/lit/ - Literature

sounds interesting. make the main characters men.

yay, more drug smut

>>17776930
Is cocaine really so hard to find?
is that the point?
if so you should establish the characters well. it doesn't sound like they'd be oblivious to know they can't just go to a bar and ask around for coke. or are they?

>>17776930
throw all of that away and do some ketamine

>>17776930
Drugs like cocaine are totally passé. The Gen-X's totally milked drug-lit dry too.
That said, just write it and see if you like it. There are worse hobbies to have.

>>17776968
They know they need to get it on the street. They’re level headed people by normal standards who just don’t understand the drug scene at all (being totally straight edge) so much of the dark comedy comes from them witnessing how insane, stupid and ridiculous the world of drugs can be but still pursuing that cocaine.

I have an idea for them to go to a nearby city for the climax where they plan to get the cocaine, I just don’t know how to get them there. My problem as a writer is I can’t structure or connect things like at all.

>>17776970
Never tried it, but I’ve signed up for a ketamine clinic because I have depression. Speaking of ketamine, would it be common given the setting?

>>17776930
I like the idea. Doing drugs is a nice touch but also go to wack parties. The more experience you have the better the story will be.

>>17777004
sometimes dealers like to sell ket instead of coke to trick you (ketamine is way cheaper). It could be pretty funny to have them suffer from the same situation and you'll get it once you try ketamine. It's also easily accessible because all you need is to buy it from a veterinarian so it could go with the whole small town story

>>17777004
>Speaking of ketamine, would it be common given the setting?
No. ketamine didnt reach america till the 2000s. it was a 90s UK drug.

>>17777019
>>17776970
>t. has never done ketamine

>>17776930
I would read this. Just write it and see how it turns out.

>>17777036
enlighten me please

>>17777019
Awesome. That’s an amazing idea you beautiful motherfucker. I can’t get ketamine outside of a clinic so maybe I’d have to either use other peoples accounts (which would suck because my favorite part of writing is out of the box description, that shit Stephen king calls “telepathy” in on writing) or get into that clinic.

>>17777008
I think I’m done with drugs for now. Shrooms (1/8) made me almost kill my neighbor (maybe, I have no idea after the fact wether I’d have done it. I was pretty excited to do it at the time), 280mg mdma made me dance like fucking mad for like 8 hours and I couldn’t eat or drink, and meth downright put me in the hospital (had 1/4 gram at once). That was all in the last week. I need to decompress.

>>17777038
Awesome. I don’t think I pitched it well, I have great ideas and I think my attempts at writing in the past turned out great even if I pretty much just copied Stephen king minus some of his weird old boomer shit. Should I post some concepts I have?

>>17777060
Ideally to best write a story like this you need to do the drugs until they become boring. The thing is with anything drug related if you're not conveying from the most authentic pristine viewpoint of what this underbelly looks and feels like, your story is gonna miss the mark. You really need to dive in deep to the subculture, feel the misery, get its teeth in your skin, and then you can articulate it into fiction. When you just get a taste, it can cloud your viewpoint. >>17777008 This anon has it right.

>>17777079
I don’t really want to get addicted to drugs, but I have been around plenty of addicts. I know it’s not the same, but I’ve spent years in and out of intensive inpatient eating disorder treatment, and yeah, I know it’s not the same but I think some of it translates. Either way these are characters who will likely only do drugs once or twice across the whole story, so most of it is them witnessing/interacting with people who are high.

My only “addict” character is an autistic guy who graduated from adderall to small amounts of meth, both of which I have experienced (and I’ve had some intense use out of each on one or more occasions)

>>17777128
It could work then if you go the opposite way - show this drug underbelly as something stylized and cool, likely the way they'd see it as they were getting into harder and harder drugs, before the illusion falls.

Offer wine to people with a car. Steal car. You now have slightly less wine and a lot more car.

>>17777152
The idea is that they think cocaine is the only non-trashy drug. Yes, I admit that is incredibly unrealistic and shitty to pull as a writer, but I’m willing to have the main characters have that attitude.

I am making sure that with every character who we spend time with, we get to see, even if it’s just a hint, that they’re incredibly depressed, acting out, whatever.

>something stylized and cool

The original idea was an episodic story where every chapter our characters trade the substance from the last chapter for the new one (or deal with the “crowd” of a new substance) and each chapter would be a stylized tribute to that drug. Example: acid chapter has loads of subtle references to mkultra and the Manson murders, and our MCs are at some retards house while him and his brother try acid for the first time and have a bad time.

I don’t think I’ll work with that structure having only tried a handful of things though.

>>17777203
>I am making sure that with every character who we spend time with, we get to see, even if it’s just a hint, that they’re incredibly depressed, acting out, whatever.
A bit overdone no? I used to tour in a band, spent a lot of time at bunk parties doing shitty coke. What you realize after a while, after meeting so many junkies, is that a lot of them aren't depressed - they have good relationships, girlfriends, etc, but they're just fucking stupid. They're stupid and they just like getting fucked up, they don't introspect after further. They do their day shit, and at night, they do a few lines of illicit garbage. Of course there are the downward spiraly people, but for a lot of them ,it's almost a hobby. I think this would fit too given the tone you want to hit.

