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Anonymous Mon Feb 22 22:17:24 2021 No.17621842 [Reply] [Original]

Should I bother reading much Zen Buddhism? Most of the ideas I read in books are completely meaningless to me, many I don't think are true. Do the ideas become seemingly true after lots of practice? Has reading lots of zen Buddhism changed your life for better or worse?

࿇ C Œ M G E N V S ࿇ !KNDYqWRDiE Mon Feb 22 22:27:26 2021 No.17621891
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LOOK AT THAT BUFFOON STARING AT A WALL...

ALL TYPES OF BUDDHISM ARE MERE NIHILISM DISSIMULATED WITH VAIN PSEUDOMYSTICISM.

THE SON OF GOD WAS BORN HUMAN IN THE FLESH, AND THERE ARE STILL NESCIENT CLOWNS PLAYING WITH QUARTZ, WORSHIPING DEMONS, AND STARING AT WALLS.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 22 22:28:44 2021 No.17621898 >>17621891 Have lots of pics of little girls stored, hey?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 22 22:28:59 2021 No.17621903 >>17621891 Kindof a gay move for him to be the son of God. That's like listening to my boss's son

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 22 22:29:12 2021 No.17621904 File: 190 KB, 1050x700, DTSuzuki.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] If you meet the Gaijin, kill him.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 22 22:30:06 2021 No.17621914 >>17621891 >THE SON OF GOD WAS BORN HUMAN IN THE FLESH >PLAYING WITH QUARTZ >WORSHIPING DEMONS >STARING AT WALLS All equally retarded

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 22 22:31:24 2021 No.17621921 Stop falling for the Buddhism meme. Become a Vaishnava. Read Ramanuja

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 22 22:38:07 2021 No.17621951 >>17621914 It isn't just staring at a wall lol

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 22 22:40:27 2021 No.17621963 File: 42 KB, 624x624, 1603892344404.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17621891 This is so cringe it hurts

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 22 22:41:03 2021 No.17621967 File: 173 KB, 1000x1414, 1602675047453.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17621842 No Zen Buddhism is cringe. Study Theravada (specifically the Thai forest tradition)

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 22 22:42:25 2021 No.17621974 >>17621914 >All equally retarded Literally every thing you do is retarded. Pick one, you're going to be retarded either way.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 22 22:43:02 2021 No.17621977 >>17621967 retvrn to sheep...

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 22 22:44:17 2021 No.17621987 File: 215 KB, 720x719, 1600648101977.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17621977 >tfw you will never herd sheep across the green hills of Ireland

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 22 22:44:17 2021 No.17621988 >>17621951 are you denying enlightenment can't be attained through meditation on objects?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 22 22:46:23 2021 No.17621999 >>17621987 >tfw you will never fall into a bog and slowly die from a sheep pileup because they all crowd onto you

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 22 22:47:17 2021 No.17622002 File: 38 KB, 500x500, 1601133861412.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17621999 This you?

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 22 22:47:48 2021 No.17622009 >>17621967 I did a lot of vipassana meditation, but honestly can't really tell the difference between in and shikantaza

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 22 22:48:49 2021 No.17622017 >>17622002 That is an accurate characterization of people who idolize Irish shepherds.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 22 22:49:59 2021 No.17622023 >>17621988 The Soto monks facing a wall do not have the vision of that wall as the focus of their meditation. I'm sure there are objects to focus on such as chants and images in the mind and so on which can help people practice

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 22 22:51:01 2021 No.17622034 >>17621999 Bogpilled

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 22 22:51:47 2021 No.17622039 >>17622017 Saint Patrick was a Sheppard

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 22 22:53:12 2021 No.17622049 File: 244 KB, 555x555, a2024a40542aee4d727d81f96d709930063f7aa7ec37c22366f729d805331ab5.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17621987 it hurts so bad

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 22 23:02:05 2021 No.17622103 >>17622039 He was also a mick

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 22 23:19:38 2021 No.17622221 >>17621891 None of zen teachings are important, they only point to something that could be considered true by a specific stru tired human subject

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 22 23:20:40 2021 No.17622229 >>17622221 Specific socially constructed human subject*

The Man That Authored His Own (...) Mon Feb 22 23:23:53 2021 No.17622266
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>>17621891
The One True Believer approach? Here? Then again the audience always needs something willing to express more energy than the audience is willing to expend.

