/lit/ - Literature

>>17749019
because translations are written for the non-specialist public

that's pretty repulsive
who was the trans lator

>>17749019
“traduttore, traditore”

>>17749037
someone named a.c. spearing

the book is cloud of unknowing, btw.
I saw it on an anons bookshelf and thought I'd check it out. why are the early English translations so good and any post 1950 shit?

>>17749019

>>17749633
Lol wtf

these idiots need a job so they can make money by mutilating old texts to fit with contemporary vernacular zeitgeist. This isn't bad in itself, since language changes all the time, but we agree that making English genderless isn't a good type of change so it should opposed. We should add more gender to everything.
>>17749633
>>17749646
I'll get flack for this but the obsession Christianity has for making it's adherents admit to their own "sinfulness" all the time is self-refuting. Didn't Jesus die for my sins? If I go to confession and have had my sins wiped away, why do I still refer to myself as "sinner"? It's also needlessly harmful to people. This is a long-time coming, I don't care if it's new age or not. Christianity will be better off for it.

>>17749019
Academia is full of intelligent retards with inferiority complexes
>>17749073
>why are the early English translations so good and any post 1950 shit?
You know why, European culture died after the world wars.

>>17749633
based and valid

>>17749633
Lol. I still get a kick out of thinking someone really thought they needed to censor out Christian references

>>17749019
Why are you reading a translation of middle english? Middle english is easy to read after some getting used to

>>17749019
Does it really matter?

The goal of modern translations is to make it as accessible as possible to a modern audience.

I'd argue it doesn't change the meaning of the text.

>>17749762
exactly

>>17749713
How will you get flack for that very safe opinion? If anything you’d get flack for saying that sin is real and it’s a good thing to have humility before the long suffering god who allows us to live far beyond what our sinfulness deserves.
The fact that mankind continues to prove exactly how erring and weak he is, even at his most civilized, should at least make you think maybe mankind isn’t beyond sinful nature.

>>17749713
>quit focusing on flaws innate to existence as a human
>this will improve things
NGMI

>>17749759
>smart boi
Hey, everybody, we have a smart boi over here!

I feel you on that OP. my own pet peeve is when the translator writes a 30 page intro about how the person they’re translating didn’t even exist. I have an edition of Tao where the translator does just that in trying to disprove the existence of Lao Tze. At some point it’s just like “yeah I get it you don’t even like the thing you’re translating enough to think the author was real, move on”

>>17749813
take your meds

>>17749633
oh come on

>>17749633
>Sometimes I replace "Lord" with "Beloved" because I truly believe Teresa's lifelong devotion to her God is more accurately reflected in this mystical term...
ok whatever

>...which bypasses patriarchal connotations.
bitch what

>I have preserved the convention of Spanish mysticism to refer to the soul (el alma) in the feminine.
motherfucker

>>17749762
>I'd argue it doesn't change the meaning of the text.
If that were true, it would not have been done. It was done specifically to change the meaning of the text.

>>17749019
Because they are literary jannies with foreign language degrees with no native facility as belles lettres

>>17749633
I fucking hate feminist writers, they LOVE doing stuff on female saints, but they only have an interest in the fact that they were women, not what they were saying, so you get this kind of bullshit

I will also never understand w*men's attraction to systems of thought that don't require believing anything. It seems to be biological

>>17749762
>The goal of modern translations is to make it as accessible as possible to a modern audience.
>
>I'd argue it doesn't change the meaning of the text.
How retarded does one have to be to type this out in succession, one line contradicts the other within 5s.

>>17749713
Sure, Christianity is kinda cringe but that's not a reason to replace "mortal sin" with "grave error".

>>17749762
No regards to purity
Not a faithful man
Death to his honor

>>17749762
Obvious bait

>>17749895
>take your meds