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What are some good books on secret societies, occult cults and the like?
I want something that gives this Eyes Wide Shut feel of misterious, unkown forces controlling things behind the curtains.

>> No.17764082

The Damned by Huysmans.

>> No.17764081

>>17764066
If you live in a big city, chances are your local representatives go to these parties.

>> No.17764089

Illuminatus trilogy
Manly P. Hall, Secret Teachings of All Ages
Colin Wilson, The Occult
Webb, Occult Underground
Carroll Quigley, Tragedy & Hope, Anglo-American Establishment
McGowan, Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon
The Creature from Jekyll Island
Rigorous Intuition
Them: Adventures with Extremists

>> No.17764102

>>17764066
Can some one explain this movie to me? I was totally confused when it ended and I think I missed the point.

>> No.17764113

>>17764089
Add Behold a Pale Horse

>> No.17764123

>>17764102
Upper middle class guy forces his way into secret society party. Big no no so he makes up for it by selling his daughter.

>> No.17764188

>>17764089
Thanks anon, will check them out.

>> No.17764357

>>17764081
Even in small towns tbcdesu

>> No.17764387

>>17764123
>by selling his daughter.
wait what ? i never saw that

>> No.17764401

How come nobody mentioned Foucault's Pendulum yet?

>> No.17764413

>>17764387
It's just the anon making an extreme assumption over the subtle symbolism at the end of the film, which shows the daughter being followed by two older men (who were at the party).

There's also the themes of selling out your daughter and sexuality in general throughout the whole movie. But these are themes to be focused on and reckoned with, the anon is just being overconfident in connecting the movie to irl conspiracies so he assumes Cruise's character sold his daughter.

>> No.17764489

>>17764413
Desu it makes perfect sense for precisely the reasons you mentioned.

>> No.17764501

>>17764401
cause it sucks

>> No.17764520

>>17764489
You can't assume that, many people just assume that he got a warning and was kept out of the cult. And the fact that the prostitute sacrificed herself for him, seems to suggest he wouldn't have to sacrifice his daughter or something far more removed from the story like that.

>> No.17764762

>>17764520
The fact that sacrifice is at all involved should tell you enough about the nature of their cult.

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>>17764089
>>17764113
Good recs from what I’ve read of this. I’d also add Senator John W. DeCamp’s “The Franklin Cover-Up”.

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>>17764762
How does this have anything to do with Cruise sacrificing his daughter?

>> No.17764781

>>17764775
It means that the cult obviously deals in blood, and sacrificing children wouldn't be beyond the norm.

>> No.17764794

>>17764066
The Cyclist Conspiracy by Svetislav Basara,

>> No.17764841

>>17764066
Jean Ferry's short story collection (and only fiction writing ever published) The Conductor and Other Tales is pretty amazing and is pretty close to what you want. Here is an article with the beginning of one of the stories, called “Kafka, or ‘The Secret Society"

>Joseph K —, around his twentieth year, learned of the existence of a secret, very secret society. Truth be told, it is unlike any other association of its kind. Some have a very hard time gaining admission. Many who wish ardently to do so will never succeed. Others, however, are members without even knowing it. One is, by the way, never entirely sure whether he is a member; many people believe themselves a part of this secret society when they aren’t at all. Although they have been initiated, they are even less a part of it than many men unaware of its existence. In fact, they were subjected to the trials of a fake initiation, meant to distract those unworthy of actually being initiated. But it is never revealed — not to the most genuine members, not even to those who have reached the highest ranks in the society’s hierarchy — whether their successive initiations are valid or not.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/books/the-conductor-and-other-tales-by-jean-ferry/2014/01/15/cd4591b8-7d1d-11e3-95c6-0a7aa80874bc_story.html

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>>17764357
the greater good!

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17764958

The Crying of Lot 49 had a little bit of that, but it's not really what you're looking for. I'd recommend the movie Society if you haven't seen it.

>> No.17764966

>>17764501
Filtered

>> No.17764986

>>17764781
Sure, but that's nothing to do with Cruise actually selling his daughter. The movie obviously has real world parallels, but Kubrick wasn't going so far as to say "see this is exactly how it happens, now Cruise is going to sell his daughter off too!"

>> No.17764994

These Call of the Crocodile books are mostly about spooky cults. Probably the most similar thing I’ve read to eyes wide shut.

>> No.17765083

>>17764986
Idk it seemed a bit too on the nose for the ending to be just
>and then they lived happily ever after and the little kid got some nice Christmas toys

>> No.17765262

>>17764841
>>17764958
Nice, those look great.

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>>17764066
This one will do it

>> No.17765379

>>17765083
I think it was just following the themes of the whole movie, and the danger his daughter was in, or at least the importance she had for cruise in contrast with it.

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>>17764501

>> No.17765526

>>17765379
Right and we agree that his daughter getting taken as recompense would fit the theme, no?

>> No.17765530

>>17764994
This was a present surprise. Are the other books in this series just as good? Crocodile is the only one I read.

>> No.17765731

The Club Dumas or watch The Ninth Gate.

>> No.17766939

>>17764066
Masters of Europe - The Unseen Empire that Governs Governments

>> No.17766968

Jay Dyer's books, I guess. Esoteric Hollywood

>> No.17766997

John Silence

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>>17764066

>> No.17767060

>>17767005
This any good? I didnt know Evola was an author

>> No.17767089

>>17767060
Yes but it was written in the 30s so keep that in mind (and it shows how much worse it's gotten since then), Evola did the foreword iirc

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>>17767089
Guenon did a review of it as well, never knew that either. Il check it out anon

>> No.17767140

>>17767119
Good stuff, never knew that Guenon reviewed it either.
You might also want to check out Kerry Bolton, he has written books on these topics as well.

