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Has a single popular philosopher ever been more thoroughly discredited as Karl Marx?

>> No.17729364

>>17729351
Logical positivism

>> No.17729377

no no no, akshually.....

>> No.17729404
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>>17729351
>discrediting
>philosophy

>> No.17729421

>>17729351
he was more of a sociologist and economist, his philosophical interests seem to be in the service of those ends it seems

>> No.17729425

>>17729404
Absolutely this, all philosophy is literally correct.

I am waiting for the overman

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>>17729404
I mean the guy was predicting that all profit margins would shrink to zero and there would be a worldwide revolution because of worsening working conditions. This was completely off the mark.

>>17729421
Economists study the tangible, practical workings of an economy. Marx was just a theorist, and most of this theories didn't pan out.

>> No.17729468

>>17729351
A single popular philosopher has never been more misunderstood and unread yet still talked about than Karl Marx. Even most self proclaimed Marxists have not read Capital. Unless you have read all of Capital twice, read Grundrisse twice, and have settled yourself in the interventions and current debates around Marx around figures like Heinrich and Postone you do not deserve to have an opinion on Marx. This should be the standard for any major thinker by the way.

>> No.17729474

lol all of those threads seething about freud. nietzsche and marx. anglos just cant get over them.

>> No.17729479

>>17729452
>I mean the guy was predicting that all profit margins would shrink to zero and there would be a worldwide revolution because of worsening working conditions. This was completely off the mark.
>philosophy

>> No.17729488

>>17729474
all jews

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>>17729468
>you have to be read all this schizo's ramblings in order to formulate an opinion on him

>> No.17729495

>>17729488
wtf, I Iove jews now

>> No.17729496

>>17729468

Everyone says the same shit, KNOW ONE KNOWS WHO IS THE REAAAL MARX. Reading capital doesn't mean shit if you don't understand the economic terms he uses meant something different back then (ricardian terms, etc) and other contextual elements. Also there's young vs old marx, unpublished vs published marx.Your opinion is fucking gay and a repetition of things you've heard.

>> No.17729511

>>17729492

An educated opinion, yeah. You can have retarded opinions.

>> No.17729550

>>17729479
Yes, that qualifies as philosophy.

>> No.17729570

>>17729351
Foucault.

>> No.17729597

idealists amirite fellas

>> No.17730274

does reading about marx and some of his text and agreeing about some of his ideas but also agreeing with >>17729452 make me a marxist? I dont wanna be a marxist. Based Peterson has only talked bad about them and so has every other non-marxist like the entirety of american society

>> No.17730434

>>17730274
There's nothing of value in Marx. You can clearly see that with all the people it attracts - the lowest drudges of society, spiteful of the fact that no one wants any parts of them.

>> No.17730654

yeah, probably joe

>> No.17730673

>>17730274
"i am not a marxist." - marx

>> No.17730689

his economic predictions are bullshit but his philosophical ones get more confirmed each day, especially his conception of ideology. basically early marx > late marx