>>17777237
I more so meant they’re depressed even if they don’t realize it, but yeah your anecdote is gonna come in handy. If you want I can link my reddit (which contains some posts about my history with drugs) and we can chat?

Sorry I’m just realizing I’m in no way equipped to write, and if I were to ever attempt to create this ambitious project I’d do it a disservice.

>>17777250
>Sorry I’m just realizing I’m in no way equipped to write, and if I were to ever attempt to create this ambitious project I’d do it a disservice.
Part of the writing process. They say in order to make a good movie you first need to make 5 shitty ones. So I'm sure something of the sort applies to writing novels as well.

>>17776955
Fpbp

>>17776930
Sounds like something id like to read.

>>17777350
I’m actually not going to do this. I’m sorry I’ve got some mental health issues that I’m working through, I can hardly be called an adult, I have zero confidence and I can’t write. I don’t know enough and writers are people who see things others don’t, that’s not me. All my excuses. Im sorry this was my reason to live for a day or two now I have to find something else.

Seriously, can you imagine someone like me writing this? A manic depressive schizo? It’s be garbage. I’d have put myself out there and got burned. I wouldn’t survive.

>>17777385
dude just stop thinking about it and start writing. it will be shit but its better than moping about it on an image board. write it. it's gonna be shit. then you read it, and re-write it. and you fine tune it until its good. stop being a little bitch. just start throwing shit at the wall and see what sticks. post excerpts here and get feedback. just go fucking do something.

>>17777405
The sign hung above the front door said “Support your local yokel!” followed by “Locally sourced!”. The second part was technically true. The Meswaki Menagerie didn’t share the dirty little secret that most pet stores were shipped live reptiles packed together like dehydrated sardines. Instead, the small business used its owners veterinary bachelors degree as leveredge to scoop up the animals that the staff of nearby big box stores considered goners. Technically, the animals came from a local source and so the bold text wasn’t a lie, just business.
The first part of the sign is what pissed Kathy off because it was a little more personal. Both small businesses and self deprecating humor had the unfortunate stigma of being honest. After three months at her part time job she learned the hard way that your local yokels were no better equipped to care for the animals unlucky enough to be bred into the pet trade than anyone else. Three legged lizards and turtles with their eyes crusted shut were carted into the store every other week and most didn’t live to see the next batch. These animals didn’t receive the same attention from activists as the ones at Petco because in their minds obviously the critters were better off at the run down mom and pop pet shop that was once a convenience store. The store, however, never claimed to be humane, it only implied it by virtue of not being a chain.
Meswaki valleys very own animal emporium still felt like a convenience store, not just because of the cigarettes that remained behind the counter, but because of how it sold animals with reckless abandon. Customers generally didn’t know a thing about how to care for their pets, and yet the rural town went through them like shit through a short dog. One day Kathy would ring an older gentleman up for a russian tortoise, and the next day he’d come in trying to get a refund because the poor thing didn’t survive a night spent in a bucket of water on his back porch. “Adopting” a pet was a process akin to buying a can of chew because for the average valley hick neither one was a long term investment.

>>17777405
>>17777424

I’m sorry at this point this has become more about my perpetual cycle of finding a retarded reason to live, being a bit manic about it then giving up. The excerpt above was written two years ago on paper in an eating disorder inpatient center after reading Stephen kings “on writing”.

I’ve never had commitment. I’m not trying to mope. When shit gets bad I just sort of start saying shit like this, and it’s hard to stop. I end up posting shit like this all over reddit, getting banned from here, etc. I’d rather find a good writer who I can just feed these ideas to so I can get these stories I want to read but can’t write because I’m a mentally ill 20 year old manchild.

>>17777424
honestly not bad. it needs to be cleaned up though. some sentences are a bit awkward and the tense is muddy.
>The first part of the sign is what pissed Kathy off because it was a little more personal.
This one sticks out as both too "X because Y", and it's also both past and present tense.
>Both small businesses and self deprecating humor had the unfortunate stigma of being honest.
This is also a bit unclear. Not sure there is a stigma with self deprecating humor

That said I like the content. It's an interesting aside and I'd like to see where it fits into a larger piece. Even on its own its a nice little. You have some good one off lines that give the piece a unique feel too. I'm too drunk to give a really thorough analysis this is just what sticks out.

just keep writing man. your ideas are really good. the actual prose will work itself out with refine and just writing more. post in the feedback threads here, work on it, continue reading, and keep improving. good luck anon.

>>17777424
It needs work but honestly, I'd read your story. You should go for it.

>>17777424
I'm >>17777492 & >>17777008. I will get on my laptop and write a few points about your bit. See you in a few minutes.

>>17777465
I want to make this clear: posting here today was one of the biggest mistakes I’ve ever made in my life. As soon as I get 4chan involved in anything it’s ruined for me. That’s kind of how my eating disorder started.

