/lit/ - Literature

>>17647000
Truth about islam.

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>>17647007
Truth about the Quran.

>>17647011
Truth about Muhammad.

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>>17647007
Repeat a lie for a million years, a million eons, you still cannot make it true. No. But the kuffar do not even understand what truth means anymore, they just understand data and absence of data, information, to be informed regardless of the truth of it.

>>17647016
t. believes the sun sets in a muddy puddle because a shit book compiled 1400 years ago tells him so.

>>17647030
I cannot but suspect you are an apostate and having degenerated from what was holy become more disoriented than those who never ascended, as with Iblis

>>17647000
>From "Join the Caravan"
Is it about 30 pages? I'll give it a read OP

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>>17647011
Truth be told, I am very careful not to criticize the Quran, or Prophet Muhammad, Aisha, Ali, and the various holy figures of Islam. My grievances are with a certain segment of the Muslim population, and it is unwise to group all Muslims in that category. Moreover, it is not the place of an admittedly sinful person like myself to attack or think ill of holy people or texts.

>>17647056
Yes it's pretty brief
https://english.religion.info/2002/02/01/document-join-the-caravan/

>>17647038
>Iblis
I read this as lolis desu

>>17647066
That's some deeply retarded take anon.

>>17647088

no it is not, go back faggot

>>17647038
Why don't you address his claim? If you refute him I'll take the goatpill!

>>17647038
Dam why would a primarily western message board have apostates from your oriental religion?

>>17647106
>christianity is not an oriental religion
sub 50IQ retard

tfw Muhammad ordered muslims to drink CAMEL PISS.

>The climate of Medina did not suit some people, so the Prophet (ﷺ) ordered them to follow his shepherd, i.e. his camels, and drink their milk and urine (as a medicine). So they followed the shepherd that is the camels and drank their milk and urine till their bodies became healthy.

>>17647139
Extracts from mare urine are an ingredient in some western pharmaceuticals

>>17647143
That's how muslim rationalize drinking piss straight out of the camel genitals.

>>17647155
Never seen that done and I don't think It's a thing

>>17647139
Do they really? Hahahahahhahahahahaha

>>17647000
Is this Metaphysics of War for muslims? Reads like it.

>>17647139
OH NO NO INCESTBROS WE GOT TOO COCKY

>>17647219
Yes but it also contains jurisprudence, politics, and functions as a manifesto but also features arguments for several points,such as this being the correct understanding of jihad. It's also philosophical and tells Muslims to completely abandon anger toward the enemy and detach themselves from resentment

>The wise instructor should look down upon hysteria, recklessness, faltering from seeing evil, losing aim due to anger over the women who have been raped, and feelings of jealous torment on seeing such profound events; all this is rashness.

>I blame not the invader when he uses force or prepares, for his way is to seize, and our concern must be to prepare.

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>>17647155
Animal and human urine was in common usage in all of christian europe before the industrial revolution and even beyond. I'm sure you've had a grandmother or other family member who advocates pee for all sorts of conditions, to help your feet, to cure burns or skin conditions, to wash your hair.

>hurr durr people living in pre-industrial environments make use of pre-industrial treatments
Neck yoursel you history-less retard, I hate invading muslims as much as any european nationalist, but I hate kikes like you even more and if I had a choice I'd have the likes of you hanged first.

tfw you will never stone a she-monkey along your monkey bros

>Narrated 'Amr bin Maimun:

>During the pre-lslamic period of ignorance I saw a she-monkey surrounded by a number of monkeys. They were all stoning it, because it had committed illegal sexual intercourse. I too, stoned it along with them.
https://muflihun.com/bukhari/58/188

>>17647259
>During the pre-lslamic period of ignorance
Jahiliyyah, in other words the Arabs prior to Islam. Pagan time

>>17647270
So monke stopped stoning she-monke after Muhammad's revelation, truly Allah's the greatest!

>>17647281
No just Arabs stopped being the sort that would join in. Monkies still stone and fling feces

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>>17647014
Based truth poster. All Islam shills seethe.

tfw your burger glorifies Allah as you eat it.

>Narrated `Abdullah:

>We used to consider miracles as Allah's Blessings, but you people consider them to be a warning. Once we were with Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) on a journey, and we ran short of water. He said, "Bring the water remaining with you." The people brought a utensil containing a little water. He placed his hand in it and said, "Come to the blessed water, and the Blessing is from Allah." I saw the water flowing from among the fingers of Allah's Messenger (ﷺ), and no doubt, we heard the meal glorifying Allah, when it was being eaten (by him).

