/lit/ - Literature

filtered: the thread

>>17647630
I don't go on twatter so I cannot post replies, but holy fuck I,d like to euthanize those dumdums

>>17647630
>mass literacy & education is peak atheism
>atheism is retarded

you shouldn't have started the french revolution, now you live in your own mess

>>17647703
good point actually. I wish we still had a cultural elite

Public school was a mistake

>>17647653
I wonder how many people who read BNW also read Island.

I entered this thread to shitpost about how they are right but my god this is heartbreaking. Someone should archive this.

>>17647731
based, giving everyone free access to the internet and books has just created such a clusterfuck of pseuds everywhere, all you have to do is look at youtube comments.

>>17647703
Writing and reading should be reverted to a magical art, like in Ancient Egypt. Switching from hieroglyphics to alphabets was a mistake (fuck the Greeks)

If you love your child you'll not send them to public schools. You can spend two hours with your kid every day no matter how busy you think you are and they will be better off for it.

>>17647630
>Some poor fuck had to read Atlas Shrugged in high school
Lol

People in general hate having to read and will come up with any number of excuses to justify not doing it. When it comes to the college-educated, who think they should be the smartest person in the room, their excuses simply allow them to maintain their intellectual or moral superiority.

It's not anything new, just the fashionable way to flavor it. Only a very small minority of people (even among the 'intelligentsia') actually read anything but NYT bestsellers and pop psychology in their own time.

>>17647630
>>17647653
>>17647872
>>17647865
Are these people really incapable of having a discussion on a work of art by not referring to themselves or there shitty worldview?

>>17647872
lmao

>>17647872
>cannot empathise with anyone elses struggle unless it is a direct reproduction of their own personal lived experience

>>17647872
That one got me, almost replied with my own lifestory.

>>17647630
Are people really actually like this

>>17647884
Did she quote the Nuremberg verdicts?

>>17647886
“Oppression” as we know it today seems to engender narcissism more than anything else.

>>17647886
He's gay. Gays are narcissistic to the point of solipsism.

>>17647884
>the intersectional nature of the multiplicity of your offenses
hard kek

>>17647886
If he is still in high school or fresh out of it, then that would actually be normal for his stage of development, teens are very focused on themselves. It depends on the person, but it's only around mid-twenties people completely grow out of it.

I hate America

>>17647924
this faggot looks like he's at least 30, its a real blackpill to realize a large part of the population has the introspection capacities of a child

>>17647630
China is winning.

>>17647872
cretin turner LOL

>>17647865
lol communist is in the hands of these people
>Lenin turning in his grave

>>17647865
That's what I've been telling Marxists all along, but they just tell me to go back and read the book again every time I get into an argument with them.

>>17647897
No, twitter is just 4chan for people with cluster b personality disorders and draws them in like this place does for autism and cluster a.

>>17647872
>being a physical labourer during the Great Depression is piece of cake compared to being a closeted fag
the sheer audacity of this faggot

>>17647897
Yes, but just americans

>>17647946
The pun is that the word creatine is in the name and he clearly works out given the shirtless pic. He is mocking trans people and his pun was already better than yours.

>>17647942
Let’s be honest, China won.

>>17647703
Why do you care so much about what these random people on Twitter think? For every one of these retards there are twenty people who got to read good literature and appreciated it and who wouldn't have been able to if not for mass-literacy. You're basically saying we should have removed their ability to do so just so people on Twitter couldn't say stupid things.

>>17647988
You realize he is trolling right? His name is fucking creatina. Do none of you retards lift weights? Personally I listed myself as non-tertiary gender plasma when I used to troll on twitter.

>>17647872
Genuinely can't tell if baiting or really that self-absorbed.

>>17648002
>I listed myself as non-tertiary gender plasma
And you are so proud of that you brag about it on 4channel.

>>17648002
I don't lift weights and I'm not an Anglo

>>17648009
I like myself anon.

>>17648014
You should lift weights. Exercise is basic personal hygiene like brushing your teeth.

>>17648019
No it's not. Cardio is what's really important.

>>17648002
I’ve seen the same sentiment expressed sincerely too many times that it feels worthwhile to respond to it as if it were sincere.

>>17648019
>You should treat your body like it's a robot
go to hell

>>17648002
Why do you think he's trolling? He seems pretty sincere/basic in his other tweets, with the regular conservative bashing

>>17648039
Work out fatty

>>17648039
The better you get at exercising, the better it feels to move your body. I'd do it just for the exercise euphoria afterwards.

>>17647703
There would be no Revolution had the Reformation not happened first.

>>17648050
>>17648060
I work out/exercise. Just don't see the point/health in lifting weights; doing repeated exercises of unnatural movements with added weight.

>>17648068
You fool, the Reformation occurred because of the printing press. There would be no Reformation without the printing press.

But wait, I'm a fool, there would be no printing press if it weren't for the Renaissance.
But wait, there would be no Renaissance if it weren't for the influx of Byzantine refugees carrying ancient Greek texts and knowledge.
But wait, there would be no receptivity to their knowledge if Catholicism hadn't already developed a primarily urban and liturgic culture in Italy
But wait, the Byzantine refugees would never have fled if it weren't for the Turks conquering Constantinople

blah blah blah
In the end it all comes down to the Ancient Greeks, blame them for everything we see today.

