine, anon. We could all write about the definition of a definition of a definition of a definition which applies to this fact and thus x would apply. It looks like you have a decent grasp of how simple legal analysis is. Don't sweat it. Put that effort into a paper YOU want to write.

>> No.17783181

>>17783146
Cheers lad, feel better now. Always room for improvement, I'll see what the comments say

>> No.17783353

>>17782967
My jackdaws aren't back yet, but there's a big old lady blackbird who is definitely going to have kids outside my window in the magnolia tree. I saw her getting straws to fancy the place up a few times.

>> No.17783367

Going outside and deleting social media is now a revolutionary act. Meeting up to see a local band or going out with friends to a bar are frowned upon and being a NEET locked inside or glued to your phone is considered model behavior. 20 years ago you weren't supposed to put your name online, now you can't get a job without having a Facebook employers can find on Google. If you were on the internet all day you were a weirdo, now you're the weird guy for not having a phone that gives you 24/7 access to the internet.

>> No.17783393

The mind of the fool is always caught in thinking or not thinking, but the wise man’s is of the nature of no thought because he thinks what is appropriate.

>> No.17783394

You have no idea how badly I simply want to be someone else.

>> No.17783440
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I have some sort of communicative issues. Conversations are a pain for me because I constantly think about how I talk and what I sound like. I tend to mumble and I have a bit of a lisp. Even when I consciously try to talk slowly to avoid those things, I somehow still automatically skip syllables, say a word I didn't want to say or I have to think for a second about what it is that I want to articulate.
I'm moving into another town for college and I don't know how to make friends with that insecurity, let alone get a gf. I'm scared of coming across as "that guy" if you know what I mean. I feel this sense of inferiority when I talk to people because of that.
I'm not even introverted. I'd like hanging out with people but I'm just socially incompetent.

>> No.17783462

The human experience is inadequate. Regardless of location, sex, epoch, or age, we have always been unsatisfied and striving for something more. Truly achieving happiness or an eternal utopian end point seems more and more like an impossible dream.

>> No.17783494

>>17783462
I'm reading hindu philosophy, this came up

"It is the feeling that there is something that needs to be achieved which is samsara. The wise who are of the form of emptiness, formless, unchanging, and spotless see nothing of the sort."

>> No.17783511

How do I find a cause?

>> No.17783621

I can't even remember the last week when I didn't have a wet dream. Not even regular fa*ping helps now.
Also, discuss: What's worse, being bellow average height with an avg shlong, or avg height with a bellow avg shlong?

Neither of these have anything to do with literature or culture in general, but I'd say they're good for this thread.

>> No.17783669

>>17781813
>>17781766
I wonder if I can realistically get evicted over silverfish

>> No.17783688

>>17783440
Have you tried getting professional help from a logopedist? No shame in that.
Have you thought about what the core of this insecurity is? Has someone bashed you badly for it when you were a kid?

Mumbling really isn't a big problem, mate. Certainly not in finding friends. One of my best friends mumbles a lot, so much that you can really call it pathological, and he's even insecure about it, but he just goes out and hangs out with people and that's all that's needed, no one judges him, no one will judge you either.. not if you are a decent person, that is.
>>17783394
Made me remember this one thought by Schopenhauer, where he discusses this phenomenon, saying that people want to be like someone else, but don't really wanna become someone else, because obviously they want to keep their personality and consciousness, which makes the whole desire nonsensical.
You might find out that it's not that bad being yourself if you think of it that way.

>> No.17783704

This is basically a blog but fuck I have nowhere else to share this shit.

I have this female friend who likes to write, and the past few months we've been sharing our writing with each other and hit it off super great. We kept growing closer to the point we even started sending each other straight up erotica, and it was fucking awesome because we're both passionate about writing and just have these awesome fucking interlocking styles and personalities where we just absolutely dig each other's stuff. We even joked about going on dates when the lockdown ended and seeing about writing some stuff together in person at my place.
And then today we found out we're actually fucking related. My grandmother's younger brother died in the 1970s, and he had a young daughter and she and her mother just ended up drifting away from my family and lost contact.
Turns out this girl I've been speaking to is his fucking granddaughter and neither of us knew until a relative pointed it out. Apparently we're fucking second cousins or whatever.

Fuck bros. It fucking sucks.

>> No.17783754

>>17783511
cause for what?
>>17783704
well yeah, that sucks. how did you even meat if you haven't seen each other irl yet?

>> No.17784086

>>17783704
Cousins are OK anon, you have my blessings.

>> No.17784115

>>17781616
>I'm not new
apparently you are

>> No.17784155

>>17773309
One of the benefits of writing I've found is that I can appreciate other literature more. Now when I read something I notice the craft, how the author is using style and pacing, how certain choices of words paint pictures of the scenes in my head, etc. It's not just me blindly "consuming" the text itself any more, if that makes sense.

