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I feel indifferent towards animals and after reading this I wonder why am I so different from everyone else. Hunting and fishing has taught me it is okay to take the lives of animals when we desire to do so. Further, how could I respect an animal of inferior intellect or its right to life if the only reason for its continuous existence is merely the result of our choice not to seek its destruction? Whether we slaughter them for food, destroy their habitat for our own development, or kill them off for being a nuisance, animals have no inherent rights. How can you spay or neuter your own pets and claim them to be your equal? I see animals for what they are. I will never truly love or respect an animal the same way I do another person. i-- I'm not an android, I swear. Where do you guys stand on this?

>> No.17655480

>>17655461
I agree with you mostly. I don’t eat meat and the only way I would ever eat it in the future is if I caught and killed it. Mass meat production is the issue, I don’t think eating animals is inherently wrong, that’s nature, etc. I will never get the kind of people who always say they love animals more than people. I get dogs are capable of pure affection, which is nice, but they will never understand humans, you can’t converse with them or bounce ideas off them you can’t (see shouldn’t) have intimate relationships with them.

>> No.17655493

>>17655461
>I feel indifferent towards animals and after reading this I wonder why am I so different from everyone else. Hunting and fishing has taught me it is okay to take the lives of animals when we desire to do so. Further, how could I respect an animal of inferior intellect or its right to life if the only reason for its continuous existence is merely the result of our choice not to seek its destruction?
I agree that animals have no rights, and eating a dog is not any worse then eating a pig but I still love my dogs and could never eat one. I do think that they should be killed humanly.
>How can you spay or neuter your own pets and claim them to be your equal?
I think it's actually doing them a favor if you aren't planning on breeding them, otherwise they'll be horny all the time

>> No.17655922

>>17655461
I love animals.
I'm not a vegetarian, and I have no issue with people killing animals. They (as are we) are part of the same natural cycle. However, every animal has a desire to survive, and they feel pain. So I think it's an ethical imperative that humans, as a species that also doesn't want to suffer, to treat animals with a certain amount of respect. At the very least, with enough respect to make sure they don't suffer unduly before we kill them.
Domesticated animals (à la cats and dogs) are a bit different. They don't really fit into a natural ecosystem anymore, so to preserve that, they are spayed and neutered.

Also, animals being hurt makes me feel bad.

>> No.17655931

>>17655480
Damn, that's exactly, word by word, what I think too.

>> No.17655946
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>Plutarch - On Meat Eating
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Plutarch/Moralia/De_esu_carnium*/1.html

>Porphyry - On abstinence from animal food
http://www.tertullian.org/fathers/porphyry_abstinence_01_book1.htm