>>17647981
fair enough model

>>17648068
Martin Luther is in a very hot place right now inshallah

>>17648099
The chinese invented the printing press

>>17648105
Not in a form that could mass print and be mass produced

>french revolution
>protestants
Why are catholarpers so dumb?

>>17647630
t b h she's right about Lord of the Flies

>>17648029
>>17648081

You don't know what you're talking about. Strength training, most effectively done with barbells, has far better long term effects than something like running.

>>17648132
But only according to rip. Real doctors stress cardiovascular exercise infinitely more than weightlifting.

>>17648112
No one is saying that those who undertook the revolution were themselves Protestant. They're saying that the revolution itself would not have been possible without the series of condtions engendered by the rise of Protestantism.

>>17647630
>>Of Mice and Men killed the disabled guy, how ableist
Are people really saying this? It was a mercy killing to save him from being lynched after he murdered someone. They didn't just kill him for the hell of it

>>17647865
>Communist manifesto
>Hard to read
>Literally written with the intended audience of working class people
Come on now
>Not everyone has access
Bro I can't access this public domain book
>Not everyone is capable
I can't read bro but I'm interested in political theory

The internet was a mistake

>>17648147
That's retarded though.

>>17647901
Made me chuckle

>>17648144
This is not true, there are multiple studies that show a variety of health benefits that come from weightlifting (not cardio). One should find a balance between the two to get the most benefits.

>>17647872
These people want to be oppressed so bad

>>17648174
>material and intellectual conditions have no effect on anything
>every event simply pops up in isolation from the others
OK

>>17648209
Nothing of what you said implies my post is not true. I'm not against weightlifting it's just wrong that people who claim to lift for health dismiss cardio.

>>17648019
grow up

>>17648132
What about bouldering and kayaking (both of which I do) and all other outdoor activities that is about strength. Yes, lifting weight is more efficient, but that isn't necessarily a good thing for the muscles being build.

>>17647865
I love it when nonwhite retards shame Marxists

>>17648220
I didn't say that. The reformation didn't create any strong conditions in France because France was not a reformed country you mong. French anticlericalism was against the catholic church if anything not that it was the decisive factor for the revolution anyhow.
>strawmanning to look smug
Pretty cringe

>>17647981
twitter is a lot bigger and more important than 4chan, it has become the primary form of communication for many actual influential people

>>17648144
>Real doctors stress cardiovascular exercise infinitely more than weightlifting.
I know this might be shocking to you but you can do both. Look up dynamic effort for example.

>>17648232
>The reformation didn't create any strong conditions in France because France was not a reformed country you mong
It created certain "strong" intellectual condtions throughout Europe - some immediately good, some latterly bad. This is undeniable. Those condtions proved to be fertile ground for the revolution.

>>17647630
kekelina maximina

>>17648232
I can't really be accused of strawmaning because I have no idea who you are. It sounded very much as if you were saying the Reformation could have nothing to do with the Revolution because its main actors were not Protestant.

>omg these 10 people who are anonymously replying on a website represent the entire youth of le worle11!!!!11
Kill yourself i am begging you

>>17648254
>I know this might be shocking to you but you can do both.
Why do you have to be such a homosexual? Nobody was denying that you tryhard faggot.

>>17647884
Holy shit this sentence is real and unironic lmao
I thought it was a parody of all the leftist buzzwords

>>17648280
If you think twitter doesn't reperesent the views of a large chunk of young people in the west, you are kidding yourself. This does matter; it is a problem that is only going to grow if you keep trying to downplay it.

>>17648226
Is that a serious question?
Which function is being called upon more during the most intense moments of either activity, muscular strength or cardiovascular capacity? Never mind that lifting weights trains both. If you don't think strength is the most broadly applicable and useful adaptation, you either haven't thought about it enough or you're retarded

>the youth is beyond saving
...and that’s a good thing! Seriously. Let the flounder and eat their own shorts. As it stands, the adults should not have a problem keeping the reigns in control until these youngin’s become more acquainted with the reality at hand instead of their weird adolescent visions.

>>17648350
I can see an argument for oly lifting and stuff like weighted pullups but fat retards who max out their big 3 have clearly lost the plot

>>17648218

No one said cardio isn't important, but if you can only do one, weight lifting should be the priority. I don't care what your doctor tells you. Most GPs aren't even qualified to discuss lifting intelligently. Telling people to walk or run is easy and an obvious improvement over most peoples' current activity level, so it's what they do.

>>17648358
There’s a middle ground anon. I do PPL and still do cardio 3 times a week

>>17648358
Why? Oly lifting is much harder to coach/learn and more likely to get new lifters injured. The traditional compound lifts are the safest, most efficient way for beginners to make make gains in essentially all areas of physical health.

Twitter really is some bizarro /pol/

>>17647630
/lit/ is for the discussion of literature, specifically books (fiction & non-fiction), short stories, poetry, creative writing, etc. If you want to discuss history, religion, or the humanities, go to /his/. If you want to discuss politics, go to /pol/. Philosophical discussion can go on either /lit/ or /his/, but those discussions of philosophy that take place on /lit/ should be based around specific philosophical works to which posters can refer.

