/lit/ - Literature

>>17720824
I have never witnessed anything as cringe as Yudkowski's writing.
I still enjoyed it

>>17720824
>Eliezer Yudkowsky
His invention of Rokos Basilisk was hilarious and still makes Nerdtards shiver with fear.
>Moldbug anyway still makes woketards seethe even though he too is suspicous because half jew.
>Scott Alexander
Is a leftie liberal but can't help but stumble into race realism sometimes only to quickly withdraw everything he just said.

>>17720824
>positions on Bitcoin back in 2013
which were...?

>>17720824
I appreciate their relative honesty in the current intellectual landscape, Moldbug especially. They are all clearly smart and inventive with the concepts they come up with, most interesting stuff from each are probably Yudkowsky's thought experiments about AI, Alexander's armchair sociology(toxoplasma, ingroup, etc), and Moldbug's 'cathedral'.

The main value I see with these guys is that they start discussions about stuff by identifying key concepts and presenting them in attention-catching ways, and they're fairly openminded about what sorts of ideas they'll entertain.

>>17720946
Why don't you go suck their dick you stu pid Redditor.

>>17721032
I have no idea what your post has to do with mine

>>17720895
>His invention of Rokos Basilisk
Pretty sure that was invented by Roko, not Yudkowsky. The latter actually banned it from being discussed on the site due to nerd anxiety meltdowns. I think Roko is still around and posts on twitter.

It's cringe if your entire worldview is rationalist blogs. But Scott is one of the best contemporary political and cultural writers and if you're not reading him you're missing out.

>>17721093
What are some good blogs to read who are opposites of these rationalists?

>>17721111
Rapture-kun’s (pbuh) blog is pretty interesting, carves out a type of radical democratic response to a lot of that material. A little all over the place, though

This tells you everything you need to know about these so-called 'rationality' types like Yuckkikesky.

>>17721156
Lol

>>17721156
Why it's true. They deny the genetic side of obesity because they deny and genetic influence in general because if they didnt they'd have to open the race can of worms too and they wont do that.

>>17721156
He lost his weight though.

>>17720824
the founder of Salo´s forum is an interesting guy, well read for sure

https://niccolo.substack.com

>>17720895
>Rokos Basilisk
>WUT IF MACHINE WER BAD OOOOOHHHH


this is the stupidest thing i´ve ever heard,

>>17721093
>But Scott is one of the best contemporary political and cultural writers

what type of insights does he have?

>>17721614
Rokos Basilisk is just a derivation of the doomsday argument
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQIB3-EtL1w&t=1s
both are based on Bayesian statistics

>>17721614
Causing mental breakdowns of autistic nerds with logic traps is a service to humanity though.

>>17721591
Didn't know he was a former Less Wronger. Not really surprised though since many Nrx and other right wingers seem to have been members or adjacent to it in the past.

Any person or organization that goes out of its way to claim its being very "rational" is usually not and is just desperately trying to legitimize itself. In these cases usually its because the "blogospheres" actually have an extreme ideological bent but they want to put the stamp of legitimacy on all their conclusions by saying "we're just being rational bro".
Its the default assumption that all people are attempting to be rational? Its kind of like repeatedly saying you're a good person. My instinct is to tend to think you're not one and you're trying to hide something or compensate for something.
Insisting you're "just trying to be rational" is a great Jewish rhetorical tool in an argument though because what you're really doing is saying "you're not being rational." Easy way to get under someone's skin. "Oh, in contrast to you, I'm just trying to be rational about this. Idk wtf you're doing. Its definitely not being rational though."

>>17721824
So what kind of behaviors or tendencies is 'rationality' trying to compensate for?

>>17720872
I feel bad for the man. Remember them censoring Roko's basilisks?

>>17720824
I look at LessWrong sometimes to see if there's anything worthwhile. More often than not I get turned off by the writing style (most of them write the same turdy way). I agree that something feels wrong about the posts there, in general. Some reflection posts feel unnatural/just done for the post. Some tech posts feel... fraudulent?

I still visit because I've gotten a few new ways of thinking about things.

>>17721562
He's still fat.

>>17720824
They are indeed cringe, but otherwise harmless.

>>17720824
quintessential midwit reading.

>>17720824
>theorycels

>>17720824
Yarvin isn't a rationalist. Read his essay on scott alexander on his substack.

>>17722004
overeating and morbid obesity

>>17720824
If you read some fiction by Yidkovsky, you will immediately notice that he writes like an edgy junior high student. His characters are shallow, transparent self-inserts that pwn their friends with facts and logic. Clearly a power fantasy and a retelling of some shameful memories in a way Yudcucksky wishes they have happened.

>>17723762
You don't know me.

>>17723748
Got a link?

>>17720824
Does anyone else here read Bayesian Investor?

http://www.bayesianinvestor.com/

>>17721562
>>17722868

>>17721627
He has some thought-provoking posts on modern culture. Most famously these two:

https://slatestarcodex.com/2018/10/30/sort-by-controversial/
https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything-except-the-outgroup/

>>17724453
nasty

>>17724453
i used to work out a high end gym in nyc and there some bourgeois secular jews who were always waxed, at first it seemed weird for dudes to have smooth legs, but once you realize the alternative you come to appreciate male grooming

I was usually indifferent towards Scott Alexander's writing although the posts I have seen I found fairly interesting.
However, the fact that the NYT and some weird Reddit communites:
(https://old.reddit.com/r/SneerClub/comments/lm36nk/old_scott_siskind_emails_which_link_him_to_the/ )
are now trying to cancel him solely based on the fact that he entertains "dangerous thought" drives me in the supporter corner.

>>17724504
i support anyone who has beef with the nyt. i always thought alexander was a little annoying just cuz his stuff would always get spammed on hn, but now i support him for telling the nyt to pound sand, although i still don't read his blog. i also support that chinese "maker" who had her sexuality doxxed by some nyt affiliated journalist even tho i don't care one fig about "makers"

>>17724453
Yeah, he's fat.

>>17724504
>https://old.reddit.com/r/SneerClub/comments/lm36nk/old_scott_siskind_emails_which_link_him_to_the/
This has to be the largest gathering of faggots I have ever seen on the internet, it's like the Reddit of Reddit

>>17724475
Don't forget Meditations on Moloch. Though I don't like Scott's hope that an AGI will save our asses. That would be bad end.

>>17722004
It could be literally anything since being rational is a virtuous quality in today's view. Again, usually when a blog or commentator today uses it though they're using it to shield themselves from the expected criticism that they're ideologically possessed and actually not very rational at all.

>>17724453
Why did you need to post this?

>>17724475
the first one is so fucking soi lol

>>17724627
because you need to understand what yud could do to your prostate if he chose to

>>17724243
https://graymirror.substack.com/p/scott-alexander-the-disappointed