I’m not going to use this hobby to try and be someone anymore. I won’t engage. It’s a combo of having sort of blown my load by sharing this (got the ideas out there, cleared the tension of keeping them private, they’re no longer exciting or interesting), knowing how limited my own ability is, and now that magic telepathy is gone, it’s also important to note that I haven’t been able to write like this for years. I’ve held onto this excerpt from a longer chapter (the rest of which isn’t great, just a sociopath tasing a rat to death in his car after buying it for his birthday) to prove I know what I’m doing but I never do any writing.

Writing is just kind of done for me now. It’s another 4chan thing. It’s another thing you assholes (no offense) have taken because you’re all so cynical, and even if you were all supportive you still saw it. I can never see it as mine ever again. I am selfish. I am an egotist.

I’m really sorry. Everything I do is mental illness incarnate.

>>17777516
Fuck you. Honestly, from the bottom of my heart. Fuck you. Don’t.

>>17777536
As you wish, it's your story. You shouldn't come crying here just because you're insecure.

>>17777531
holy fuck if this isnt copypasta this is masterful
take your meds man lmfao

>>17777536
As you wish, no need to be so rude.

>>17776930
Drugs

>>17777562
I admit I’m insecure and I made a mistake, but honestly I shouldn’t be engaging in a hobby with the intent to eventually publish anyway. If I can’t handle even positive feedback. I just can’t handle people knowing. I just don’t know where I go from here, writing was my only thing I held onto as my excuse for why my brothers are going to Berkeley and some Ivy League place while I’m a neet who can’t be allowed near my own money, guns and prescriptions. I was just feeling good for the first time after my meth binge and the afterglow just went away.

>>17777570
No it’s not copypasta. I just go into this shit every time. One time I went into a rant about how pugs running is unfair because I’m depressed. It’s laugh or cry. Textbook “can’t handle adult life” shit.

>>17777622
honestly the amount of autism behind these posts tells me you may have a shot as a writer

>>17777531

>>17776930

>>17777531

>>17777622
>honestly I shouldn’t be engaging in a hobby with the intent to eventually publish anyway
You are absolutely right. I don't want to go into details because you have shown that you don't need positive nor negative criticism, but this anon >>17777631 is kind of right. Wrighting for publishing is for absolute faggots anyway.

>>17777631
I’m not autistic. I don’t know what I am. In middle school to prove I had a learning disability in math they did some four intelligences test and put me at the 91st percentile in social intelligence.

Just by me giving out that information you know what kind of person I am. I’m being more open now than I am with my own family. I don’t believe I’m autistic, but I’ve posted here before and you all tore down my diagnosis of being schizoid. You said I was bipolar. Then again it wasn’t literally you, that’s my mindset. I just see 4chan as one pool of honest, cynical pieces of shit.

I apologize

>>17777673
take your meds man.
or dont and keep writing. you might be onto something good. why not put these rants into a diary?

>>17777673
>emotionally intelligent
>feels the need to apologize to 4chan

Something doesn't add up here

>>17777673
You're clearly mentally ill enough to produce great literature. I've really enjoyed reading your posts in this thread. You have this amazing mix of total narcissism and total self-loathing—like you're the only person in the universe and you suck. This along is enough to make you a potential literary genius. Write more unhinged odes to your own inadequacy—I'll buy the book!

>>17777689
I don’t have meds. Prozac put me into a nightmare depression I’ve never returned from, and that was after I was in the hospital in bed for a month with anorexia. Effexor and remeron, bupropion, Zoloft etc did nothing.

I thought everyone could hear my thoughts so I got on vraylar. I had hormone issues so they put me on clomid. My testosterone went from near zero to 150% of average. I thought I was a god, and they upped my vraylar but that shit just zapped me and I haven’t taken anything but street drugs and adderall (all sparingly) since. I won’t medicate with street drugs, this last week I almost killed my neighbor with a samurai sword while on mushrooms, and even took a picture for use in court later. No good. Fuck drugs.

I can’t write well, we established this. If I wrote the book it would come out like these rants. If I want to be known and respected none of this can come out.

>>17777757
Go right your fucking book in one fucking sitting right now.

>>17777757
dude im serious you need to stop wasting this shit on 4chan. go start a blog and catalog this shit. then use it for your writing. this is gold.

>>17777757
>You'll never be respected, but if you kill some people with a samurai sword and publish a crazy book you'll at least be "known."

>>17777748
Mental illness never produced good literature. If you’re all vultures, and you want to pick out my waxy, egg white melted eyes and choke it down because I just exposed myself to the public and got burned alive and could never publish as a serious author again, you still wouldn’t like it. How much of my personality gets through with my passage? None. I want to keep it that way. I don’t like myself, but I at least want to be respected if I publish. I act on selfish impulses and only look out for myself but every conscious thought I have about myself is hatred.

>>17777841
>Mental illness never produced good literature
You clearly need to read more

>>17777841
>pick out my waxy, egg white melted eyes
That's great! You can definitely write. Also mental illness produced lots of great literature. Although many great writers were perfectly well-adjusted.