>>17647662
Use nitter
Just replace the twitter.com part of the url with any of the instances
https://nitter.42l.fr/lananasparle/status/1363335236088692737

>>17648377
oly lifting is just more athletic, it increases your ability to jump and sprint and stuff. anyway I don't have a problem with the compound lifts as long as you also train pullups/dips and do cardio or hill sprints or something

>>17648039
>I WILL NEVER BE A, AS I e n j o y TO CALL THEM, DOUCHE-BRO. I WILL NEVER INJECT TO MYSELF THOSE CREATINE AND PROTEINE TO GET BIGGER.

Bro, come to the gym. We can talk about books there. You will feel better and stop being a lardass.

>>17648312
I know faggot, and this sort of behaviour is making it worse

>>17647981
Accurate

>>17648274
Is it about christ? I never read that deeply into it, was just a very good story about a man's struggle.

>>17648102
Cope, Luther (pbuh) was a genius

I fully acknowledge that my generation is pretty much beyond saving at this point, but damn some of these are amazing:

>Anything by Shakespeare. I don’t think there’s a lot of value in reading something that you have to constantly look up the words and context when there’s so much great modern works still to be read. I mean it sounds beautiful and all but I’d rather just listen to Radiohead.

>The Bible, which my Conservative Christian AP AMERICAN Literature teacher somehow convinced the board was American, despite its having been written and translated centuries before America was a nation.
>I'm in favor of the bible being taught to Christians... so they can see how brutal and absurd it really is.

>Huckleberry Finn. We get it, you are doing accents and being racist while posturing like you aren't. FWIW, I didn't read Frankenstein in HS, but I LOVE it now and teach it to my AP kids who seem to like it, too. If they are being kind and humoring me...I am ok with that.

>Anything with a white boy and a dog/wolf in the wilderness. By high school, I probably had read at least 7-10 of those in English classes.
(Sleeping face emoji)

>Lord of the Flies. It was difficult being overweight and reading a book where one of the main characters is called "Piggy."
>My class was given an assignment where characters were survivors of a plane crash and we had to decide who to kill. My class voted to kill the disabled kid because they couldn’t contribute. Nobody in the class knew I was disabled. F that book and all assignments related to it

>Animal Farm. Realistically the animals wouldn't act that way, they go out of their way to fit into the roles that the book wants them to fill instead of actually trying to show what animals in that situation would do.
^^^I feel like this is a shitpost though

>I loved every book I read in HS. Every single one. We were poor and my dad was a drunk and books took me away from that and when we talked about them in class my teachers seemed to value my comments, which was cool too.
^^^hey this is actually a nice one

>Mice and Men. I actually threw the book across the room when I got to the *sometimes we've gotta kill the disabled guy for his own good* part, and I had not enjoyed it up to then. Don't think we even talked about the, uhhh, SUPER ABLEIST implications (Thinking face emoji)

>Fahrenheit 451. It doesn't say anything interesting that hasn't already been said before and has been said a thousand times since then and in more elegant ways. The prose is so asinine, taking time to intricately describe insignificant things to the story such as a candle.

>>17648522
Fahrenheit 451 was pretty mediocre tho desu

>>17648522
>Lord of the Flies. It was difficult being overweight and reading a book where one of the main characters is called "Piggy."
>My class was given an assignment where characters were survivors of a plane crash and we had to decide who to kill. My class voted to kill the disabled kid because they couldn’t contribute. Nobody in the class knew I was disabled. F that book and all assignments related to it

Lmfao these people are so fucking insecure

>>17647865
So they admit being monolingual is a disability. At least they're honest.

>>17648522
>Anything by Shakespeare. I don’t think there’s a lot of value in reading something that you have to constantly look up the words and context when there’s so much great modern works still to be read. I mean it sounds beautiful and all but I’d rather just listen to Radiohead.
fucking radiohead fans

>>17648019
brushing your teeth is a psyop. Its equivalent to saying 'scratch up your car as much as you want, just means you have to polish it every week'.

>>17648495
POV: you called Luther a genius in your lifetime

>>17648029
You should do both, retard.

desu, twitter is the last platform where you get genuine redpills

>>17648046
Creatina. As in creatine plus tina. If it is not a joke mocking trans athletes it is waaaaaaaaaaaay funnier than if it's a deliberate joke.

>>17648617
second one is hawter

>>17648584
>he doesn't chew an oral probiotic and brush his teeth with it

>>17648663
Someone tell this man about no fear shakespeare.

>>17647884

This is up there with the classic "In this moment, I am euphoric."

>>17647630
Dont lose hope in the youth, every generation has decried the next, all the way back to Socrates. The brain rot caused by social media is just an eccentrified version of the same rot introduced by television. Twitter is a complete shithole, of course there are going to be stupid people there. Its better to just ignore them.

>>17648484
Some people make comparisons, with the prolonged time in the sea, the three days and nights, carrying the skeleton of the fish like a cross, etc.
I don't see it, but it's definitely a small part of the discourse around the book.