>>17647332
>Then your hearts hardened and became like stones, or even harder. For surely there are some stones from which streams burst forth and some that split asunder and water issues out, and some that crash down for fear of Allah. Allah is not heedless of the things you do.

tfw greeted by a stone

>Jabir b. Samura reported Messenger of Allah ﷺ as saying: I recognise the stone in Mecca which used to pay me salutations before my advent as a Prophet and I recognise that even now.
https://muflihun.com/muslim/30/5654

>>17647332

I thought this post was trolling but it is REAL.
Sahih al-Bukhari 3579
Book 61, Hadith 88

Muzzies, what can you say?

>>17647416
Islam ascribes vivacity to all being (there is no word for "it" in Arabic, and the concept is foreign to Islam). All being will actually testify in judgement, even rocks and trees and insects, even animal get their due and objects which have not been accorded their right. Everything according to the Qur'an worships Allah, even mountains, but Muhammad's ﷺ presence sometimes had the quality of actually miraculously bringing all sorts of being to speak which is normally reserved until judgement. Things which do not normally speak, speaking, is the definitive mark of miracle within Islam, infants being another example. The food saying Alhamdulilah upon touching Muhammad ﷺ is part of his quality. Also the prophets David and Solomon were narrated to be able to talk to and understand animals, even ants, and the Qur'an says Allah sends down inspiration to the bee

>>17647416
They're all real and sahih and pure comedy gold.

>It was said to the Prophet "Would that you see Abdullah bin Ubai." So, the Prophet went to him, riding a donkey, and the Muslims accompanied him, walking on salty barren land. When the Prophet reached 'Abdullah bin Ubai, the latter said, "Keep away from me! By Allah, the bad smell of your donkey has harmed me." On that an Ansari man said (to 'Abdullah), "By Allah! The smell of the donkey of Allah's Apostle is better than your smell." On that a man from 'Abdullah's tribe got angry for 'Abdullah's sake, and the two men abused each other which caused the friends of the two men to get angry, and the two groups started fighting with sticks, shoes and hands. We were informed that the following Divine Verse was revealed (in this concern):-- "And if two groups of Believers fall to fighting then, make peace between them." (49.9)
https://muflihun.com/bukhari/49/856

>>17647439
Did you believe what you wrote?
>All being will actually testify in judgement
>rocks
>trees
>insects
>animals in general

>talking mountains
>talking food

>prophetic bees

Lol, i thought muslims were retarded but no THAT retarded.

Between you and me. Do you really believe in talking food and talking mountains?

Do you really THINK that Allah will send mountains and ants to the hell?

>>17647467
I think inanimate being talked in Muhammad's ﷺ presence. It wasn't a constant occurrence but it happened on a few occasions as has been narrated by multiple companions in corroborated chains.

Mountains don't sin, this is why A'isha, رضي الله عنها, said she often wished she were a tree because of the fear she had of judgement and knew a tree would have a much easier time than a human

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based

>>17647467
This tree was (probably) saved at least, Muhammad even consoled it.

>The Prophet (ﷺ) used to stand by a tree or a date-palm on Friday. Then an Ansari woman or man said. "O Allah's Messenger (ﷺ)! Shall we make a pulpit for you?" He replied, "If you wish." So they made a pulpit for him and when it was Friday, he proceeded towards the pulpit (for delivering the sermon). The datepalm cried like a child! The Prophet (ﷺ) descended (the pulpit) and embraced it while it continued moaning like a child being quietened. The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "It was crying for (missing) what it used to hear of religious knowledge given near to it."
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/61/93

>>17647501
Someone once spit a date pit at a tree and Muhammad ﷺ said don't do that as he considered it disrespectful

>>17647508
That may be why trees gave him secret intelligence about jinns.

>"I asked Masruq, 'Who informed the Prophet (ﷺ) about the Jinns at the night when they heard the Qur'an?' He said, 'Your father `Abdullah informed me that a tree informed the Prophet (ﷺ) about them.' "
https://sunnah.com/bukhari/63/84

>>17647484
>but it happened on a few occasions as has been narrated by multiple companions in corroborated chains.

So you trust more in authorities than in your own senses and science. Right?
Don't you feel a little bad for that?

>>17647525
Yes awareness of jinn is normal for creatures besides humans

>>17647538
The whole point of a miracle is something not explicable by natural philosophy or material data

>>17647543
Yeah I found this quite obvious too. Also animals can see angels and the devil, if your donkey brays you'd better be careful.