>> No.17784218

>>17784155
Don't get too caught up into analysis though, it can drive you to obsess over form rather than content.

>> No.17784220

>>17784155
This is really important in really any creative medium. Creating things yourself alert you to the 'choices' that need to be made at every stage in the composition process. No piece of art is ever 'random', which I think is what plebs believe. Or what those kids in your high school class meant when they said that the author wrote the book 'just to tell a story'

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>>17781634
looks like shit

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>>17780135
Have you tried looking into Tantra? There may be some magic there, but becoming a siddhi seems to require extreme circumstances to come together and lifelong dedication. In my opinion its the most likely existent magic.

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>>17781518

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>>17784406
japs can´t into art

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>>17781518
>>17784358
did you just make that image or did you have it saved? Cringe either way.

>> No.17784438

>>17778928
I wish I could tell you. I got shocked into wakefulness by losing my family.

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>>17784412

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>>17784412
That painting is mediocre by Western standards, in technique and otherwise.

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Please advise. As a child of privilege, how should I live my life in an appropriately patrician /lit/ manner?

I come from upper middle class professionals, but recently we have become quite wealthy. It occurs to me that I am still fairly young and now have great opportunities which I should act on. I need to overcome my inherited stinginess and do something exceptional.

I recently completed a history degree from a good university, with the intention of going into government service. I am learning French and leaving for Paris in two weeks to work for a major IGO. I am staying in a very nice apartment which belongs to my wealthy uncle and will live (at least) 6 months in this foreign city I have never before visited.

Feel free to recommend anything big or small. I'm finally free and need to do something beautiful with my youth.

>> No.17784505

>>17784479
Start writing, you idiot. Some of us would kill a person to have the privilege you have. We’re going to spend our lives working shitty low end wage slave jobs publishing books that we can’t invest nearly enough time into on Amazon. There’s no reason both of us should have to be failures of circumstance. Otherwise, I don’t care at all what you do.

>> No.17784510

Life can sure feel more like a prison sentence than a gift sometimes, huh?

I’m really lonely and bored and just tired and I don’t really know how to not be at this point.

>> No.17784513

>>17784479
>>17784505
Also, get the fuck off this site. Why are you even here? This place is for maladjusted loners and those who are too addicted to leave. Go find an author to apprentice under. Go find a hobby. Go join a club. Anything but spending your time here. You want to make something of your life? Get off this site.

>> No.17784543

>>17773309
Do 2d girls dream of 3d men?

>> No.17784571

I bought a flesh light. used it once. It rots away in my room never to be used again.

>> No.17784579

What are you searching for?

>> No.17784582

>>17773311
>It pays to be as honest as possible with yourself, and to present yourself as honestly as possible to others,
Real life isn't like the movies humans lie for a reason.
>Hey how you doing mate haven't seen you in a while
>Well I fell into a dark depression masturbating all day in my room wishing for death

>> No.17784600

Is it possible for stress to manifest itself physically even when you're not feeling stressed on a conscious level? The past couple months of my life have been a little stressful with work and relationship things. Nothing super stressful honestly, like nothing I would even bother complaining about here, but more stress than your average baseline day to day existence. I don't feel particularly stressed or unhealthy, but recently I've been sleeping really poorly, noticing grey hairs (I'm only 24), developing dandruff, and skin has been bad. I guess it could be related to anything really, but I don't think my diet has changed much. Anyone else experienced something like this?

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>>17784432

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>>17784465
>>17784452

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>>17773589

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>>17773589
think again weeb

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>>17784465

>> No.17784649

Now that I’m in my late twenties and able to look at what I did or didn’t do as an adolescent and young adult from an objective view, I’m starting to realize how badly our parents failed us and continue to fail us. At least, it seems that way where I live. There are so many things which are so obviously important to not necessarily having a happy life, but I guess to having a worthwhile life and there are simply things which are proper ways to go about something. As I reflect on them, they seem to me almost common sense, like if I were to time travel to peasant village in 1900, they would be things that any common person could agree with as sensible and yet somehow they were totally lost on our parents snd their grandparents. They sold us on bullshit, failed to actually invest in us, and pretty much threw these things, which are actually pretty important, to the wind without caution figuring “Oh well. They’ll just figure it out”. Only we’re not. I look around me and I see that I haven’t figured it out. I don’t think most of my peers have figured it out. We’re all falling behind and things are actually getting harder because the base wasn’t set up like it was supposed to be. At the same time, I look across cultures and see clearly that these ideas are still deeply ingrained over there to the point where it’s almost nonsensical to even talk about them as such. I know. I know. I’m putting too much blame on them. Ultimately, our lives are in our own hands and there’s a degree to which that’s true. Still, we don’t exist in a vacuum. We live in relation to other people, places, and events that mould us and give shape to our lives. Who does so more than our parents? I just think it’s the reality that they really didn’t care so much and to the extent they did, they failed anyway. It’s maybe not their fault but it doesn’t change the facts. I suppose I just hope that the trend reversed course. I’ve tried to offer advice for my young siblings along those lines but who knows how effective it really is.