>>17647630
There is no reason to be blackpilled by twitter users. These people do not represent the average joe, or public policy any more than 4chan.

Besides, it doesn't matter how the reading curriculum is changed in public school. It's irredeemable trash -- don't send your kids there. Imagine spending the first 18 years of your life in school and all you've got to show for it is rudimentary reading, writing, and math skills.

There are a slew of books that can only be impactful in youth and you end up reading maybe 2 books per year - it's pathetic.

>>17648805
When a man says, "People were as
pessimistic as you are in societies which were not declining, but were
even advancing," it is permissible to reply, "Yes, and people were
probably as optimistic as you are in societies which really declined."
For, after all, there were societies which really declined.
It is true that Horace said that every generation seemed to be
worse than the last, and implied that Rome was going to the dogs,
at the very moment when all the external world was being brought
under the eagles. But it is quite likely that the last forgotten
court poet, praising the last forgotten Augustulus at the stiff
court of Byzantium, contradicted all the seditious rumours
of social decline, exactly as our newspapers do, by saying that,
after all, Horace had said the same thing. And it is also possible
that Horace was right; that it was in his time that the turn was taken
which led from Horatius on the bridge to Heracleius in the palace;
that if Rome was not immediately going to the dogs, the dogs were
coming to Rome, and their distant howling could first be heard
in that hour of the uplifted eagles; that there had begun a long
advance that was also a long decline, but ended in the Dark Ages.
Rome had gone back to the Wolf.

REFUTED

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>>17647884
Reminder: Leftists are not human beings.

>>17648805
I remember reading an old egyptian text where the writer lamented on the bad quality of the mummies, the kids being disrepectul and the priests forgetting magical formulas and aliens entering the country. On the other hand, where is Egypt now, where's the glory of the greeks? I'm going to see what's left of my culture and language dissapear during my lifetime. At least the englishmen can reasonably think that their kids will save their heritage somehow. It will be like the Roman Empire, you can't just erase such an influence on the world, UK/USA will live on through the memory of other countries.

>>17648833
>For, after all, there were societies which really declined.
progs have an inability to really grasp this for obvious reasons. if they do concede the point they deny that it could ever apply to our society

>>17648869
>you can't just erase such an influence on the world, UK/USA will live on through the memory of other countries
God I hope no. Degenerate movies, negro music, promiscuity, hubristic capitalism, shart in the 'Mart, fast "food", gay democracy and war crimes: those are the products of the USA and its influence

>>17648046
>>17648619
Creatina Turner
Tina Turner
you may have heard of her. Of course it's an intentional pun.

>>17648623
you call that plastic mannequin hot?
this is what years of porn has done to young people's brains

>>17647630
>those people claiming you teenagers can't understand most classics and should not be forced to read them until they have matured a bit
Sounds a lot like /lit/ tb.h.

>>17648947
I mean the way she is the dominant one in the pic, subverting the expectations.
>this is what years of porn has done to young people's brains
So watching pornstars with above average looks causes one to have low his standards? Conservatives were always weak on logic.

>>17648829
Thanks for the motivation... I guess living in a western-european nation, being in university and the media shilling identity politics (it's almost election time here) is making me nostalgic of times lost, and more pessimistic about my generation. Probably not everyone is so bad though, I'm just too far into an internet-media bubble due to covid to meet actual people.

This thread makes me sad. Why can’t I be a leftist but also call people fucking retards? When did that become a thing? I care if there’s food in their stomachs not whether I offended them or not. Fuck these illiterate retards.

>>17649056
just call them chuds, its cringe but the best u got

>>17649056
just call them petite bourgousise or kulaks or something

>>17649056
Because your side has embraced empathy-politics and uses the concept of “oppression” to determine social problems. It’s not a coincidence that the left today is like this.

Where do people with that kind of mindset come from? It's obvious that in situation as shown in Lord of the Flies everyone has to carry his own weight or else they will all die and those who can't have to be discarded. Why is it so impossible to understand it?

>>17649056
call them bourgeois bohemians and look at them with disdain like pic related

>>17649103
this is proof that twitter users are outsiders. her based classmates knew disabled people objective have the least value unless they're some learned sage

>>17649103
Based class
Nothing personal but productivity matters

>>17649103
That's easy to think when you are a normal kid, but when you are the odd one out it just hits you hard to know, that instead of being accepted and working together, the society might want you to just die, especially if you are still a very much insecure child/teenager.

>>17649127
then you should get over yourself and develop skills so that you're no longer the one to be picked.

>>17649127
well they said someone has to

>>17649135
That usually happens in adult age, kids are confused about many things and parents make for poor guidance. Also, it depends on the type of disability.

>>17649103
>class was given an assignment to vote on who to kill
literally what the fuck lmao

>>17649168
Yeah, what was their teacher smoking. There is no way it is going to end up well.

>>17649155
Well, for starters that was a wrong assignment to give to teenagers, unless they wanted to test their levels of sociopathy. Most adults would at least have the decency to lie and make up some ways to have everyone survive, even if those might not work in real life. We're supposed to strive to be above animals, otherwise what's the point of our brains.