>>17777836
That’s an innocent person dead for no reason. I switch between total ambivalent schizoid shit (I have a 100% flat affect all the time) and crying for people all the time as of the last ten or so days. Now when things get serious, I can’t just not care. I can’t hurt someone, I never would. You’re all worth so much but I’m not. Plus that’s the rest of my life in prison. I wouldn’t survive. I’m a faggot. I look like a faggot too. Going to prison would mean endless boredom and having to play by a complicated social game akin to getting your pretty boy faggot face smashed in with a mop wringer so hard you swallow your teeth like all those goddamn benzos as soon as you accidentally slight any given inmate.

>>17776930
>>17777004
lmao OP where do you live? there is no dark underbelly that is exposed to clients, you buy your 8ball and thats it.

>>17777885
Dude you should write! Your prose is great. I'm sorry you're so unhappy—but you're definitely talented.

>>17777885
Are you serious or are you mocking us? It reads as if your purposefully write something good and pretend to be a depressive fag just to mog us. If it was bait from the beginning, I took it like a fish.

>>17777909
No this is all bullshit. I’ve lied. In lying though I’ve accidentally given away a good portion of my personality.

I’m well aware of how insane this all sounds. I do have that much self awareness. I have much more than you know, but not enough to properly assess my life, but then again that might be that mental illness thing again.

Everything I’ve said is 100% true, and isn’t anywhere near as bad as it gets with me (that pug rant is weird, and you should’ve seen me on 1/4 gram of meth. Isn’t that close to lethal for a first time or something?). I just kinda know how to channel my schizo. I actually wanted to write a book about Manson before that proved too daunting.

>>17776955
no

I have no idea wether or not you’re all calling my writing good to sort of poke me with a stick and get more out of me, or if you genuinely think it’s good.

It’s fucking insane rambling. I’ve been typing streams of schizophrenic consciousness with no aim, and no point. None of it is thought through. It’s impossible for it to be good because it’s word salad.

That’s the nature of 4chan, anyway. I’ll never know wether this is genuinely pretentious artfag mgmt fans who think the schizophrenic mind is beautiful, or people who milk lolcows dry.

>>17777777
what was it

>>17777970
>I’ll never know wether this is genuinely pretentious artfag mgmt fans who think the schizophrenic mind is beautiful, or people who milk lolcows dry.
A little of both. But I genuinely like your writing. It's not word salad—it really gives the reader a sense of a character (whether or not that's YOUR character). And there are some brilliant phrases mixed in—I loved "getting your pretty boy faggot face smashed in with a mop wringer so hard you swallow your teeth like all those goddamn benzos"

You have schizophrenia, I would know because your retarded ramblings are incredibly similar to mine early on the schizo train. It all started when I abused meth too, lmao. Meth induced dopamine sensitivity or something. You should stop doing drugs and you’ll begin to feel better after 2-3 years of prolonged sobriety. Still, some part of you will be permanently insane but you’ll be able to live a relatively normal fulfilling life. Schizo meds never worked for me aside from something called lamictal, may work for you, such is the nature of methamphetamine induced schizophrenia.

>>17777970
>I have no idea wether or not you’re all calling my writing good to sort of poke me with a stick and get more out of me, or if you genuinely think it’s good.
It's really good.
>It’s fucking insane rambling. I’ve been typing streams of schizophrenic consciousness with no aim, and no point. None of it is thought through. It’s impossible for it to be good because it’s word salad.
That's exactly why it's good. Whether you think it should be good is irrelevent.
>That’s the nature of 4chan, anyway. I’ll never know wether this is genuinely pretentious artfag mgmt fans who think the schizophrenic mind is beautiful, or people who milk lolcows dry.
It doesn't matter, stop thinking so much about the opinion of this website.

The only think I have to say is that it's obvious that you are making some stuff up. But your writing is good.

>>17777981
I still don’t know if you’re lying. I know if I was on 4chan I’d enjoy my writing because I’m both of those things, but I’d never tell the schizo to make a fucking novel if he’s unable to write actual prose and admittedly never wants to write again.

That pretty boy faggot thing is really flat. It has a little color to it, some impact, some mystery but none of it works well enough to be used seriously. It only works in this specific context where I’m trying to shock, build upon my identity as a faggot, and add mystery with hints with the benzo thing.

None of this is publishable. None. I’d probably burn or delete my own book over and over again.

Here’s that court photo by the way, censored of course. Maybe this is my angle? Being this schizo who can almost harness it but too much comes out? I’ll die before I can publish though. If that becomes my identity and I allow myself to be like this I’ll probably almost stab a Floridian tweaker again on a Shizo journey for “inspiration”

>>17776930
>Bonnie & Clyde as Taxi Driver
They stick someone up with a tampon

>>17778043
Get a haircut, hippy.

>>17778011
One hundred percent of this is true. A lot of it is just muddy because I’m not describing real events. I could give you a clinical list of my actions while I was on methamphetamine, mdma, LSD, etc but these are my thoughts I’m explaining, and even I don’t fully understand.