>The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "When you hear the crowing of cocks, ask for Allah's Blessings for (their crowing indicates that) they have seen an angel. And when you hear the braying of donkeys, seek Refuge with Allah from Satan for (their braying indicates) that they have seen a Satan."
https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3303

>>17647557
Dogs are especially sensitive to jinn

tfw you have to make yourself throw up because you drank while standing up.

>None of you should drink while standing; and if anyone forgets, he must vomit.
https://sunnah.com/muslim:2026

>>17647546
That's the point. You trust more in a book than in your judgement.

The "chain" you adore is a fabrication bro.

>>17647572
Because there are multiple narrations of Muhammad ﷺ drinking while standing and because when he discouraged it in a other cases he didn't use the term vomiting, this is understood across the board to mean loitering while drinking is strongly disliked, as in the water is worse inside than outside. Although the Sahaba did sometimes deliberately vomit (when the prohibition of alcohol was revealed for example), in context of all the other Hadiths on this particular issue it has been determined that it's and idiom here for makrooh

>>17647592
A single chain is classified as "strange" even if sound. It takes multiple chains often with distinct versions to be seen as normal sound

>>17647624
Maybe i explained it wrong. I'm saying that the chains are themselves a fabrication.
For example what is the chain And the historical sources of this one
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>>17647615
Muhammad may have been authorized by Allah to drink while standing, but that does not apply to fellow muslims who have to follow Muhammad's orders:

>Anas reported Allah's Apostle (ﷺ) disapproved the drinking of water while standing.

These ahadith are sahih. I hope you sit down before drinking anon. If you don't Allah and Muhammad will be angered. You don't want to anger Allah, do you?

>>17647645
You think Bukhari made them up? And every other person who reported them did?

>>17647659
I do sit before drinking, or at least squat. The only ruling on drinking while standing
I have ever seen is makrooh though, not haram, meaning the Prophet ﷺ disliked it but never punished it or applied it when impractical

tfw your cow speaks and reminds you what is its job

>Once Allah's Messenger (ﷺ); offered the morning prayer and then faced the people and said, "While a man was driving a cow, he suddenly rode over it and beat it. The cow said, "We have not been created for this, but we have been created for sloughing." On that the people said astonishingly, "Glorified be Allah! A cow speaks!" The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "I believe this, and Abu Bakr and `Umar too, believe it, although neither of them was present there. While a person was amongst his sheep, a wolf attacked and took one of the sheep. The man chased the wolf till he saved it from the wolf, where upon the wolf said, 'You have saved it from me; but who will guard it on the day of the wild beasts when there will be no shepherd to guard them except me (because of riots and afflictions)? ' " The people said surprisingly, "Glorified be Allah! A wolf speaks!" The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "But I believe this, and Abu Bakr and `Umar too, believe this, although neither of them was present there."
https://sunnah.com/bukhari:3471

>>17647681
>You think Bukhari made them up? And every other person who reported them did?
That seems more likely than speaking cows and trees and stones and burgers.

>>17647701
I think the only credible positions would be either that people in the chain made it up, or they're telling the truth (the latter be much plausible if one accepts the Qur'an). Bukhari fabricating Hadiths is absolutely not a possible position for one to seriously hold when everyone who studied him agreess he was the most rigorous of any compiler and in fact made his mission in life to weed out false Hadiths by intense travel and study of narrators

>>17647718
Either that or someone bullshitted fairy tales at one point of the chain and muslims now believe them because Bukhari and Muslim stamped them sahih.
Either way that's deeply, deeply, retarded.

>>17647734
>one point of the chain
In almost every case here we are talking about incidents with multiple chains. Where there is only one it is called "strange" because generally with important sayings or events multiple witnesses forwarded it. Some scholars do not consider strange Hadiths to hold weight in jurisprudence

>>17647744
These chains are not independent from each other, and anyway it doesn't prove anything. I could gather countless schizos who can swear they've seen reptilians eat babies while abducted in flying saucers and that's still more credible than speaking cows.
Face it, you believe in all earnest late antiquity fairy tales and fables.

>>17647681
>You think Bukhari made them up? And every other person who reported them did?
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>>17647744

Sheeet, you really don't know how "tradition" works, right?
You can make up an inmemorial tradition in only 3 generations.
Ask any historian or anthropologist

>>17647525
Is it the extreme desert climate that makes people like this?

>>17647016
you present no counterargument and no counterproof we therefore declare victory.

>>17647243
>but I hate kikes like you even more
Patrician choice.