>>17647630
Not everyone is a twitter libtard. But you are basing your judgement on a skewed sample.
Look up the availability bias.

>>17648833
based

>>17649181
bitch ass copout lol
>i refuse to choose

>>17647872
I'd like to see this faggot's face 2 hours into a grape-picking session

>>17649168
Yeah if there's someone to blame it's the teacher.

Why is everyone ITT clutching at their pearls over what some simpleton thinks about a book they were forced to read in high school.
I hate to break it to you but the world has always been full of idiots, its just their opinions were not written down for later consumption.
Stop giving undue weight to meaningless noise and your life will be richer for it.

>>17649339
they're not pearls it's a stressball

>>17649339
you are seeing reactionary posts because 4chan is a reactionary website

>>17647630
There are a lot of dumb people that don't like reading. It's like 1 star goodreads review threads. I don't see what's so surprising.

Imagine they read American Psycho, Blood Meridian or even Heart of Darkness. They are like little children scared to get hurt feelings

>>17649168
When kids read this, they always say it's unrealistic and "as a modern member of society I would never do that". The experiment was to show them what they were capable of and that they were just moralizing to make themselves feel good. Teachers love doing these basic sociological experiments to challenge students' moral beliefs.

It's just the trolley problem but now it's a plane crash island survival situation.

>>17649387
>Heart of Darkness
>anything but the blandest of bland
They won’t finish because every time they’ll try to read it they’ll fall asleep.

Leftists controlling education, this is what you end up with.

F for the West

>>17649388
>Teachers love doing these basic sociological experiments to challenge students' moral beliefs.
Sounds like we should hang teachers tbqh

>>17649339
Not to mention this thread was probably poached from /pol/ so the twitter thread and most of the "ridiculous" tweets are most likely /pol/tards writing bait

>>17649399
>I WOULD NEVEE FOLLOW HITLER I KNOW BETTER
>teacher designs sociological experiment where students all become fascists
Watch The Wave.

>>17649408
/pol/ can't run ops on twitter like that, they can make threads with like 10 likes per post maybe. mainstream Twitter says stuff like this every day anyway

>>17649414
i agree we should be teaching students that Hitler was right

>>17649408
You don't actually browse Twitter, do you?

>>17649427
No. I have a life. I don't need twitter to live.

>>17648068
Radical skepticism was a largely Catholic and French phenomenon. Erasmus, Montaigne, Descartes, Pascal, etc. Why do Catholics always try to make it a Protestant issue? The only way Protestantism is related is that it inspired humanists to formulate skeptical defenses of Catholicism.

>>17648555
The ending is laughable.

>>17647630
Twitter threads should be b&

>>17648522
>>17648555
Agree with this Bradbury is reddit-tier.

>>17647865
Very good post.

>>17648869

>>17649451
Radical skepticism is anti-enlightenment since it denies the power of reason. Post-epiphany Pascal is a prime example. The revolution wasn't grounded on radical skepticism ideas, but more on the confidence of the bourgeois class that they knew best how to handle things (plus the popular uprising that had as much to do with drought and famine than anything else).

>>17647653
This is how kids are raised today, if anything Huxley was ahead of his time.

>it's
That's when you know to stop reading.

>>17649366
I myself am "reactionairy" and I don't give a fuck.

>>17649408
Nah, OP here, I stumbled upon this thread when searching the title of a book I just read, see if any ppl on twitter had any opinions on it (bad idea, I know).

>>17649408
The poltard things is starting to look like an ad hoc conspiracy theory.

>>17647630
Only Americans do this. Proud descendants of the puritans. The rest of the world's youth isn't constantly seething about their classics.

>>17649719
perhaps, but their reasoning is informed by the same thing: gut feeling

>>17648992
>So watching pornstars with above average looks causes one to have low his standards?
Yes. You are training yourself to be comfortable as a cuckold every time you watch someone else have sex with the object of your desire on-screen.

>>17649803
Porn is best avoided altogether, but if you must view it, you should watch first-person porn using a VR headset.

>>17649704
the closer we are to becoming such a society as described in the book the harder it is for people to realize it. for reference television was invented in the late 1920s and Huxley wrote the novel in 1931. today, kids are born into this TV and social media poisoned world so the current state of affairs seems like the only tenable one, they see nothing wrong with it because they can't conceive of anything different. it can't be stopped

>>17649127
I understand your point, however the hypothetical situation as presented, which places the group at sustenance level if they give their very best isn't the "society" we have currently. The sole fact that that person isn't able to think about it in a rational way, even after supposedly many years that have passed since, is astonishing to me. In the kind of scenario you have here, you just have to get rid of the cripple, because he is a net drag on the group in its attempts to survive, they will all die and their virtue will be for nothing.
The idea of universal, common dignity and a sort of "right to live" was born in times when the society could produce enough surplus to let old, weak and crippled members to survive - the "day of 60 years olds" in Rome is a testament to that. When Livy writes about it, it was limited to just ritual drowning of puppets, but the name leaves no doubt about the actual character of the holiday. This was the day when, maybe 300 maybe even more years before Livy, people who were too old to work the land were thrown to Tiber river to drown. Otherwise they would endanger their entire society as they consumed resources(food) while contributed nothing in a world with very, very small surpluses. You can't have "right to live" in place like that.