I just don't understand why Christians don't understand that universal application approach stifles diversity and complexity. Unless they really do only want to be a singular impulse.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 22 23:27:16 2021 No.17622295 >>17621842 Eastern thought is just too subtle for the western mind, give it up you will never get it without proper training.

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 22 23:34:59 2021 No.17622343 >>17622295 Doubt is very useful to learn Dharma, which may or may not even exist

>>	Anonymous Mon Feb 22 23:39:00 2021 No.17622368 File: 383 KB, 420x610, 1613404976600.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>17621891 >>17621921 >>17621967 >>17622295

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 23 00:06:52 2021 No.17622503 >>17622103 No he wasn't

The Man That Authored His Own (...) Tue Feb 23 00:07:11 2021 No.17622505
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>>17622368
Discarded upon presentation to my immediate recognition of it not being something that serves my current or future interests.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 23 00:18:19 2021 No.17622562 >>17622103 He was British actually

Anonymous Tue Feb 23 01:34:36 2021 No.17622918
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>>17621891
CHRISTIANITY, WHEN FOLLOWED TO THE LAST WORD, RESULTS IN THE CULTIVATION OF THD HUMAN FAILURE.

FOR WHAT WAS JESUS OTHER THAN A GURU CARPENTER WHO DIED PITIFULLY UNDER THE VIRILE HANDS OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE.

BELIEF IS A POOR SUBSITUTE FOR KNOWLEDGE.

FAITH IS A POOR SUBSITUTE FOR GNOSIS.

Anonymous Tue Feb 23 01:40:03 2021 No.17622943

>>17622918
>FOR WHAT WAS JESUS OTHER THAN A GURU CARPENTER WHO DIED PITIFULLY UNDER THE VIRILE HANDS OF THE ROMAN EMPIRE.
people have been worshipping his name for two thousand years come on dude
if there are valid criticisms of christianity, this is not one of them

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 23 01:40:45 2021 No.17622947 >>17621842 That's because they are meaningless. Also if you think lots of practice will help you then you're long way off getting the point.

Anonymous Tue Feb 23 01:58:19 2021 No.17623022

>>17622943
YOU FOOL! INSTEAD OF WORSHIPPING A FRAIL HIPPY, THEY COULD'VE BASKED IN THE GLORY OF THE PROPHET MUHAMMED(PBUH), WHO HAD ALL THE SUCCESS AND NONE OF THE MEGALOMANIA. JESUS IS ONLY WORSHIPPED BECAUSE THE PRIESTS PREY ON THE YOUNG AND MALLEABLE; OTHERWISE WHAT INTEREST COULD ANYONE HAVE IN THE WEAK HORSE OPPOSED TO THE STRONG.

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 23 01:59:07 2021 No.17623026 >>17623022 two thousand years is a long time

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 23 02:07:28 2021 No.17623049 >>17621842 >Should I bother reading much Zen Buddhism? No. Either do the actual practice or skip it completely >>17621891 kys already moron

>>	The Man That Authored His Own (...) Tue Feb 23 02:50:25 2021 No.17623182 >>17622918 How long should an audience to something be subscribed to an idea to allow for healthy distribution and dissemination?

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 23 03:12:10 2021 No.17623228 Bodhidharma's works are immediately comprehensible

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 23 04:59:39 2021 No.17623552 >>17623228 What good guy he was

>>	Anonymous Tue Feb 23 05:09:54 2021 No.17623589 >>17621967 Why?

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