>> No.17784663

>>17784628
Now slap a pic of some mediocre action drama on the left snd you’ll be doing this fairly. Whoever made this is pretty sad actually.

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>>17784624
>Japanese narratives don't conform to Western feminist standards of age of consent, I don't like their aesthetics, and they're too cute and suggestive.
That's a very deep analysis of anime tropes, I'm not sure what else there even is to say about Madoka Magicka than that.

>> No.17784668

>>17784649
What are some examples of things our parents failed to teach / instill in us?

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>>17784663
japs can´t into art

>> No.17784677

>>17784624
What a deceptive bullshit meme. Talk about comparing apples to oranges.

>> No.17784679

>>17784624
Holy shit out of all the great things to come from Western literature you choose shit about a pathetic "he's literally me!" incel. God I hate the french and their obsession with being losers.

>> No.17784735

>>17784668
So one example is relationships. I don’t think it’s really a secret that most people will want or need a friend or two, hopefully a romantic partner as an adult, not necessarily to be happy but because being alone, for most people, can be really actually quite hard. Here in America, parents don’t really encourage a mindset which is conducive to that. If you’re a young man, your parents might lead you to believe that friends don’t really matter, the friends you make in high school and college don’t really matter, and after you graduate they don’t matter. They’ll also lead you to believe that you should put off even dating seriously, let alone marriage until you’re in your like 30s. But the reality couldn’t be further from the truth. First of all, you shouldn’t be living a life (ideally) where you’re bouncing around from place to place every 4 years before your 35th birthday where you’ll have to leave behind all of your friends. If you’re going to go to college, go to the city and not some country bumpkin flagship state school to drink that you’ll have to leave behind in 4 years anyway. But even so, try to hold onto the friends you make as a young person in high school and college. The reason being is because it only gets more difficult as you get older especially if you’re one of these people that bounce around or just make mistakes. Instead of telling you that, they feed you bullshit about what to study, and dreams about this career or that career or this city or that city, never mentioning “actually, you’re going to want a close friend or two when you’re 26”. so cherish what you’ve got. The irony is that our parents actually did live this way, albeit accidentally. It’s just us they lied to and sold on bullshit. If you go to other countries, this stuff is common sense. Parents just expect you to stay friends with the friends you make in school at least until you’re older. That’s just one example off the top of my head.

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>>17773589
Fucking weebs

>> No.17784748

>>17784744
The cat looks like he’s up to something.

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>>17784672
Looks really strange like old PC game cover art. Don't give a shit about this one.
>>17784637
Actually good.
>>17784615
I've seen millions of paintings of wild oceans. Technically greatly skilled, yet ultimately forgettable. I'd be perfectly content with never seeing another ocean painting like this again.

Get some taste and post some real art next time, like pic related. Don't give me this stale bread, please.

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>>17773309
The funniest thing about arguing with libshits are the way they go into espousing some kind of perverted shit when they're losing. Every time. Why are they so demented like this?

>> No.17784800
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17784800

I listened to Thoreau, and I've been chopping down trees for a couple months on my parent's acreage in order to build a greenhouse for my recently-medically-retired mom. But at 27 years old I constantly judge myself for everything I can, so even something as noble as helping my mom deal with depression comes with getting mad at myself every night for not doing more. I judge myself from a future perspective looking back, knowing how pathetic a life I'm leading, and I try desperately to live within certain boundaries while building strength. But the answer is to just be honest and face consequences, as Frank Sinatra says, "I did it my way, I said the things I truly feel and not the words of one who kneels."

I just need to get stronger. Stronger in every way, stronger than anything that comes my way, so that I can live an honest life and successfully overcome the consequences.

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>>17784774
>Get some taste and post some real art next time, like pic related. Don't give me this stale bread, please.

you asked for it buddy

>> No.17784840 [DELETED] 

>>17784505
>>17784513
You're right. I do have a copy-editing job now, which makes for good practice, but I need to force myself to write creatively at least once a week.