>>17777993
I have only used meth once but it was 1/4 gram. Idk if that’s a lot or not. I’ve requested my blood records from the hospital stay.

Please tell me there’s a way I can be like everyone else. Please tell me I can fit back into society. How are you doing? Have you been happy? Are you stable? Message me at lordd_humungous on reddit. Or give me another app or site and I’ll meet you there. I really want out of this right now.

>>17778043
it's obvious you looking to plagiarize bukowski and thompson, just show us your tits already

>>17778076
I have to say, I’ve only read a bit of fear and loathing and I had mixed feelings. He said he ate a whole acid blotter at the beginning, but I can’t buy that he thought the guests in the hotel bar were really these terrible reptiles and the floor was covered in blood. That’s too far. He’s an entertaining guy, but I think he took gonzo to mean he can lie about his subjective experience to white gentiles who call cigs death sticks. It’s only great when you read how the hitchhiker reacts to comparatively ordinary high people shit. Movie was really good, but I didn’t finish that either.

I have never heard of bukowski. If you gave me time I could list every book I read 100%, and it could fit on two hands probably.

>>17778109
10/10 you got me
sage

>>17778075
I sent you a message on leddit

>>17778076
>>17778109

Kujo
Siddhartha
The old man and the sea
The road
Misery
IT
the dark tower series
Lord of the flies
The hobbit
I think some shit called sulah? Maybe it wasn’t spelled like that.

Then the rest is just some school assignment shit. I’ve read parts of a couple things, but overall I just don’t read. I’ve never read for fun. I only seldom enjoy it. This is a soulless hobby.

Excuse me motherfucker

How do I archive this thread? I want to keep your hilarious bullshit forever.

Op here

I think I know the absolute best format that works with my brain chemistry. Short stories, a whole compilation of them. Maybe they all take place in the same town, idk. What if instead I wrote a bunch of drug related short stories? Like since I’ve only tried hero doses of shit, and am not an addict, it can be their first times?

I don’t know, that feels cheap and childish. Baby shit, and it can’t mean as much to the reader as one solid story. My original story was scatterbrained as fuck but maybe it could work.

One more question before I fall asleep:

Should I even write about drugs I’ve never taken? There’s this connection I have with LSD, MDMA and meth that I don’t have with ketamine, cocaine etc. it wouldn’t feel like it had soul even if the reader couldn’t tell wether my description is as “real” as something I have taken.

>>17776955

jajajajaja.

>>17776930

Not writing your books for you, pal.

>>17778410
Anyone writing about drugs even scholarly ought to have at least done them, and I say with with a full aversion to drugs myself. I can respect a Graham Hancock even if everything he ever supposed turns out to be false, because he at least tried to get in touch with the thing he's chasing better than academics who refute the idea of psychedelics playing a role in ancient traditions without having ever tried one.

>>17776930
no

>>17778499
Arigato. I think I’m probably still in the methamphetamine afterglow. This is hell. This whole world is a hell. It has been ever since a ball of fire struck across that blue sky over a little green island and all those terrible lizards erupted into fire and their tongues looked like beef jerky and their scales peeled and flakes off. It’s mass death, and I’m the kind of person who looks at death and says it ruins life.

>>17778521
God I’m going off. I’m fucking sick of it. I’m trying to impress you now, and it fell flat. I just don’t know what to do and the attention helped, and me saying what was really on my mind almost got me high again it feels like. This is fucked, what do I do???

>>17776930
>trading bottles of wine until you get cocaine
>girls wanting to do cocaine who haven't even drank before
This isn't realistic. Also, if you dont understand women, and especially if you haven't partied with women, you're gonna have a hard time depicting the true degenerate nature of a cocaine fueled women.

>>17778550
I’m not one of you, I don’t think women are all crazy retards, but I get what you’re saying completely. I haven’t established who these girls are, nor have I said what I plan to have them do with the cocaine.

Fucking drug degenerate. kys

>>17777004
You should have it one of the people they encounter while looking for drugs realises how naïve they are and then tries to manipulate them for nefarious purposes. Like they could send them to the city to meet a 'friend' of theirs to pick up coke but they're actually going to be kidnapped. But their own naivety, coupled with the incompetent opportunism of the criminals, is their salvation, and the whole thing unravels in the end in a humorous fashion. Focus on the absurd elements of the suburban worldview and it's coming into conflict with the absurd elements of the criminal world. It could be good anon.

>>17776968
Cocaine is among the most prevalent drugs, besides cannabis.

>>17777019
>sometimes dealers like to sell ket instead of coke to trick you (ketamine is way cheaper).
Sounds like complete highschool tier gossip bullshit.

>>17777531
>I haven’t been able to write like this for years.
>I’ve held onto this excerpt to prove I know what I’m doing but I never do any writing.

It's your own fault for not doing anything and expecting to magically get better. Yeah, it's time to face the music - your ability is limited. You did not have the courage to try, fail and try again until you learn. All those years have been wasted, along with your potential. You now have nothing.