>>17647763
I did. Island sucks in comparison to BNW

>>17648693
Holland is correct.

>>17647992
ok retard

>>17647703
When are we genociding the french? They have done nothing but destroy the world.

>>17648019
Hahahahahhaa all the replies to this ahahahahaha

I hate that the more I read shit like this the louder this little trad schizo voice inside of me gets. I don't even agree it, but I just want some strong counter-measure that will make these people to go away.

I used to make fun of /pol/ back in the day for overreacting to college kids, and now look I me.

>>17650150
Just nuke Paris. French countryside is based and full of very nice French people and food and wine and brandy.

>>17648522
>My class was given an assignment where characters were survivors of a plane crash and we had to decide who to kill. My class voted to kill the disabled kid because they couldn’t contribute. Nobody in the class knew I was disabled. F that book and all assignments related to it
Kek, based class eugenicists.

>>17650188
Sorry Pierre, we tried twice to clean up Paris to avoid the rest. Third time's the (nuclear winter) charm.

>>17650198
:( Will you at least ship me some Mosel rieslings, then?

>>17650188
And qt French country bumpkin girls

>>17648484
>>17648822
>Is it about christ?
No. I fucking hate these gay analyses. It's """ABOUT""" an old man catching a fish, people just loooooove to make tenuous connections to other things in an attempt to look smart. Did Hemingway intend to lace it with other connections? Who knows- did he write that down? Did he tell anyone? If not it's just faggots rearranging a narrative.

>>17649397
We simply shouldn't be wasting resources shuttling everyone and their retarded kids through mass education.

>>17650187
I feel you man. Communism won’t work because modern propaganda and bread and circus is easier than theory. Placate the masses and they’ll never revolt, they’ll never question with depth. 240 characters is the extent of their analysis.

>>17650307
you have to be over 18 to post

Yanks just admit your society is in decline. No one seethed about this 50 years ago.

>>17648522
These people brag about being college-educated and yet they are anti-intellectual.

>>17649408
Why is there such a level of cope on this board regarding Pol? What if your society really is in decline? Protip: kids didn't think this way 60 years ago

>>17649339
Not true. There have certainly always been retards, but never as self hating as this. Nor as perverted or degenerate

>>17650422
We're about to have a civil war anon. The other half of us are stockpiling guns and ammo right now.

>>17650449
You're only having a cw if your elite really fuck up and spook the frog. If they keep the slow boil then any dissidents will just die out over the next few decades, they've pretty much already won. Going into overdrive now would be a very dumb move

>>17648693
this is true but instead of writers I'd just say teachers. most writers don't think that deeply of their own work

>>17647630
you guys spend a lot of time getting mad at twitter literal whos

>>17650422
I wish it were just Yanks.

>>17647630
I mean, that's probably the fault of its saviours, no? Go fucking teach if you're unhappy with the situation.

>>17650584
unironically going to be a high school History/English/Social Studies teacher.

>>17650611
kek sometimes i watch that guy's comfy youtube videos where he boils and eats an onion or some such thing.

>>17650615
Comfy indeed. We must retvrn to boiled onion.

Jesus, people really fucking hated Gatsby.

It's ok. I hated it too. I wish we read Moby fucking Dick instead.

>thread about some pleb literal whos on twitter with hot takes
>200+ replies
/lit/ is dead

>>17648663
america is becoming a mongrelized hellhole similar to any third world country. It's not all bad tho. Most of the elite of said third world countries are generally the ancient natives who kept their bloodlines pure

>>17650478
This, your kids will bend the knee, or your children's children. All will be consumed by the leviathan

>>17647997
Because these are the people teaching kids, making public policy, etc

>>17649168
At my uni, that problem is given to freshmen, generally in the first semester. It's a very basic, simple exercise to demonstrate our own morality and to show that some of these things in books aren't super outlandish and horrifying since we're capable of the same thing

>>17647865

pseudo-elites will do anything they can to maintain their delusion of superiority. In truth, all they need to do is reject tradition and learn the language of their hip peers to write their disapproval.

Every screenshot made me more and more depressed
>tfw my gf is getting into this shit
Lads I can't take it, I need twitter to die, I need it to end it's letting retards have too much publicity and popularity.

>>17651433
tell her to delete twitter

>>17651497
You say that like it's simple.

>>17651514
>Babe I'm really concerned about the climate of that shithole
>I really want you to consider getting rid of it altogether

>>17651518
>hey babe I know you like using twitter and your friends are on it but delete because I think the intense nihilistic attitudes of the people who use it will damage you
>yeah sure np
This is not a real scenario.

>>17651497
This. Digital peer pressure is really strong on Twitter, and a woman does not have the faculties to go against it. She will turn into a retard if you let her stay there.

>>17651531
>I think the intense nihilistic attitudes of the people who use it will damage you
If she's not even willing to consider this because "haha the memes are funny" then she's probably not a keeper.

>>17651548
Well I'm not in a position to try and police what she does anymore than she can to me; I browse 4chan daily for fuck sake and the constant /pol/fags lurking around are as bad as those retards.