>> No.17767185

>>17767140
Thanks for the info

>> No.17767448

>>17764775
>>17764520
Lurk on /x more. 20 minutes of the movie were cut, were supposdly, a child sacrifice happened in the castle.
Also, this is known, the common interpretation at the end of the movie is that two men take aways cruise and kidman's children. Lots of symbolism like the pedo bear. Check explanations on the web.

>> No.17767477

>>17764413
It's not necessarily cruise character, but Kidmans, who gave the daughter to the cult. What's more, the kid is not necessarily given to a sacrifice, but will probably be used in sexual rituals,

>> No.17768754

>>17764066
Moonchild by Crowley
The Magus by Fowles
Masters of Atlantis by Portis is a funny spoof

>> No.17768809
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17768809

Really good one here.

>> No.17768811

The Talmud is a good foundation to understanding secret societies.

>> No.17768812

Call of the Crocodile

>> No.17768828

>>17764113
That one freaked me the fuck out

>> No.17768877

>>17768811
Based

>> No.17768886

>>17768809
That's the book Dan Brown plagiarized for The Da Vinci Code.

>> No.17768974

>>17764958
Society and The Void are two pretty fun cult/secret society movies.

>> No.17769160

>>17764066
Book of Enoch

>> No.17769237

Wilhelm Miesters Apprenticeship

>> No.17769322

>>17768811
>Just read 10,000+ pages of Judaic autism, goy!
Hard pass.

>> No.17769350

Foucault's Pendulum

>> No.17770474

>>17765526
If Kubrick put it in there, then sure it would fit, except one might say it doesn't match Cruise's character. But it isn't in the movie, and we're supposed to assume their family life continues after this.

>> No.17770478

>>17767448
>Lurk on /x more. 20 minutes of the movie were cut, were supposdly, a child sacrifice happened in the castle.
It's supposed 20 minutes were cut, and it's possible, but as to what the 20 (or 22) minutes were, we don't really know.

There's just guesses.

>> No.17770488

>>17764066
No.

>> No.17770648

>>17769322
That's, like, 10 days of reading at most.

>> No.17771170

>>17770478
Sure, but reminder that Kubrick was killed one day after having a clash with people who didn't want him to release the movie as it was supposed to be.

>> No.17771421

>>17764066
The Spiritist Fallacy and Theosophy: History of a Pseudo-religion

>> No.17771427

>>17769322
know thine enemy

>> No.17771478

To quote David Lynch, if you don't have final cut of a movie its not your movie.

>> No.17771490

>>17765083
Niggea they're freaked the fuck out at the end, they're literally doing all they can to pretend everything's fine. Fuck, read the book Kubrick used for the plot, shit's about desire and cheating.

>> No.17771710

>>17764066
it isn't what you are looking for but the novella the movie was based on is amazing

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>> No.17771728

>>17764066
Most people here are being influenced by the satanist occultists without even noticing which is a little funny.

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>>17764066
>>17771728
speaking of satanists..

>> No.17771811

>>17771170
I know the real world parallels EWS has, but it's just stupid to assume that Cruise sold out his daughter in the movie.

>> No.17772023

>>17764102
The fantastic stuff never actually happened. It was all in the guy's mind because he couldn't deal with the reality of his life and his actions; the lighting is the trick to figuring that part out. It's also a story about individuation very heavily influenced by the works of Jung.

>> No.17772412

>>17771811
Not Cruise, his eyes are wide shut. But Kidman, who is part of the cult. Or maybe they just took the kid without asking. They won't take it, like murder them, but abuse them, and mind control them.

>> No.17772425

>>17767477
>>17771811
The prostitute sacrificed herself so the cult wanted somebody to replace her.

>> No.17772491

>>17772412
You know, it could just be of thematic and psychological importance, rather than literally meaning old men are taking their daughter.

>>17772425
Lol, that just defeats the purpose.

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17772497

>>17764066
I haven't read it so I can't say if it's good or not. Read it and report back, anon.

>> No.17772508

>>17772497
Literal nightmare fuel.

>> No.17772528

>>17772491
What purpose?

>> No.17772587

>>17772528
Her sacrificing herself.

>> No.17772644 [DELETED] 

>>17772587
Yes she did, but the purpose?

>> No.17772706

>>17772587
Oh I meant that since she sacrificed herself the cult wanted somebody to replace her. It came out confusing, my bad.

>> No.17774392

Bump

>> No.17774546

>>17764102
It's about the Bohemian Grove and some of the shady shit that happens there.
It's not a metaphor or some 2-deep-4-u schlock, its a re-creation of some of the ceremonies and blows the lid on how America's rich and powerful sometimes murder hookers for fun.
Kubrick was a member and the occult hood stuff is a literal recreation of the Grove ceremonies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bohemian_Grove

>> No.17774593

>>17764066
Obvious choice is Traumnovelle (Dream Story) by Arthur Schnitzler, the book Eyes Wide Shut is based on.

>> No.17774609

>>17774593
But he's a yucky yucky jew in that one.

>> No.17774616

Sasha Grey wrote one.

>> No.17775428

Just another thread where I have to remind dumb anti semities that not all jews are rothschilds puppets. Some of them are pious.

>> No.17775605

>>17775428
Do those pious jews support ethnostates for whites like they have in israel?