>>17779630
>But their own naivety, coupled with the incompetent opportunism of the criminals, is their salvation, and the whole thing unravels in the end in a humorous fashion. Focus on the absurd elements of the suburban worldview and it's coming into conflict with the absurd elements of the criminal world.

Elaborate


>>17780076
And you think I don’t recognize that? Are you autistic?

youre still here OP?

>>17776930
what if it's set in 2020 and is about two sisters going to a trump rally, the day before their dad ran over a dog, one of them gets a text from her ex (whose baby she aborted) that he has hep c

>>17776930

Powder cocaine is actually not the most common in seedy street level dealing - it's more commonly sold by telephone/text orders or if in-person then they're usually found in bars or clubs.

You could play off this by them mistakenly buying crack (common in '93, although meth could also work if they're rural) and thinking that it's coke and trying to snort it. Crack is not nasally active.

That said this is a prime example of "write what you know". If you aren't already familiar with drug terminology and interactions it will probably end up pretty cringe.

>>17776930
>plotting
ngmi

>>17777019
where the fuck is ketamine way cheaper?
send me ketamine faggot

>>17777019
man I just read the rest of your post
you think vets just sell ketamine to people? fuck I wanna live in the stupid fantasy world you pretend to live in. it sounds sick. cheap ketamine straight from the vet ! I hope you don't talk out of your ass this much when it comes to other things too but you probably do

>>17777019
Everything about this post is wrong, I don't know what you were getting at exactly.

>>17777936
If you want to write, it shouldn't matter how bad it is (especially since the consensus is your posts display quality prose and interesting schizo shit).

Okay I won’t come back here until I’ve finished the first draft. I will write it though.

>>17781109
Okay. I’ll write while I’m still swinging between manic and depressive. I just need materials to learn from. Without actually reading a full book, what resources/templates can I use to make my writing/dialogue? I’ll change it up to make it colorful, I just need something to start with. Like a guide.

>>17780494
Okay, I can at least use that crack factoid

>>17780423
Yes I’m still here.


>>17780468
You’re the darkest biggest corn eating nigger I’ve ever seen

Make it funny as hell and it will be good.

>>17781770
I’ll try my best. I think comedy may be my biggest strength by far.

No more promises, lol, you’ll see it when it’s done.

Also I’d like to point out I won’t read another whole book before writing. Reading makes me boring.

>>17781024
it is? Where I live at least it's like 3/4 times cheaper
>>17781029
not every vet sells it like that you need to have a connection obviously, I know it's illegal you dimwit

>>17781049
here's some genuine advice. Befriend a vet and have him sell you bottles for a low price. Then cook it in your house for yourself.

How do I save an archive of this thread

>>17777004
>I have an idea for them to go to a nearby city for the climax where they plan to get the cocaine, I just don’t know how to get them there. My problem as a writer is I can’t structure or connect things like at all.

easy, her parents are out of town so after a movie night they go out, at first it seems easy by later the drug dealer ask them to hang out in a party, being naive girls accept the proposal, then want one of the drug dealers friends in the party want to take advantage of the hotter girl, then you can continue the story from there

>>17783412
Good idea. Do you have reddit?

>>17783451
>schizo man asking me if i have reddit

>>17783475
I’m lordd_humungous

>>17777000
Blessed quadtrips

>>17783396
its auto-archived. just remember OPs post number or something
>>/lit/

>>17783650
what do you want from me?

>>17777757
those fake drugs all suck. all you need anon is xanax or an opiate to set ya straight

>>17783879
I’ll try them

>>17776930
https://www.vice.com/en/article/3bjwww/i-bummed-a-cigarette-at-a-festival-and-traded-up-to-coke
This article may serve as inspiration

Nvm just figured out I literally have no passion for this whatsoever.

>>17784955
What’s the next best hobby to get value out of life? I’m basically mentally a vegetable and have no physical ability whatsoever,

>>17776930
Cool concept, goodluck anon

>>17776930
read a bunch of Greek myths until you find one you can shoehorn into your story. Never admit to it, obscure it. It will be funny

>>17785264
Ooh or do Dantes inferno, but instead of circles of hell have it be idiot American drug gang cliches. Actually fuck you im gonna write that.

>>17785278
I almost had that be the idea of the story, but now that I’m fucking done writing yeah take it

Seriously what about someone saying pointy crazy phrases made you guys think they could write a novel???

>>17785299
>Anonymous 03/14/21(Sun)21:42:01 No.17785299▶
>>>17785278 (You) #
>I almost had that be the idea of the story, but now that I’m fucking done writing yeah take it

Cheers lol

>Seriously what about someone saying pointy crazy phrases made you guys think they could write a novel???

Comedy is half ground game. you need those zingers kid, go watch some Iannucci

>>17785315
I understand comedy well enough to make things funny, I just don’t inherently have a passion for writing the way you guys do. I’m not a reader, but I do love Stephen kings writing. I just don’t think I’m suited to write. Writing feels like a minefield. I desperately don’t want to fuck it up, and even though I can easily adapt to liking and understanding it’s qualities as a medium, I can’t shake the feeling I’m only resorting to it in hopes my writing is popular enough to get adapted to a new medium.