I'm here because I was bullied in grade school which permanently destroyed my self esteem. I'm not looking for pity; it's just what happened. My coping mechanism was finding religion in University. However, I never stopped hating myself, and I always felt unworthy of the University Christian group even though they were the nicest people ever. I then stumbled across /lit/ in 2018 during the heyday of Tradcath posters and got very caught up in it all. I now realize that this board is shit and all the best Christian posters are gone, but there's no good place to talk about books on the internet so I'm stuck.

>> No.17784869

I'm manic and I can't fucking sleep

>> No.17784878

>>17784795
It also reminds me of AHS spamming porn onto subreddits, trying to get them banned

>> No.17784906

>>17784735
Did anybody in our generation have parents that even 'taught' them anything? I don't think my parents taught me the wrong lessons, but the only real moral education I ever received from them was to tell the truth and don't be racist. But desu I'm not convinced how different that is to previous generations. The world our parents grew up in is different to the world we currently live in and so it's possible they dont HAVE any lessons for us because they don't really know what's going on either. My parents never went to college, their parents were laborers in a town where you couldn't even buy brocolli until the mid-70s. I'm not disagreeing or agreeing with you, btw - just thinking out loud.

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Korea needs a containment board

>> No.17784913

>>17773309
i really liked your picture OP, i think it has a somber and horrifying beauty

>> No.17784914

>>17784910
No.

>> No.17784919

>>17784869
Take sleeping pills.

>> No.17784920

>>17784869
Just sleep

>> No.17784922

>>17784913
It’s just the standard and generic painting?

>> No.17784924

>>17784919
It won't help

>> No.17784934

>>17784906
yeah, if i think about how bad my parents were i get a pang of resentment. on the other hand they encouraged all kinds of artsy creative shit at least. my mom has an mfa. and did productive craft shit like pottery and weaving. i saw some anon on here having his mind blown by learning the basics of drawing at like age 30, so when i get resentful about how lame my parents were about a lot of stuff, at least i had a culturally rich life even if the only guidance i got was on perspective and crosshatching and shit. but they were a little hippyish so they prob figured raising me in a old house a big yard and woods out back, and a studio for clay sculpture and pottery in the basement and a studio for painting in the garage my childhood would be great. well it was, but you have to live another 60 years after childhood is over too.

>> No.17784937

>>17784922
did you look very closely at it? its title is "The Burning of the Houses of Lords and Commons"

>> No.17784946

>>17784937
So the standard and generic painting

>> No.17784961

New thread
>>17784926

>> No.17785032

>>17784906
Personally, I’m not sure my parents taught me anything. The only things they ever pushed me to do are things that I pretty much regret and they discouraged me from doing anything I feel like would’ve worth doing. My mom especially pushed me to do things that are actually kind of psychologically damaging and caused me a lot of problems. They raised me into an otherwise upstanding person I guess. I’m polite. I’m nice. I work hard. I have a job. I still hate myself but any stranger would say I’m decent enough. Still, most of the really important lessons about life that I learned, are things I learned not to do from them. My mom’s been divorced multiple times. My dad, the same. Both of them cycle through partners like water. One is terrible with money. The other terrible with people. Both very self centered and like to preach. I don’t resent them for being flawed people or anything but I do resent a bit both their lack of awareness about their flawless and their total willingness to give advice in that context. You know? If it were me and I had been through multiple failed marriages and hadn’t seen my kids in over a decade, I certainly wouldn’t give my kids relationship advice telling them to do the same shit that I did. A lot of times, I feel like everything I’ve ever learned I’ve learned from trial and error. Unfortunately, that means in my 20 something years here now, I’ve piled up a lot of errors and not a lot of the contrary. It would’ve been nice if I had someone who could’ve helped me get some successes from their failures is all.

>> No.17785076

>>17784910
They're busy taking over the music industry and crashing other platforms tonight.

>> No.17785559

>>17784579
Clarity

>> No.17785619

>>17784906
>>17784934
>>17785032
Life is a losing battle. The youth of today's parents have notoriously failed them en masse, with a handful of exceptions. Be grateful for what you may be taking for granted and compensate for their failure by consciously forging your strength of character.

>> No.17786084

>>17784677
honestly I've studied Japanese lit and it's simply horrible compared to any western period
there's some nice thing here and there but it's not comparable to the western canon

>> No.17786730

>>17783688
I will probably visit a logopedist when I'm in college, though I've heard mixed experiences from people who've been there. I've been doing some practice at home, but I think I've actually gotten gum infections from that. Idk.
>Have you thought about what the core of this insecurity is?
My dad is sometimes annoyed and tells me to talk slowly. When I talk to people I often have to repeat myself. But I don't have any childhood traumas or anything like that. I actually don't think I even had that sort of problem when I was a kid, or maybe I just didn't notice it back then.

thanks for the info. Sounds like your friend is a confiden guy.