>>17651585
Hahahaha cuckold spotted. Accept her fate then lmao

>>17651618
>cuckold
>LOOK MOM I SAID IT AGAIN

>>17651618
>Hahahaha cuckold spotted

>>17648853
Well, not these ones. I think even lifelong lefties are embarrassed by these jokers.

>>17651627
>>17651635
Wat? You're literally posting about your relationship issues on lit, and then you resort to saying that you will not attempt to correct her behaviour that you were complaining about.
????
Just accept it then i don't get it

>>17647653
When you give a book to a monkey, don’t expect to see wise read.

>>17651585
>Well I'm not in a position to try and police what she does
You're not "policing" anything. Why do you have to think in absolutes? You'd simply be giving a loved one a well-meaning piece of advice. If she'd get assblasted about that then, again, she's not a keeper.

>>17651871
Hence why I called him a cuckold, unironically. If cuckold is a tarnished word then you can use spineless instead

>>17651934
Not wrong. Ideally he'd straight-up just tell her to get off twitter ASAP because it's a propagandizing machine, but he's probably too weak for that.

>>17647901
Funniest post on the board in months

>>17651974
Explain

>>17647630
not living in the woods lol enjoy your progress

>>17650615
>>17650611
When are you plebs going to take the Walter Staib pill?

>>17647901
holy fuck i laughed big at this

>>17649408
Or maybe Twitter is a brain dead hivemand of insane leftists?

>Browsing Twitter

ngmi

Joycefags BTFO

>>17648168
all these zoomer struggle to read even things written at a working class level in 1848
social media and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race

>>17648144
Doctors know sweet fuck all about being a beast that men fear and women admire.

>>17652307
>I owe no one a debate
aka
>I frequently say absurd baity things without giving any evidence and retreat when faced with even slight backlash

>>17648522
>I'm in favor of the bible being taught to Christians... so they can see how brutal and absurd it really is
There's nothing quite like the anti-Semitic, Islamaphobic, atheist SJW.

>>17647703
shouldnt have started the silesian war

>>17648853
Ted was right...

>right wing censorship
BASED
>left wing censorship
CRINGE

>>17647901
audible kek

>>17648312
It doesnt. People dont have views on twitter, they just post random shit.

>>17647942
Here's my theory:
>coof created in a lab
>china spread it
>china can deal with it fine because their governement can just lock everyone up proper with no backlash from public
>they know everyone else will deal with it horribly
>they know westerners will be locked up inside for a while, increasing their reliance on technology/escapism + weakening them mentally etc etc and just generally getting more retarded
>also the obvious economic effects
>china wins
>chin

???? wat

>>17647851
Agreed. I wish my parents were a bit richer so they could do that. Schools really kill your innate drive for self-learning. Don't ever let you kids lose that - help them do it.

>>17647872
What a fucking dumb fuck.

>>17648522
>>My class was given an assignment where characters were survivors of a plane crash and we had to decide who to kill. My class voted to kill the disabled kid because they couldn’t contribute.

>>17647884
kek this bitch needs to reduce her purple prose

>>17647993
Agreed. Anyone take a look at their infrastructure? They have trains connecting almost every city + their plans to have multiple shipping routes to the country. They're set.

>public high school in rural Australian city
>my entire english class had a revolt whenever book study came around
>movies instead
>students actually walked out of the class when teacher announced we were reading Shakespeare
>never read Shakespeare

>>17647630
It's 'are.' 'The youth ARE beyond saving.'

>>17647997
These people spend all day trying to convince others of their views. And me, having young people around me a lot, I have to hear this shit regurgitated multiple times a day.

Feels good to laugh at them without being heckled for it.

>>17647653
I can't tell what her opinion is from reading this. Help?

>>17653101
Me neither tbqh. I think she's disgusted by them forcing the kids to mate with each other in a controlled environment, and this disgusts her so much that she can't think about the rest of the book at all. I don't even remember that part of the book because it's pretty insignifcant

>>17653101
>>17653154

Sometimes, or maybe often, women say things just to say things, or be included in a discussion, or to simply explicate something that they find peculiar, and outsource its interpretation to the collective. Idiotic and slavish men do the same.

>>17653174
Thanks for the red pill sir

>>17648853
is this prevailing theory that leftists can't enjoy literature? i'm a leftist and enjoy literature.

>>17649155
I would have stood up to the teacher and told him either no one dies or you die for suggesting it.

>>17647865
I’m disabled and live under the poverty line. Now I won’t read Marx because I have no interest, but unironically saying “not capable” is ableist as fuck. I listen to audiobooks a lot of the time. Fucking hate people like this holy shit. Are they even disabled themselves???

>>17649704
there’s even a BBC porn scene when they go to the feelies theater. pretty nuts and it reads better than 1984 despite being older

>>17648019
weightlifters are lame as hell, as boring as their interest. i do sports instead.

>>17649408
Bruh

>>17648105
yeah and it went nowhere and has nothing to do with the printing press in europe and the near east

>>17648168
>>Literally written with the intended audience of working class people
so were penny dreadfuls, do you think they can read them?