Writing is nice, I understand why you’d prefer it over every other medium, I might prefer it over every other medium, but I’m not an artist and I can’t write and I don’t read.

Dropping to say “write what you know.” Why would you set the story in 1993? Unless you were a teen or older then.. which I don’t think you were

>>17785330
Write a screenplay?

>>17785337
No I’m 20 years old. I just know that that specific date lines up with some shit that’s relevant/fun for the story, and I’d fucking despise writing what characters text to each other, or how they found people on the internet, etc. It also makes it easier to have uninformed characters, to have characters get stuck without being able to call for help immediately, etc.

Maybe a crutch, maybe an autistic faggot idea.

>>17785355
If you write a story set before you were born it’s going to be obviously inauthentic.

>>17785343
How do I do that? I have no idea how that works at all. Seriously.

Plus, if I’m writing, zingers, colorful descriptions, etc are what I actually like about text. It’s telepathy. I forgot to mention I read some lovecraft and even though yeah he was autistic and insecure, his short story about the color from outer space changed my perspective on art eternally.

>>17776955
This, would not read if they were women

>>17776930
they must be raped

>>17785359
Not necessarily, at least I don’t think. I don’t see what was so big but subtle and impossible to observe/capture about 1993 that I can’t possibly put in my novel.

>>17783671
sex

>>17785371
You’re using pre-internet setting as a crutch because you’re not creative enough to write around it, or even use it to your advantage. And my point stands: it will be clear to a discerning reader, certainly anyone actually from that time, that it is inauthentic. Historical fiction is seriously one of the lowest forms of art

>>17785361
You just kinda do it. Get some software. Learn as you go.

>>17785365
>>17785370

I’m honestly the type of faggot who wants a “diverse” cast in a sense even though every character will be white besides maybe one, and it’ll be pointed out that it’s weird they aren’t white.

If I changed the MCs to male, then my autistic drug dealer meth head character will need to be female. Maybe that’s for the best though. If I’m not 100% sure about how to write females then having the admittedly weird asshole character be female may work out.

Also I now need to change names. My whole character naming scheme is based on gun companies (Benelli, character named Ben Ellis. John Moses marlin is the guy who found the company “Marlin”, so there’s a character named Johnny Marlin)

>>17785412
you don't know how to write niggers

>>17785412
Watch "Brick"

>>17776930
Some Joey diaz style rapist forces himself to eat out some ass

>>17785429
plus they still must be raped even if they are male

>>17785435
I love Joey Diaz

>>17785429
There won’t be any. It’s rural America. Just wiggers listening to a tribe called quest.

>>17785439
Gotcha

>>17785430
What’s that

>>17785499

Brick is a noir set in a present day high school.

>>17777424
I dont hate it m8, it was compelling

Just gotta get it all down, then let it sit and then go back and brutally edit

>>17785538
That’s not even the best passage. The only thing that sucks about the rest is there’s shitty dialogue. Wanna read the part where a sociopath tazes a rat to death? It shows my strengths way more.

Dialogue and stringing together moments are both my crippling weaknesses.

Here’s the good part you freaks. I’m actually about to start writing.

Sig pushed the door open with his shoulder and held it open with his shoe while he cradled the pet carrier carton in his arm on his way out of the menagerie. His eyes darted back and forth scanning for pedestrians until he realized how silly he was being. He’d told himself this was no big deal and now he was acting as if carrying the thing to his car was criminal in and of itself. He’d felt somewhat foggy for the past couple of days and so he blamed that.
He could hear the tiny skinny hands of the mouse scuttle across the cardboard floor of the carton, and could feel its weight shifting from one side to the other in a frenzy. He smiled with pursed lips as he put the box on top of his car and opened the door. He placed the mouse on the passenger seat and fastened his seatbelt.
Sig drove to the first intuitive place he could think of. The back country roads were isolated and just on the edge of town. If his chances of being seen by passers by were remote in the menagerie parking lot, he was invisible when he pulled over by the creek. Once again he grounded himself in his seat, closed his eyes and exhaled through his nose. He wasn’t smiling on the drive over and still wasn’t.
Cautious as always, he set the carton in his lap, exposing his birthday present to himself that it had been sitting on. A pink palm sized taser. He picked up the taser and turned it on with the press of a button. A small red light directly next to the trigger button flashed on and he placed his thumb over it like he was putting out a candle.
He put the taser down and undid the lid of the carton. The big white mouse stopped its obsessive pacing and looked up at sig, open eyed and mouth agape. While his prey sat dumbfounded with its nose in the air, Sig reached across his lap to pick the taser up and he once again placed his thumb on the trigger.
Sig slowly lowered the business end of the taser into the box. The mouse examined the jagged maw, twitching its nose into it with its whiskers wagging back and forth. Sig circled his thumb across the button. He could have let the suspense go on forever if he didn’t think he’d suffocate from holding his breath the way he had been unconsciously doing.
He applied steady pressure to the button. A thunderous crackling sound exploded from the taser as the mouses face was illuminated in a neon blue flashing light. It yanked its face out of the mouth of the taser and began to turn and run but Sig found himself slamming the prongs into its side and feverishly pressing the button again. The mouses body jolted and seized into a shape that resembled the Fibonacci sequence with its tail and spine curled inward.

1/2

>>17785574
Moar

>>17785562
For dialouge just have the conversations with yourself, if its shit hearing out loud will let you know. Have a cig and pace and have the convos

>>17785574
This is good. Reminds me somewhat of Bret Easton Ellis

>>17785585
Okay gimme some feedback and some tips on dialogue. I think this part is decent but not stellar at all. It’s colorful but it’s not intelligent as it could be.

Pulling the taser back out of the carton slowly, Sig felt like his blood had run cold, and a jolt of Adrenalin ran from the top of his head down his back. He looked at the dead thing in the box for a moment, smelling the dirty burnt odor that had filled his car. Once again he thought he could let this moment carry on forever, but the high was fleeting. Back to business.
As he got out of his car he found it difficult to handle the carton as his fingers were still trembling. His legs felt stiff, mechanical and like they were shivering jelly at the same time. He shut the door with his hip and stepped down into the ditch on the side of the road. He made his way to the creek and shook the mouse out of the box and into the clear water.
When he got home he dumped the carton in his neighbors recycling bin. His mother was not home and he was thankful for that because it meant he could unwind.
He poured himself a tall glass of strawberry milk in the kitchen and kicked his shoes off on his way to his bedroom. Sig fell onto his bed and propped his hands behind his head. He hadn’t yet given himself his best (albeit late) birthday present but the setup was almost complete. Maybe he had been a little too dramatic too fast, but that was okay because she was charmed by it. Like welding two pieces of cold steel, they both had to be warmed until they were soft and malleable before being pressed together. Tsun tzu said you cannot achieve victory without exposing yourself.
Before he could go over his next dialogue with Kathy again, he began to feel the blood rushing from his head as though he had stood up too fast despite his lying on his bed. His fingers curled until his head rested on two fists, and he closed his eyes. The pulleys and cogs started turning in the wall that his bed was against. As usual, he ran his fingers through his hair and slowly sat up. Sig took a deep breath and opened his eyes before taking his strawberry milk with him to the kitchen and turning on the radio to block out the grinding, pulsing machinery.

2/2

>>17777424
Just need to clean up the sentences a little but this is interesting.

>>17785592
>>17785574

Every time I read this I know I could make it more fun. I want my reader to have fun. That’s why kujo is my favorite book of all time. Every paragraph is fun.

I should have compared that nuked furball floating down the river to a Viking funeral.

>>17776955
indeed

>>17785592
See>>17785590

Its got a good flow man. I cant do the writing for you, and im not sure how this fits in with your larger narrative but your-prose has a flow and you get this character and his thought processes (its dark but also darkly funny,the phrasebuisness end of the taser and the strawberry milk made me genuinely lol, but in a black comedy way)

U dont need feedback from us, you need to sit ur ass down and write. Writeand write and write and overwright until you have a massive tome. Once u prune that (or work with/have a professional editor or friend you trust do it) i have no doubt there will be something worthwhile there

>>17785614
Arigato nigga. I’ll start on it now. I just have no idea when my writing is good or not. Chances are I’ll bring the 200 page version to an editor and they’ll tell me to gtfo. Anyway, thank you. I’ll stop coming here as soon as this thread dies, then return when the book is finished and maybe even just drop a whole chapter and see if anons buy it on Apple or whatever.

>>17785630
Godspeed anon

This is going to be good. I was so down, I had no motivation, then I started writing and my heart rate went up. It alone turned me manic. I busted out the greatest shit I’ve ever written bar none, which isn’t saying much but it makes those last passages boring by comparison. I’ll share these new pages with my family, then I’ll finish the whole book before I let someone else see it. See you then.

Au revoir, pussycats.

>>17780494
Best post ITT, OP is a cringelord who tried coke for the first time and is having delusions of grandeur about writing a great work of fiction about a topic he knows nothing about

Your prose feels stilted and tedious to me, at least rhythm-wise. You need to vary your sentence type/structure more to have a better flow. It's not bad, but it needs editing/revising.
Read it out loud, you'll see what I mean.

>>17785574
>The mouses body jolted and seized into a shape that resembled the Fibonacci sequence
lmao

>>17786989
sadly this
I hate incel drug poseurs who stumble upon drugs and mistake them for originality or a substitute for "experience"

>>17787439
You do understand that one of the important details here is that our main characters won’t try drugs in the story, and that drugs won’t be glorified?

If writing about drugs period is a bad thing then fine. You’re allowed to hate motherfucker.

writing, like all creative hobbies
requires discipline
OP is a drug addict

>>17788291
I’m literally not. ITT a lot of people are getting on my case for not knowing enough about the drug scene.

>>17776930
>>17776955
Make the characters men. Try make some fucking dump connection with how men abuse drugs as abuse is the epitome of the male mind and make profit from libs sucking your cock for making something so brave

>>17785574
A lot of your sentences start with "he".