>>17647630
>The youth is beyond saving
Ok boomer

>>17647630
>800 likes
Who cares this is no one

>>17648869
you can find even more people in history complaining about old ways and saying we need to be up-to-date, it is actually the new way that is insistent and intolerant. but it doesn't mean anything because we can see the huge degeneration of society independent of cultural norms and values. it is categorically different. young people are dysfunctional and borderline mentally ill by default today, they are incapable of serious friendships or partnerships, they are more mentally castrated by conformism and marketing than anyone else in history, they are not allowed to have private lives and are therefore determined 1:1 by the social (no room for individuality, which is by definition private and unique). these are not shifts in culture and circumstances, or the lamentations of bitter old men, this is social decay that cannot be retrieved. it takes a long time to develop the unseen subtleties of healthy social conditions (lively culture), and it takes very little time to discard them. i'm 21 btw.

Incredible how we let retards become school teachers

>>17653922
What are we to do ? the generation x and boomer are simply uninterested in this. they are parasites upon their children as they were to their parents. We can only wait until a competent generation can take any power to alleviate this. our surroundings are too damnable, we are not in control of our lives even now.

>>17648002

He's not trolling, scroll his feed for a few seconds. He's just a gay with a drag thing who really thinks he has it worse off than a 1930's farm laborer.

>>17653022
no. both are acceptable and it's normal for a plural to become a singular when it's commonly used.

>>17653101
>>17653154

For a second, I thought I had lost my mind. Are these the famous NPC's everyone's always going on about? The ones with no internal monologue hwutsoever??

>>17649103
>Nobody in the class knew I was disabled
>face diaper in avatar
Let me guess, single mom brought him to a lazy doctor and he just wrote autism upon seeing that there's no hope for that kid?

>>17653975
In this case, it has a plural meaning, thus, 'is' is not grammatically correct.

>>17647653
This is genuinely, unironically terrifying.

>>17648395
not the same guy but id go to the gym with you friend <3

>>17653022
No they aren't. Stop telling people how something is, you retard.

Youth can be re-educated later in their lives.

>>17649103

>>17653749
I've seen a lot of Huxley but haven't read BNW, now I want to.
And Orwell always seemed to me to be too midwit, al his work feels so bland and lacking subtlety.

>>17650611
im going to school for this now lmao. mostly going to teach anit-leftist view of history

>>17652611
isnt that most people on twitter?

>>17652814
>>17652829
>yes hello based department?
>Yea i got two based anons here!

>>17652335
>social media and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race
Unironically.

>>17647872
Me, me & me, featuring me, by me, dedicated to me.

>>17654703
>al his work feels so bland and lacking subtlety.
If this is an issue for you, you won't enjoy any dystopian novel.

>>17654716
Just teach history where you give most all the historical figures the benefit of the doubt and this will come naturally.

>>17653154
Yes indeed. Girls hate a controlled sex market.

women can't get their easy life without getting men to compete for them. competition implies that some men will be bolder than others to be chosen by the woman for casual sex. Women are at the top of the sex market and they like it. THis is why women are communist for anything but sex, and they still want sex to be a free market, because they are the alpha predator only on this market.

>>17654826
thats what i mean. im just putting things in context and giving the benefit of doubt. In other words anti-left = basic truth

>>17654880
idk, when ever I do a deep dive into a historical time i always go "fuck man, I can sympathise with why x did y due to the circumstance and their personality and socio-cultural environment, and i understand a did b apposing x due to his, I guess they were just people following a mixure of their own path, the choices somewhat available to them and the knowledge and beliefs they would have."
i wouldnt exactly say anti left, but a more universal empathy. for both the slave and the slave master, the merchant and the craftsman, the peasant and the king. them being people with their own sympathetic and contradictory plights and ethos and beliefs and values.

maybe its just low humanism, lol.

>>17654918
based. but mind you the left doesnt give anyone the shadow of a doubt and if they are white they are just discared as "da evil white devil".

But youre right its just Humanism and Humanism is against most of what the left preaches.

>>17649110
"Haute bohème" also works

>>17647901
It would feel wrong not to acknowledge this.

>>17649103
First of all, how dense do you have to be to equate things happening in a book and the author approving of them?

Second, that reply sounds like bullshit. What is the education value of that assignment?

>>17654441
grammatical number is not semantic number. e.g. group vs groups.

holy fuck, good thing I live in Germany. We've read Goethe, Hesse, Kafka etc. in school and it was wonderful. I feel bad for burgers

>>17647630
The low IQ progressive talking about Lord of the Flies needs a good curb stomping

>>17649249
He's a fag. He's probably an expert at handling grape shaped objects.

>>17655607
Yeah, kids get forced to read that and almost universally hate it. So do teachers, I had a lot to do with becoming German teachers at uni, the majority of them are women who read YA. Only a matter of time before that shit reaches our schools as well.

Soon. He will usher in the end of Liberalism.

>>17648361
Wrong post?

>>17647630
>youth
I mean they look older than boomers.

>>17647630
yes, mass literacy was a mistake, those people weren't supposed to be able to read, etc

We already know that here anon, now go back to r*ddit

>>17655695
Damn so handsome unlike wil wilkinson